GTA: Online Breakdown - Bikers

[EkaSwede]

Is it me or has the supply missions been nerfed? My supplies bar doesn't seem to rise that fast at all when soloing.

 

Deliver bag 0.5 bar fills

Deliver van 0.9 bar fills

[IamCourtney]

Its always varied pretty widely for me. I've had vehicle deliveries barely fill a bar then have the next one fill two-and-a-bit. Sometimes you just get a run of sh*tty luck...

[CH14R1]

Its always varied pretty widely for me. I've had vehicle deliveries barely fill a bar then have the next one fill two-and-a-bit. Sometimes you just get a run of sh*tty luck...

Me too, my guess is that it depends of delivery time, but that's just speculation.

 

Yesterday I did 4 ressuplies mission, one van and three bags, all of them filled a pip of supply.

Edited December 22, 2016 by TH14G0

[EkaSwede]

 

Its always varied pretty widely for me. I've had vehicle deliveries barely fill a bar then have the next one fill two-and-a-bit. Sometimes you just get a run of sh*tty luck...

Me too, my guess is that it depends of delivery time, but that's just speculation.

 

Yesterday I did 4 ressuplies mission, one van and three bags, all of them filled a pip of supply.

 

It's annoying, nonetheless. It only happens for the cocaine Lockup too. With counterfeit and Meth it's still relatively reliable.

[scs151]

After 3 supplies i still got half a bar think something is bugged i don't really see any other explanation for what is happening. (this is coke)

Edited December 22, 2016 by scs151

[feiaschdada]

Is it me or has the supply missions been nerfed? My supplies bar doesn't seem to rise that fast at all when soloing.

 

Deliver bag 0.5 bar fills

Deliver van 0.9 bar fills

For coke - but for meth it is 1.2/2

[FaultyDroid]

Maybe this belongs here instead of starting a new thread.

 

Just wondering if its worth me purchasing a biker business post-Imp/Ex? As something to do in the downtime between car sales. If so, which one? My office, apartment & both cargo & vehicle warehouses are all in the city. Im guessing meth is the biggest earner as its the most expensive? I have the cheapest weed growhouse but gave up on it as it wasnt profitable at all.

 

I mostly lone-wolf it, by the way.

[brahmabull]

Maybe this belongs here instead of starting a new thread.

 

Just wondering if its worth me purchasing a biker business post-Imp/Ex? As something to do in the downtime between car sales. If so, which one? My office, apartment & both cargo & vehicle warehouses are all in the city. Im guessing meth is the biggest earner as its the most expensive? I have the cheapest weed growhouse but gave up on it as it wasnt profitable at all.

 

I mostly lone-wolf it, by the way.

Check the first post. It has all the information you need. And Coke is the most profitable.

[CH14R1]

Maybe this belongs here instead of starting a new thread.

 

Just wondering if its worth me purchasing a biker business post-Imp/Ex? As something to do in the downtime between car sales. If so, which one? My office, apartment & both cargo & vehicle warehouses are all in the city. Im guessing meth is the biggest earner as its the most expensive? I have the cheapest weed growhouse but gave up on it as it wasnt profitable at all.

 

I mostly lone-wolf it, by the way.

 

I wouldn't do it. Those business can be very lucrative with at least 2 players for resupplying and selling. It takes forever to fill the supplies when solo or if you buy it, will have to spend at least 150k to produce full stock and selling this will take 20 minutes on average. Some missions you can do in 5min (big truck, short location) but it's very rare. The selling price for full stock is 350k for Meth (which requires 195k if you purchase supplies) or 420k for Coke (idk how much to buy it's supplies but should be around 200k too).

 

The main concern for me it's that delivering is boring as f*ck, one truck/chopper/plane is boring but ok, 2 is a pain in the ass and 3 is the ultimate boredom and you may fail due to time counter (30 min).

 

I would stick to CEO crates, VIP jobs and car cargo. The crate's selling is much less PITA than MC Business and the purchase rarely takes you 10km away.

Edited December 22, 2016 by TH14G0

[FaultyDroid]

Brahmabull: your right, its all there. I should have been less lazy & read it all but im at work on my phone. My bad.

 

TH14G0: Cheers for the reply. I doubt id buy supplies, depends how long it takes to accumulate it stealing it alone. Ive only skim-read the info in OP but buying supplies looks like the least cost & time effective thing ever..!

[CaliMeatWagon]

Brahmabull: your right, its all there. I should have been less lazy & read it all but im at work on my phone. My bad.

 

TH14G0: Cheers for the reply. I doubt id buy supplies, depends how long it takes to accumulate it stealing it alone. Ive only skim-read the info in OP but buying supplies looks like the least cost & time effective thing ever..!

 

I still have to do some further testing to confirm if the supply usage went up, so I'm going to base this on currently known numbers.

 

Fully upgraded Coke takes 5 hours to fully produce. In that time it uses 10 units of supplies. Each unit, if purchased, costs $15,000. So Coke uses $30,000 worth of supplies every hour. And regardless if you purchased or stole the supplies, if you fill it up each time, you'll have to check on it ever 2.5 hours, that's it. That means in the mean time you can do anything else. Sell cars, run missions, or run around in circles in your apartment.

 

So to cover the costs, every hour you would have to:

 

Run Piracy Prevention ($30K)

or

One run each of Headhunter and Sightseer ($44K)

or

Sell a fully upgraded Standard Range car ($30K profit)

or

Punch a bunch of pedestrians ($Priceless)

[JakeHorgrove]

So I sold my full weed warehouse yesterday with one other person in my MC. We got the 3 post-op van mission. We both finished selling our own trucks and made our way back to the city to retrieve the third. I got about a block away from the third truck when the mission suddenly ended. There was 15 mins left on the timer. I didn't see what happened to the truck but there was no one in the vicinity. I was paid but not the full amount.

 

Other free roam activities immediately started, or maybe they were going on simultaneously but I was unaware. Is this something normal with this mission? Glitch?

[No Homing]

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

[kenmy13999]

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

[No Homing]

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

Yep. Meth and Cash are now more profitable.

 

Although I gotta say, I much rather only have 1,5 bar made because that's always going to be just 1 vehicle. 2 and 2,5 bars gives you 2 vehicles and 3 gives you 3.

But then the price needs to be dropped.

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

I've been tracking the consumption of supplies, it's really not that bad. Coke went from 10 for full to 12-12.5 for full. That's only an additional $6K an hour you have to pay for it if you buy all your supplies. So regardless of the change, it's still the best money earner between all of them.

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

Yep. Meth and Cash are now more profitable.

 

Although I gotta say, I much rather only have 1,5 bar made because that's always going to be just 1 vehicle. 2 and 2,5 bars gives you 2 vehicles and 3 gives you 3.

But then the price needs to be dropped.

 

 

Show me the math that proves this

[No Homing]

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

I've been tracking the consumption of supplies, it's really not that bad. Coke went from 10 for full to 12-12.5 for full. That's only an additional $6K an hour you have to pay for it if you buy all your supplies. So regardless of the change, it's still the best money earner between all of them.

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

Yep. Meth and Cash are now more profitable.

 

Although I gotta say, I much rather only have 1,5 bar made because that's always going to be just 1 vehicle. 2 and 2,5 bars gives you 2 vehicles and 3 gives you 3.

But then the price needs to be dropped.

 

 

Show me the math that proves this

 

 

75k for 1,5 bar from 2,5 bars is just another thing that screws me over in this game. I'm getting screwed over all the time in this game and I'm tired of it.

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

I've been tracking the consumption of supplies, it's really not that bad. Coke went from 10 for full to 12-12.5 for full. That's only an additional $6K an hour you have to pay for it if you buy all your supplies. So regardless of the change, it's still the best money earner between all of them.

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

Yep. Meth and Cash are now more profitable.

 

Although I gotta say, I much rather only have 1,5 bar made because that's always going to be just 1 vehicle. 2 and 2,5 bars gives you 2 vehicles and 3 gives you 3.

But then the price needs to be dropped.

 

 

Show me the math that proves this

 

 

75k for 1,5 bar from 2,5 bars is just another thing that screws me over in this game. I'm getting screwed over all the time in this game and I'm tired of it.

 

 

Show me the math that proves that Coke is not longer the best earner between all the businesses. Or are you just talking out your ass because your butt hurt that R* cut into your profits a little bit?

Because I'll tell you a little secret, I've done the math, and it's still the best money earner between them.

Edited December 27, 2016 by CaliMeatWagon

[No Homing]

 

 

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

I've been tracking the consumption of supplies, it's really not that bad. Coke went from 10 for full to 12-12.5 for full. That's only an additional $6K an hour you have to pay for it if you buy all your supplies. So regardless of the change, it's still the best money earner between all of them.

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.

Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

 

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

Yep. Meth and Cash are now more profitable.

 

Although I gotta say, I much rather only have 1,5 bar made because that's always going to be just 1 vehicle. 2 and 2,5 bars gives you 2 vehicles and 3 gives you 3.

But then the price needs to be dropped.

 

 

Show me the math that proves this

 

 

75k for 1,5 bar from 2,5 bars is just another thing that screws me over in this game. I'm getting screwed over all the time in this game and I'm tired of it.

 

 

Show me the math that proves that Coke is not longer the best earner between all the businesses. Or are you just talking out your ass because your butt hurt that R* cut into your profits a little bit?

Because I'll tell you a little secret, I've done the math, and it's still the best money earner between them.

 

 

What? 75k of supplies gives you less worth of product than Meth and Cash but the sell missions will be done faster because you only get 1 vehicle for Coke.

I couldn't care less about the math I have plenty of dough to last me for a while.

I just like to make money from time to time and I don't like getting screwed over.

 

Don't get mad at me for not kissing Rockstar's ass.

Edited December 27, 2016 by Sinner's Rise

[kenmy13999]

Before this update I could refill 1 time, then sell, refill 1 time, then sell again. When I bought supplies it cost me 75.000 for each sale and now it will cost me somewhere around 200.000 so that's a huge difference if you ask me. I might have had some sort of bug so I used less supplies than I was supposed too

 

Edit: and I always sell when product is full 5 bars

Edited December 27, 2016 by kenmy13999

[No Homing]

All I did here was to inform people of the nerf to supplies just incase no one else had mentioned it.

I didn't came here to question the math or anyone's knowledge.

I'm no expert, I got advice from a friend and discovered they nerfed the supplies.

I appreciate your efforts into making all these amazing knowledge bases.

I'm not sure why you decided to give me all this sh*t.

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So it seems like they nerfed supplies pretty hard.
Buying full supplies (75k) now only gives you 1,5 bar for Coke and 2 for Meth. Still 2,5 for Cash, though.

Great f*cking game, thanks a lot R*.

This has made me considering shutting down my coke factory

 

 

Yep. Meth and Cash are now more profitable.

 

Although I gotta say, I much rather only have 1,5 bar made because that's always going to be just 1 vehicle. 2 and 2,5 bars gives you 2 vehicles and 3 gives you 3.

But then the price needs to be dropped.

 

 

Show me the math that proves this

 

 

75k for 1,5 bar from 2,5 bars is just another thing that screws me over in this game. I'm getting screwed over all the time in this game and I'm tired of it.

 

 

Show me the math that proves that Coke is not longer the best earner between all the businesses. Or are you just talking out your ass because your butt hurt that R* cut into your profits a little bit?

Because I'll tell you a little secret, I've done the math, and it's still the best money earner between them.

 

 

What? 75k of supplies gives you less worth of product than Meth and Cash but the sell missions will be done faster because you only get 1 vehicle for Coke.

I couldn't care less about the math I have plenty of dough to last me for a while.

I just like to make money from time to time and I don't like getting screwed over.

 

Don't get mad at me for not kissing Rockstar's ass.

 

I don't care about your personal feelings towards R*, I just dislike it when people try to spread lies and misinformation, especially when it's motivated by emotion.

 

Math

Coke:

($280,000*1.5)-($15,000*13)= $225,000 Profit

Meth:

($238,000*1.5)-($15,000*12)= $177,000 Profit

Counterfeiting:
($196,000*1.5)-($15,000*10)= $144,000 Profit

Weed:

($168,000*1.5)-(15,000*8)= $132,000 Profit

Edited December 27, 2016 by CaliMeatWagon

[CaliMeatWagon]

All I did here was to inform people of the nerf to supplies just incase no one else had mentioned it.

I didn't came here to question the math or anyone's knowledge.

I'm no expert, I got advice from a friend and discovered they nerfed the supplies.

I appreciate your efforts into making all these amazing knowledge bases.

I'm not sure why you decided to give me all this sh*t.

 

Because you came in here making false claims. If you are going to claim something is some way, then be ready to back it up. This thread is for the un-biased truth, not emotional opinions.

[No Homing]

Wtf?? I didn't came here to spread any false claims or lies. All I did was say you now need more supplies to fill up your meth and coke businesses.

 

Plus, your math is wrong.

75k supplies fills up 1,5 bar. So you need 3,3 times 75k supplies. That's 250k.

420k - 250k = 170k.

 

Your thread is outdated, before you accuse me of spreading lies, have a look at your own thread first. It's still outdated.

[DevilDaRebel]

Wtf?? I didn't came here to spread any false claims or lies. All I did was say you now need more supplies to fill up your meth and coke businesses.

 

Plus, your math is wrong.

75k supplies fills up 1,5 bar. So you need 3,3 times 75k supplies. That's 250k.

420k - 250k = 170k.

 

Your thread is outdated, before you accuse me of spreading lies, have a look at your own thread first. It's still outdated.

 

75k does not fill one and half bar... it varies..I think. I've also noticed that some resupply mission fill your supplies bar more..and I don't mean another TYPE of resupply mission.. I mean it's random.. the same resupply mission can either fill 3 bars.. or one.

[Anasterian]

Bought 75k supplies, which should have been 2.5 bars of product. Only got two. Then I did a humane labs resupply run, it always gave two bars, now it gave only 1.5 bars of supplies. This only gave me 0.5 bars of product. Sold the 2.5 bars after that and never bothered again... think I'll just resupply it once more and close it up to stop the calls..

[No Homing]

 

Wtf?? I didn't came here to spread any false claims or lies. All I did was say you now need more supplies to fill up your meth and coke businesses.

 

Plus, your math is wrong.

75k supplies fills up 1,5 bar. So you need 3,3 times 75k supplies. That's 250k.

420k - 250k = 170k.

 

Your thread is outdated, before you accuse me of spreading lies, have a look at your own thread first. It's still outdated.

 

75k does not fill one and half bar... it varies..I think. I've also noticed that some resupply mission fill your supplies bar more..and I don't mean another TYPE of resupply mission.. I mean it's random.. the same resupply mission can either fill 3 bars.. or one.

 

 

I don't do resupply missions anymore, but it might be a glitch, yeah.

But if you only buy 75k worth of supplies for Coke, Meth and Cash, then selling after that product has been made, you'll get more for Meth and Cash than for Coke. I didn't look at the time it takes to fill it up, I just do other stuff while it fills up.

[kenmy13999]

Bought 75k supplies, which should have been 2.5 bars of product. Only got two. Then I did a humane labs resupply run, it always gave two bars, now it gave only 1.5 bars of supplies. This only gave me 0.5 bars of product. Sold the 2.5 bars after that and never bothered again... think I'll just resupply it once more and close it up to stop the calls..

I think it's totally random when you steal supplies, the other day I got 4 bars of supplies in one run and other times I've gotten 1.5 bars of supplies.

It's probably covered in this thread, but maybe it has something to do with how many people it's in your mc? I think we were 6 people when I got 4 bars in one run and the other times we've been 2 or 3

[No Homing]

 

Bought 75k supplies, which should have been 2.5 bars of product. Only got two. Then I did a humane labs resupply run, it always gave two bars, now it gave only 1.5 bars of supplies. This only gave me 0.5 bars of product. Sold the 2.5 bars after that and never bothered again... think I'll just resupply it once more and close it up to stop the calls..

I think it's totally random when you steal supplies, the other day I got 4 bars of supplies in one run and other times I've gotten 1.5 bars of supplies.

It's probably covered in this thread, but maybe it has something to do with how many people it's in your mc? I think we were 6 people when I got 4 bars in one run and the other times we've been 2 or 3

 

 

Yes, with more people in your MC you get more supplies.

And when your supplies are in a vehicle you get more than when you have to pick it up and carry it.

[CaliMeatWagon]

Wtf?? I didn't came here to spread any false claims or lies. 1) All I did was say you now need more supplies to fill up your meth and coke businesses.

 

2). Plus, your math is wrong.

75k supplies fills up 1,5 bar. So you need 3,3 times 75k supplies. That's 250k.

420k - 250k = 170k.

 

3) Your thread is outdated, before you accuse me of spreading lies, have a look at your own thread first. It's still outdated.

 

 

1) Actually, you didn't:

 

 

Yep. Meth and Cash are now more profitable.

 

Although I gotta say, I much rather only have 1,5 bar made because that's always going to be just 1 vehicle. 2 and 2,5 bars gives you 2 vehicles and 3 gives you 3.

But then the price needs to be dropped.

 

 

2). Actually, my math is 100% accurate as it's done with a calculator. As for the supply usage, I track it diligently. I make sure I have fully supplies before I sell, I let it complete run out of supplies before I restock, noting every step of the process. As for the numbers of supplies need when purchased, that number was rounded up because you can not buy partial supplies. Here is a snip from this sheet where I track it all:

 

3) Please tell me what information on the initial post is incorrect, or "outdated".

Edited December 27, 2016 by CaliMeatWagon