Blitz Play Rant

[Lester-The-Molester]

I haven't seen people talk about this so I'll do it.

This mission, in my opinion, is the worst mission for a number of reasons, and no, it's not because you do it for the FIB and get no money, but rather the execution. This felt like a very poorly planned attack from who is supposed to be a talented bank robber. The whole plan felt rubbish and broke immersion. First of all, it was common sense that a Grupe Sechs truck would carry a panic button, so the most logical thing would have been to park a getaway car NEAR the place where you attack it. But ok, forget about that. How come the LSPD arrives in 10 seconds after you have taken the money? Such a quick response time is just unbelievable unless they had squad cars constantly near them in case of an attack.

As for the shootout itself, why defend the place from cops instead of making a run for it? They got overrun extremely fast and if it weren't for video game health, they had no chance of surviving.

Now the last thing, what was the point of torching the truck but leaving the tow truck? Which had Franklin's fingerprints all over the steering wheel.

Overall, it was a poorly-designed mission which for me achieved the rating of the worst mission in the game. It felt more like somebody tried to make a crappy replica of the scene from Heat. Any thoughts?

[How To Get Away with M]

Disagree completely.

It was one of the best designed Missions and the shootout is also a very good one as it makes full tactical use of the 3 player mechanic.

You purely rate the mission on realism which is not te right thing to do in a soap opera styled Grand Theft Auto game.

The mission felt authentic, even the quick response time is "covered" by dialouge.

 

The only problem I had with the mission in fact, was the burning of the car, not because Franklins fingertips were on the tow truck, this is not a f*cking detective game after all, but because burning the getaway vehicle has no real additional gameplay or cinematic value, maybe would have been cooler if all 3 met together and burned it down together slowly going away from the explosion.

Edited August 2, 2016 by How To Get Away with M

[TheTechPoTaToCHIP]

You hate this mission because it doesn't follow real world logic? God this is almost as bad as the person who bitched about the time rewinding during missions and I'm pretty sure he was a troll... well at least you actually play singleplayer so I'll give you some credit.

[gtaguy95]

Yeah this mission was bad. The starting cutscene gives a picture that the setups should be rushed when that's clearly not the case. Also the getaway vehicle thing is just POINTLESS

[Cheatz/Trickz]

It's just a crap shooting arena riding the Heatwave (geddit?). It is the prime example of how the switch mechanic does jacksh*t to change the game. What's worse is that the protags move back to their default positions as I switch through them!

[How To Get Away with M]

It's just a crap shooting arena riding the Heatwave (geddit?). It is the prime example of how the switch mechanic does jacksh*t to change the game. What's worse is that the protags move back to their default positions as I switch through them!

Exact opposite, this shows one of the strengths of the Switch mechanic, and the NPCs going back to their location is to encourage tactical switching instead of going rambo with a single person.

[Cheatz/Trickz]

Exact opposite, this shows one of the strengths of the Switch mechanic, and the NPCs going back to their location is to encourage tactical switching instead of going rambo with a single person.

Sure, shoot guys here, or shoot guys there, or from up there. Wow, so amazingly diverse! And like the entire game wasn't designed for you to go Rambo anyway?! You get every weapon and tonnes of ammo to carry at once. And what is tactical about them returning to their positions? Allowing the player to place them freely would be tactical.

Edited August 2, 2016 by Cheatz_N_Trickz

[Lester-The-Molester]

You hate this mission because it doesn't follow real world logic? God this is almost as bad as the person who bitched about the time rewinding during missions and I'm pretty sure he was a troll... well at least you actually play singleplayer so I'll give you some credit.

Well in the rest of the missions, the crew at least tries to come up with a solution to avoid engaging the police unless they have to or is part of the plan (Paleto Job, Bureau Raid Parachuting option, The Big One Loud Option). Meanwhile all the shooting you did in Blitz Play could've been avoided with some simple thinking. That's all. I just felt this mission deviated from the usual planning that is put into the rest of the heists. I don't see how it's on the same level of badness as that guy you mentioned.

[Cheatz/Trickz]

To be fair, it's noted in the cutscene by Michael that he hasn't got enough time to plan it cleanly. Even so, the way it happens is still far deadlier that it needed to be.

[Lester-The-Molester]

To be fair, it's noted in the cutscene by Michael that he hasn't got enough time to plan it cleanly. Even so, the way it happens is still far deadlier that it needed to be.

Exactly, and just like you stated, the character switch here is kinda pointless. You just shoot cops from different angles.

@The guy who made the first post

Its not about it being a detective game but the whole point of torching the vehicles is to get rid of the evidence, which is rendered pointless considering you still leave the tow truck with fingerprints all over the steering wheel.

[How To Get Away with M]

 

Exact opposite, this shows one of the strengths of the Switch mechanic, and the NPCs going back to their location is to encourage tactical switching instead of going rambo with a single person.

Sure, shoot guys here, or shoot guys there, or from up there. Wow, so amazingly diverse! And like the entire game wasn't designed for you to go Rambo anyway?! You get every weapon and tonnes of ammo to carry at once. And what is tactical about them returning to their positions? Allowing the player to place them freely would be tactical.

It isn't tactical on a Tactical shooter level.

But it adds a small tactical element as it allows people to change the angle they are shooting from.

[wapster]

If anything, They should have put you in a car chase rather than a frankly pointless and long shootout that doesn't make much tactical sense; they should have grabbed the loot and escaped long before the first responders got there.

[gtaguy95]

If anything, They should have put you in a car chase rather than a frankly pointless and long shootout that doesn't make much tactical sense; they should have grabbed the loot and escaped long before the first responders got there.

I can already see the dialogue in the car chase:

 

Michael: oh sh*t, it's the merryweather, they're on to us!

Franklin: eh, hold up dog, imma take care of em!

 

After which follows an anticlimatic and scripted chase sequence where franklin shouts random crap, a couple of jeeps blow up, and after which trevor says an ambiguous one-liner referring to incest just so that we don't forget that he's crazy

[ULPaperContact]

This mission is complete sh*t. And I only ever used the character switching when the game forced me to, when I could I used Michael.

[Pedinhuh]

It was a cool mission and Michael himself said it he couldn't think the plan straight given at how they didn't had time to prepare, but yes, blowing up the trash truck and NOT blowing the Tow-Truck was a gapping plothole! I even tried to blow it up myself but the tow-truck is Indestructible(just why is it like that anyway? That truck wasn't important anyway, we could have used it as a hazard to kill plenty of cops at once).

I would have preferred a better getaway with the three idiots in a four seater getaway vehicle, would have been MUCH better than making Trevor disappear out of nowhere and Michael teleport to Tongva Valley in that sh*tty red car.

Plus, what was the point of that heist anyway? I mean, besides paying an homenage to Heat.
Get more money to the FIB and not being paid again?
f*cking wack...

[universetwisters]

>this mission is to encourage switching characters

>you can play GTA any way you like

 

You can't have both.

[DetectivePhelps]

I don't see the big, big problem here. It's GTA for heavens sake. I liked it since I enjoy shooting sh! T ups. lol.

[thc_404]

 

To be fair, it's noted in the cutscene by Michael that he hasn't got enough time to plan it cleanly. Even so, the way it happens is still far deadlier that it needed to be.

Exactly, and just like you stated, the character switch here is kinda pointless. You just shoot cops from different angles.

@The guy who made the first post

Its not about it being a detective game but the whole point of torching the vehicles is to get rid of the evidence, which is rendered pointless considering you still leave the tow truck with fingerprints all over the steering wheel.

 

NVM, just checked. Indeed he leaves prints.

Edited August 3, 2016 by thc_404

[RogerWho]

True, but it made a badass trailer

 

I don't think much was considered beyond that.

[ATP2555]

I agree.

 

You hate this mission because it doesn't follow real world logic? God this is almost as bad as the person who bitched about the time rewinding during missions and I'm pretty sure he was a troll... well at least you actually play singleplayer so I'll give you some credit.

You're missing the point.

 

I don't see the big, big problem here. It's GTA for heavens sake. I liked it since I enjoy shooting sh! T ups. lol.

You're in the wrong topic.

 

It was a cool mission and Michael himself said it he couldn't think the plan straight given at how they didn't had time to prepare, but yes, blowing up the trash truck and NOT blowing the Tow-Truck was a gapping plothole! I even tried to blow it up myself but the tow-truck is Indestructible(just why is it like that anyway? That truck wasn't important anyway, we could have used it as a hazard to kill plenty of cops at once).

I would have preferred a better getaway with the three idiots in a four seater getaway vehicle, would have been MUCH better than making Trevor disappear out of nowhere and Michael teleport to Tongva Valley in that sh*tty red car.

Plus, what was the point of that heist anyway? I mean, besides paying an homenage to Heat.
Get more money to the FIB and not being paid again?
f*cking wack...

Yeah, this mission looks like it was made for the COD kids. I don't know why then even bothered to stay behind and fight the cops when they could've hightailed it out of there. Also, having an army of cops and SWAT respond to ONE armored truck is rather absurd.

 

By the way, why is Michael approaching Devon's house coming from the opposite direction of the city?

[DERGaming]

I don't think Micheal gave a sh*t about it becuase he didn't want to get too much into it becuase it was for the F.I.B and he didn't want to get too much into it and plus Lester usually does all the planning I think this is the only Heist where Lester doesn't plan it

Edited August 5, 2016 by DERGaming

[.Ryan.]

It's quite funny how this has the most amount of preparation missions yet it honestly feels like a prolonged armoured truck robbery you could simply do in free roam than a real heist.

[PhillBellic]

It's quite funny how this has the most amount of preparation missions yet it honestly feels like a prolonged armoured truck robbery you could simply do in free roam than a real heist.

And no matter what happens, you are screwed out of your Payment.

[Payne Killer]

It's quite funny how this has the most amount of preparation missions yet it honestly feels like a prolonged armoured truck robbery you could simply do in free roam than a real heist.

But the truck doesn't flip like it does in the mission. Haha

[How To Get Away with M]

I agree.

 

You hate this mission because it doesn't follow real world logic? God this is almost as bad as the person who bitched about the time rewinding during missions and I'm pretty sure he was a troll... well at least you actually play singleplayer so I'll give you some credit.

You're missing the point.

 

I don't see the big, big problem here. It's GTA for heavens sake. I liked it since I enjoy shooting sh! T ups. lol.

You're in the wrong topic.

 

It was a cool mission and Michael himself said it he couldn't think the plan straight given at how they didn't had time to prepare, but yes, blowing up the trash truck and NOT blowing the Tow-Truck was a gapping plothole! I even tried to blow it up myself but the tow-truck is Indestructible(just why is it like that anyway? That truck wasn't important anyway, we could have used it as a hazard to kill plenty of cops at once).

 

I would have preferred a better getaway with the three idiots in a four seater getaway vehicle, would have been MUCH better than making Trevor disappear out of nowhere and Michael teleport to Tongva Valley in that sh*tty red car.

 

Plus, what was the point of that heist anyway? I mean, besides paying an homenage to Heat.

Get more money to the FIB and not being paid again?

f*cking wack...

Yeah, this mission looks like it was made for the COD kids. I don't know why then even bothered to stay behind and fight the cops when they could've hightailed it out of there. Also, having an army of cops and SWAT respond to ONE armored truck is rather absurd.

 

By the way, why is Michael approaching Devon's house coming from the opposite direction of the city?

WHAT!?

How?!

Just...."Cod kids"?

Is that supposed to be an argument?

 

"IV was made to apeal to the COD kids, I don't know why they even bothered to produce it".

 

God damn, it is called well made mission design, the shootout OF COURSE is not necessary but with that kind of thinking NOTHING you do in the Story is necessery in any GTA game, as you could allways have ran away etc.

The Mission simply sets up a varied shootout which is well integrated into the 3 charactar mechanic.

 

Literally the only design flaw the mission has is the disposal of the getaway vehicle.

[ATP2555]

 

I agree.

 

You hate this mission because it doesn't follow real world logic? God this is almost as bad as the person who bitched about the time rewinding during missions and I'm pretty sure he was a troll... well at least you actually play singleplayer so I'll give you some credit.

You're missing the point.

 

I don't see the big, big problem here. It's GTA for heavens sake. I liked it since I enjoy shooting sh! T ups. lol.

You're in the wrong topic.

 

It was a cool mission and Michael himself said it he couldn't think the plan straight given at how they didn't had time to prepare, but yes, blowing up the trash truck and NOT blowing the Tow-Truck was a gapping plothole! I even tried to blow it up myself but the tow-truck is Indestructible(just why is it like that anyway? That truck wasn't important anyway, we could have used it as a hazard to kill plenty of cops at once).

 

I would have preferred a better getaway with the three idiots in a four seater getaway vehicle, would have been MUCH better than making Trevor disappear out of nowhere and Michael teleport to Tongva Valley in that sh*tty red car.

 

Plus, what was the point of that heist anyway? I mean, besides paying an homenage to Heat.

Get more money to the FIB and not being paid again?

f*cking wack...

Yeah, this mission looks like it was made for the COD kids. I don't know why then even bothered to stay behind and fight the cops when they could've hightailed it out of there. Also, having an army of cops and SWAT respond to ONE armored truck is rather absurd.

 

By the way, why is Michael approaching Devon's house coming from the opposite direction of the city?

WHAT!?

How?!

Just...."Cod kids"?

Is that supposed to be an argument?

 

"IV was made to apeal to the COD kids, I don't know why they even bothered to produce it".

No, it's a fact. Also, I think you mean V.

 

 

 

I agree.

 

You hate this mission because it doesn't follow real world logic? God this is almost as bad as the person who bitched about the time rewinding during missions and I'm pretty sure he was a troll... well at least you actually play singleplayer so I'll give you some credit.

You're missing the point.

 

I don't see the big, big problem here. It's GTA for heavens sake. I liked it since I enjoy shooting sh! T ups. lol.

You're in the wrong topic.

 

It was a cool mission and Michael himself said it he couldn't think the plan straight given at how they didn't had time to prepare, but yes, blowing up the trash truck and NOT blowing the Tow-Truck was a gapping plothole! I even tried to blow it up myself but the tow-truck is Indestructible(just why is it like that anyway? That truck wasn't important anyway, we could have used it as a hazard to kill plenty of cops at once).

 

I would have preferred a better getaway with the three idiots in a four seater getaway vehicle, would have been MUCH better than making Trevor disappear out of nowhere and Michael teleport to Tongva Valley in that sh*tty red car.

 

Plus, what was the point of that heist anyway? I mean, besides paying an homenage to Heat.

Get more money to the FIB and not being paid again?

f*cking wack...

Yeah, this mission looks like it was made for the COD kids. I don't know why then even bothered to stay behind and fight the cops when they could've hightailed it out of there. Also, having an army of cops and SWAT respond to ONE armored truck is rather absurd.

 

By the way, why is Michael approaching Devon's house coming from the opposite direction of the city?

 

God damn, it is called well made mission design, the shootout OF COURSE is not necessary but with that kind of thinking NOTHING you do in the Story is necessery in any GTA game, as you could allways have ran away etc.

The Mission simply sets up a varied shootout which is well integrated into the 3 charactar mechanic.

 

Literally the only design flaw the mission has is the disposal of the getaway vehicle.

 

Why did Niko and the McRearys get into a shootout with the cops? Why did CJ go into the Jefferson Motel to save his brother from SWAT? Because they couldn't run away!

 

Also, the trash truck wasn't the getaway vehicle.

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

 

I agree.

 

You hate this mission because it doesn't follow real world logic? God this is almost as bad as the person who bitched about the time rewinding during missions and I'm pretty sure he was a troll... well at least you actually play singleplayer so I'll give you some credit.

You're missing the point.

 

I don't see the big, big problem here. It's GTA for heavens sake. I liked it since I enjoy shooting sh! T ups. lol.

You're in the wrong topic.

 

It was a cool mission and Michael himself said it he couldn't think the plan straight given at how they didn't had time to prepare, but yes, blowing up the trash truck and NOT blowing the Tow-Truck was a gapping plothole! I even tried to blow it up myself but the tow-truck is Indestructible(just why is it like that anyway? That truck wasn't important anyway, we could have used it as a hazard to kill plenty of cops at once).

 

I would have preferred a better getaway with the three idiots in a four seater getaway vehicle, would have been MUCH better than making Trevor disappear out of nowhere and Michael teleport to Tongva Valley in that sh*tty red car.

 

Plus, what was the point of that heist anyway? I mean, besides paying an homenage to Heat.

Get more money to the FIB and not being paid again?

f*cking wack...

Yeah, this mission looks like it was made for the COD kids. I don't know why then even bothered to stay behind and fight the cops when they could've hightailed it out of there. Also, having an army of cops and SWAT respond to ONE armored truck is rather absurd.

 

By the way, why is Michael approaching Devon's house coming from the opposite direction of the city?

 

God damn, it is called well made mission design, the shootout OF COURSE is not necessary but with that kind of thinking NOTHING you do in the Story is necessery in any GTA game, as you could allways have ran away etc.

The Mission simply sets up a varied shootout which is well integrated into the 3 charactar mechanic.

 

Literally the only design flaw the mission has is the disposal of the getaway vehicle.

 

You do realize how to get away with m can't reply to what you just said right ? Stop qouting banned accounts already and move on ok.

[Lester-The-Molester]

Why was he banned?

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

Why was he banned?

I don't know I guess you have to ask a moderator. Only they can see the reason why people are banned.

[YetAnotherGTAFan]

You hate this mission because it doesn't follow real world logic? God this is almost as bad as the person who bitched about the time rewinding during missions and I'm pretty sure he was a troll... well at least you actually play singleplayer so I'll give you some credit.

 

I assume you are talking about me.

 

I wasn't a troll. It's impossible to roleplay if the protagonist witnesses time going backwards. I don't know why Rockstar did this, there is literally no need for it. If it was accidental, it should be fixed.

 

And if there if one thing I love to do, it's roleplay. It is a bit more annoying than you'd imagine, because if I looked at my cell and saw time had gone backwards I'd freak. It's gotten to the point where it has essentially ruined my gaming experience, the unrealism just reminds me it's a stupid game and that's a bit depressing when the only pasttime you've really got is gaming.

 

You hate this mission because it doesn't follow real world logic? God this is almost as bad as the person who bitched about the time rewinding during missions and I'm pretty sure he was a troll... well at least you actually play singleplayer so I'll give you some credit.

 

I don't see how it's on the same level of badness as that guy you mentioned.

Brilliant, another one.