GTA: Online Breakdown - Bikers

[LokDog]

I thought i was actually losing my marbles when id done like 4 coke supply runs and had one bar...

[StormerBoy]

Your mistakes are that you are buying the supplies. If you have 1 friend and steal it, you won't have to worry about how long it takes to fill them and it doesn't cost anything. Buying supplies is the easy way out. That's how you play the game. If you're looking for a handout then you're playing the wrong game.

You are very mistaken. I don't wish to repeat what I've said many times in this thread, simply put - time = money. So better to buy and spend time making cash back in other ways.

[FrozenInferno]

And it (stealing supplies) has even been nerfed. No point in stealing supplies if you only get half a bar on a run. So I can spend an entire session doing nothing but stealing supplies, and only get enough to be able to sell maybe 2 bars of product (if I'm lucky). And I'm still getting griefed by "disconnected due to unknown network error" about 50% of the time I try to sell.

 

Or I can continue to source 100% high end cars on I/E.

Until they somehow patch the "top range only" trick, which is bound to happen sometime soon.

[RedwoodLynx]

2 questions someone may be able to answer for me. No I didn't look past the first page, call me lazy or ignorant.

 

1. When my friends are helping sell my product, usually they make the basic amounts from 16k-40k or whatever the range is. But recently they have only been making small amounts from 2k-9k, on all of them consecutively. I am selling them all with full blue bar product, and it happens even with the harder selling vehicles. Anyone know why? It sucks cause I'm helping my best friend and brother in law make money as they are level 20's.

 

2. Is there any way to change your "favourite motorcycle"? The one that gives you bonuses? I assumed it was the one you ride the most, and if you ride another bike longer it changes. But I have been using my shotaro far longer than the defiler that is set to my favourite and it hasn't changed.

 

Thanks!

Unfortunately i don't think you're gonna like the answers:

 

1. Theres no rhyme or reason to associate payouts- people much more experienced than I have been trying to crack it for months without success.

 

2. I believe its whatever bike you've logged the most time with.

Edited February 10, 2017 by RedwoodLynx

[flexcreator]

 

You are very mistaken. I don't wish to repeat what I've said many times in this thread, simply put - time = money. So better to buy and spend time making cash back in other ways.

 

 

Well, It's more complicated.

 

I bought the supplies too before the I/E DLC. It was reasonable.

The "rule" is to invest more time into the most profitable method and do other things in cooldowns.

I/E is the most profitable process right now. So I don't want to waste time on businesses anymore.

 

Here is the problem: Buying supplies gives you more supplies than stealing them. And it gives you more product. The more product you have - the more time you invest in selling it. You also have less selling options - more chances to recieve an infamous Post Van.

 

So, selling all this product consumes all the time you are trying to save, at least in my experience.

[Mach1bud]

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

[RedwoodLynx]

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

Counterfit cash is my favorite. Great detail and so many stacks of moneyyyy

[Mach1bud]

 

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

Counterfit cash is my favorite. Great detail and so many stacks of moneyyyy

Cool. Can anyone tell me the glitchy status of any of the businesses aside from Coke? We all know Coke is screwed up right now. Are the others messed up as well?

[NiceOnes]

Sincere apologies if this has been discussed previously. I did a search and scanned this thread but couldn't find anything...

 

What dictates member pay on the MC sales missions?

 

In my experience the Coke & Meth fully upgraded 5 bar sales typically will net the helping MC members approx 30K but this doesn't seem to be a set rule.. I ran a Meth sale last night and was given the single truck single delivery point mission and my associates were only paid 5.5K.

 

I shut down my Forgery, Weed & Cash business because they never pay out the approx 30K. Also because they're not profitable enough for the Prez when purchasing supplies ** I know Cash could be argued as worth it **.

 

Anyways... Anyone know the rhyme or reason to these payments?

[StormerBoy]

 

 

 

You are very mistaken. I don't wish to repeat what I've said many times in this thread, simply put - time = money. So better to buy and spend time making cash back in other ways.

 

Well, It's more complicated.

 

I bought the supplies too before the I/E DLC. It was reasonable.

The "rule" is to invest more time into the most profitable method and do other things in cooldowns.

I/E is the most profitable process right now. So I don't want to waste time on businesses anymore.

 

Here is the problem: Buying supplies gives you more supplies than stealing them. And it gives you more product. The more product you have - the more time you invest in selling it. You also have less selling options - more chances to recieve an infamous Post Van.

 

So, selling all this product consumes all the time you are trying to save, at least in my experience.

You may be right based on selling on your own, but I never do that. I hire randoms. I don't get why most ppl don't do that?

Sincere apologies if this has been discussed previously. I did a search and scanned this thread but couldn't find anything...

 

What dictates member pay on the MC sales missions?

 

In my experience the Coke & Meth fully upgraded 5 bar sales typically will net the helping MC members approx 30K but this doesn't seem to be a set rule.. I ran a Meth sale last night and was given the single truck single delivery point mission and my associates were only paid 5.5K.

 

I shut down my Forgery, Weed & Cash business because they never pay out the approx 30K. Also because they're not profitable enough for the Prez when purchasing supplies ** I know Cash could be argued as worth it **.

 

Anyways... Anyone know the rhyme or reason to these payments?

The payouts for your team are random. No one can work it out.

[RedwoodLynx]

 

 

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

Counterfit cash is my favorite. Great detail and so many stacks of moneyyyy

Cool. Can anyone tell me the glitchy status of any of the businesses aside from Coke? We all know Coke is screwed up right now. Are the others messed up as well?

As I said, haven't had any bugs with meth or cash yet.

[Rafae]

Either buy your supplies or do supply runs with a friend. The worst thing you could do (especially after I/E) is supply runs by yourself.

 

The time used to get the supplies will be the same time used to empty up the supplies you previously got and they'll be used up FAST. You're basically racing to keep the supply bar above 0 or 1 if you're stealing supplies by yourself. You might as well buy them at that point and sell the business when full

 

Btw, even though (imo), the Coke lab has the coolest interior, the Meth and Weed businesses are mind blowing in terms of attention to detail and overall coolness factor. Can't say too much about counterfeit cash or document forgery businesses.

 

Btw, I was playing with a friend one time, stealing supplies for my meth lab until they were full and then I went to go help another friend in the same lobby sell their Weed business. As soon as the sale started, I disconnected and when I got back, my Meth lab (which had 85% of supplies previously and $154k worth of product) was empty on both bars. I was heartbroken and outraged.. the fact that they can just pull away hours of work from a simple disconnection issue is just.. yeah idk.

 

Haven't touched my MC businesses since, which is quite a shame considering I started doing them heavily after a period of time where I just did CEO WORK (what I'm only doing these days), and I had a friend helping me with supply runs too so it was a blast but then that happened.. so yeah I knew they were buggy but man, that is just some next level tomfoolery right there. Thank God I had sold my full Coke lab earlier in the same lobby, if the same thing had happened to both my businesses I would just break my disc in half.

[Forza Harrd]

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

Weed. Worth buying and fully upgrading JUST TO GO INSIDE AND LOOK AROUND. Fact.

[Mach1bud]

TBH I'm looking into businesses more from a roleplay/movie/snapmatic standpoint. I feel as if my character (old man mob boss type) would be more suited to the Document Forgery and Counterfiet Cash businesses.

 

Edit: Plus I already shut down my coke business due to the bugs it has right now.

Edited February 10, 2017 by Mach1bud

[HTF4]

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Edited July 28, 2019 by HTF4

[StormerBoy]

I know this has most likely been covered in the past 40 pages, and sincere apologies for that, but do you get full supply level if you spend the $75k? Stealing supplies can be pretty dead with a 5 mile journey... also, does it depend on the business? (I have counterfeit cash)

 

Edit: when I says depend, I mean is it advisable for some businesses to steal and others to buy

 

Thanks

Yes it will fully fill the supplies bar up, but a full bar of supplies doesn't always fill the stock level up, it varies from one business to the next.

 

As for stealing or buying, it is 50/50 what people will tell you is best to do. I would advise you to always buy.

[derek0514]

With all upgrades:

 

Coke $75 k supplies yields 1.5 bar $126 k far - 1 delivery vehicle. Sometimes may yield 2 bar $168 k far requires 2 delivery vehicles - did this ok w the forced alternate drop off one.

 

Meth $75 k supplies yields 2.0 bars $143 k far 2 delivery vehicles required. If u get bad draw - slow garbage truck not enough time do both. Last one got shorted bc ran out of time even using hydra fly back - so mad shut it down for now.

 

I buy all supplies - you could work out something w associates......to avoid grinding a bunch of steal missions - it makes me mad can't use my own vehicle in a lot of them for return. Usually would fly to site in buzzard or hydra, call up Karuna, take them out.

 

Near not worth doing. Piracy prevention from my yacht makes me $30 k almost every time even one when killed 5 times by Guy in jet - he did not board the ship. In that scenario jus dive in the water and swim down vs what I was doing. Sight seer yields $25 k.

 

Selling high end car auto import yields me 80 k (100 commission less 20 refurbish for customer). Using cargo bob eliminates or greatly reduces transport damage - a must tool for that biz.

Edited February 10, 2017 by derek0514

[RedwoodLynx]

With all upgrades:

 

Coke $75 k supplies yields 1.5 bar $126 k far - 1 delivery vehicle. Sometimes may yield 2 bar $168 k far requires 2 delivery vehicles - did this ok w the forced alternate drop off one.

 

Meth $75 k supplies yields 2.0 bars $143 k far 2 delivery vehicles required. If u get bad draw - slow garbage truck not enough time do both. Last one got shorted bc ran out of time even using hydra fly back - so mad shut it down for now.

 

Near not worth doing. Piracy prevention from my yacht makes me $30 k almost every time even one when killed 5 times by Guy in jet - he did not board the ship. In that scenario jus dive in the water and swim down. Sight seer yields $25 k.

 

Selling high end car auto import yields me 80 k (100 commission less 20 refurbish for customer). Using cargo bob eliminates or greatly reduces transport damage - a must tool for that biz.

If thats your outlook then ya, its not worth it. If you're like me and want to race and faff about in freeroam then collect 500k every five hours, this is the way to go.

[derek0514]

Both of my biker businesses cost me $2.5 to $3.0 m each in PB where I own 2 6 car garage houses, biker bar, and yacht based there. Other hardware Insurgent w tank, hydra, buzzard available. The Coke one really paid off, undecided if restart meth - I evaluate jobs in $ per minute of Gross Margin.

 

The auto import ware house was $1.5 m and that one works good for me. 2 of the auto source ones I prefer just sit out till a better one comes up. Sales missions smooth only one drop from cargo Bob and that bc I was fooling w d pad and jerky flight. Take it easy and make sure LZ visual, ease her in.

Edited February 10, 2017 by derek0514

[Rafae]

If you can get past the bugs (buying supplies only and selling when full), then Coke is by far the most worth it/profitable. It'll pay for itself (2.5-3m) in no time.

 

Made around ~$19m from the Coke biz alone since Bikers came out.

[derek0514]

Yes mine has more than paid for itself $15 m or more so far. Every time LJT calls its time milk that cash machine,

[FrozenInferno]

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

If you've ever seen the meth "super lab" on Breaking Bad, it's basically that in-game. The meth is even blue just like on the show. The meth lab is the only MC business I bought and it was mostly for that reason since I'm a huge fan of the show.

[Rafae]

 

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

If you've ever seen the meth "super lab" on Breaking Bad, it's basically that in-game. The meth is even blue just like on the show. The meth lab is the only MC business I bought and it was mostly for that reason since I'm a huge fan of the show.

 

 

This.. so much this lol

[C64fanatic]

If you can get past the bugs (buying supplies only and selling when full), then Coke is by far the most worth it/profitable. It'll pay for itself (2.5-3m) in no time.

 

Made around ~$19m from the Coke biz alone since Bikers came out.

$19m in profit and you bought all supplies?

[Rafae]

 

If you can get past the bugs (buying supplies only and selling when full), then Coke is by far the most worth it/profitable. It'll pay for itself (2.5-3m) in no time.

 

Made around ~$19m from the Coke biz alone since Bikers came out.

$19m in profit and you bought all supplies?

 

 

Not profit lol of course I bought supplies at times and the total cost of the business itself (around $2.5m). ~$19m is simply the amount I've made in pure sales.

[C64fanatic]

 

 

If you can get past the bugs (buying supplies only and selling when full), then Coke is by far the most worth it/profitable. It'll pay for itself (2.5-3m) in no time.

 

Made around ~$19m from the Coke biz alone since Bikers came out.

 

$19m in profit and you bought all supplies?

 

Not profit lol of course I bought supplies at times and the total cost of the business itself (around $2.5m). ~$19m is simply the amount I've made in pure sales.

Well you never know. Thanks.

[Rafae]

 

 

 

If you can get past the bugs (buying supplies only and selling when full), then Coke is by far the most worth it/profitable. It'll pay for itself (2.5-3m) in no time.

 

Made around ~$19m from the Coke biz alone since Bikers came out.

$19m in profit and you bought all supplies?

Not profit lol of course I bought supplies at times and the total cost of the business itself (around $2.5m). ~$19m is simply the amount I've made in pure sales.

Well you never know. Thanks.

 

 

No problem sir.

[aFinn]

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

 

I only have Coke and Meth so when visited friend's businesses made clips about them

 

Here's Weed:

 

Counterfeit Cash:

 

Document Forgery:

 

 

And here's Meth:

[Razgriz67]

You may be right based on selling on your own, but I never do that. I hire randoms. I don't get why most ppl don't do that

 

Most randoms dont wonna bother if you switch to ceo. that being said i did have one random that stuck around for a few hours even though me and my friends switched being president a good 20+ times

 

and is also how i meet a new friend.

 

 

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

If you've ever seen the meth "super lab" on Breaking Bad, it's basically that in-game. The meth is even blue just like on the show. The meth lab is the only MC business I bought and it was mostly for that reason since I'm a huge fan of the show.

 

 

I just wish that annoying fly would die

[StormerBoy]

 

You may be right based on selling on your own, but I never do that. I hire randoms. I don't get why most ppl don't do that

 

Most randoms dont wonna bother if you switch to ceo. that being said i did have one random that stuck around for a few hours even though me and my friends switched being president a good 20+ times

 

and is also how i meet a new friend.

 

 

Which businesses are the coolest looking? Everyone knows what the Coke lab looks like, and I was just noticing the badass detail in there, especially the guy packing the coke into the action figures.

 

I am kinda interested in the other businesses just to see what they look like.

If you've ever seen the meth "super lab" on Breaking Bad, it's basically that in-game. The meth is even blue just like on the show. The meth lab is the only MC business I bought and it was mostly for that reason since I'm a huge fan of the show.

 

 

I just wish that annoying fly would die

 

I hire them, immediately invite them to business, immediately sell stock, immediately have them get in my waiting heli and drop them off by the vehicles to sell/deliver. Their heads must be spinning but before they know it they have made a few grand, that's good money for newbies. Then before selling the next business I give them a special title (Road Captain) which keeps them loyal.

 

Alternatively as CEO I hire randoms and make them a sh*t load of cash whilst I blast out headhunter in 2 mins and other things beating/manipulating the cool-downs. Usually they send me a FR, they are then handy for next time.