Assassin's Creed Series

[Journey_95]

It's my personal favorite. I can crown it as the best AC game ever without a single doubt. I spend 122 hours in the main game + dlc and have played Discovery mode for around 4 hours so far. I'll easily get 10+ hours out of it. I already want to start a NG+ but I'm holding myself back for after the 2nd dlc. I could never finish a 2nd playthrough of any AC game before. I'll top those 200 hours easily.

 

It's not just the playtime of course. It's everything. I just f*cking love it.

 

Players have split opinions regarding the story but I enjoyed it a lot, can even kick Ezio out of his throne and place Bayek on top. Bayek is incredibly well written, has a dope voice actor, he's emotional, relatable and simply very likeable and characteristic. I cannot wait to play through his story again.

 

Napoleon's times never interested me as much as the Egyptian culture and history, so there's massive bonus points for Origins. Egypt is mysterious, exciting and looks incredible. I loved Egypt since my school days.

 

This game just scratches my nuts in the right places lol.

To each their own, for me it was rather disappointing as an AC game.

 

The open world is fun and well crafted and I appreciate that they put more effort into the side quests & Bayek was cool but the rest is just so lackluster.

 

The story is terribly written, they completely wasted the whole "origins" part and instead gave us a rehashed revenge story. The antagonists are the worst of the series, literally nothing memorable about them and they even managed to make Caesar boring (wtf).

I didn't care about any character apart from Bayek. Aya was obnoxious and very one note and I dont even remember the rest (When his friend died and he was sad, I was like who is this dude?).

 

Doesn't even come close to AC2 or BF, still the best games for me. Its worse than AC3 too since at least the latter feels like an AC game. AC:O is more like a generic adventure game that has more common with TW3 than AC

 

Why is Ubisoft still milking Origins? Ancient Egypt is the most boring setting for an Assassin's Creed ever, Bayek is as interesting as Connor's left thumb, the story is disappointing and messes the general lore of the series (The Order of the Anicents, really?), combat is disappointing and the graphics suck. Origins is the GTA V of the Assassin's Creed series. This makes Syndicate feel like a masterpiece.

 

Announce the next game, goddammit.

 

that is just your oppinion, and it seems to go against the majority of players, after Black flag they just gone downhill, at least they comeback with a great title

 

 

"We are concentrating at the moment on AC:O, for which we are going to launch a few other DLCs. So you will be amazed by what will come on AC:O. That's the only thing we can say now."

 

I'm still waiting for the comeback. AC:O definitely wasn't it, despite seeming that way at first.

[Journey_95]

About a year ago i said that Ubisoft puts out more quality than Rockstar Games.

 

And you see? Ubisoft released Assassin's Creed origins and they're gonna release more cool games. Rockstar is busy at GTAV ONLIne. - f*ck them.

 

 

Quality over quantity. While I'm disappointed that Rockstar has been lazy in the past few years they usually deliver much better games than Ubisoft. RDR2 alone if they really put effort into it (as it seems like) will be superior to most Ubisoft games.

Their games are usually lazy rehashes and incredibly generic with no real depth.

[Zello]

My only complaint about the story was that it felt too short. I wanted to see more of Caesar and Cleopatra. I'm also disappointed that Bayek didn't say Nothing is True everything is permitted instead it was said by the alien things when you get the Isu Armour.

Edited May 3, 2018 by Zello

[jpm1]

i found the Caesar Cleo bit short too. these two very charismatic historical characters were depicted as pure evil, and..??. i think there's room for a sequel, or a DLC for Mark Antony, Spartacus, and (infamous) Crassus. i see well myself freeding slaves, helping Spartacus to escape, and beating hard Crassus bottom

 

@ Journey_95: nice thread. now i have to find myself an insurance for the lost time i spent on the forums

Edited May 3, 2018 by jpm1

[K0ol-G-R4P]

i found the Caesar Cleo bit short too. these two very charismatic historical characters were depicted as pure evil, and..??. i think there's room for a sequel, or a DLC for Mark Antony, Spartacus, and (infamous) Crassus. i see well myself freeding slaves, helping Spartacus to escape, and beating hard Crassus bottom

 

@ Journey_95: nice thread. now i have to find myself an insurance for the lost time i spent on the forums

Unfortunately there is no room for Spartacus which is a big lost opportunity IMO.

 

The Spartacus slave rebellion (Third Seville War) happened in 73 bc

 

This game takes place 25-30 years later.

[jpm1]

 

i found the Caesar Cleo bit short too. these two very charismatic historical characters were depicted as pure evil, and..??. i think there's room for a sequel, or a DLC for Mark Antony, Spartacus, and (infamous) Crassus. i see well myself freeding slaves, helping Spartacus to escape, and beating hard Crassus bottom

 

@ Journey_95: nice thread. now i have to find myself an insurance for the lost time i spent on the forums

Unfortunately there is no room for Spartacus which is a big lost opportunity IMO.

 

The Spartacus slave rebellion (Third Seville War) happened in 73 bc

 

This game takes place 25-30 years later.

 

you know, if there's something i have learnt from video games, or internet, it's that human creativity has no limit. if you want to find a good plot, you will find. for example Bayek father/mother could have been a slave. if you search, you find

Edited May 19, 2018 by jpm1

[Typhus]

I'm very interested in what the next game will be about, a lot of people have wanted a World War 2 game for some time, but I am not sure how that would work. For myself, I always wanted an AC game set during the English Civil War. And, as the story progresses, and the Puritans gain more power, the game world slowly drains of all colour, and all music slowly gets removed.

[Doctor Holliday]

Can't deny that a Civil War setting would be interesting, but I feel like the closer that Assassin's Creed gets to modern firearms, the worse the gameplay becomes. I already felt like they were pushing the envelope too far in Assasins's Creed Syndicate. There are still innumerable civilizations and periods of ancient history to explore with intensely rich stories to tell and potential links to great conspiracy theories about mankind and the solar system.

 

We need a South American Assassin's Creed.

The Aztecs and the Mayans would be an incredible feature for an AC game because all the ingredients are there; a vibrant culture, tribal warfare, human sacrifice, reverence for astronomy, mysterious religious beliefs, and interactions with Europeans. You still get to have your cross-over English-speaking storyline with the Spanish Conquistadors and French and Dutch explorers who came looking for the lost 'Cities of Gold' and went to war with the locals.

 

It was cool exploring the pyramids in Origins.

But what I really want to do is scale the great and bloody steps of Tenochitlan to offer the human hearts of my fallen enemies to the sun god!

 

 

 

[Typhus]

Yes! That would be amazing to see! The Aztec cities, with such gold and precious stones, would be incredible to see rendered in modern graphics. And if it delved into the Spanish conquest, there's so much they could do - especially considering the various factions who aided the Spanish and thought the fall of the Aztecs would better their lot.

Though I must confess I would like it to be more centred around Aztec polytheism, and completely do away with the Templar storyline. It's the weakest part of the series, and makes history seem less important by relating these great figures back to this awful, lazy plot.

[Zello]

The war of 1812 could work and we could see an older Connor.

[jpm1]

yeah, the aztecs mysteries could definitely be something cool. but as i already said, for me the perfect AC is black flag with ACO engine

[rtie]

I know it was covered in the first Ass Creed but I'd love more about the Hashashin, historically; the original assassin sect. But rather than a focus on the crusades, or general war, the subject for nearly every release, a plot quagmired in political intrigue.

Also there should be hash.

[thatstupidbug]

I know it was covered in the first Ass Creed but I'd love more about the Hashashin, historically; the original assassin sect. But rather than a focus on the crusades, or general war, the subject for nearly every release, a plot quagmired in political intrigue.

 

Also there should be hash.

about reusing settings... Ancient Rome would have been great, but unfortunately they already "wasted" Rome in brotherhood (the city is great but is already in ruins... the Rome of the Caesars would have been a grandiose setting)

[K0ol-G-R4P]

I think the Greece rumors are true and I like it.

 

Parts of Greece were reportedly supposed to be in ACO but cut for whatever reason. They wouldn't just scrap that development plus a year turnaround means the game was already in development. Greece during the Byzantine era would be quite nice to explore. The Byzantine era was quite chaotic especially in Constantinople where you seemingly had an assassination every month. Plus they can bring back naval combat and piracy, the Cyclades were known for being pirate havens. Only negative I feel is the overall look of the game will be Cyrene but on a more grander scale. Meaning it may feel more like an expansion pack than a new game.

[jpm1]

Greece you mean antiquity Greece. man that would be great. i lived half of my life on the Mediterranean border. and i have a kind of fascination for that sea, and all the peoples/cultures related to it

Edited May 20, 2018 by jpm1

[K0ol-G-R4P]

Greece you mean antiquity Greece. man that would be great. i lived half of my life on the Mediterranean border. and i have a kind of fascination for that sea, and all the peoples/cultures related to it

 

Antiquity makes more sense if they want to continue with Bayek and Amunet (which they will so you'll get your wish).

 

The Byzantine era is more intriguing to me though and not that far off.

 

Like I said it was very chaotic time period and I like chaos in my games.

 

Regardless which period they choose, exploration and piracy in the Mediterranean with large scale naval combat will be great.

Edited May 20, 2018 by K0ol-G-R4P

[jpm1]

i just discovered a thing called V-sync 😆. it seems my rig can now handle it. ACO is incredibly immersive with that thing 🙂

[Zello]

On 2/5/2018 at 7:07 PM, Zello said:

I think they could set a game before Origins if it's a Templar origin story. Being that Origins was the origin of the Assasins or the Hidden ones the Templars or as they were called in the game Order of the Ancients were already formed. They could do a game set during the Persian wars with the Spartans.

Called it kinda though Odyssey isn't set in the Persian wars.

[rtie]

5 hours ago, Zello said:

Called it kinda though Odyssey isn't set in the Persian wars.

It isn't. It's set during the Peloponnesian War, 20 odd years after.  

[Mokrie Dela]

You know seeing this and fallout has made me look forward to rdr2 more. We give rockstar a lot of flack (the legitimacy of such complaints is debatable), but their games are never a rehash, or a departure from the series' styles. 

 

Origins, as great a game as it was, however was. And this new One? If you showed me it without any branding I'd think it was a new IP completely. I see no Assassins Creed-ness to it. To me the franchise has completely lost its identity. Gone are the moments where you use crowds to your advantage, hiding in plain sight, slipping behind guards and hidden-blading your target before slipping away. The iconic activation of the blades by your side before your strike, the acrobatic assassinations, the deep conspiracy storyline with engaging characters, of century old doomsday prophecies (actually my least favourite part but part of the identity nonetheless).  Now you're bit reliving memories but creating them. "Transforming into an RPG" ? Even they know they're desecrating the series. And it's a shame. The franchise has become just that - a cash cow and how better to get money but to reskin your previous game (arguably what they did with 2/brotherhood, but that worked) and release what looks like DLC to an already twisted 'spin off'

 

Perhaps that's how this game should be viewed - as a spin off to a spin off. It's not AC5 but like fallout 76, is an alternative spin off/side series. Kind of how Smallville is to Superman.  Not going to be a purchase from me but looking at it this way at least gives me context and hope for the future of the series.

[JaberDoe]

@Mokrie Dela that's what worried me about Origins.  Since it was called "Origins" I imagined it'd involve more backstory about Abstergo or the Templars/Assassin's thing. 

 

It also seems like after ACIII, they've been focusing less and less on the modern day story and more on the historical part.  With Syndicate basically just dropping hints about it.  

 

Thing is, since the first one, lots of people (and critics) complained about the modern story aspect; so I guess we only have ourselves to blame? 

 

Also, totally agree about it losing it's identity.  All the classic Assassin's Creed stuff aren't even advertised in Odyssey.  I don't even know how Syndicate was related to the Abstergo thing.

 

But maybe that's why they've got names like Syndicate, Origins, Odyssey which makes them spin-offs as you said (like how we had Revelations and Brotherhood after ACII).  Perhaps ACV would focus more on the story. 

[Mokrie Dela]

We can hope man. Ir9nicsllt the ezio spin offs were as assassins creedy as they could get. 

 

I was never a huge fan of the modern day stuff. But it was part of the design of the game. And it was intriguing. It kept me playing at times and I grew to love Desmond and Lucy and especially Shaun (his banter was top notch). The duel timeline concept was quite good and had potential. They just needed to improve it 

 

 

Oh and I absolutely LOVED the glyph puzzles from 2 and brotherhood. They really need to look at origins and 1,2/b/r and 3 and combine them. But yeah even if I did get it, please no more black flag water based stuff; leave that to skull and bones  (which is making my sit up....)(why can't they take this rpg idea and make it a new Ip like they did with BF's ocean warfare?

 

The good news is this has made me no longer hope for a splinter cell, which would likely become an online only 3rd person battle royal shooter in the dark...

[NeonDolphin]

I hope the rumour is true and AC2 Ezio games (with AC3 and Far Cry 3) are coming to GOG this year.

[Zello]

I dont care about For Honor but were those Japanese Assassins and Templars? Ubisoft out here teasing us.

Edited December 21, 2018 by KY Jello

[Shadowfennekin]

On 12/21/2018 at 1:42 PM, KY Jello said:

I dont care about For Honor but were those Japanese Assassins and Templars? Ubisoft out here teasing us.

I redeemed For Honor when Xbox gave it out the other month, I might just install it now solely to play that mode and nothing else lol

[Zello]

I wonder how the other games looked and how much stuff they cut.

Edited January 7, 2019 by Zello

[Commander S]

On 12/21/2018 at 6:42 PM, Zello said:

Spoiler

 

I dont care about For Honor but were those Japanese Assassins and Templars? Ubisoft out here teasing us.

 

Probably just Ubisoft grafting them on to the various For Honor factions - can't say for sure, since I've not seen more of how the event works (and ...I haven't got For Honor... ).

 

That, and they're clearly in the mood for impromptu crossovers at the moment - they dropped this one with Monster Hunter World a week ago, without any of the usual fanfare and buildup these things have had in the past (like the big announcement of the Witcher 3 collaboration, which isn't happening for months, yet):

 

 

 

 

It's quite cool, too - you complete a battle with two of the more demanding monsters in the game to earn special tickets, and then use those to craft one of two AC-themed items. One is a cosmetic reskin you can use to turn your hunter into Bayek (while keeping your specific armour build/stats underneath), while the other is a functional item: a cloak/hood/torso thing that resembles Ezio's outfit (but doesn't turn your hunter into Ezio, unlike the Bayek skin), and temporarily gives you increased movement speed, lets you sneak up on monsters undetected, and makes you do more damage when striking an unsuspecting monster.

 

I'm kinda amused by this one, considering 2018 was the year I finally got into both Monster Hunter and Assassin's Creed - so it's a curious coincidence Capcom and Ubisoft decided to smash the two together to close out the year...

[Shadowfennekin]

I really hope they don't forget Jacob. Evie and the Rooks are in the game, Bayek was and now Aya is.... I'd much rather have Jacob honestly, he's my one of favorite Assassins. Alexios, Edward, and Jacob...

[Commander S]

At the very least, I'm hoping that 3/Liberation Remastered get some decent legacy outfits - Rogue Remastered got an impressive amount of extra unlockables, including outfits from later ACs (Jacob, Bayek - even Aguilar from the movie), so it'd be nice to have, say, Evie/Aya/Kassandra outfits for Aveline, and Jacob/Bayek/Alexios outfits for Ratonhnhaké:ton.

 

Quite liked that with Syndicate, too - it didn't have every possible outfit (no Altair outfit for Jacob, for example), but you had a decent cross-section of past games, and unlocking Shao Jun's (awesome) outfit was a nice way to mark knocking out 100% completion (including all the Ubisoft Club challenges/badges):

 

[Creed Bratton]

Jacob is an idiot and Evie is seriously underrated.