Svip Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Crazy. Seemingly out of the blue but it's been right under the surface for a while. Erdogan's not exactly uniformly liked. Earlier today, The Times reported that Erdogan has signed a law giving military officials immunity. This suggests to me that Erdogan and the government knew that a military coup was underway, and tried to pre-emptive it. This incident was long planned. They clearly just did not know who, where or when it was going to go down. Edited July 15, 2016 by Svip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trip Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Maybe they'll rename the capitol back to Constantinople. Sorry for the spam. Just trying to add some levity to a crazy world. Sussus Amongus, Tacymist, Caysle and 4 others 7 My crappy games at MyCrappyGames.com Free copy of Save The Puppies and Kittens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 With the fall of the sultan I hope bosnia will finally go on a better path, his ties with izetbegovic weren't exactly helping bosnia develop into a proper european nation acmilano 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acmilano Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/754066725776289793 Already victims why sad for a guy who screams allahuakbar Becouse after him there could be thousends of other,on both sides,and a lot of civilians. And just becouse he yelled allahuakbar doesn't mean that he was a radical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaythamKenway Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Unconfirmed reports of explosions at TRT, usage of tear gas on the citizens and shooting near the presidential complex in Ankara. Oh boy. The big question right now is how united is the military. If there are splinter factions backing the government. And it's unclear what really happened with the chief of the general staff. First, he was supposed to be a hostage, then a leader of the coup. This is a mess. Platypus Chairlines 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/754066725776289793 Already victims why sad for a guy who screams allahuakbar Becouse after him there could be thousends of other,on both sides,and a lot of civilians.And just becouse he yelled allahuakbar doesn't mean that he was a radical. But him running towards soldiers because he was pro-Erdogan indicates that he was sort of radical. sreyazsec, Caysle and Abel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussus Amongus Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Edited April 7, 2020 by Pastry ♡mercy♡, Vaulttec, M0rk and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acmilano Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 With the fall of the sultan I hope bosnia will finally go on a better path, his ties with izetbegovic weren't exactly helping bosnia develop into a proper european nation That I actually agree. Izetbegovic and SDA are sucking Bosnia dry for too much,and Erdogan did helped him to stay in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caysle Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/754066725776289793 Already victims why sad for a guy who screams allahuakbar Becouse after him there could be thousends of other,on both sides,and a lot of civilians. And just becouse he yelled allahuakbar doesn't mean that he was a radical. what do you expect from a voter of ISIS-supporter political party? of course he was radical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acmilano Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 https://twitter.com/Souria4Syrians/status/754066725776289793 Already victims why sad for a guy who screams allahuakbar Becouse after him there could be thousends of other,on both sides,and a lot of civilians. And just becouse he yelled allahuakbar doesn't mean that he was a radical. what do you expect from a voter of ISIS-supporter political party? of course he was radical Hm that is possible.Now he's just a dead man. But lot of other people could die now if continues,radical and moderate. And in no way I would support someone like Erdogan. In fact it is his personal fault for calling civilians against army, knowing that civilians don't have chance against trained soldiers,and sacrificing them anyway. Sussus Amongus, Platypus Chairlines and Caysle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Erdogan appears to be thinking it is Gülentists that are behind this. AKP and the Gülentists broke Kemalist power together back when they were buddies. But now Gülen is in exile in Pennsylvania and has apparently been working on forming an uprising against Erdogan. But then secularism would not be such a big motivator if it is Gülentists, which discounts their early statement suggesting it was. Still, difficult to say at this stage. Some say it is Gülentists (Erdogan is). Some say it is Kemalists. Some suggest it an AKP play for more power. People are chanting for the party in the streets on top of tanks. Edited July 15, 2016 by Svip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saggy Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Sooo another American idiot here... Won't this make Turkey a HUGE target for ISIS? I mean more so than before, because now there's a large Muslim base that's been called to action that might be sympathetic toward ISIS? Isn't this the type of instability they exploit? It's practically inviting insurgency. QUOTE (K^2) ...not only is it legal for you to go around with a concealed penis, it requires absolutely no registration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Won't this make Turkey a HUGE target for ISIS? I mean more so than before, because now there's a large Muslim base that's been called to action that might be sympathetic toward ISIS? Isn't this the type of instability they exploit? It's practically inviting insurgency. ISIS is not actually doing that well. They definitely don't have the resources to take on Turkey, even a weakened Turkey. Also, regardless of who wins, Turkey still has a large military force. It is clearly evident at this point that military is not united behind this coup. Several commanders have been on television condemning the coup. It is not entirely certain the coup will succeed at this stage. Reports of tanks redrawing are also coming in. Edited July 15, 2016 by Svip Abel. and Sussus Amongus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acmilano Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Gunbattle in presidential pallace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svip Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Police are arresting soldiers that attempted the coup. Pro-Erdogan fighter shot down a pro-coup helicopter over Ankara. I believe this coup attempt will fail. To moderators: Please add the word 'attempt' after 'coup d'état' in the title. Kirsty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirsty Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Hope everyone stays safe out there, it's going to get grimmer and grimmer by the looks of things, people apparently protesting in an airport now. One my friends who I knew in college who moved out there with her baby has managed to post on Facebook that they are fine and have just been told to stay indoors, so social media perhaps is only blocked in the capital or major cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caysle Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The government who has violated all the aspects of a democracy now calls citizens to streets to retain the "democracy". Pathetic. Abel., Fonz, Sunrise Driver and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acmilano Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Livestream. Still look chaotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Won't this make Turkey a HUGE target for ISIS? I mean more so than before, because now there's a large Muslim base that's been called to action that might be sympathetic toward ISIS? Isn't this the type of instability they exploit? It's practically inviting insurgency. ISIS is not actually doing that well. They definitely don't have the resources to take on Turkey, even a weakened Turkey. Also, regardless of who wins, Turkey still has a large military force.Turkey is also a NATO member, IS definitely wouldn't achieve anything there Edited July 15, 2016 by dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caysle Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 National Assembly of Turkey is bombed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raavi Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Well this was a flash in the pan. Absolutely incredible how people can still defend that semi-dictatorial demagogue piece of filth that is Erdogan. "Democratically elected leader" give me a f*cking break. Skeever, Carbonox, frapplatte and 3 others 6 – overeducated wonk who fetishises compromise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonox Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Well this was a flash in the pan. Absolutely incredible how people can still defend that semi-dictatorial demagogue piece of filth that is Erdogan. "Democratically elected leader" give me a f*cking break. Sadly I feel that if the coup fails, the ignorant world will soon celebrate the "democratically elected" goat-f*cker getting to stay in power, the way he's been regressing the country notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) Absolutely incredible how people can still defend that semi-dictatorial demagogue piece of filth that is Erdogan. "Democratically elected leader" give me a f*cking break. I doubt things will get better under military dictatorship though. It's between the best of several evils. In Egypt it was the same story. Having a Muslim Brotherhood leader is not that great, but it is what the people wanted. The military dictatorship though is just far worse than the Muslim Brotherhood even. I wonder how it will turn out in Turkey. It seems like the entire region is increasingly destabilizing and Turkey is just another country of that fate. I never expected this for Turkey. Sadly I feel that if the coup fails, the ignorant world will soon celebrate the "democratically elected" goat-f*cker getting to stay in power, the way he's been regressing the country notwithstanding If the coup fails Erdogan will use it as a justification to turn even more dictatorial and throw everyone who opposes him in jail. The coup is a lose lose scenario. Or we'll get a more dictatorial Erdogan, or a military dictatorship. Edited July 16, 2016 by Eutyphro make total destroy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frapplatte Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I lived in Turkey for 6 months, visited the country for over 6 years. A lot of people don't love Erdogan, Most people love Ataturk. Let's see what happens. Police are arresting soldiers that attempted the coup. Pro-Erdogan fighter shot down a pro-coup helicopter over Ankara.I believe this coup attempt will fail.To moderators: Please add the word 'attempt' after 'coup d'état' in the title. You and your liberal BS. Main TV station shut down, Parliament bombed Capital City is locked down Most populated city is in chaos President in hiding. Successful coup, but a better question instead of forcing 'attempted' is how long the coup will last for CheesepuffScott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) Sadly I feel that if the coup fails, the ignorant world will soon celebrate the "democratically elected" goat-f*cker getting to stay in power, the way he's been regressing the country notwithstanding.I don't really think the world leaders hold him in high regard. Sure he has support from the fundamental east, but he was reportedly rejected asylum and a request to land in Germany and UK. Europe as a whole doesnt really like him because of his extortion politics with the migration crisis and EU membership, and he shot down a Russian plane. The only surprise here is Obama. Sadly under current conditions a military dictatorship is the best scenario to quell any radical movements which might spawn in his hypothetical fall Edited July 16, 2016 by dice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunrise Driver Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 US President Barack Obama has urged all parties in Turkey to "support the democratically-elected government of Turkey, show restraint, and avoid any violence or bloodshed", the White House says. Apparently Obama forgot to read Turkish constitution before speaking on a matter. I hope Turkish army overthrows that government. Caysle, Sussus Amongus and Skeever 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caysle Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Guardians of our "democracy". f*ck you too Erdogan Platypus Chairlines and Sunrise Driver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTA_stu Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 As much as I dislike Erdogan and would prefer a secular Western Turkey, he is the democratically elected president. If you believe in democracy you should condemn the coup. Sometimes people will vote for an authoritarian Islamist, it's not always the choice you want. That isn't the way it works. Eutyphro and CheesepuffScott 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not A Nice Person Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 This was stemming for awhile, It's not too surprising to see it happen, but I wonder what'll happen after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutyphro Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 I'm following the events and I have a strong suspicion the coup attempt is going to fail due to a lack of popular support for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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