GTA: Online Breakdown - Bikers

[C64fanatic]

I shut down and reopened four of my five fully upgraded labs, the only thing that disappeared was the stock, when I reopened them all the upgrades were still there.

 

I can't speak for what happens when a lab gets raided yet but the above is an absolute fact.

What platform are you on? Did you install the latest patch?

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

Finally. I've tested it 3 times and posted my results, but people still don't accept it. I can't wait until u post your findings so we can put this argument to rest. Or maybe you'll join my argument trying to convince these guys that they do lose it all.

 

(1) get raided and fail to defend a business - lose upgrades.

 

(2) shut down business manually - lose upgrades.

 

(3) relocate any type of business - lose upgrades.

 

 

Yeah, you need to send in a ticket.

[whywontyoulisten]

I find that you can ride your bike inside tequila la for the resupply mission. Hmm.

Interesting. I wonder if you can prop the doors open with bikes and bounce grenades into the club?

[Kyle4GTA]

Quick Report: Just sold 200k half full (upgraded) Cocaine factory the one in Elysian Island did it solo i got the mission where you have to drop off cocaine on a boat all you have to do is drive the boat to the drop offs which are really close it only took me 10 minutes to do it with 2 boats i kinda messsed around a little bit probably could of had it done sooner. I've learned tho that if your on a boat or bike and you die or get off it you have like 20 seconds to get back on or the product will explode or disappear lol. So far my 3 favorite sale missions are delivering Bikes to a destination, Using Buzzards to drop off product, or using a Boat to drop off product all 3 of those take very little time to do. My least favorite has to be either the Vans or the Seaplane one.

[EkaSwede]

Maybe the location of the business also determines what sales mission you get? THe only sale mission I've gotten for my Cocaine Lockup in Vespucci Beach has been Buzzards and Baggers so far (3 Buzzard sales and 2 Bagger sales)

Edited October 9, 2016 by EkaSwede

[Kyle4GTA]

Maybe the location of the business also determines what sales mission you get? THe only sale mission I've gotten for my Cocaine Lockup in Vespucci Beach has been Buzzards and Baggers so far (3 Buzzard sales and 2 Bagger sales)

 

I think its just random, but not sure it could be location based. Im assuming its random because when you sale CEO Warehouse Crates you get a random mission also which im pretty sure isn't location based but yea time will tell and whats the Bagger sale mission? dont think i've had that one yet.

[EkaSwede]

Deliver up to 4 Baggers to for different locations (each location is inside a truck). The Bagger just feels so slow to me.

[SaboteurSniper]

 

I shut down and reopened four of my five fully upgraded labs, the only thing that disappeared was the stock, when I reopened them all the upgrades were still there.

 

I can't speak for what happens when a lab gets raided yet but the above is an absolute fact.

What platform are you on? Did you install the latest patch?

 

PS4. What patch are we talking about here, thought any patches download automatically? Haven't been prompted to download one.

Edited October 9, 2016 by SaboteurSniper

[Bobfakkel]

People who r selling from LS to Blain, do they get deliverys in paletobay or what has been your furthest? Also is there allot of miles between dropoff points?

 

Cause my sell mission from paleto to blain was actually more time consuming then delivering in LS cause of the distance between dropoffs.

[Bobfakkel]

So I've found out coke uses a lot more supplies than forgeries did. I had 5 bars of supplies - it only made 2 bars of product.

So ive payed attention to my friends cokelab after this and he used 4 supply bars to make 2 bars of stock in Sandy Shores near that lake left of Trevors house.(just saying cause idk if anymore cokelabs are out there)

[DevilDaRebel]

Which is better to have? a cocaine lab in LS and deliver to paleto or blaine, or a cocaine lab in paleto and deliver to LS?

[fryday]

Ive bought the morning wood coke house.

 

Will the production proceed, when the the PS4 is turned off?

[Kyle4GTA]

So my experience on Ps4 as far as upgraded factories go i had a Upgraded Methlab and choosed to shut it down to test if you lose your upgrade you do Not lose your upgrade. Then i moved my Upgraded Methlab to Terminal and i did lose my upgrades (ouch 1 mil down the drain) i mainly did it because i wanted all my factories close by each other which they are now.

[Bobfakkel]

WARNING

 

When you buy supplies you must remain president of your MC untill the supplies arrive. When you quit and continue the session as CEO or something else your supplies wont arrive untill you are a MC president again.

[SaboteurSniper]

So my experience on Ps4 as far as upgraded factories go i had a Upgraded Methlab and choosed to shut it down to test if you lose your upgrade you do Not lose your upgrade. Then i moved my Upgraded Methlab to Terminal and i did lose my upgrades (ouch 1 mil down the drain) i mainly did it because i wanted all my factories close by each other which they are now.

My whole business is located tightly as possible in the south east corner of the map, works well for me:

 

Document Forgery - Elysian Island

Weed Farm - Elysian Island

Cocaine Lockup -Elysian Island

Counterfeit Cash Factory - Cypress Flats

Methamphetamine Lab - El Burro Heights

 

My La Mesa Clubhouse is just across the way from my Meth Lab.

Edited October 9, 2016 by SaboteurSniper

[zecanelao]

I have made a neat little discovery.

 

If you buy supplies and have a shipment of supplies pending for delivery and quit the MC and start doing CEO stuff or whatever, the shipment will not reach the warehouse untill you log in to your MC again. This means that if you buy supplies for 15.000, which is the least amount I can buy in my Meth Lab, I can fill up my supply storage 100% for that amount. I just quit before I get the supplies, and return when my warehouse has used its supplies/most of its supplies. I will then get the supplies I bought for 15.000, and since bought supplies always maxes out the storage, I can fill up my warehouse for only that amount.

 

English isn't my native language, and it was a bit difficult to explain. I hope you get it .

 

Normally I don't buy supplies, but sometimes I use that little "trick" though.

This works. Tested on PC.

[C64fanatic]

WARNING

When you buy supplies you must remain president of your MC untill the supplies arrive. When you quit and continue the session as CEO or something else your supplies wont arrive untill you are a MC president again.

I wrote about that yesterday, and you can actually use it to your advantage ---> http://gtaforums.com/topic/870086-biker-warehouse-knowledge-base/?p=1069129780 Edited October 9, 2016 by C64fanatic

[ceerup]

 

 

 

 

Another important fact to note is....

If your business gets raided by the cops and your whole MC dies defending it, the cops will shut down the business. You will need to start over and repurchase the upgrades you had.

If you choose to shut your business down temporarily for what ever reason, you will need to repurchase any upgrades you had all over again.

If you decide to relocate a certain type of business l, you will need to repurchase any upgrades you had at the previous location.

I understand taking everything but the upgrades too? Can anyone else confirm this? Thats crazy! How many cops are we talking?

this didnt happen to me. unconfirmed. we need more reports. my upgrades stayed

Can other people confirm this? Do you loose all your upgrades if you shut down your business? I don't believe it.I've done it 3 times. Upgrades get reset if...

 

(1) you manually go to your business and shut it down.

 

(2) your business gets raided and you fail to defend it. Cops confiscate everything.

 

(2) you relocate your business to a different building.

you do not lose your upgrades. only product and supplies during raids. upgrades always stay

[ceerup]

Which is better to have? a cocaine lab in LS and deliver to paleto or blaine, or a cocaine lab in paleto and deliver to LS?

i have the one by the docks in LS. my clubhouse is in paleto. methlab in sandy shores and weed farm in paleto. i like to have properties scattered. i dont care about driving i enjoy it.

[Schumy7]

Resupplying when almost empty costs 75K max.

[Schafter S500]

I found that, on Forgery business, you can NOT sell the full product in Los Santos alone if you own the Forgery at Harmoney (near Sandy Shores).

 

The timer to sell them is 30mins, and it gives you 3 Trashmasters, each with 5 packages, which you need to distribute across LS. It takes, from Forgery to the first 5 packages, around 9 minutes. To go back to Forgery, by bike, it takes around 3,5-4 minutes. It means, it takes around 13 minutes to complete each sale and back to pickup another Truck. To do it 2 times, considering at first time you are already at Forgery, you'll need around 22 minutes. Plus, let's say, at minimum, 3 minutes to go back, you'll have only 5 minutes left to take the last Truck to LS, and sell the last packages, which isn't enough time.

 

ANYWAY, if you sell in LS, alone, "2 bars" of the production -packages- (which for me, was worth 45k), you can do it within 30 minutes.

 

I'm trying to discover at what point of production, it start to give you 3 Trucks to do the job instead of 2.

I did the same. On my 3rd Trashmaster heading to LS, I ran out of time and failed. I delivered 10 of 15 trash bags and got paid 72K.the undelivered went back into stock.

[C64fanatic]

 

I found that, on Forgery business, you can NOT sell the full product in Los Santos alone if you own the Forgery at Harmoney (near Sandy Shores).

 

The timer to sell them is 30mins, and it gives you 3 Trashmasters, each with 5 packages, which you need to distribute across LS. It takes, from Forgery to the first 5 packages, around 9 minutes. To go back to Forgery, by bike, it takes around 3,5-4 minutes. It means, it takes around 13 minutes to complete each sale and back to pickup another Truck. To do it 2 times, considering at first time you are already at Forgery, you'll need around 22 minutes. Plus, let's say, at minimum, 3 minutes to go back, you'll have only 5 minutes left to take the last Truck to LS, and sell the last packages, which isn't enough time.

 

ANYWAY, if you sell in LS, alone, "2 bars" of the production -packages- (which for me, was worth 45k), you can do it within 30 minutes.

 

I'm trying to discover at what point of production, it start to give you 3 Trucks to do the job instead of 2.

I did the same. On my 3rd Trashmaster heading to LS, I ran out of time and failed. I delivered 10 of 15 trash bags and got paid 72K.the undelivered went back into stock.Returning in a Pegasus Hydra, Swift or Buzzard is faster than driving all the way back on a bike. Edited October 9, 2016 by C64fanatic

[DevilDaRebel]

 

Which is better to have? a cocaine lab in LS and deliver to paleto or blaine, or a cocaine lab in paleto and deliver to LS?

i have the one by the docks in LS. my clubhouse is in paleto. methlab in sandy shores and weed farm in paleto. i like to have properties scattered. i dont care about driving i enjoy it.

 

 

No no no, I mean what location is better in terms of safety while selling your product. Like, if you have a coke warehouse in LS, and then sell to paleto wouldn't that be safer because there's usually no one up there?

[spukin]

Just wondering if I close my buisness (and loose all the product) and re-open it will i get the same delivery mission that refills whole factory? That could be good way to go after every sell.

 

Ohh and does resuplying for 75k refills whole bar?

Edited October 9, 2016 by spukin

[zecanelao]

Just wondering if I close my buisness (and loose all the product) and re-open it will i get the same delivery mission that refills whole factory? That could be good way to go after every sell.

 

Ohh and does resuplying for 75k refills whole bar?

That's a good idea. Here in my coke business with no upgrades it costs 75k to refill the whole supply bar.

[spukin]

 

I have made a neat little discovery.

 

If you buy supplies and have a shipment of supplies pending for delivery and quit the MC and start doing CEO stuff or whatever, the shipment will not reach the warehouse untill you log in to your MC again. This means that if you buy supplies for 15.000, which is the least amount I can buy in my Meth Lab, I can fill up my supply storage 100% for that amount. I just quit before I get the supplies, and return when my warehouse has used its supplies/most of its supplies. I will then get the supplies I bought for 15.000, and since bought supplies always maxes out the storage, I can fill up my warehouse for only that amount.

 

English isn't my native language, and it was a bit difficult to explain. I hope you get it .

 

Normally I don't buy supplies, but sometimes I use that little "trick" though.

This works. Tested on PC.

 

 

Wow this is huge! So u could just close youre busness and reopen it then steal stuff that refills the whole bar and after that use your method to refill it again for 15k! Am i right??? 2 full bars would cost then 15k and that would be a really good profit.

[C64fanatic]

 

 

I have made a neat little discovery.

If you buy supplies and have a shipment of supplies pending for delivery and quit the MC and start doing CEO stuff or whatever, the shipment will not reach the warehouse untill you log in to your MC again. This means that if you buy supplies for 15.000, which is the least amount I can buy in my Meth Lab, I can fill up my supply storage 100% for that amount. I just quit before I get the supplies, and return when my warehouse has used its supplies/most of its supplies. I will then get the supplies I bought for 15.000, and since bought supplies always maxes out the storage, I can fill up my warehouse for only that amount.

English isn't my native language, and it was a bit difficult to explain. I hope you get it .

Normally I don't buy supplies, but sometimes I use that little "trick" though.

 

This works. Tested on PC.

 

Wow this is huge! So u could just close youre busness and reopen it then steal stuff that refills the whole bar and after that use your method to refill it again for 15k! Am i right??? 2 full bars would cost then 15k and that would be a really good profit.

It's exactly as I described .

 

I think most people like to steal the supplies, and so do I, but this is a way to buy the supplies for few GTA$ if you would rather spend the time doing other things.

Edited October 9, 2016 by C64fanatic

[fSpiral]

I just finished a full stock local coke run. Even though i didnt deliver the last package I still got $280,000. Im a solo player but i dont like the stress of doing this alone.

 

If anyone wants to team up and help one another w/ resupply and deliveries in a free aim pacifist session send me a message. My psn id is in my profile

[EkaSwede]

Had another coke sale. Got the "Boats to 5 checkpoints + speed bonus". Dinghies were located by the lighthouse. I was lucky to have my yacht at the last delivery spot (north of the northernmost convenience store) so getting back to the lighthouse was easy. I'm bad at driving botes, though. Kept bouncing off the waves and losing a little bit of the speed bonus.

 

Edit: Still waiting for my counterfeit cash place to fill up while un upgraded to later calculate the value increase per upgrade. Takes time

Edited October 9, 2016 by EkaSwede

[brahmabull]

I have made a neat little discovery.

 

If you buy supplies and have a shipment of supplies pending for delivery and quit the MC and start doing CEO stuff or whatever, the shipment will not reach the warehouse untill you log in to your MC again. This means that if you buy supplies for 15.000, which is the least amount I can buy in my Meth Lab, I can fill up my supply storage 100% for that amount. I just quit before I get the supplies, and return when my warehouse has used its supplies/most of its supplies. I will then get the supplies I bought for 15.000, and since bought supplies always maxes out the storage, I can fill up my warehouse for only that amount.

 

English isn't my native language, and it was a bit difficult to explain. I hope you get it .

 

Normally I don't buy supplies, but sometimes I use that little "trick" though.

Do you know how long it will take for the supplies to arrive? It would be super usefull if i would be able to do this at both my businesses before starting up ceo.

Had another coke sale. Got the "Boats to 5 checkpoints + speed bonus". Dinghies were located by the lighthouse. I was lucky to have my yacht at the last delivery spot (north of the northernmost convenience store) so getting back to the lighthouse was easy. I'm bad at driving botes, though. Kept bouncing off the waves and losing a little bit of the speed bonus.

 

Edit: Still waiting for my counterfeit cash place to fill up while un upgraded to later calculate the value increase per upgrade. Takes time

Do more than one of the upgrades increase value? I know that a fully upgraded warehouse sells for 40% more than a completely un upgraded one.

Edited October 9, 2016 by brahmabull