Red Dead Redemption 2: Discussion & Speculation (Part 1)

[Big_Smiley]

Stop arguing everyone, we're only 10 months away from the expected release window!!!

A.... a lot can happen in 10 months though Edited May 29, 2017 by GTA_The_Series

[Dee-account-with-1kbans]

we're only 10 months away from the expected release window!!!

Uhhh..is that a short time frame for you?

[Jabalous]

I don't care about the delay at this point, but the wait is bad when we still don't know what this game is all about. It will be easier if we have details about the story, the main cast and the basic gameplay mechanics. These will enrich the discussion here and we will know what's in store for us. Info like what's Dutch and his fellow outlaws involvement will be like are welcomed. The first art of the 7 men keeps you curious about what it is all about. It was intentional from Rockstar side. Hopefully we won't go into the depths of August without info at hand already

[Dick Justice]

 

we're only 10 months away from the expected release window!!!

Uhhh..is that a short time frame for you?

 

Yes. The 7 months since the trailer have flown by. That amount of time again and it's already 2018! I've been doing this whole living thing for a long time. 10 months of life is nothing.

[Dee-account-with-1kbans]

 

 

we're only 10 months away from the expected release window!!!

Uhhh..is that a short time frame for you?

 

Yes. The 7 months since the trailer have flown by. That amount of time again and it's already 2018! I've been doing this whole living thing for a long time. 10 months of life is nothing.

 

It really didnt.Hence why thi subforum is almost completely dead now. What R* did was f*cking sh*tty

[Dick Justice]

Time is relative. I can't believe we're about to be in June. To me, this year is flying by at an almost unsettling pace.

[DisCrafted]

 

With or without the Benz, Rockstar will manage. Not sure why everyone thinks Leslie's departure suddenly makes a 900 strong company useless.

The departure of Leslie lead to the departure of many other key employees that have been there since the beginning. The departure of Leslie lead to a 4 year Rockstar game drought. The departure of Leslie brought us this nausea-inducing screenshot.

 

 

 

"KEY employees"... There are thousands of employees who work at R*, a couple leaving doesn't mean sh*t. Oh, and i guess you gotta thank him for creating a thing called "GTA Online"..... Also, I'll give you two examples of actual key people: Aaron Garbut and Imran Sarwar.

Edited May 29, 2017 by DisCrafted

[D T]

Ash_735 put this list together.

 

 

Craig Conner [Music Director]

Will Morton [Dialogue Supervisor & Senior Audio Designer]

Matthew Smith [Audio Director]

Jonathan McCavish [Audio Designer]

Adam Fowler [Technical Director]

Ian McQue [Lead Concept Artists/Assistant Art Director]

Stephen Bliss [Lead Concept Artists/Artwork Director]

Colin Entwistle [Lead Camera Programmer/Programmer]

Mondo Ghulam [Animation Director/Lead Cutscene Animator]

Colin Walder [Audio Programmer]

Christian Kjeldsen [senior Sound Designer]

 

And there's been a few more since then ranging from those who later joined in 2005/6 who also left in 2015/6.

These guys were lead developers. It's not a coincidence these guys left soon after Leslie, and it's not a coincidence Rockstar hasn't released anything since then. Luckily they may have contributed to RDR2 a fair bit before leaving, but surely future Rockstar titles will never be the same.

[BLOOD]

Imran sawar became "key" employee after the release of GTA V and GTA Online.

 

Edit: So anyone can be key after a successful project.

Edited May 29, 2017 by BLOOD

[BUT THE BENZ]

Ash_735 put this list together.

 

Craig Conner [Music Director]

Will Morton [Dialogue Supervisor & Senior Audio Designer]

Matthew Smith [Audio Director]

Jonathan McCavish [Audio Designer]

Adam Fowler [Technical Director]

Ian McQue [Lead Concept Artists/Assistant Art Director]

Stephen Bliss [Lead Concept Artists/Artwork Director]

Colin Entwistle [Lead Camera Programmer/Programmer]

Mondo Ghulam [Animation Director/Lead Cutscene Animator]

Colin Walder [Audio Programmer]

Christian Kjeldsen [senior Sound Designer]

 

And there's been a few more since then ranging from those who later joined in 2005/6 who also left in 2015/6.

These guys were lead developers. It's not a coincidence these guys left soon after Leslie, and it's not a coincidence Rockstar hasn't released anything since then. Luckily they may have contributed to RDR2 a fair bit before leaving, but surely future Rockstar titles will never be the same.

 

amen! it's funny when people talk about GTA 6 and sh*t, I think LEL people,we might not even see another GTA ever....because R*'s golden days are most certainly over. they had their peak. now that the main player is gone, and with him all the other key figures who made the damn games, instead of writing up/copying a story that is "okay", and shouting at people...OR, begging people to clean up the mess they made...there will be very limited innovation if at all. who knows, maybe RDR2 will be their last game....hahaha...if it turns out to be actually awesome I could live with it being the last game out of that stable. I was hoping for Max Payne 4 someday, but I mean come on the ones who made MP3 happen are gone or whatever aswell. R* is done man. I just hope RDR2 will be okay. all it needs to be is okay.

Edited May 29, 2017 by Noclue_42

[DisCrafted]

FFS. There's no doubt that these employees were talented but a company doesn't include just one, two or even ELEVEN people in this case. 12 i guess if you count Benz himself. Honestly we could go on and on about this topic but it's pointless.

[BLOOD]

Rockstar's main player is The Benz out of 1,200 employees? . You do realise with today's digital world they do not need to release titles every four or so years right? Plus talents can be poached? Just stop already

 

Edit: Even if RDR2 fails critically and commercially it will not affect them just like last week before the earnings conference call. GTA is the Industry's biggest money maker. Everyone have lost notable staffs but can release any hit title at any time. The Benz aint God

Edited May 29, 2017 by BLOOD

[BUT THE BENZ]

GTA is the Industry's biggest money maker.

WAS!

[DisCrafted]

 

GTA is the Industry's biggest money maker.

WAS!

 

Haha yeah right, might want to look at the weekly charts buddy.

Edited May 29, 2017 by DisCrafted

[Canady117]

 

 

GTA is the Industry's biggest money maker.

WAS!

 

Haha yeah right, might want to look at the weekly charts buddy.

 

Didn't GTA V hit* something like 80 million this past year? Thought I remembered seeing that somewhere. For a game that is almost four years old... Incredible.

Edited May 29, 2017 by Canady117

[DisCrafted]

 

 

 

GTA is the Industry's biggest money maker.

WAS!

 

Haha yeah right, might want to look at the weekly charts buddy.

 

Didn't GTA V ship something like 80 million in the past year? Thought I remembered seeing that somewhere. For a game that is almost four years old... Incredible.

 

Yeah, something like that i think. A lot, basically.

[BLOOD]

 

 

GTA is the Industry's biggest money maker.

WAS!

 

Haha yeah right, might want to look at the weekly charts buddy.

Jesus did not know we are going to encounter a troll on this thread .

 

Edit: GTA V has sold 80 million copies that many popular game franchises total lifetime sales combined

[Canady117]

 

 

 

 

GTA is the Industry's biggest money maker.

WAS!

 

Haha yeah right, might want to look at the weekly charts buddy.

 

Didn't GTA V ship something like 80 million in the past year? Thought I remembered seeing that somewhere. For a game that is almost four years old... Incredible.

 

Yeah, something like that i think. A lot, basically.

 

Yup just looked it up (and edited my previous post). It has sold over 75 million copies as of February 2017.

[BLOOD]

80 million as of last week earnings conference call. At this point they could keep reporting V sales just to make their stock price go over the roof. And Online is the most played mmo game out there.

 

Edit: It will be surreal to see a clip of a time traveler going back to the time The Benz said he had 45 years idea for GTA and telling him he will be fired way before that. Tbh i think VI should not happen until V have left the top chart worldwide so like 2023-2024 or worse 2030:http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-05-29-overwatch-jumps-16-places-to-no-2-in-uk-retail-charts

Edited May 29, 2017 by BLOOD

[bilala21]

This thread is about RDR2 and not the Benz people, just a reminder before we go widely off topic

[Stellasin]

Well we can wait for that new game by Benz called "Everywhere" or something. There is also an MMO RPG called "Identity" coming by Asylum Entertainment which has a bigger map than any game before. It's way more diverse than GTA Online.

[Merle Travis]

For the love of all things holy, I just hope they add snow, snowfall and mountains you can explore. I just loved Tall Trees, was my favourite part but it was too small imo.

 

Just please let there be snow in RDR2 and its GOTY for me.

[kBlaise]

I'm going to be very sad if Mexico is not in RDR2.

[bilala21]

I'm going to be very sad if Mexico is not in RDR2.

Doubt it, Rockstar said that RDR2 is set in Americas "Heartland". It'll be good if they had a few missions in mexico

[Frantz Fuchs]

Anything noteworthy happen in the last week? I've lost interest for now

[Jason]

Not really. It should pick back up a bit around E3 but we'll probably get nothing there, so later in the Summer is when this place will hopefully start picking back up again.

[LegacyKillaHD]

If anything we'll get some type of reveal this summer and then silence till late 2017, marketing then should ramp up for its Spring release

[TheOriginalGunslinger]

So, after the delay news (still wasn't shocked when it dropped I mean, most of us knew it was inevitable) but amongst that comes other good games (more coming soon and later this year) to play to hold the wait. Speaking of other games has anyone checked out PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds? I'm freaking addicted.

 

Can't believe the insane success of PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds at the moment. Historically speaking I don't know if there has ever been a steam game that's risen to success so quickly as PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds has. And, it's showing no signs of slowing down. It's been a pretty decent experience so far (I mean it has it's share of lag here and there) but overall it's getting tweaked and updated quite often. It's at it's early access right now and has sold a little over 2 million copies and has a steady player base with 180,000+ players daily which is crazy. A little indie game that was formed from a mod and it's this successful is quite a surprise.

 

Not even mad about the Red Dead Redemption 2 delay. There are tons of games to be played this year.

Edited May 29, 2017 by TheOriginalGunslinger

[Jason]

So, after the delay news (still wasn't shocked when it dropped I mean, most of us knew it was inevitable) but amongst that comes other good games (more coming soon and later this year) to play to hold the wait. Speaking of other games has anyone checked out PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds? I'm freaking addicted.

 

Can't believe the insane success of PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds at the moment. Historically speaking I don't know if there has ever been a steam game that's risen to success so quickly as PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds has. And, it's showing no signs of slowing down. It's been a pretty decent experience so far (I mean it has it's share of lag here and there) but overall it's getting tweaked and updated quite often. It's at it's early access right now and has sold a little over 2 million copies and has a steady player base with 180,000+ players daily which is crazy. A little indie game that was formed from a mod and it's this successful is quite a surprise.

 

Not even mad about the Red Dead Redemption 2 delay. There are tons of games to be played this year.

 

It's been massively successful, but it actually wasn't much of a surprise seeing as PlayerUnknown has been one of the key people in the battle royal/KoTH scene for a good while. I might be a little wrong on the details but from what I know he was the original developer of the DayZ/Arma 3 battle royal mod (DayZ is really where the craze started), then helped DayBreak games with their KoTH game H1Z1 and at some point split and found a dev team to do his own game where he had creative control. H1Z1 is where it all took off though, late last year with the help of Twitch streams it rocketed in popularity - check out this chart - so when PU Battlegrounds launched earlier this year it had an absolutely massive audience already there and waiting to try it out, with the fact it's not a full price title meaning people are happier to pick it up and try it out (plus Steam refund policy!).

 

It's definitely been a bit of phenomenon though, between H1Z1 and PU Battlegrounds they've basically made an entirely new genre of shooter mainstream and I'm fully expecting a major developer/publisher to be announcing their own version - with a console release - at E3 next month. It's an absolute gold mine waiting to happen.

Edited May 29, 2017 by Jason

[Dee-account-with-1kbans]

i swear if this game ends up not living up to the hype after almost a year of silence....