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[Vehicles] The Official B*tch & Moan Topic


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^^^^ One of the hardest cars for me to drive in the old Gran Turismo series. You REALLY have to know what you're doing to drive one at the limit.

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R* is clearly lazy with vehicle interiors. Rarely they will make unique ones for specified vehicles, but even so, they'll recycle interiors due to their lack of creativity and general laziness. I'm just tired of R* not putting any effort in making different, unique interiors for different vehicles, including boats and aircraft.

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R* is clearly lazy with vehicle interiors. Rarely they will make unique ones for specified vehicles, but even so, they'll recycle interiors due to their lack of creativity and general laziness. I'm just tired of R* not putting any effort in making different, unique interiors for different vehicles, including boats and aircraft.

It's less work for them and I'd prefer them

Re-use interiors for land vehicles. Wouldn't mind the odd new one every now and then but majority don't even look at the interiors so I doubt it's a big concern for R*. As for aircrafts and boats, i agree and would like something new.

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I was watching Better Call Saul and I noticed how good Nacho's van looks in that it's well worn and aged but still quite smart and it made me think of the rusty option in GTA which looks like the car in question has been in the open air and used as a tramp's toilet for the last forty years.

 

I have loads of cars that I'd like to have that lived in look as that's how I see them in my mind but if it's a choice between showroom quality or tramp's communal bathroom I'll have to go with the former.

 

Something inbetween the two would be much appreciated by me, a slider would be ideal.

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The fact that the only whitewalls available to non-Benny's cars are thick as all hell so I can't recreate lovely looking images like this:

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I find it ridiculous that Rockstar didn't add rear louvers as a customization option for the Dukes when the Duke o' Death has them and in GTA IV the Dukes could spawn with them.

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R* is clearly lazy with vehicle interiors. Rarely they will make unique ones for specified vehicles, but even so, they'll recycle interiors due to their lack of creativity and general laziness. I'm just tired of R* not putting any effort in making different, unique interiors for different vehicles, including boats and aircraft.

It's less work for them and I'd prefer them

Re-use interiors for land vehicles. Wouldn't mind the odd new one every now and then but majority don't even look at the interiors so I doubt it's a big concern for R*. As for aircrafts and boats, i agree and would like something new.

Eh I disagree. I even cared about interiors back in IV and that's when they got it right. Super GT, Feltzer, Infernue, Turismo, Banshee, Comet, etc they all had their own interiors and it added so much even when you didn't have POV I mean it is still a part of the vehicle design. It matters and I'm noticing more people are starting to bitch about it.

 

I should not hop in a cheap sports car and then into a multimillion dollar hyper car and have the same piece of sh*t interior. There shouldn't be a beater 2000's compact car interior inside of a GT exotic. There should not be a 90's SUV interior inside of a 60's Volkswagen bus. Not every sports car should share a 2003 Audi A3 interior (9F, Lynx, Alpha, Bestia, basically every sports category car and etc). The list goes on.

 

It does matter, majorly. Just like wheels the interior could make or break a car.

 

I'm not asking for every interior to be different or ultra realistic but they should put the same amount of effort in as they did with IV which, again, didn't even have POV.

 

I'm sorry but there is absolutely NO excuse whatsoever.

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Decided to get my second account some special colored cars. Scrolling through all the 160 colors just made me sad again. Why can't they all be at lsc. :(

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I was looking through the past four updates and all of the cars it included to prepare myself for what's to come. Chronologically the cars have gotten a little better. The Youga Classic has no faults imo aside from the interior which is to be expected. Tornado rat thing was okay it just sounded weak but looks were solid aside from lack of mods. And Raptor was great aside from the fact you couldn't change the rear wheel. And before then was the Lynx which was okay but overpriced and honestly if it didn't have any custom bumpers I probably wouldn't have bought it because the original front is hideous.

 

If they put as much effort and detail into these next vehicles especially with it being a vehicle update they could succeed. But there's been a lot of awesome concepts ruined by poor quality work.

  • Reaper looked good from front. What killed it wasn't the Lykan influence but the low detail. The car modeling looks very low quality past the front end.
  • XLS looks good but it sounds like trash and has no interior options plus it's slow.

Those are just a few examples. I don't want to be a pessimist but here are ways they could f*ck up the next selection of cars:

  • Ocelot Penetrator could have a tacky ricer-ish front end with no badge, a forced front splitter with regular headlights that don't pop up and look tacky.
  • Dewbauchee Specter could be a Vulcan without all of the racer stuff stock and have a DB11 rear with a tacky DB10 grill and no rear passenger windows like the Vulcan. Awkward proportions.
  • Pegassi Tempesta could be given the typical Pegassi treatment. Another prettied up Banshee interior with tacky orange stitching like every other Pegassi with a Rezvani Beast front end. Same crappy 0% traction handling despite it being AWD with a crappy engine note that sounds more like revving a Camry than an N/A V10.
  • Annis Elegy Retro could have a Supra front and R34 rear with not many good mods or lots of mods but none that you want. 9F interior because apparently an early 00's JDM car has a better infotainment system than the average luxury car around its time.
  • Pfister Comet Retro could be a 944. Nuff said? No. It could have a 911 front but the side could be distorted and so not 911. Same with the rear. Or it could be a current Comet given the classic treatment somehow??? Or the stock Retro could have a forced restomod wide body. Oh, and it could have no front badge or badges at all. Am I giving you nightmares yet?
  • Truffade Nero could be an EB112 or that ugly thing that starts with a G. It could be a waste of space and have nothing good or interesting about it at all.
  • Progen Itali GTB could be a tasteless concept hypercar or something weird/unoriginal. Or it could be concept Ferrari mixed with some concept McLaren. Or the 488 570 mix could suck. Idk.
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this game doesn't f*cking need vehicles

My vehicle B&M is that you haven't been run over by a vehicle yet.

 

OT: I wish the Voltic was badged as something other than Coil because I like the styling but loathe the lack of an engine sound. Why couldn't we have had it just based off an Elise instead?

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As a fan of muscle cars, the fact every single one of them shares the exact same interior kills me a little every time I hop into one.

 

Come on Rockstar, what happened to giving a f*ck?

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As a fan of muscle cars, the fact every single one of them shares the exact same interior kills me a little every time I hop into one.

Come on Rockstar, what happened to giving a f*ck?

Classics too. The Stirling GT is basically perfect.what keeps it from being 100% perfect? That muscle car interior. Especially knowing that reusing a Peyote interior would've fit the car like a glove...
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Why the f*ck on some cars can I not put a crew colour as primary and switch crews to use another crew colour as secondary?

It changes the entire colour when I change the secondary or primary depending on what I try to apply second...if I'm combining anything with black then it has to be pure black for the contrast 😡

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It's looking more and more like the Comet3 (Comet Retro Custom) is going to be the only version of the Comet Classic available.

With those stupid fenders as stock.

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The horrors I see in 1st person view at times ... Need to move cam to bonnet view !

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Tfw then finally make a great Pegassi but somehow screw up on a 488 and 570S mixture and make it look like a retarded love child. How? Specter looks bad too. Honestly a big disappointed but everything else makes up for it.

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We really need more older foreign vehicles. I'm having to fill up my second office garage with crap like the Kalahari

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The bumper options for the Elegy Retro, there's a sh*t ton irl but all the in game one has are lip kits and diffusers, disappointed that most of my ideas for it won't work because of that.

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Not gonna lie the Comet Retro has to very good otherwise I'm not buying it either. It has a modern Comet interior. Why? Not to mention that wide body you can't remove. They couldn't have just kept it simple?

 

And the Nero. Solid car. Unique interior with unique stitching and colors you can change, a working wing and supposedly better steering feel/sense of weight and better acceleration and overall speed. Sounds great right...? Well it's held back. Because Rockstar wants to continue with this idiotic drip feeding method. Why?

 

Onto what's wrong with the Nero itself, I hate the secondary paint still. It's a much more refined and way more expensive looking car and the two tone job is better than before but it still has stripes on the hood. Why? That's the only thing I can fault it for. Nevermind I watched the video and the stock hood has it to where you don't have to have stripes. Otherwise it's gonna be a pain in the ass waiting. :angry:

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I have a lot things to say, but this is one comes to mind instant. I have posted this image already long time ago somewhere, but I show it again here:

 

 

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Here is comparison screens I took of GTA IV and GTA V, (IV up, V bottom). I can't be only who notices f*cked up smoothing groups? Look door seams how the lighting and reflections goes. Also whole side line between door handles and windows is missing. Many cars have this issue.

 

Another example:

 

 

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Look missing panel gap (between black and red part). Look door handles.

 

Yes, cars have more polygons in GTA V and better looking paint (I think), but smoothing groups, details and random things are worse in GTA V. I don't know why, but feels like some vehicle artists have changed since IV days. Or these are just some lazy converts. But then I'm wondering why also some new cars like Warrener have this smoothing group issue:

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Tfw then finally make a great Pegassi but somehow screw up on a 488 and 570S mixture and make it look like a retarded love child. How? Specter looks bad too. Honestly a big disappointed but everything else makes up for it.

R* is amazing at making parts of a car look great but then theres always one part that just looks terrible

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Someone please tell me why a 60's rusted out BF Surfer has the same interior as my brand new Benefactor?

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Why the f*ck the Elegy Retro Custom is a custom variant of the Elegy RH8, while they are two different cars? Have you even seen an R35 turned into an R33?

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Idk what's up with the Elegy Retro Custom's passenger door handle. One moment it's there, one moment it's gone. I swear. Like, just, what? How do you even trace this kind of bug? It doesn't seem to be dependent on the door being damaged or not, windows down or not, open/closed doors...

 

Also, Special Vehicles unusable outside of freeroam? Yeah, R*, you just made sure I won't buy any.

Ramp car explodes after hitting like 20 cars? lol GG R*

Ruiner has limited rocket ammo that you have to pay to refill... GG R*. I mean, I'm not buying it regardless of that since it's locked to freeroam, but still... not like the jets and the savage and the buzzard have infinite rockets and guns, not at all. "Balance" because obviously, the dude in a Ruiner who can't fly over buildings is going to be OP with infinite rockets. More so than a jet or a helicopter with infinite rockets. Which you can use in contact missions. And which are way cheaper. And which aren't on a 5 minute cooldown. I can even spawn one of those infinite rocket helicopters as a CEO right next to me. And spawn it again immediately after it's destroyed by calling Pegasus.

 

BUT HEY, RUINER WOULD BE OP

 

And finally... R* dripfeed.

Now, I know there's one bike hidden in the files, the Comet Retro, the ItaliGTB, the Nero, the Spectre. And custom versions of the bike and the latter three cars. I can just about taste the disappointment when in a week, they release just the bike. Which I don't care about. I have more bikes than I ever had thanks to the clubhouse, and they're basically enough for me. I'm just not a bike fan.

 

Also the bike isn't as expensive as the other cars, so it's not like you're making me waste my hard earned money even if I end up buying it out of boredom. It's not going to stop me getting the cars when they eventually release.

 

 

I'm beginning to think I should just grind the sh*t out of whatever I can, earn millions, then when a DLC is announced... add another month or two to the date so that I know when I can log in, and buy the sh*t I want immediately rather than be told "oh but it's hidden in the files, alongside an adversary mode ayy lmao we're releasing it in like 3 weeks you peasant"

 

f*cking bullsh*t. If I didn't know there were hidden cars, I'd just think that they released a huge import/export DLC while adding like three cars. Wow. Three. Amazing. I'm guessing the main money drain was meant to be Special Vehicles, which failed spectacularly, so now there's nothing to spend money on from this DLC.

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Imponte took a massive sh*t and named it "Ruiner 2000" :angry:

How does everyone already own this?! It literally costs around 5 milion!

Trying to do my CEO missions and people won't leave me alone. ffs

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Don't know if this is the right place for this, but I was testing the new Specter in single player and...

 

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Yea, it got not one, but two RPM meters.

When you start the engine, the one on the left goes to up to 5.900rpm and stays there. The one on the right is functional.

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Seriously R* what the f*ck!? You have been working on this game now for over 3 years and it still has no manual transmission where the player controls the shifts of the car? Why is this a thing? Automatics suck!

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