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Spider-Vice

Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 1)

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MostWantedMVP

 

 

If there is stealth gameplay they better bloody bring back crouching. Some great possibilities for it in online PvP as well, hiding in bushes and what not.

I hope there's actual stealth kills too, in the first one John just did regular knife slashes instead of kills from behind

 

the first suppressor was created in 1902 so maybe we can unlock a prototype of it or something after completing a long side quest.

Stealth kills are already confirmed in trailer #2 Arthur stabs a guy from the back at night in the swamp/forest area.

 

 

It might be a new mechanic.

 

I'm looking forward to the "No witness, no crime" returning.

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SuperKitsune

I don't understand people disapproving a spring release because,"4 months of marketing isn't enough".When a sh*t ton of games have come out with barely any marketing done whatsoever.Evil Within 2,a game I really wanted was only shown at E3 (June) and then was never mentioned until late September/early October (it was released on Oct 13)

Hell even god of war,other than E3 had no marketing done and even now,other than a trailer,nothing is shown.

 

Not to mention unlike EA and Ubisoft who need to impress even the hardcore fans to make their game(s) look attractive,Rockstar doesn't need to do that.They know people that were fan of Rdr ARE gonna get the game without waiting for reviews or anything.Freaking hell other Rockstar fans will buy the game just because of the reputation that Rockstar and their games hold.(Like me.I became a RDR fan after the second one was announced.)

 

TL;DR Other games have had less marketing as well and rockstar doesn't even need to market all that much,they know people will buy their sh*t without second thought.

I concur, we're doing most of their marketing for them.

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MostWantedMVP

I am expecting with the game being built from the ground up, to have all new mechanics. I especially can't wait for the gunplay and see how that plays out.

 

I think it's going to be even more brutal than Red Dead Redemption.

 

That's what Red Dead is about at heart. A solid ecosystem that makes the transition between gunplay, getting on horses etc seemless.

 

I hope there is an option to dive whilst shooting like in Max Payne 3. That would be epic.

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thedarkman123

I am expecting with the game being built from the ground up, to have all new mechanics. I especially can't wait for the gunplay and see how that plays out.

 

I think it's going to be even more brutal than Red Dead Redemption.

 

That's what Red Dead is about at heart. A solid ecosystem that makes the transition between gunplay, getting on horses etc seemless.

 

I hope there is an option to dive whilst shooting like in Max Payne 3. That would be epic.

Should definitely be a treat, I want some awesome bar fights to erupt for no reason and be freaking epic.

Guns blazing, people screaming, bottles blow up and pedestrians screaming for mercy, the story and missions are good but what makes a game awesome are the things not related to the narrative, but the world.

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YouAreWrong

I want better melee and mele weapons.

Maybe some sticks,chairs,throw tables,throw people at chairs,tables,walls,over the stands,in other people etc.

 

Throw some bottle glasses,rocks,sand etc.

(Rockstar always half-asses their melee combat in games.I hope RDR2 does something good with it.)

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MostWantedMVP

 

I am expecting with the game being built from the ground up, to have all new mechanics. I especially can't wait for the gunplay and see how that plays out.

 

I think it's going to be even more brutal than Red Dead Redemption.

 

That's what Red Dead is about at heart. A solid ecosystem that makes the transition between gunplay, getting on horses etc seemless.

 

I hope there is an option to dive whilst shooting like in Max Payne 3. That would be epic.

Should definitely be a treat, I want some awesome bar fights to erupt for no reason and be freaking epic.

Guns blazing, people screaming, bottles blow up and pedestrians screaming for mercy, the story and missions are good but what makes a game awesome are the things not related to the narrative, but the world.

 

 

That's what I loved in Red Dead Redemption. Pulling out your gun in a saloon, you had the choice to kill or leave them be.

 

You backed off then they'd say somthing smug like "Yeah I didn't think so"...then you'd just kill them anyway because why not.

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thedarkman123

Lost in a poker game? kill every one of them and take their moneh...

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MostWantedMVP

I want better melee and mele weapons.

Maybe some sticks,chairs,throw tables,throw people at chairs,tables,walls,over the stands,in other people etc.

 

Throw some bottle glasses,rocks,sand etc.

(Rockstar always half-asses their melee combat in games.I hope RDR2 does something good with it.)

 

I loved the throwing knives in Redemption I thought they were epic. It was so satisfying to headshot someone off a galloping horse and see the body just fly off.

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Holland_Hicks

I really hope all of the lackluster parts of Rockstar's previous games don't rear their ugly head. I want Red Dead Redemption 2 to have visceral, non-clunky melee combat, responsive controls and character movement, gunplay that feels good without the use auto-aim, no filler missions, etc.

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YouAreWrong

I know this will feel like asking for too much,but I would love for a UFC like fighting system.You attack(you should have like strong and light attack)with fists,and you trip/kick in balls with legs(I don't think legs were used that much in Westerns,would feel out of place of course),and you also block.

 

Simple,but has to be done correctly,every attack must feel heavy,especially since Arthus is a big dood.

 

I think RAGE allows them to do it correctly

(If they keep the dull animations from V I will be angry(.


(I'm just a sucker for good ol'melee brawls,que in Sleeping dogs).

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Starboy

Just a fun fact pointed out by CynicalDevil when I was having a conversation with him.

The silence on RDR2 has literally been worse than the GTA V cancer days!

RDR2 Announced October 2016:

Till now 5 Screens ; 2 Trailers.

Time- 1 Year and 4 months.

During GTA V we had 2 trailers...tons and tons of screenshot and loads of information from the Gameinformer article.

Dont forget the Asked & Answered series and moreover fans could communicate directly with Rockstar in the Social Club comments section.

Its very surprising and quite worrying tbh for them to have been so silent.

So much so that hopefully the game doesnt turn out to be a dissapointment:(

This is exactly what makes me nervous. Even though it GTA V got delayed, we didn't go through that much of a news drought. Let's hope the next GI cover is Red and the lack of news comes to a end.

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J.Dillinger Blackheart

Why is the treasure hunt not added to this list of "bad marketing" that was part of marketing as well.

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thedarkman123

I want to feel bad for the people i hurt or kill(and for the way i killed them), i don't want them to be npc's without a soul.

 

How is this possible?

I want your opinions here guys.

 

*First and foremost, the animation (Rage engine is a good start but needs a overhaul, for instance when i hit someone in GTA and he flies in the air like he was struck by superman, it's underwhelming... and a bit funny) .

 

*Gore should be as realistic as possible, i want to look at what i did and say to myself "How could i?".

 

*Families, i kill one's husband, the wife should mourn him, his son should come after me (If the wife take arms could be epic!)

 

*The npc's should have routines but not only that, they should have a personality:

A guy in a store, he comes in morning, goes to drink in a bar at night etc, we saw that before in games like skyrim, deus ex and assassins creed origins (The routines stuff) so nothing new there, here is the big sell:

we meet in the store and he speaks to me while i buy stuff from him, he can sometimes give me small quests related only to him, at night we play poker, he thanks me for what i did for him earlier, a fight erupts , he dies somehow (doesn't matter if i'm the one who killed him),The store closed, the man is gone, his quests will vanish etc.

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YouAreWrong

I think what would really make NPC's feel alive,is to add voice to them.

 

Let's say you start beating the sh*t out of someone for no reason,and you keep doing it while he screams:

''Ugghhh,why are you doing this?I don't know you!Stop I'm hurt,why are you doing this?"

 

This kinda of thing,will make gamers ask why they are behaving so violently in a game anad sh*t.SHould be fun in my opinion.

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Zello

I really hope all of the lackluster parts of Rockstar's previous games don't rear their ugly head. I want Red Dead Redemption 2 to have visceral, non-clunky melee combat, responsive controls and character movement, gunplay that feels good without the use auto-aim, no filler missions, etc.

Don't forget the same vehicle that took you forever to find spawning in traffic and there's suddenly a bunch of them.

 

If they do that with horses and stagecoaches lol...

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Starboy

Let's say game is coming in May, then there's more than enough time. R* aren't going to go full Ubisoft and spoil the whole game through marketing with 20 minute gameplay videos so we've got more than enough time for a few other trailers and screenshots. Let's just hope these next two weeks are positive. The last thing I wanna hear from R* is delay lol. That would be devastating after waiting so long.

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YouAreWrong

You basically said the most obvious things on everyone's mind.

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Starboy

You basically said the most obvious things on everyone's mind.

Yeah I know but there isn't much else to say lol.

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YouAreWrong

Yeah,take a hint R*,there's nothing to digest here.

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Hunter S. Compton

I will say its fairly confusing to hear people talk about how it needs all this marketing when it has already won several awards for being the most anticipated game of the year. People know about, people are excited for it, people who arent us. Can we please stop talking about release dates now it is pointless

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YouAreWrong

You know,I'd even sugest closing this thread.

 

It is basically a hospital for mad-men here with PTSD.

 

Re-open it when there are some news?

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RedDagger

If you think thread is pointless

 

make no posty in thread

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YouAreWrong

I did not want to sound like that lol.

 

I think a lot of people just come here expecting news and always get dissapointed,then start talking and arguing about delays and stuff.

 

At this point,this forum is but a bad habbit that they can't drop(I'm over the drought,thanks to Monster Hunt,which I'm about to start very soon)

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Haven't posted anything in a while but I'm still checking the forums everyday hoping for something new. I've noticed a lot more activity on here recently so here's hoping for us all waiting that this drought will soon end!

As others have posted Western related artwork before, here's some recent work that I found on ArtStation by Alexey Trishkin:

 

alexey-trishkin-hanter-02.jpg?1515953380

 

alexey-trishkin-cowboy-03-c.jpg?15165257

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Haven't posted anything in a while but I'm still checking the forums everyday hoping for something new. I've noticed a lot more activity on here recently so here's hoping for us all waiting that this drought will soon end!

 

This is great

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Haven't posted anything in a while but I'm still checking the forums everyday hoping for something new. I've noticed a lot more activity on here recently so here's hoping for us all waiting that this drought will soon end!

 

 

As others have posted Western related artwork before, here's some recent work that I found on ArtStation by Alexey Trishkin:

 

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staph coping me !!!!

just kidding way better than the one in my bio :)

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Jabalous

This week, the hype train will go on full speed. Hopefully it doesn't crash :lol:

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Zello

It's gonna derail

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OutlawGummyWilly

Tuesday and Thursday especially I'm fully expecting to see 9 billion guests viewing this topic

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thedarkman123

For god sake, 2 weeks to conference call, no news, no leaks, rockstar even break january release date announcement pattern. Rockstar wtf is wrong with you?

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