Assassin's Creed Series

[Jason]

Once upon a time you could rely on every yearly Ubi show for new IP announcements and plenty of gameplay. It made putting up with their... Frenchess worth it.

 

Now you just got the nth new entry into one of their handful of decades old franchises.... with no gameplay.

 

What a bad few years they've had.

 

Mirage sounds interesting on paper at least, seeing as we got no gameplay. Good to know we can pre-order it and get an exclusive quest, though.

[DexMacLeod]

Just finished watching the Assassin's Creed portion of the UBI forward thing and I feel like I've already forgotten most of it. Not sure if it was information overload, the fact most that of the interesting stuff still feels really far away, or that there just wasn't much interesting stuff at all.

[Jason]

Absolutely terrible showing from Ubi, tbh. The games might be interesting but who knows, we saw no gameplay or anything, just a CG trailer for Mirage and yet more really early announcements for the next AC games.

 

AC Japan by the Odyssey team could be good, I suppose. Hexe sounds like a bit of a genre bend for AC, could be good too... I suppose, lol.

 

No Avatar game at all btw, was meant to be out this year btw. Ubi doing greeeeeeeeeeeeeat right now.

[Kris194]

What's interesting is that AC: Mirage trailer didn't leak before showcase, what a "coincidence".

[Zello]

Hexe is either going to be like The Witcher or Ubisoft is going to copy Fromsoftware and attempt to make a souls like game.

Edited September 10 by Zello

[DEADWOODZ]

Hexe is supposedly going to be about the Wurzburg Witch Trials which took place around 1625 & 1631.

[Jason]

3 minutes ago, Zello said:

Hexe is either going to be like The Witcher or Ubisoft is going to copy Fromsoftware and attempt to make a souls like game.

 

The AC RPG trilogy was them trying to imitate TW3. I did think Soulslike my self but eeehhhh I dunno If Ubi will go down that route, Soulslike and roguelike are two terms that can instantly put people off a game as there's a good amount of people who don't like those styles of games.

 

I think a safe bet would be that it's a slower paced AC game with horror elements. We'll see... in 2024 or so.

[Darth Absentis]

Thanks to the new trailer i do have the 'Ezio's family' theme back in my head though, so that is something

 

[Kris194]

23 minutes ago, Zello said:

Hexe is either going to be like The Witcher or Ubisoft is going to copy Fromsoftware and attempt to make a souls like game.

As far as rumors go, Hexe will be really dark game. I'm pretty sure, that it will be way more interesting than "Red" set in Feudal Japan that some people wanted so much.

Edited September 10 by Kris194

[Zello]

5 hours ago, Kris194 said:

As far as rumors go, Hexe will be really dark game. I'm pretty sure, that it will be way more interesting than "Red" set in Feudal Japan that some people wanted so much.

They’re putting Clint Hocking the guy who was responsible for Watch Dogs Legion in charge of Hexe so I’m expecting it to be a terrible sh*tty game

 

I like Red because it’s about damn time they give us Japan. Don’t care if they’re gonna get compared to Ghost of Tshushima.

Edited September 11 by Zello

[Ryo256]

44 minutes ago, Zello said:

Hexe is either going to be like The Witcher or Ubisoft is going to copy Fromsoftware and attempt to make a souls like game.

I reckon it is going to be like The Witcher (because that's the safer bet) but with an optional souls-like combat system or maybe a souls-like DLC.

Edited September 10 by Ryo256

[Creed Bratton]

10 hours ago, Jason said:

 

The AC RPG trilogy was them trying to imitate TW3. I did think Soulslike my self but eeehhhh I dunno If Ubi will go down that route, Soulslike and roguelike are two terms that can instantly put people off a game as there's a good amount of people who don't like those styles of games.

 

I think a safe bet would be that it's a slower paced AC game with horror elements. We'll see... in 2024 or so.

I don't understand why they keep trying to imitate other games, when AC already had a unique winning formula of its own.

[Jason]

3 hours ago, Creed Bratton said:

I don't understand why they keep trying to imitate other games, when AC already had a unique winning formula of its own.

 

Cause they only make AC and Tom Clancy games now so they need to diversify them within the franchises lol.

 

I enjoyed Odyssey and Valhalla but I do wonder what they'd have looked like had they been new IP's without the baggage of the AC franchise behind them. I'm not against reinventing and refreshing old franchises but I do think that they could have had more freedom with the AC RPG trilogy had they not placed it in the AC franchise.

 

Edit: weird thing going on with the pre-order pages on Xbox right now:

 

 

The game is classed as AO in the US and R18+ in Aus, higher than previous entries and neither console platform usually allows AO games. "Real gambling" seems to be the catch with other regional store pages having high ratings due to heavy gambling too. Lootboxes never usually give this rating or description so there's speculation there could be something with NFT's in the game?

 

Hope it's nothing more than a mistake but that is a very odd.

[Dbzk1999]

3 hours ago, Creed Bratton said:

I don't understand why they keep trying to imitate other games, when AC already had a unique winning formula of its own.

Unique winning formula? Near the beginning to around a black flag sure. But after Syndicate? No, as much as people feel nostalgic now, it clearly was having diminishing returns in 2015. 

[Kris194]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Cause they only make AC and Tom Clancy games now so they need to diversify them within the franchises lol.

 

I enjoyed Odyssey and Valhalla but I do wonder what they'd have looked like had they been new IP's without the baggage of the AC franchise behind them. I'm not against reinventing and refreshing old franchises but I do think that they could have had more freedom with the AC RPG trilogy had they not placed it in the AC franchise.

 

Edit: weird thing going on with the pre-order pages on Xbox right now:

 

 

The game is classed as AO in the US and R18+ in Aus, higher than previous entries and neither console platform usually allows AO games. "Real gambling" seems to be the catch with other regional store pages having high ratings due to heavy gambling too. Lootboxes never usually give this rating or description so there's speculation there could be something with NFT's in the game?

 

Hope it's nothing more than a mistake but that is a very odd.

In-game purchases, real gambling?

 

Edited September 11 by Kris194

[Jason]

It does seem that Mirage's AO rating is not a mistake btw, the stream mentioned AO and there's a rating pending logo for games with no rating, so all signs point to Mirage having an AO rating as of today. This is pretty big news given that AO games are instantly refused certification on consoles and AO games can also not be streamed on streaming sites like Twitch.

 

So.... no idea what's going on, perhaps Ubi will dial whatever is giving it that rating down in future.

[Craigsters]

I thought that the next assassin's creed game was going live and a monthly fee was needed to play it even after  full purchase?

[Jason]

Just now, Craigsters said:

I thought that the next assassin's creed game was going live and a monthly fee was needed to play it even after  full purchase?

 

No, that was never a thing.

 

"Infinity" is going to be a hub of sorts for future AC projects which will vary in scale, size and form. Given that future games will have little to no modern day story telling I would not be surprised if Infinity is where the modern day story is told and the games where the historic story is told.

[Zello]

Ubisoft really screwing up. Unless consoles allow AO games wtf.

[Jason]

We know what type of games Ubi make, they don't make anything to warrant an AO rating. So it has to be tied to the gambling tags the game is getting. Now lootboxes aren't enough for that, cause I mean Fifa is ages 3 and up. So... what is it? 

 

The "Real Gambling" tag makes me think crypto/NFT for sure. Perhaps you can earn a "premium" crypto currency that you can cash out on or something.

 

If this is the case and this isn't some massive understanding then I am really, really looking forward to them announcing it. The bloodbath will make some of the worst monetisation stories (like Battlefront 2) look like kids stuff.

[DexMacLeod]

lol "Real Gambling". At this point, paying full price for a Triple A game is a "real gamble". 

[Zello]

Ubisoft is trying to make history. The first major AAA title to receive an AO rating. Going to have to buy it just to have it as a souvenir

[DEADWOODZ]

https://www.eurogamer.net/ubisoft-clears-up-confusion-over-listing-which-claimed-assassins-creed-mirage-had-real-gambling

[Jason]

How did an AO rating with real gambling descriptions get put on the game on multiple store regions? That's a new one, Ubi.

[Creed Bratton]

"No gambling or lootboxes here, fellas. But while you're here, wanna buy some chancepackages?"

[Donald Lov]

If Assassin's Creed games have often been worth buying just to immerself oneself in an exotic historical setting that no other developer could offer, feudal Japan would not be one of them, I think. Over the last few years, we've had Nioh, Sekiro and Ghost of Tsushima all taking place in traditional Japan. Will Ubisoft be able to come up with something interesting to make people buy?

Edited September 12 by Donald Lov

[Space Cowboy]

29 minutes ago, Donald Lov said:

If Assassin's Creed games have often been worth buying just to immerself oneself in an exotic historical setting that no other developer could offer, feudal Japan would not be one of them, I think. Over the last few years, we've had Nioh, Sekiro and Ghost of Tsushima all taking place in traditional Japan. Will Ubisoft be able to come up with something interesting to make people buy?

"Traditional Japan" is a very vague term. Can't speak for Ghost of Tsushima story-wise much since I didn't play it properly, but both Nioh and Sekiro are not open world and they have heavy fantastical elements. They aren't really similar to AC games in any way. I heard GoT is similar to an AC game, but Ubisoft can easily set it in a different time period.

[Donald Lov]

2 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

"Traditional Japan" is a very vague term. Can't speak for Ghost of Tsushima story-wise much since I didn't play it properly, but both Nioh and Sekiro are not open world and they have heavy fantastical elements. They aren't really similar to AC games in any way. I heard GoT is similar to an AC game, but Ubisoft can easily set it in a different time period.

Yeah, but I guess it's mostly a matter of aesthetics. 

[Zello]

4 hours ago, Donald Lov said:

If Assassin's Creed games have often been worth buying just to immerself oneself in an exotic historical setting that no other developer could offer, feudal Japan would not be one of them, I think. Over the last few years, we've had Nioh, Sekiro and Ghost of Tsushima all taking place in traditional Japan. Will Ubisoft be able to come up with something interesting to make people buy?

People have been asking for an AC Japan for years man. Just because there are other games doesn’t mean everyone has played them. Ghost of Tsushima is a PlayStation exclusive and Sekiro is fromsoftware and is an entirely different vibe than AC.

[Ryo256]

I don't really task Ubisoft with the burden of making a good historical setting for Japan this time because I think they already proven themselves capable in that department with ancient Egypt and Greece. I assume they are going for fanservice factor rather than that this time i.e a setting choice because fans asked for it and also another reason because we already have an assassin in lore that lives in Japan. So they didn't pick Japan primarily for an interesting unique setting in my opinion, so I wouldn't hold them to it.