GTA: Online Breakdown - Bikers

[brahmabull]

Yes but when you say "before" does that mean that at some point it went back to just using 2 full supplies?

[Non Funkable Token]

5 bars of supplies give you 2 bars of coke by default.

2 bars = 1 bar of coke.

1 bar = 0,5 bars of coke.

 

These are the normal stats. It was bugged some time ago, giving you less coke than that with the aforementioned amounts of supplies. R* fixed it, but I strongly think it's bugged again. After Doomsday Heist dropped, I've been doing more resupply missions than normal just to get 1,5 bars of coke (I sell at that mark because it gives you only 1 vehicle to deliver, more coke than that means more vehicles to deliver).

[brahmabull]

Oh ok. I never noticed that it was lower than that. When the Biker DLC came out the coke and meth used the same amount of supplies as the counterfeit does now, which is 2.5 bars of product for 5 bars of supplies

[Mr Spanky]

Is anyone noticing that supplies give you less product than before? (again)

Nope

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/874280-glitch-infinite-supplies-for-your-mc-factories/

[brahmabull]

Have any of you experienced that when buying supplies it gives you a price but when you click on it and you get the accept screen the price has gone up? I tied backing out put the prise was still the same as before but when clicking it the price was higher on the accept screen.

[CaliMeatWagon]

Have any of you experienced that when buying supplies it gives you a price but when you click on it and you get the accept screen the price has gone up? I tied backing out put the prise was still the same as before but when clicking it the price was higher on the accept screen.

 

Nope, but to be honest I shut down all my MC businesses less than a week after we got bunkers.

[brahmabull]

 

Have any of you experienced that when buying supplies it gives you a price but when you click on it and you get the accept screen the price has gone up? I tied backing out put the prise was still the same as before but when clicking it the price was higher on the accept screen.

 

Nope, but to be honest I shut down all my MC businesses less than a week after we got bunkers.

 

Yeah i did that too bu then every thing got so darn expensivei had to start some up again. The biker businesses got me up to over 40 million and now i'm broke and have to save up for everything.

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

Have any of you experienced that when buying supplies it gives you a price but when you click on it and you get the accept screen the price has gone up? I tied backing out put the prise was still the same as before but when clicking it the price was higher on the accept screen.

 

Nope, but to be honest I shut down all my MC businesses less than a week after we got bunkers.

 

Yeah i did that too bu then every thing got so darn expensivei had to start some up again. The biker businesses got me up to over 40 million and now i'm broke and have to save up for everything.

 

 

I did the math and figured for the time spent vs profit I was better off doing other things.

[brahmabull]

 

 

 

Have any of you experienced that when buying supplies it gives you a price but when you click on it and you get the accept screen the price has gone up? I tied backing out put the prise was still the same as before but when clicking it the price was higher on the accept screen.

 

Nope, but to be honest I shut down all my MC businesses less than a week after we got bunkers.

 

Yeah i did that too bu then every thing got so darn expensivei had to start some up again. The biker businesses got me up to over 40 million and now i'm broke and have to save up for everything.

 

 

I did the math and figured for the time spent vs profit I was better off doing other things.

 

Well if you buy the supplies for the coke business the only time you spend on it is the delivery which at most is 30 minutes and in that time you will make 232500. That's pretty decent. Especially when that is the worst case scenario. Some delivery missions take less than 10 minutes

Edited December 20, 2017 by brahmabull

[Mr Spanky]

If you do the infinite supplies glitch, you don't have to 'buy' your supplies

 

I currently have coke and meth running, earning plenty of cash for zero cash outlay

[EkaSwede]

If you do the infinite supplies glitch, you don't have to 'buy' your supplies

 

I currently have coke and meth running, earning plenty of cash for zero cash outlay

You mean "had an accident and the supplies won't go down for some reason"

[brahmabull]

 

If you do the infinite supplies glitch, you don't have to 'buy' your supplies

 

I currently have coke and meth running, earning plenty of cash for zero cash outlay

You mean "had an accident and the supplies won't go down for some reason"

 

That's actually how it was for me with my weed. I just started it up a few days ago and it doesn't use supplies. I'm not gonna feel bad about it.

[GTASA-Pilot]

Production stops during supply runs. I've been thinking about this lately and I realized that this is important to take into consideration when running a biker business. For the coke business for example, you have to resupply 2-3 times (12.5 bars of supplies for 5 bars of product). Each time to resupply from zero to 5 bars takes about 20 minutes if you're pretty quick. So let's assume that you spend 60 minutes on supply runs for each full product. 60 minutes of stopped production equals a loss one bar of product (84k). So for every 5 bars of product you steal supplies for, you lose one bar of product due to stopped production during supply runs.

 

So, from the information above, it's pretty safe to say that buying supplies is a better choice than stealing. The profit loss of buying supplies can each time be compensated by doing other work, like selling a top range car in I/E for 80k or doing 2 Sightseer and 2 Headhunter VIP work. Selling a top range car is of course easier and more effective. However, I enjoy stealing supplies more than importing and exporting cars to be honest. Production also stops during sales, but that can't be prevented. I hate that production stops during supply runs, doesn't make any sense.

[El Payaso]

If you do the infinite supplies glitch, you don't have to 'buy' your supplies

 

I currently have coke and meth running, earning plenty of cash for zero cash outlay

How do you do the glitch?

[brahmabull]

Production stops during supply runs. I've been thinking about this lately and I realized that this is important to take into consideration when running a biker business. For the coke business for example, you have to resupply 2-3 times (12.5 bars of supplies for 5 bars of product). Each time to resupply from zero to 5 bars takes about 20 minutes if you're pretty quick. So let's assume that you spend 60 minutes on supply runs for each full product. 60 minutes of stopped production equals a loss one bar of product (84k). So for every 5 bars of product you steal supplies for, you lose one bar of product due to stopped production during supply runs.

 

So, from the information above, it's pretty safe to say that buying supplies is a better choice than stealing. The profit loss of buying supplies can each time be compensated by doing other work, like selling a top range car in I/E for 80k or doing 2 Sightseer and 2 Headhunter VIP work. Selling a top range car is of course easier and more effective. However, I enjoy stealing supplies more than importing and exporting cars to be honest. Production also stops during sales, but that can't be prevented. I hate that production stops during supply runs, doesn't make any sense.

Yes the whole "production stops on supply runs" is what makes me buy. A profit of 232k for just the time you take to deliver it is quite good. I think the average time i spend on them are 20 minutes. And since i still run my bunker close to my mc businesses i'm often nearby to buy supplies so i don't waste much time there.

[StormerBoy]

It took a year, but people finally start to realise that buying it better.

[Mr Spanky]

 

If you do the infinite supplies glitch, you don't have to 'buy' your supplies

 

I currently have coke and meth running, earning plenty of cash for zero cash outlay

How do you do the glitch?

Click the link in my post further up this page, it explains how to do it

[El Payaso]

 

 

If you do the infinite supplies glitch, you don't have to 'buy' your supplies

 

I currently have coke and meth running, earning plenty of cash for zero cash outlay

How do you do the glitch?

Click the link in my post further up this page, it explains how to do it

Okay. Thank you. I read the thread and there are posts that say it has been patched.

[GTASA-Pilot]

It took a year, but people finally start to realise that buying it better.

Yes, it's better but only if the cost of buying supplies is compensated to prevent profit loss.

[EkaSwede]

 

 

 

If you do the infinite supplies glitch, you don't have to 'buy' your supplies

 

I currently have coke and meth running, earning plenty of cash for zero cash outlay

How do you do the glitch?

Click the link in my post further up this page, it explains how to do it

Okay. Thank you. I read the thread and there are posts that say it has been patched.

 

It someteims unglitches itself. Not too hard to re-glitch er.... "Accident" it again.

[Mr Spanky]

 

 

 

 

If you do the infinite supplies glitch, you don't have to 'buy' your supplies

 

I currently have coke and meth running, earning plenty of cash for zero cash outlay

How do you do the glitch?

Click the link in my post further up this page, it explains how to do it

Okay. Thank you. I read the thread and there are posts that say it has been patched.

 

It someteims unglitches itself. Not too hard to re-glitch er.... "Accident" it again.

What ^^^^^^ said

 

Oh, and if you fail to defend your property, you will need to re do it

[GTASA-Pilot]

Production is stopped during supply runs as I mentioned in a previous post. As far as I remember, that did not use to happen before the 1.38 update that was released 14th March this year. This started happening when they fixed the resupply bug, so I'm wondering if this was done on purpose by Rockstar or is this a mistake?

[brahmabull]

Production is stopped during supply runs as I mentioned in a previous post. As far as I remember, that did not use to happen before the 1.38 update that was released 14th March this year. This started happening when they fixed the resupply bug, so I'm wondering if this was done on purpose by Rockstar or is this a mistake?

It is something that makes you earn less pr hour so i'm guessing Rockstar did it on purpose.

[GTASA-Pilot]

 

Production is stopped during supply runs as I mentioned in a previous post. As far as I remember, that did not use to happen before the 1.38 update that was released 14th March this year. This started happening when they fixed the resupply bug, so I'm wondering if this was done on purpose by Rockstar or is this a mistake?

It is something that makes you earn less pr hour so i'm guessing Rockstar did it on purpose.

 

I contacted R* support about this issue. Let's see what they're going to reply... probably asking me to provide a video like they always do. As always when dealing with C*, the expectations are low of course

[brahmabull]

 

 

Production is stopped during supply runs as I mentioned in a previous post. As far as I remember, that did not use to happen before the 1.38 update that was released 14th March this year. This started happening when they fixed the resupply bug, so I'm wondering if this was done on purpose by Rockstar or is this a mistake?

It is something that makes you earn less pr hour so i'm guessing Rockstar did it on purpose.

 

I contacted R* support about this issue. Let's see what they're going to reply... probably asking me to provide a video like they always do. As always when dealing with C*, the expectations are low of course

 

Yeah good luck with that. I have given up on them. Usually when i report a problem they answer with "thank you for the suggestion" which clearly shows that they never read it.

 

Last time i had a problem with my favorite bike not changing. The one that was the favorite was sold a year ago and i have used the oppressor since then and it didn't change it and they kept saying that i need to use another bike more than the current favorite. I wrote them 3 TIMES telling them that i had used another bike a year more than the favorite and it didn't change and they kept telling me to use another one more. I think they just act ignorant so people will give up.

[GTASA-Pilot]

 

 

 

Production is stopped during supply runs as I mentioned in a previous post. As far as I remember, that did not use to happen before the 1.38 update that was released 14th March this year. This started happening when they fixed the resupply bug, so I'm wondering if this was done on purpose by Rockstar or is this a mistake?

It is something that makes you earn less pr hour so i'm guessing Rockstar did it on purpose.

 

I contacted R* support about this issue. Let's see what they're going to reply... probably asking me to provide a video like they always do. As always when dealing with C*, the expectations are low of course

 

Yeah good luck with that. I have given up on them. Usually when i report a problem they answer with "thank you for the suggestion" which clearly shows that they never read it.

 

Last time i had a problem with my favorite bike not changing. The one that was the favorite was sold a year ago and i have used the oppressor since then and it didn't change it and they kept saying that i need to use another bike more than the current favorite. I wrote them 3 TIMES telling them that i had used another bike a year more than the favorite and it didn't change and they kept telling me to use another one more. I think they just act ignorant so people will give up.

 

Haha me too. I contacted them once about the favorite bike issue when I had problem with changing mine. Of course they couldn't help, they only suggested me to use the bike all the time. I did however manage to change my favorite bike recently by idling on my bike for 98 hours (!). Check out the favorite bike topic in this forum for more information if you're interested and trying to find solution to this.

Edited December 22, 2017 by GTASA-Pilot

[GTASA-Pilot]

Is there any good and fast plane that could be used effectively for mc business supply runs? It needs to be as fast as possible so that I can use it for fast traveling around the map. I was looking through the new aircrafts that was released since smuggler's run to see if there are any planes (not helicopters) that I could use for supply runs. I used to go with the Hydra before but now I'm not so excited about it anymore since they ruined the VTOL handling for it unfortunately. As far as I know, the Pyro is the fastest plane in the game if I'm correct, but it's not suited for supply runs because it can't land vertically, so using it for supply runs and business sales would not be practical. I saw the Tula aircraft too which has VTOL and can land on water but it's not fast enough for me, otherwise I would buy it immediately. Any suggestions?

[brahmabull]

 

 

 

 

Production is stopped during supply runs as I mentioned in a previous post. As far as I remember, that did not use to happen before the 1.38 update that was released 14th March this year. This started happening when they fixed the resupply bug, so I'm wondering if this was done on purpose by Rockstar or is this a mistake?

It is something that makes you earn less pr hour so i'm guessing Rockstar did it on purpose.

 

I contacted R* support about this issue. Let's see what they're going to reply... probably asking me to provide a video like they always do. As always when dealing with C*, the expectations are low of course

 

Yeah good luck with that. I have given up on them. Usually when i report a problem they answer with "thank you for the suggestion" which clearly shows that they never read it.

 

Last time i had a problem with my favorite bike not changing. The one that was the favorite was sold a year ago and i have used the oppressor since then and it didn't change it and they kept saying that i need to use another bike more than the current favorite. I wrote them 3 TIMES telling them that i had used another bike a year more than the favorite and it didn't change and they kept telling me to use another one more. I think they just act ignorant so people will give up.

 

Haha me too. I contacted them once about the favorite bike issue when I had problem with changing mine. Of course they couldn't help, they only suggested me to use the bike all the time. I did however manage to change my favorite bike recently by idling on my bike for 98 hours (!). Check out the favorite bike topic in this forum for more information if you're interested and trying to find solution to this.

 

I just don't see why that should be necessary. The one that was my favorit was one i may have used for a couple of hours. Since then i used another one for a year and it didn't change.

 

As for your next post it does sound like it's a helicopter you need even if you said not helicopters. The only planes that can be used like that are the Tula, Hydra, Avenger and in the non plane section we have the Deluxo which is what i use now. It is slow but it makes up for that in convenience when landing.

Edited December 23, 2017 by brahmabull

[shmok2]

Is there any good and fast plane that could be used effectively for mc business supply runs? It needs to be as fast as possible so that I can use it for fast traveling around the map. I was looking through the new aircrafts that was released since smuggler's run to see if there are any planes (not helicopters) that I could use for supply runs. I used to go with the Hydra before but now I'm not so excited about it anymore since they ruined the VTOL handling for it unfortunately. As far as I know, the Pyro is the fastest plane in the game if I'm correct, but it's not suited for supply runs because it can't land vertically, so using it for supply runs and business sales would not be practical. I saw the Tula aircraft too which has VTOL and can land on water but it's not fast enough for me, otherwise I would buy it immediately. Any suggestions?

 

Even after the (infuriating) Hydra nerf, it's still the most efficient means of transportation when you need to reach a far location, take the supplies and then fly back to the business. Around 8 seconds before you reach your destination fly low and switch to VTOL mode.

[GTASA-Pilot]

 

 

 

 

 

Production is stopped during supply runs as I mentioned in a previous post. As far as I remember, that did not use to happen before the 1.38 update that was released 14th March this year. This started happening when they fixed the resupply bug, so I'm wondering if this was done on purpose by Rockstar or is this a mistake?

It is something that makes you earn less pr hour so i'm guessing Rockstar did it on purpose.

 

I contacted R* support about this issue. Let's see what they're going to reply... probably asking me to provide a video like they always do. As always when dealing with C*, the expectations are low of course

 

Yeah good luck with that. I have given up on them. Usually when i report a problem they answer with "thank you for the suggestion" which clearly shows that they never read it.

 

Last time i had a problem with my favorite bike not changing. The one that was the favorite was sold a year ago and i have used the oppressor since then and it didn't change it and they kept saying that i need to use another bike more than the current favorite. I wrote them 3 TIMES telling them that i had used another bike a year more than the favorite and it didn't change and they kept telling me to use another one more. I think they just act ignorant so people will give up.

 

Haha me too. I contacted them once about the favorite bike issue when I had problem with changing mine. Of course they couldn't help, they only suggested me to use the bike all the time. I did however manage to change my favorite bike recently by idling on my bike for 98 hours (!). Check out the favorite bike topic in this forum for more information if you're interested and trying to find solution to this.

 

I just don't see why that should be necessary. The one that was my favorit was one i may have used for a couple of hours. Since then i used another one for a year and it didn't change.

 

As for your next post it does sound like it's a helicopter you need even if you said not helicopters. The only planes that can be used like that are the Tula, Hydra, Avenger and in the non plane section we have the Deluxo which is what i use now. It is slow but it makes up for that in convenience when landing.

 

Strange. You need to use the same bike more than your current favorite in a single block of time. If you switch bike often, the timer on the bike you're trying to make your favorite resets. So if you have used the bike more than your current one without using any other bike, it should change. It's time spent on the bike. Hope this helps!

 

Yes, helicopter is probably what fits me more but planes tends to be faster and more fun to fly in my opinion. Anyway, thanks for your suggestion!

 

Is there any good and fast plane that could be used effectively for mc business supply runs? It needs to be as fast as possible so that I can use it for fast traveling around the map. I was looking through the new aircrafts that was released since smuggler's run to see if there are any planes (not helicopters) that I could use for supply runs. I used to go with the Hydra before but now I'm not so excited about it anymore since they ruined the VTOL handling for it unfortunately. As far as I know, the Pyro is the fastest plane in the game if I'm correct, but it's not suited for supply runs because it can't land vertically, so using it for supply runs and business sales would not be practical. I saw the Tula aircraft too which has VTOL and can land on water but it's not fast enough for me, otherwise I would buy it immediately. Any suggestions?

 

Even after the (infuriating) Hydra nerf, it's still the most efficient means of transportation when you need to reach a far location, take the supplies and then fly back to the business. Around 8 seconds before you reach your destination fly low and switch to VTOL mode.

 

Yes, I agree. No other plane has beaten the Hydra in terms of efficiency during missions. Maybe I could buy a hangar and store my Hydra in there to make it my personal aircraft so I can spawn in instantly, or is that not possible?

 

Edit: Just found out it's possible. Great, I consider doing that soon. Too bad I can only change it's colour in the hangar, that's it.

Edited December 23, 2017 by GTASA-Pilot