GTA: Online Breakdown - Bikers

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

 

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

I've been tracking the consumption of supplies, it's really not that bad. Coke went from 10 for full to 12-12.5 for full. That's only an additional $6K an hour you have to pay for it if you buy all your supplies. So regardless of the change, it's still the best money earner between all of them.

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

Yep. Meth and Cash are now more profitable.

 

Although I gotta say, I much rather only have 1,5 bar made because that's always going to be just 1 vehicle. 2 and 2,5 bars gives you 2 vehicles and 3 gives you 3.

But then the price needs to be dropped.

 

Show me the math that proves this

 

75k for 1,5 bar from 2,5 bars is just another thing that screws me over in this game. I'm getting screwed over all the time in this game and I'm tired of it.

You're wrong, actually. It's 2 bars of product now per full supplies instead of 2.5 (upgraded). Not 1.5. I would know as I only have coke business, just bought and sold some last night, and follow it religiously.

[No Homing]

The last 4 times I bought 75k supplies for Coke I got 1,5 bar of product.

Feel free to call me a liar again.

[CaliMeatWagon]

The last 4 times I bought 75k supplies for Coke I got 1,5 bar of product.

Feel free to call me a liar again.

 

Okay, you're a liar.

 

 

On a serious note, either you are lying, or something is wrong with your game and you need to send in a support ticket. Multiple people are reporting supply usage within a common range. You're the only one reporting differently.

 

And how come you don't want to respond to my comments? I even asked you a question: "What in the initial post is incorrect/outdated?"

[Jamwes]

Cali, can you retest weed? I've been using about 9.5 bars of supplies to get 5 bars product since I/E hit. I think they changed the consumption rate, but it could be bugged.

 

I've had 12.5 bars supplies for 5 bars product in both Coke and meth since the biker business bonus week. I think they changed the usage then and it was this way when I tested and posted my results here on 12/17. However, I believe Coke was bugged with the festive surprise event. Which means everyone in this thread is right... Or at least half right...

 

My first load of coke supplies gets me only 1.5 bars of product. However, the second load gives the expected 2 bars for a total of 3.5 bars. I've noticed that after the first delivery, the workers never stop working and play on their phones. A small portion of of the first supply delivery is used instantly. I'm thinking it's bugged and the anti-cheat unlimited supplies bug fix is causing this. The workers still do the working animations because they haven't used up all of the supplies that were acquired in the purchase. However, no additional product is made because you are out of supplies thanks to the tiny portion that disappears upon purchase delivery. Does anyone else have this behavior?

Edited December 27, 2016 by Jamwes

[CaliMeatWagon]

You're wrong, actually. It's 2 bars of product now per full supplies instead of 2.5 (upgraded). Not 1.5. I would know as I only have coke business, just bought and sold some last night, and follow it religiously.

 

 

I've been averaging 0.83 boxes of coke per unit of supplies.

[No Homing]

 

The last 4 times I bought 75k supplies for Coke I got 1,5 bar of product.

Feel free to call me a liar again.

 

Okay, you're a liar.

 

 

On a serious note, either you are lying, or something is wrong with your game and you need to send in a support ticket. Multiple people are reporting supply usage within a common range. You're the only one reporting differently.

 

And how come you don't want to respond to my comments? I even asked you a question: "What in the initial post is incorrect/outdated?"

 

 

Obviously it's glitchy. And with my usual bad luck, it's even glitchier for me.

Why would I be lying? What would be the point of that? What could I possibly achieve with that?

I'm just trying to figure out what the hell R* has done with the consumption rate.

[CaliMeatWagon]

Cali, can you retest weed? I've been using about 9.5 bars of supplies to get 5 bars product since I/E hit. I think they changed the consumption rate, but it could be bugged.

 

I've had 12.5 bars supplies for 5 bars product since the biker business bonus week. I think they changed the usage then. However, I believe Coke is currently bugged and everyone in this thread is right... Or at least half right.

 

My first load of supplies gets me only 1.5 bars of product. However, the second load gives the expected 2 bars for a total of 3.5 bars. I've noticed that after the first delivery, the workers never stop working and play on their phones. A small portion of of the first supply delivery is used instantly. I'm thinking it's bugged and the anti-cheat unlimited supplies bug fix is causing this. The workers still do the working animations because they haven't used up all of the supplies that were acquired in the purchase. However, no additional product is made because you are out of supplies thanks to the tiny portion that disappears upon purchase delivery. Does anyone else have this behavior?

 

I've been testing the 4 main ones. It's on my google sheet linked on the first page and somewhere on this page.

 

I'm just trying to figure out what the hell R* has done with the consumption rate.

 

 

Why not ask them? Instead of wasting time with me, send in a support ticket. I'm sure that would be a lot more productive.

[No Homing]

 

Cali, can you retest weed? I've been using about 9.5 bars of supplies to get 5 bars product since I/E hit. I think they changed the consumption rate, but it could be bugged.

 

I've had 12.5 bars supplies for 5 bars product since the biker business bonus week. I think they changed the usage then. However, I believe Coke is currently bugged and everyone in this thread is right... Or at least half right.

 

My first load of supplies gets me only 1.5 bars of product. However, the second load gives the expected 2 bars for a total of 3.5 bars. I've noticed that after the first delivery, the workers never stop working and play on their phones. A small portion of of the first supply delivery is used instantly. I'm thinking it's bugged and the anti-cheat unlimited supplies bug fix is causing this. The workers still do the working animations because they haven't used up all of the supplies that were acquired in the purchase. However, no additional product is made because you are out of supplies thanks to the tiny portion that disappears upon purchase delivery. Does anyone else have this behavior?

 

I've been testing the 4 main ones. It's on my google sheet linked on the first page and somewhere on this page.

 

I'm just trying to figure out what the hell R* has done with the consumption rate.

 

 

Why not ask them? Instead of wasting time with me, send in a support ticket. I'm sure that would be a lot more productive.

 

 

LMAO. You have got to be kidding me right now? Sending in a support ticket is the biggest waste of time ever. All you get is a generic response that's absolutely not helpfull at all nor will it be relative to the issue.

 

I'm just trying to help and telling you this sh*t is messed up and you say I'm wasting your time.

Screw you and your thread, I'm going home. Have fun trying to figure this messed up sh*t out. I don't have to spent 8 hours a day for months on end grinding for cash.

This is a game not a real life job.

Would have loved to thank you for your efforts but can't do that anymore.

Good day.

Edited December 27, 2016 by Sinner's Rise

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

 

I'm just trying to figure out what the hell R* has done with the consumption rate.

 

 

Why not ask them? Instead of wasting time with me, send in a support ticket. I'm sure that would be a lot more productive.

 

 

LMAO. You have got to be kidding me right now? Sending in a support ticket is the biggest waste of time ever. All you get is a generic response that's absolutely not helpfull at all nor will it be relative to the issue.

 

 

Then call them. Here are their numbers:

 

Contact information

US SUPPORT: (866) 405-5464

CANADIAN SUPPORT: (800) 269-5721

UK SUPPORT: 08005 871102

Alt Phone: (646) 536-2842

Fax: (646) 941-3566

[No Homing]

 

 

 

 

I'm just trying to figure out what the hell R* has done with the consumption rate.

 

 

Why not ask them? Instead of wasting time with me, send in a support ticket. I'm sure that would be a lot more productive.

 

 

LMAO. You have got to be kidding me right now? Sending in a support ticket is the biggest waste of time ever. All you get is a generic response that's absolutely not helpfull at all nor will it be relative to the issue.

 

 

Then call them. Here are their numbers:

 

Contact information

US SUPPORT: (866) 405-5464

CANADIAN SUPPORT: (800) 269-5721

UK SUPPORT: 08005 871102

Alt Phone: (646) 536-2842

Fax: (646) 941-3566

 

 

This is beyond pathetic.

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just trying to figure out what the hell R* has done with the consumption rate.

 

 

Why not ask them? Instead of wasting time with me, send in a support ticket. I'm sure that would be a lot more productive.

 

 

LMAO. You have got to be kidding me right now? Sending in a support ticket is the biggest waste of time ever. All you get is a generic response that's absolutely not helpfull at all nor will it be relative to the issue.

 

 

Then call them. Here are their numbers:

 

Contact information

US SUPPORT: (866) 405-5464

CANADIAN SUPPORT: (800) 269-5721

UK SUPPORT: 08005 871102

Alt Phone: (646) 536-2842

Fax: (646) 941-3566

 

 

This is beyond pathetic.

 

 

That you would prefer to bitch and moan about a problem instead of seeking solutions? Yeah, I would have to agree that it is pathetic. I mean really, who in this thread is supposed to help you with this issue? None of us have any power over the game. None of us can fix your problems. All we can do is help identify that it is one. It's up to you to either wait for R* to fix it on their own, or send in a bug report and see if they can do anything to help you now.

Edited December 27, 2016 by CaliMeatWagon

[No Homing]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just trying to figure out what the hell R* has done with the consumption rate.

 

 

Why not ask them? Instead of wasting time with me, send in a support ticket. I'm sure that would be a lot more productive.

 

 

LMAO. You have got to be kidding me right now? Sending in a support ticket is the biggest waste of time ever. All you get is a generic response that's absolutely not helpfull at all nor will it be relative to the issue.

 

 

Then call them. Here are their numbers:

 

Contact information

US SUPPORT: (866) 405-5464

CANADIAN SUPPORT: (800) 269-5721

UK SUPPORT: 08005 871102

Alt Phone: (646) 536-2842

Fax: (646) 941-3566

 

 

This is beyond pathetic.

 

 

That you would prefer to bitch and moan about a problem instead of seeking solutions? Yeah, I would have to agree that it is pathetic. I mean really, who in this thread is supposed to help you with this issue? None of us have any power over the game. None of us can fix your problems. All we can do is help identify that it is one. It's up to you to either wait for R* to fix it on their own, or send in a bug report and see if they can do anything to help you now.

 

 

Aww, is it that time of the month, hmm?

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just trying to figure out what the hell R* has done with the consumption rate.

 

 

Why not ask them? Instead of wasting time with me, send in a support ticket. I'm sure that would be a lot more productive.

 

 

LMAO. You have got to be kidding me right now? Sending in a support ticket is the biggest waste of time ever. All you get is a generic response that's absolutely not helpfull at all nor will it be relative to the issue.

 

 

Then call them. Here are their numbers:

 

Contact information

US SUPPORT: (866) 405-5464

CANADIAN SUPPORT: (800) 269-5721

UK SUPPORT: 08005 871102

Alt Phone: (646) 536-2842

Fax: (646) 941-3566

 

 

This is beyond pathetic.

 

 

That you would prefer to bitch and moan about a problem instead of seeking solutions? Yeah, I would have to agree that it is pathetic. I mean really, who in this thread is supposed to help you with this issue? None of us have any power over the game. None of us can fix your problems. All we can do is help identify that it is one. It's up to you to either wait for R* to fix it on their own, or send in a bug report and see if they can do anything to help you now.

 

 

Aww, is it that time of the month, hmm?

 

 

I'm not the thirsty one smacking water out of every hand that offers it.

[No Homing]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just trying to figure out what the hell R* has done with the consumption rate.

 

 

Why not ask them? Instead of wasting time with me, send in a support ticket. I'm sure that would be a lot more productive.

 

 

LMAO. You have got to be kidding me right now? Sending in a support ticket is the biggest waste of time ever. All you get is a generic response that's absolutely not helpfull at all nor will it be relative to the issue.

 

 

Then call them. Here are their numbers:

 

Contact information

US SUPPORT: (866) 405-5464

CANADIAN SUPPORT: (800) 269-5721

UK SUPPORT: 08005 871102

Alt Phone: (646) 536-2842

Fax: (646) 941-3566

 

 

This is beyond pathetic.

 

 

That you would prefer to bitch and moan about a problem instead of seeking solutions? Yeah, I would have to agree that it is pathetic. I mean really, who in this thread is supposed to help you with this issue? None of us have any power over the game. None of us can fix your problems. All we can do is help identify that it is one. It's up to you to either wait for R* to fix it on their own, or send in a bug report and see if they can do anything to help you now.

 

 

Aww, is it that time of the month, hmm?

 

 

I'm not the thirsty one smacking water out of every hand that offers it.

 

 

That's cute. Got more of that?

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

I'm not the thirsty one smacking water out of every hand that offers it.

 

 

That's cute. Got more of that?

 

 

Have fun with your glitched supply usage. I'm done conversing with you.

Edited December 27, 2016 by CaliMeatWagon

[Bobfakkel]

Well tbh ive been getting 1.5 bars of stock also when buying 75k of supplies for a fully upgraded alamo sea cocainelab. This is ever since the Import n Export dlc dropped. I shut it down and re opened it to see if it would help, the first batch was normal again with 2 or 2.5 bars of stock but all the runs after were 1.5 again.

 

So for me its 126.000$ minus 75.000$ and 9000$ runningcosts is 42k profit for a 8min average mission(im doing it solo 1 vehicle per time)

 

Im seriously considering shutting it down tbh. Import n Exporting cars makes more then enough anyways.

[CaliMeatWagon]

Well tbh ive been getting 1.5 bars of stock also when buying 75k of supplies for a fully upgraded alamo sea cocainelab. This is ever since the Import n Export dlc dropped. I shut it down and re opened it to see if it would help, the first batch was normal again with 2 or 2.5 bars of stock but all the runs after were 1.5 again.

 

So for me its 126.000$ minus 75.000$ and 9000$ runningcosts is 42k profit for a 8min average mission(im doing it solo 1 vehicle per time)

 

Im seriously considering shutting it down tbh. Import n Exporting cars makes more then enough anyways.

 

Like I suggested above, I would strongly consider contacting R* one way or another about this issue.

 

Now, as seen above, I've documented instances of the supply usage being inconsistent, but nothing as drastic as what you and the other person is reporting.

 

Out of curiosity, are you only selling small portions? If you are willing to, could you fill up your business completely and note how many supplies it took?

[Bobfakkel]

Well firstly im selling solo so i never go above 1.5 bars even if there are supplies left. I know i just have to visit it each 1.5h to get the max for 1 vehicle.

 

Anyways here is the answer to the problem: my supplies were at 0 but like i mentioned last week orso the staff doesnt sit down but keeps working. LJT doesnt call either about supplies. So I thought why not let it run and see how long it takes before and if he calls.

 

So 1 hour later with 0 supplies to start I checked in and all the staff are sitting down BUT I suddenly have 0.5 a bar of stock. So it seems the supplybar and LJT(still didnt call about supplies r empty) are broken.

 

So basicly the game thinks its empty and costing 75k but in reality it should be like 1.5 bars of supplies left and only 45k or 60k buying.

[CaliMeatWagon]

Well firstly im selling solo so i never go above 1.5 bars even if there are supplies left. I know i just have to visit it each 1.5h to get the max for 1 vehicle.

 

Anyways here is the answer to the problem: my supplies were at 0 but like i mentioned last week orso the staff doesnt sit down but keeps working. LJT doesnt call either about supplies. So I thought why not let it run and see how long it takes before and if he calls.

 

So 1 hour later with 0 supplies to start I checked in and all the staff are sitting down BUT I suddenly have 0.5 a bar of stock. So it seems the supplybar and LJT(still didnt call about supplies r empty) are broken.

 

So basicly the game thinks its empty and costing 75k but in reality it should be like 1.5 bars of supplies left and only 45k or 60k buying.

 

I've long thought it was a system where they take a chunk of supplies, taking time to turn it into product instead of "30 minutes passed, here's 0.5 product and I'll take 1 supply". Your observation seems to back up my thought.

[Jamwes]

I posted this above, but I think it's getting lost in the argument. I'm reposting so Cali will see and add to his assessment of the coke business issue.

 

Cali, can you retest weed? I've been using about 9.5 bars of supplies to get 5 bars product since I/E hit. I think they changed the consumption rate, but it could be bugged.

 

I've had 12.5 bars supplies for 5 bars product in both Coke and meth since the biker business bonus week. I think they changed the usage then and it was this way when I tested and posted my results here on 12/17. However, I believe Coke was bugged with the festive surprise event. Which means everyone in this thread is right... Or at least half right...

 

Since the Festive Surprise event started last week, my first load of coke supplies gets me only 1.5 bars of product. However, the second load gives the expected 2 bars for a total of 3.5 bars. I've noticed that after the first delivery, the workers never stop working to play on their phones. A small portion of of the first supply delivery is used instantly. I'm thinking it's bugged and the anti-cheat unlimited supplies bug fix is causing this. The workers still do the working animations because they haven't used up all of the supplies that were acquired in the purchase. However, no additional product is made because you are out of supplies thanks to the tiny portion that disappears upon purchase delivery. Does anyone else have this behavior?

[CaliMeatWagon]

I posted this above, but I think it's getting lost in the argument. I'm reposting so Cali will see and add to his assessment of the coke business issue.

 

Cali, can you retest weed? I've been using about 9.5 bars of supplies to get 5 bars product since I/E hit. I think they changed the consumption rate, but it could be bugged.

 

I've had 12.5 bars supplies for 5 bars product in both Coke and meth since the biker business bonus week. I think they changed the usage then and it was this way when I tested and posted my results here on 12/17. However, I believe Coke was bugged with the festive surprise event. Which means everyone in this thread is right... Or at least half right...

 

Since the Festive Surprise event started last week, my first load of coke supplies gets me only 1.5 bars of product. However, the second load gives the expected 2 bars for a total of 3.5 bars. I've noticed that after the first delivery, the workers never stop working to play on their phones. A small portion of of the first supply delivery is used instantly. I'm thinking it's bugged and the anti-cheat unlimited supplies bug fix is causing this. The workers still do the working animations because they haven't used up all of the supplies that were acquired in the purchase. However, no additional product is made because you are out of supplies thanks to the tiny portion that disappears upon purchase delivery. Does anyone else have this behavior?

 

 

I already responded to you on that:

 

 

 

Cali, can you retest weed? I've been using about 9.5 bars of supplies to get 5 bars product since I/E hit. I think they changed the consumption rate, but it could be bugged.

 

I've had 12.5 bars supplies for 5 bars product since the biker business bonus week. I think they changed the usage then. However, I believe Coke is currently bugged and everyone in this thread is right... Or at least half right.

 

My first load of supplies gets me only 1.5 bars of product. However, the second load gives the expected 2 bars for a total of 3.5 bars. I've noticed that after the first delivery, the workers never stop working and play on their phones. A small portion of of the first supply delivery is used instantly. I'm thinking it's bugged and the anti-cheat unlimited supplies bug fix is causing this. The workers still do the working animations because they haven't used up all of the supplies that were acquired in the purchase. However, no additional product is made because you are out of supplies thanks to the tiny portion that disappears upon purchase delivery. Does anyone else have this behavior?

 

I've been testing the 4 main ones. It's on my google sheet linked on the first page and somewhere on this page.

Edited December 27, 2016 by CaliMeatWagon

[brahmabull]

It's weird that coke is so glitchy and different from player to player. Some have said that it used 10 bars of supplied for 5 bars of product but mine have always used 12.5.

 

I haven't tested it since the new DLC but it feels like it uses even more now. It's like one of the upgrades doesn't work except i get the full price.

 

But now that stealing supplies is very glitchy i'm gonna shut coke down and only run meth. That way i can actually do some steal missions without wasting my time.

[Winonas]

Attempted a Two bar sale run today, it was two postop vans. Shouldn't have been a problem, delivered the first five, got on my Shotaro, from Chumash back to the coke lock up at Alamo. As I approached with over 16 minutes left it cashed me out at half the value quoted and I couldn't get into the second van said it was destroyed . Anyone have an idea what happened? Cheers

[Bobfakkel]

Attempted a Two bar sale run today, it was two postop vans. Shouldn't have been a problem, delivered the first five, got on my Shotaro, from Chumash back to the coke lock up at Alamo. As I approached with over 16 minutes left it cashed me out at half the value quoted and I couldn't get into the second van said it was destroyed . Anyone have an idea what happened? Cheers

Were you in a solo session? I mean someone coulda blew it up or drove it in the water while being off radar.

 

Other then that I saw a Dodo plane blew up once for no reason. But thats it.

[mrfonzius]

Hey guys, is someone else having problems with the coke lab since the update? I often get long black loading screens taking forever when starting a sale, then I have to use any method of switching sessions by joining a friend/ pulling the network cable or other.

 

Those long screens sometimes also result in a gamecrash

 

Like someone earlier said that loadscreen may be to prevent the infinite supply glitch, but for other businesses it has never been that long so far.

 

Shutting it down for a day also did not help, would it make sense to waste the money and change to another cokelab?

Edited December 28, 2016 by mrgstrings

[wudisc]

was helping a friend sell his coke earlier today...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lets just say it was really good sh**

inb4 r* stepped all over it

[CH14R1]

I'm deeply testing this too and today something weird happened on meth, when stealing supplies it would raise around 1.3 pip for bag and 2.5 for truck so it took 2 bags and 1 car to fulfill it.

 

Sadly I don't own coke, just cash and meth, if you want me to test something just let me know.

 

Well, based on post above we can see this is truly messed up.

Edited December 28, 2016 by TH14G0

[JakeHorgrove]

Attempted a Two bar sale run today, it was two postop vans. Shouldn't have been a problem, delivered the first five, got on my Shotaro, from Chumash back to the coke lock up at Alamo. As I approached with over 16 minutes left it cashed me out at half the value quoted and I couldn't get into the second van said it was destroyed . Anyone have an idea what happened? Cheers

Same for me, tried a full weed farm sale, within a block from the third post op with 15 min left, the mission ends.

[mrfonzius]

WTF it just happened for the first time ever with my cash factory

[Bonnie_MacFarlane]

Hey guys, is someone else having problems with the coke lab since the update? I often get long black loading screens taking forever when starting a sale, then I have to use any method of switching sessions by joining a friend/ pulling the network cable or other.

 

Those long screens sometimes also result in a gamecrash

 

Like someone earlier said that loadscreen may be to prevent the infinite supply glitch, but for other businesses it has never been that long so far.

 

Shutting it down for a day also did not help, would it make sense to waste the money and change to another cokelab?

I traded my Alamo Sea coke lockup in for the one at Elysian Island, because my vehicle warehouse and my crate warehouse are also located at Elysian Island. Fully upgraded the relocation costs were 2 mil. but now I have no more problems with buggy supplies refills and so far I'm constantly having 112k product (remote 168k) made out of the bought 75k supplies. But I only had a couple of sells so far...