When you go to sleep in safehouse...

[TheHumanIsland]

When you go to sleep in the safehouse, since it's optional now and you can just quicksave instead, they should have a reason for the sleeping now.

 

You should be able to dream. When you sleep in the bed, a procedurally generated world of a few different themes should happen, with all kinds of different scenarios, nightmares and good dreams, reality and fiction, earthly and other planets, etc. Wake up when you die or when enough minutes pass that the save would have passed xD

[GTAVGG]

There's already a thread about sleeping

http://gtaforums.com/topic/868595-vote-sleep-in-gtavi/

[TheHumanIsland]

Oh, I see. This isn't about sleeping. It is about dreaming in procedural generated dreams.

[slimeball supreme]

To be honest, if it's not optional, I could see that getting very annoying after a while.

[TheHumanIsland]

Well yeah, so you would just quicksave instead of safehouse visit. And if you safehouse visit and decide against it, just kill off the character or have a button for "alarm" that wakes you up.

 

If it was procedural and had a few big themes - sex dreams, weird dreams, weird filters on screen, impossible things like jumping high in a dream that takes place in the actual map, stuff like that - many many modifiers that don't fit in the "real world" of GTA, but do fit in the "dream world" of your protagonist - think of if michael had dreams -

 

saving family not only in the house, but in werid places, dreams where he is a knight saving the kids from a dungeon lol stuff like that.

 

It would definitely add a lot to do at end-game as long as they were always random - youtube vids "look at my crazy dream I got in GTA V" so players have unique things happen that they can share, dreams that end before you want them to, dreams that don't end fast enough, dreams you hate, saved by the "alarm" function, it could be really cool.

 

Like imagine if the "weed protest" grassroots missions for mike and trev were a dream instead of a real-world mission, but procedural, so they could be as they were in V, but they could also be on the moon, under the sea, etc

Edited October 18, 2016 by TheHumanIsland

[GTK0HLK]

Sounds interesting, and maybe something to dip into once in awhile.

if it was implemented to fit gta.

 

though if this plans to spread into it being fitting of its own thread, itd need more.(before it gets shipped, to the relevant threads)

 

Edit: makes me think, of situations, when the protagonist does things that are generally not considered normal or legal,

People say, how do you sleep at night, either say don't or strange dreams.., or say you dreamt of the big hard drive recording all that you have done.(would add more to this whole thought process but have to rinse somethings)

.., Story wise, at the very least it would affect a protagonist(s) as they start becoming morally corrupt, either by their will, or not.

if we get to see their dreams. makes me wonder of michael, when a save i left at, had him flipping out, with a gun in his hand after a assumingly negative dream.

Edited October 19, 2016 by GTKING1st

[TheHumanIsland]

Yeah, like, the story could have a few pre-defined dreams, ones that everyone sees, and that are tied into things the protag is experiencing in the game or worried about, premonitions, and so on - but freemode dreaming could utilize a randomization and be this new thing every time.

Edited October 19, 2016 by TheHumanIsland

[GTK0HLK]

i guess something that could be done for implementation, if protagonist is in bed(like in ONLINE), you have the option to either pass time, or pass time + Dream.

or Dream, or pass time..,though for story specific Dreams, would they be mandatory or ignorable. imo at least passable. which would leave us with moments like i mentioned before when michael awoke with gun in hand, and no one home. or for those who went through the dream, see what he went through.

 

Though for a GTA game, so far it seems more fitting if it was in V, since michael had a psychiatrist.(and honestly peaks my curiosity if they could have expanded on that.){edit: as well as the whole player evaluation at the end.., i always got rich or poor, which i guess is paper standard, i didn't do much rampaging during sp, or after, if i did i refreshed an old save. end of edit}

i doubt a protagonist with an archetype that originated like franklins did, would have much, they just got woah-ed by the over the topness by all that had transpired, and conscientiously dealt with everything, and the guilt, or not know what to do(with the michael/trevor situation, and lamars issues)

While trevor, could had been a segway(or segue) into some background into his past with michael.

 

ok, that is enough story for this post.

 

in anyone's opinion, would this work well with only SP, or would it work with whatever mode R* goes along with.(like Online)?

Edited October 19, 2016 by GTKING1st

[evd]

Wait for my online DLC CONCEPT I've been thinking about for last 3 weeks, You 'll like it

[The Dedito Gae]

It would be interesting if we fought Freddy Krueger or Leo Dicaprio trying to steal our thoughts.

[Payne Killer]

It would be interesting if we fought Freddy Krueger or Leo Dicaprio trying to steal our thoughts.

Or the protags house is being robbed and you have to go investigate. Would make a cool random event.

[Maibatsu545]

Hey you know what? That would actually be pretty cool.

 

Could be a neat way to fit in some more outlandish gameplay like the drug trips in V.

[GTK0HLK]

In a fun sense.., i could imagine Michael trying to run away from zombie trevors, and Brad.(or Michael going after trevor when he dies, "Back from the dead MF" sounds better to me with another word but owell)

its practically one of the only ways things that would never fit in gta be slightly given an excuse.

Edited October 21, 2016 by GTKING1st

[CreepShow]

Oh, I see. This isn't about sleeping. It is about dreaming in procedural generated dreams.

Dream would become boring, its a nice idea but its like skinning in RDR, once you do it the first 50 times it just becomes boring, even if its a random generated world each time.

[evd]

they should be created as "missions" with progressing plot, each time going deeper into mind, like P.K.Dick's novels.

 

this CD should also be an official ost to the dreams (mainly because the songs are created after heavy lucid dreaming)

 

 

Edited October 21, 2016 by evd

[Pedinhuh]

I fail to see how this would fit GTA unless the protagonist is a stoner..

[evd]

Humane Labs second raid.

[TheHumanIsland]

I fail to see how this would fit GTA unless the protagonist is a stoner..

 

Michael woke up from nightmares all the time when you switch to him. It just fills in what he was dreaming and gives more insight. His tripping mission, the grassroots missions him and trevor have... The tripping mission is one cool ass example of how one of a million different possible dreams could be if some were procedurally generated.

 

And Grassroots is an example of a dumb f*cking stupid ass mission that would have been better and more acceptable if it was just a dream and not some stupid ass "smoked tainted weed from fake weed supporter who actually doesn't like weed and tripped face and killed a bunch of peds without any cops coming because the aliens and clowns ARE actually just peds/innocents being seen as something else" - would have been WAY BETTER as possible dreams u could have.

 

I fail to see how you think it would have to be a stoner to fit... That's pretty much just daft to even say.

 

SINCE sleeping is completely optional now, it should have some other reason to do it other than just advancing time... You should be able to enter a dream world and, this is how it would be awesome:

 

1: Procedurally generated small areas and objectives that progress the dreams.

 

2: Dreams which take place in the normal open world, with weird time cycle modifiers and weird gameplay like moon gravity or super punch or bulletproof or chased by zombies, sex with celebrities, more superpowers - whatever does NOT fit in GTA, but that fits in dreams everyone or many people have all the time.

 

What if each MFT had a unique way of flying in their dreams in V if V had this? Mike would be a high jumper, franklin would be a superman flier, Trevor would swim through the air. All real ways different people experience flight in their dreams.

 

Modes of gameplay that otherwise do NOT fit GTA, in a dream sequence, would be the freshest thing ever added to mix up the series to date...

 

And again, imagine all the cool unique one-in-a-million dreams that could be had with the "non-game-world" "procedural generated" levels people could share.

 

sh*t, man, I would think you'd need to be stoner not to think this was a good idea...

 

It's my idea, tho, of course I will say that

Edited October 23, 2016 by TheHumanIsland

[evd]

Mine too. ^^

We need this in Online and VI.

 

Just think about dream with a huge shark...

Or something like evil within.

Or a tornado.

 

This idea is tits on fire.

Edited October 24, 2016 by evd

[Snesgamer83]

Make it a feature that is off by default but can be turned on in the options menu, and I'm there.

 

Oh, and sleeping does serve a purpose: it allows you to skip ahead in time for the few events where that is useful.

[TheHumanIsland]

Nah snesgamer, how about instead, when u lay down in bed you get an option to press Triangle for time pass, and X to dream. No need for toggle now. And YOU can join the dream, or skip it, any time now - no need to turn it back on when u get bored with free roam after the story etc.

 

And I covered that time pass stuff. Read the posts I made if you will? I think you will like it more. After reading the rest of the posts, what do you think bro [or sis, ur name could work for anyone, just like mine, which is awesome, I was born in 83 also!)?

Edited October 24, 2016 by TheHumanIsland

[evd]

"Dreams from Humane Labs".

 

 

*pill taking suicide animation* and sleeping could give you special dreams.

The pill should also have few other "qualities" depending on situation (actions like meditate, or being deeply offshore on bout) and mixing with BST(+18% speed of moving and throwing).

 

an aftereffect of human engineering.

__________________________

 

sounds good for Halloween 2017 DLC.

 

a small missionpack of 3 missions ending with a climax inside HL.

 

one man heist.

 

reward:

 

100k

one Humane Lab pill

one shuriken (a gift from someone from the DLC story).

 

_________________

Edited October 24, 2016 by evd

[TheHumanIsland]

Tooooo deep. nigga should sleep and then wake up - player should see the dreams or not.

 

You are a smart dude, but your peers are idiots and could not understand let alone handle what you suggested bro \

 

I liked it anyway <3 Cause I understood u <3

Edited October 24, 2016 by TheHumanIsland

[evd]

Thank mate, I appreciate it!

 

I want them (random generated dream sequences) to be ever present, but has hidden something inside.

 

They f*cking started this sh*t with the mural, I demand the truth!

 

[Snesgamer83]

Nah snesgamer, how about instead, when u lay down in bed you get an option to press Triangle for time pass, and X to dream. No need for toggle now. And YOU can join the dream, or skip it, any time now - no need to turn it back on when u get bored with free roam after the story etc.

 

And I covered that time pass stuff. Read the posts I made if you will? I think you will like it more. After reading the rest of the posts, what do you think bro [or sis, ur name could work for anyone, just like mine, which is awesome, I was born in 83 also!)?

My bad, I read your original post and replied to it, now that I looked you posted the time progression a few posts down.

 

Yeah, I'm a bro, lol, and I think it's a really cool concept that I would love to waste some time in, the only thing I could see is it backfiring with a lot of players finding it weird or something.

[evd]

For the first time it may have decent and fitting backstory.

 

three long missions, with a plot and good cinematics, and few cool eastereggs (fully functioning umbrella as a weapon). I would love to see more scripted missions like Single Player. Some of them were gems actually.

 

the last major DLC.

 

 

 

Every death should end the dream in my opinion. it will make your character wake up in the middle of the night and change the next dream settings.

 

 

Should you be able to sleep up to 3 dreams in a row and then have a 36 minutes cooldown?

Edited October 24, 2016 by evd

[Eugene H. Krabs]

I don't know. I think that dreams may feel out of place, especially for a game like GTA. Just keep it short and simple by having the protagonist sleeping on a bed and then waking up 6 game hours later.

[evd]

Out of place?

 

 

Like cunning stunts?

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

It would actually be cool.

 

Imagine if Franklin dreams about Chips or Shirts Ironing him. Or about him being a loner.

Trevor could have a rampage with clowns calling him a motherf*cker or Michael losing his family to aliens.

 

They can even tie in the story. If Franklin choses A or B he could dream about T or M . Or Michael dreaming about Trevor f*cking his sh*t up or the FIB aresting him. Hell they can even make him dream about North Yankton where he dies instead.

[GTK0HLK]

Nice to see mostly support for an Idea.(though i guess for some that do not like it, an "option" to have an option "show up or not", cause it will most likely annoy people who think a this dream idea be a waste of time or resources.)

 

yeah, and agree..,^, (i at times make things of similar color to the background)

i said before michael, while during the story could have had a dream about brad(or in the end where trevor dies) have a dream that has undead brad/trevor go after him, though thinking about it now, instead of before, seems unlikely due to the end, seems to leave a clear mind aspect after awhile, and im sure michael didn't give a .., once the tanker exploded.

Though like i said before.., there is a slight tinge of it seems to fit well with V, but what of GTAN for me.

 

right now, on this post, it mostly comes out for me as a good tool for story(optional, or just for fun), and filling plot holes which most likely are not there, though are felt.

 

Though, i feel like Mrs.Phillips was a plot hole, that is quite the thorn.(i sometimes think, did trevor imagine her up.)

 

what else could dreams be used for, besides RNG Fun, or Story.?