Maxxi Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Interesting, so this spoiler is gltched? Gonna try it out. The spoiler itself is not glitched, however you can perform a glitch to remove it from the car. Here is a screenshot showing it removed from the car: Arrows to Athens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) I apologise if this is considered off-topic, but does removing the spoiler from the ERT1 add traction like a spoiler does or not? It does, the logic being that anything other than stock spoiler improves traction. The problem with this answer is that glitching the spoiler off isn't changing the stock spoiler, because this is considered a body style. So glitching it off does not add or remove any traction bonuses, as it still is technically a stock spoiler. There is a remove spoiler option for the ERT1; there's no glitching involved. The Tyrus and the RE-7B, however, do not have the remove spoiler option, which sucks. We aren't speaking of the Emperor though. We are speaking of the RE-7B. It is clearly visualized in the stats of the Emperor, and there is clearly an option to remove the spoiler on the Emperor. On the RE-7B, there is no option, and no stat change when performing the glitch (visually). Due to this it is safe to assume that removing the spoiler via glitch has no effect on the traction of the car versus the stock spoiler that comes with the purchase. This type of glitch is what is known to the older players (and forum goers) as a body style mod, which does not change the performance of the vehicle. A good example of a similar instance is the Elegy RH8, which has a body style with a stock spoiler, and a body style with no spoiler at all. It performs exactly the same, whether the stock spoiler is there or not, because it is entirely visual. I'm aware of that, but I asked whether the remove spoiler option for the ERT1 adds traction like an after market spoiler or not. I wasn't talking about the Tyrus or the RE-7B, but thanks for the additional info, though. Edited July 13, 2016 by Arrows to Athens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxi Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I apologise if this is considered off-topic, but does removing the spoiler from the ERT1 add traction like a spoiler does or not? It does, the logic being that anything other than stock spoiler improves traction. The problem with this answer is that glitching the spoiler off isn't changing the stock spoiler, because this is considered a body style. So glitching it off does not add or remove any traction bonuses, as it still is technically a stock spoiler. There is a remove spoiler option for the ERT1; there's no glitching involved. The Tyrus and the RE-7B, however, do not have the remove spoiler option, which sucks. We aren't speaking of the Emperor though. We are speaking of the RE-7B. It is clearly visualized in the stats of the Emperor, and there is clearly an option to remove the spoiler on the Emperor. On the RE-7B, there is no option, and no stat change when performing the glitch (visually). Due to this it is safe to assume that removing the spoiler via glitch has no effect on the traction of the car versus the stock spoiler that comes with the purchase. This type of glitch is what is known to the older players (and forum goers) as a body style mod, which does not change the performance of the vehicle. A good example of a similar instance is the Elegy RH8, which has a body style with a stock spoiler, and a body style with no spoiler at all. It performs exactly the same, whether the stock spoiler is there or not, because it is entirely visual. I'm aware of that, but I asked whether the remove spoiler option for the ERT1 adds traction like an after market spoiler or not. I wasn't talking about the Tyrus or the RE-7B, but thanks for the additional info, though. Ahh, my misunderstanding. Yes, for some odd reason removing the spoiler on the Emperor does increase the traction, simply because it is a spoiler option. Rockstar logic, I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) I apologise if this is considered off-topic, but does removing the spoiler from the ERT1 add traction like a spoiler does or not? It does, the logic being that anything other than stock spoiler improves traction. The problem with this answer is that glitching the spoiler off isn't changing the stock spoiler, because this is considered a body style. So glitching it off does not add or remove any traction bonuses, as it still is technically a stock spoiler. There is a remove spoiler option for the ERT1; there's no glitching involved. The Tyrus and the RE-7B, however, do not have the remove spoiler option, which sucks. We aren't speaking of the Emperor though. We are speaking of the RE-7B. It is clearly visualized in the stats of the Emperor, and there is clearly an option to remove the spoiler on the Emperor. On the RE-7B, there is no option, and no stat change when performing the glitch (visually). Due to this it is safe to assume that removing the spoiler via glitch has no effect on the traction of the car versus the stock spoiler that comes with the purchase. This type of glitch is what is known to the older players (and forum goers) as a body style mod, which does not change the performance of the vehicle. A good example of a similar instance is the Elegy RH8, which has a body style with a stock spoiler, and a body style with no spoiler at all. It performs exactly the same, whether the stock spoiler is there or not, because it is entirely visual. I'm aware of that, but I asked whether the remove spoiler option for the ERT1 adds traction like an after market spoiler or not. I wasn't talking about the Tyrus or the RE-7B, but thanks for the additional info, though. Ahh, my misunderstanding. Yes, for some odd reason removing the spoiler on the Emperor does increase the traction, simply because it is a spoiler option. Rockstar logic, I guess Yes, it's Rockstar logic, but at the same time, it's a good thing. I mean, I have the benefit of having a better looking car, since I think it looks better without a spoiler, and I have the benefit of it having more traction. As for removing the spoiler on the Tyrus and the RE-7B, the method works like the one with the Buffalo's bumpers and skirts, right? Edited July 13, 2016 by Arrows to Athens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGrandis Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 The placebo is real in this one. Probably for the T20 spoiler, likely the same placebo that people had when they though wheels actually affected anything, just one of those things i guess. RE-7B though sounds different however, since you can actually track speed ingame.Yep, everything is placebo when you don't understand how it works or not, just like the spoiler on the T20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerZ0neX Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Isn't it a glitch that happened a while ago with some cars like the Slamvan, Banshee 900R,etc? On the Banshee 900R, that glitch became a feature as said by R* when a lot of players started to complain how awfully slow the 900R was for it's price.Yep, instead of actually fixing the car's performance they actually half-assed and labeled the suspension glitch as a feature for the 900R as well as the 811, despite having a hard-on for patching anything that uses a suspension speed to its advantage. Arrows to Athens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Isn't it a glitch that happened a while ago with some cars like the Slamvan, Banshee 900R,etc? On the Banshee 900R, that glitch became a feature as said by R* when a lot of players started to complain how awfully slow the 900R was for it's price.Yep, instead of actually fixing the car's performance they actually half-assed and labeled the suspension glitch as a feature for the 900R as well as the 811, despite having a hard-on for patching anything that uses a suspension speed to its advantage. Laziness at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Isn't it a glitch that happened a while ago with some cars like the Slamvan, Banshee 900R,etc? On the Banshee 900R, that glitch became a feature as said by R* when a lot of players started to complain how awfully slow the 900R was for it's price.Yep, instead of actually fixing the car's performance they actually half-assed and labeled the suspension glitch as a feature for the 900R as well as the 811, despite having a hard-on for patching anything that uses a suspension speed to its advantage. No love for the Slamvan Custom...? Tut, tut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarimboHanky Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 just give it a few days and they would roll out a stealth hotfix... remember the banshee and super fast slamvan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xInfamousRYANx Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) The 7B is fast yes. It becomes faster with Stock Tires and Custom spoiler because the suspension is broken and it gets curb boosts. 7B Tyre type top speed / CCGP Times testing* Stock tyres top speed: 146.8mph CCGP time: 59.892s Tuners: 127.7 CCGP time: 57.756 Offroads: 122.6 CCGP time: 57.888 Highends: 130.0 CCGP time: 58.358 SUV: 129.2 CCGP time: 58.356 Courtesy of NoDo PS4 testing Edited July 14, 2016 by xInfamousRYANx Gridl0k, Zoop_Leroy, Tofu86_ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorskiegangsta Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Since when have the spoilers increased top speed? Is it exclusive to the RE7B? They don"t. This is apparently a suspension boost glitch (like with the Slamvan custom) but only works when combining the carbon spoiler with stock wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato_hater Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I apologise if this is considered off-topic, but does removing the spoiler from the ERT1 add traction like a spoiler does or not? It does, the logic being that anything other than stock spoiler improves traction. The problem with this answer is that glitching the spoiler off isn't changing the stock spoiler, because this is considered a body style. So glitching it off does not add or remove any traction bonuses, as it still is technically a stock spoiler. There is a remove spoiler option for the ERT1; there's no glitching involved. The Tyrus and the RE-7B, however, do not have the remove spoiler option, which sucks. We aren't speaking of the Emperor though. We are speaking of the RE-7B. It is clearly visualized in the stats of the Emperor, and there is clearly an option to remove the spoiler on the Emperor. On the RE-7B, there is no option, and no stat change when performing the glitch (visually). Due to this it is safe to assume that removing the spoiler via glitch has no effect on the traction of the car versus the stock spoiler that comes with the purchase. This type of glitch is what is known to the older players (and forum goers) as a body style mod, which does not change the performance of the vehicle. A good example of a similar instance is the Elegy RH8, which has a body style with a stock spoiler, and a body style with no spoiler at all. It performs exactly the same, whether the stock spoiler is there or not, because it is entirely visual.Except that numerous people have tested the Annis and concluded that the spoiler definitely does something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 just give it a few days and they would roll out a stealth hotfix... remember the banshee and super fast slamvan? I doubt it. And the fix for the Slamvan Custom was removed - it is still quite capable of reaching up to, or surpass 180mph (on the PC version, but that's the version people are talking about when they refer to "insane sort of speeds"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows to Athens Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) I apologise if this is considered off-topic, but does removing the spoiler from the ERT1 add traction like a spoiler does or not? It does, the logic being that anything other than stock spoiler improves traction. The problem with this answer is that glitching the spoiler off isn't changing the stock spoiler, because this is considered a body style. So glitching it off does not add or remove any traction bonuses, as it still is technically a stock spoiler. There is a remove spoiler option for the ERT1; there's no glitching involved. The Tyrus and the RE-7B, however, do not have the remove spoiler option, which sucks. We aren't speaking of the Emperor though. We are speaking of the RE-7B. It is clearly visualized in the stats of the Emperor, and there is clearly an option to remove the spoiler on the Emperor. On the RE-7B, there is no option, and no stat change when performing the glitch (visually). Due to this it is safe to assume that removing the spoiler via glitch has no effect on the traction of the car versus the stock spoiler that comes with the purchase. This type of glitch is what is known to the older players (and forum goers) as a body style mod, which does not change the performance of the vehicle. A good example of a similar instance is the Elegy RH8, which has a body style with a stock spoiler, and a body style with no spoiler at all. It performs exactly the same, whether the stock spoiler is there or not, because it is entirely visual.Except that numerous people have tested the Annis and concluded that the spoiler definitely does something He's saying that removing the spoiler on the RE-7B by glitching does not increase traction like an after market spoiler does. If you're talking about the stock spoiler, then that doesn't increase traction like an after market spoiler does. Edited July 14, 2016 by Arrows to Athens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato_hater Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I apologise if this is considered off-topic, but does removing the spoiler from the ERT1 add traction like a spoiler does or not? It does, the logic being that anything other than stock spoiler improves traction. The problem with this answer is that glitching the spoiler off isn't changing the stock spoiler, because this is considered a body style. So glitching it off does not add or remove any traction bonuses, as it still is technically a stock spoiler. There is a remove spoiler option for the ERT1; there's no glitching involved. The Tyrus and the RE-7B, however, do not have the remove spoiler option, which sucks. We aren't speaking of the Emperor though. We are speaking of the RE-7B. It is clearly visualized in the stats of the Emperor, and there is clearly an option to remove the spoiler on the Emperor. On the RE-7B, there is no option, and no stat change when performing the glitch (visually). Due to this it is safe to assume that removing the spoiler via glitch has no effect on the traction of the car versus the stock spoiler that comes with the purchase. This type of glitch is what is known to the older players (and forum goers) as a body style mod, which does not change the performance of the vehicle. A good example of a similar instance is the Elegy RH8, which has a body style with a stock spoiler, and a body style with no spoiler at all. It performs exactly the same, whether the stock spoiler is there or not, because it is entirely visual.Except that numerous people have tested the Annis and concluded that the spoiler definitely does something He's saying that removing the spoiler on the RE-7B by glitching does not increase traction like an after market spoiler does. If you're talking about the stock spoiler, then that doesn't increase traction like an after market spoiler does. AhhBut im guessing instead of increasing traction it brings along the suspension glitch? Tbf the car didn't need anymore traction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGrandis Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I apologise if this is considered off-topic, but does removing the spoiler from the ERT1 add traction like a spoiler does or not? It does, the logic being that anything other than stock spoiler improves traction. The problem with this answer is that glitching the spoiler off isn't changing the stock spoiler, because this is considered a body style. So glitching it off does not add or remove any traction bonuses, as it still is technically a stock spoiler. There is a remove spoiler option for the ERT1; there's no glitching involved. The Tyrus and the RE-7B, however, do not have the remove spoiler option, which sucks. We aren't speaking of the Emperor though. We are speaking of the RE-7B. It is clearly visualized in the stats of the Emperor, and there is clearly an option to remove the spoiler on the Emperor. On the RE-7B, there is no option, and no stat change when performing the glitch (visually). Due to this it is safe to assume that removing the spoiler via glitch has no effect on the traction of the car versus the stock spoiler that comes with the purchase. This type of glitch is what is known to the older players (and forum goers) as a body style mod, which does not change the performance of the vehicle. A good example of a similar instance is the Elegy RH8, which has a body style with a stock spoiler, and a body style with no spoiler at all. It performs exactly the same, whether the stock spoiler is there or not, because it is entirely visual. Except that numerous people have tested the Annis and concluded that the spoiler definitely does something He's saying that removing the spoiler on the RE-7B by glitching does not increase traction like an after market spoiler does. If you're talking about the stock spoiler, then that doesn't increase traction like an after market spoiler does. AhhBut im guessing instead of increasing traction it brings along the suspension glitch? Tbf the car didn't need anymore traction Its reverse, the increased traction brings the suspension glitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait2006NC Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 When the fix this, they need to remove curb boosting as well. Thats enough of the cheese already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tofu86_ Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The 7B is fast yes. It becomes faster with Stock Tires and Custom spoiler because the suspension is broken and it gets curb boosts. 7B Tyre type top speed / CCGP Times testing* Stock tyres top speed: 146.8mph CCGP time: 59.892s Tuners: 127.7 CCGP time: 57.756 Offroads: 122.6 CCGP time: 57.888 Highends: 130.0 CCGP time: 58.358 SUV: 129.2 CCGP time: 58.356 Courtesy of NoDo PS4 testing So it's faster on the straight but worse overall with stocks? Huh. Well, time to change my rims then Mervz789 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Are Ninja Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 When the fix this, they need to remove curb boosting as well. Thats enough of the cheese already. I hear the term "curb-boosting" all the time. What is it exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The placebo is real in this one. I wasn't aware that placebo creates measurable difference on performance. Oakeni 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPECTER II Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 The airport won't get it to its maxed speed. Drive it along a straight highway and it gets to a max of 180 mph. Sometimes it doesn't go up all the way, sometimes capping at around 150-160. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryday Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Can someone confirm, that the RE7b: a.) has higher top Speed with the stock rims b.) has faster laptimes (no high Speed tracks) for the most tracks? its curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitrispgr Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 When the fix this, they need to remove curb boosting as well. Thats enough of the cheese already. They wont unfortunatelly. Its been 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Are Ninja Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 When the fix this, they need to remove curb boosting as well. Thats enough of the cheese already. I hear the term "curb-boosting" all the time. What is it exactly? NM. Found it. Never done it intentionally. TKDSnovelist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trix_N Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 When the fix this, they need to remove curb boosting as well. Thats enough of the cheese already. They wont unfortunatelly. Its been 3 years. wish they would though, the constant suspension bumping sound is sooooo annoying; thats the reason my first char got the tyrus and my newly one the etr1, dont care about speed or lap times when im always annoyed by that sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridl0k Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 When the fix this, they need to remove curb boosting as well. Thats enough of the cheese already. I hear the term "curb-boosting" all the time. What is it exactly? NM. Found it. Never done it intentionally. It's very very useful when delivering sluggish vans. We Are Ninja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuke Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Does the ugly carbon wing do anything on consoles anyway? because i seriously dislike the look of that eyesour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Are Ninja Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 When the fix this, they need to remove curb boosting as well. Thats enough of the cheese already. I hear the term "curb-boosting" all the time. What is it exactly? NM. Found it. Never done it intentionally. It's very very useful when delivering sluggish vans. Oh, snap. It works in free roam too? I'm learning all sorts of interesting sh*t today... I always wondered why players would immediately head to the outermost sides of the track the moment the race started. Initially, I thought they were trying to wreck other players, but they just stayed there as long and as often as they could, like "racing line be damned". Now I understand why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatorBait2006NC Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 When the fix this, they need to remove curb boosting as well. Thats enough of the cheese already. I hear the term "curb-boosting" all the time. What is it exactly? NM. Found it. Never done it intentionally. It's very very useful when delivering sluggish vans. Oh, snap. It works in free roam too? I'm learning all sorts of interesting sh*t today... I always wondered why players would immediately head to the outermost sides of the track the moment the race started. Initially, I thought they were trying to wreck other players, but they just stayed there as long and as often as they could, like "racing line be damned". Now I understand why. I usually host racing rooms all day during the weekends. Mainly so I can boot curb riders. Its funny watch cheesers do it. GTA needs to put some logic into racing. For example, dirt tires on a Zentorno should be a negative, it should make you go slower. That way there are pros and cons rather than just pros. Seeing all these dirt tires on supers is just more GTA cheese. We Are Ninja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs151 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I am on PC and with carbon wing and stock tires i can tell you there is nothing that can beat the 7B on any of the stunt races. I won like 70ish races with it and only lost to other 7Bs. So for now it is the fastest car in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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