"3 new supers should be in their own class"

[Non Fiction]

So is it the top speed, acceleration or both? Just curious

[CarimboHanky]

being smoking them new supers with my osiris all day accusations of modding and all hahaha which is funny given the fact im on ps4

 

owned player message:

"you only won because speed mod scumbag"

 

me:

"thats not modding, that called using the brakes"

[Kroma]

being smoking them new supers with my osiris all day accusations of modding and all hahaha which is funny given the fact im on ps4

 

owned player message:

"you only won because speed mod scumbag"

 

me:

"thats not modding, that called using the brain"

 

There. Fixed it for you Hanky.

[Ornacia]

The Grotti Brioso R/A is a force to be reckoned with

 

so sexy...

[bloatedsack]

But the "X car ruins X class" and "It's all to sell Cash Cards" rhetoric is getting old. I used to watch his Discussion and Analysis but it's just

those two points, repeated.

 

Well, yes and no.

 

There's a time and a place where cars really do ruin classes, and Bouphghy's testing isn't neccessarily a valid indicator of it. His testing shows where a car ruins his preferred track and style, but sometimes it's a difference in different races and different drivers.

 

Other times, he's right. These three new cars are so much better in terms of what they do that they really do wreck the class.

 

In other topical news, I can't stand that dude's voice and I wish he found someone else to narrate his sh*t.

 

Also, you people swing just a little too hard from his nuts.

[Ledorus]

Yeah they should have been put into their class. In fact, a lot of previous cars should have. The only new super I didn't find hideous in this update was the Tyrus and that was the only one I got because of that. At least if I'm in a supercar race I'll still be competitive.

[seantaylor21-36]

Apologies to Broughy1322, he's a good guy and this particular video is very informative. Thanks.

 

His previous videos over the last few days are not of the same quality, and rant on about how excited he is about this update and how it will be a potential game-changer for the racing community, instead of addressing the real issues at hand.

 

And as for Nutduster, as per my PM direct to you. You're an asshole.

I'd just like to say that the main/sole purpose of Broughy's Fastest Fully Upgraded Car series is to inform. For the racing community it is really helpful to see A. How fast the car is, and B. Broughy's comments on what the car is like to drive (how it goes over bumps, how much it understeers or oversteers, etc.) Problems are usually addressed in discussion videos. As for his excitedness for the update, I can say that it was warranted considering that it's the first time R* has noticed and created a dlc largely for the racing community. As noted by PeeCarNoo, le mans cars and mclaren f1's don't normally do stunts. These are pure racing cars given to us among a slew of stunt races that please the rest of gta players. The props that we'll see on the 2nd will also be great for the creation of serious racing tracks. New kerbs lifted tracks offer exciting opportunities. Just trying to remind that Broughy represents the serious racing community, not necessarily every gta player.

 

Edit: to OT, I do believe these cars should've been in their own class. All the other supers are too far off the pace. And also, since when should road cars have to compete with le mans cars?

Edited July 12, 2016 by seantaylor21-36

[Trix_N]

I agree on the title, and asking me did those devs at rockstar never drive their creations and compare the laptimes to existing supers; starting a new racecar class would be the solution so all the other supers dont get obsolet(well sure except u collect them or got some cause fun).

[Pat]

This thread is about the balance (or lack thereof) of the Supers class post-update, not about the lack of a new property. I don't care which side of the argument you're on; it does not belong here.

[Sussus Amongus]

Yeah they should have been put into their class. In fact, a lot of previous cars should have. The only new super I didn't find hideous in this update was the Tyrus and that was the only one I got because of that. At least if I'm in a supercar race I'll still be competitive.

Indeed. They should just make a hypercar class and rebalance all the vehicle classes in another racing themed update. What we have now is a mess.

[Kingorion88]

So what is the tier list looking like now? These 3 new cars>811>x80>t20? Can someone tell me.

[Mattoropael]

 

Apologies to Broughy1322, he's a good guy and this particular video is very informative. Thanks.

 

His previous videos over the last few days are not of the same quality, and rant on about how excited he is about this update and how it will be a potential game-changer for the racing community, instead of addressing the real issues at hand.

 

And as for Nutduster, as per my PM direct to you. You're an asshole.

I'd just like to say that the main/sole purpose of Broughy's Fastest Fully Upgraded Car series is to inform. For the racing community it is really helpful to see A. How fast the car is, and B. Broughy's comments on what the car is like to drive (how it goes over bumps, how much it understeers or oversteers, etc.) Problems are usually addressed in discussion videos. As for his excitedness for the update, I can say that it was warranted considering that it's the first time R* has noticed and created a dlc largely for the racing community. As noted by PeeCarNoo, le mans cars and mclaren f1's don't normally do stunts. These are pure racing cars given to us among a slew of stunt races that please the rest of gta players. The props that we'll see on the 2nd will also be great for the creation of serious racing tracks. New kerbs lifted tracks offer exciting opportunities. Just trying to remind that Broughy represents the serious racing community, not necessarily every gta player.

 

Edit: to OT, I do believe these cars should've been in their own class. All the other supers are too far off the pace. And also, since when should road cars have to compete with le mans cars?

 

 

And it shows, as the RE-7B is actually very tricky in stunt races. It handles jumps particularly bad since it's so light and fast - it goes airborne for way too long and often misses checkpoints, fly straight out of the track or hit overhead obstacles. You need to be conscious about such traps and slow down at the ramp if you're driving it.

 

 

So what is the tier list looking like now? These 3 new cars>811>x80>t20? Can someone tell me.

 

New order of the day: The three new "supers" trashes all old supers, at least on Cutting Coroners GP. And the 811 was never among the top to begin with.

 

811 is still king on straights and straights-dominated tracks AFAIK. Thing is just ridiculous. RE-7B might actually challenge it, since it's also affected by the suspension glitch.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Mattoropael

[o_Marvelous]

I agree they should be in their own class

[Kingorion88]

 

 

Apologies to Broughy1322, he's a good guy and this particular video is very informative. Thanks.

 

His previous videos over the last few days are not of the same quality, and rant on about how excited he is about this update and how it will be a potential game-changer for the racing community, instead of addressing the real issues at hand.

 

And as for Nutduster, as per my PM direct to you. You're an asshole.

I'd just like to say that the main/sole purpose of Broughy's Fastest Fully Upgraded Car series is to inform. For the racing community it is really helpful to see A. How fast the car is, and B. Broughy's comments on what the car is like to drive (how it goes over bumps, how much it understeers or oversteers, etc.) Problems are usually addressed in discussion videos. As for his excitedness for the update, I can say that it was warranted considering that it's the first time R* has noticed and created a dlc largely for the racing community. As noted by PeeCarNoo, le mans cars and mclaren f1's don't normally do stunts. These are pure racing cars given to us among a slew of stunt races that please the rest of gta players. The props that we'll see on the 2nd will also be great for the creation of serious racing tracks. New kerbs lifted tracks offer exciting opportunities. Just trying to remind that Broughy represents the serious racing community, not necessarily every gta player.

 

Edit: to OT, I do believe these cars should've been in their own class. All the other supers are too far off the pace. And also, since when should road cars have to compete with le mans cars?

 

And it shows, as the RE-7B is actually very tricky in stunt races. It handles jumps particularly bad since it's so light and fast - it goes airborne for way too long and often misses checkpoints, fly straight out of the track or hit overhead obstacles. You need to be conscious about such traps and slow down at the ramp if you're driving it.

 

 

So what is the tier list looking like now? These 3 new cars>811>x80>t20? Can someone tell me.

New order of the day: The three new "supers" trashes all old supers, at least on Cutting Coroners GP. And the 811 was never among the top to begin with.

 

811 is still king on straights and straights-dominated tracks AFAIK. Thing is just ridiculous. RE-7B might actually challenge it, since it's also affected by the suspension glitch.

Is the t20 still the best outside the new 3? Or is it something else?

[Silver le Belge]

Yes they should. I understand R* wants to give us faster and faster cars either to please the player base or sell Shark Card but racing games should have some balance, and give multiple options dépending of your taste.

 

At least with these new cars they tried to give three balanced cars. And they messed up since one of them is quite dominant. It's still better than a class being f*cked by accident like the sedan class with the armored V12.

 

GTA 5 classes are now all dominated by one car except the coupes. All we can hope is that R* learns their lesson and avoid this mistake in their future games.

[LeeTone]

These 3 new cars>811>x80>t20?

 

Pretty much.

Edited July 13, 2016 by LeeTone

[Rondetti]

Are there any other cars getting such a huge performance boost with a carbon spoiler?

its not working on xbox one

[oleg_aka_djmeg]

being smoking them new supers with my osiris all day accusations of modding and all hahaha which is funny given the fact im on ps4

 

owned player message:

"you only won because speed mod scumbag"

 

me:

"thats not modding, that called using the brakes"

the funny thing is that those cars are so nimble, you don't actually have to use brakes with them all that much.

[Incorgnito]

If Rockstar just made it so that when you de-select a vehicle in the creator, it's custom counterpart wouldn't be available for use if you owned one. For example I made a race exclusive to the Sanchez and Enduro, and those were the only two vehicles I selected in the creator; once customs were turned on in the race lobby though I could select other bikes I owned that weren't the Sanchez or Enduro, my Faggio, Bati, Lectro, etc...

 

If they made it this way we could eliminate the dirt bikes from off road custom races and have proper desert rallys, eliminate the new vehicles from super races, or eliminate slower crappier cars in a class. Those are just examples but you get it. Could something like this be abused? Sort of, but if the race creator eliminates good stuff for no good reason, downvote it!

 

I have my doubts we'll ever see it but if multi-class racing was allowed then things would be interesting. Then you could just class everything yourself, accordingly, which would be awesome. Or you could make ridicuouls tracks where it's supers vs off roads or something like that.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

Broughy f*cked up on this one. He should have addressed the real issues at hand here - Rockstar giving us 13 new cars that long-term players don't have any room to store. Instead of pouting on about the amazing new cars. And no matter how good the stunt races - they're still lobby orientated, meaning you have to wait for players to join in with your magic races that magically hover over the city. It's not new and not spontaneous.

 

Broughy is becoming the new MrBossFTW, unfortunately.

 

EDIT:

To be fair to Broughy, he does pile on the pressure on Rockstar for releasing supercars which absolutely destroy the supercars racing field. This means if you don't own at least one of the three new supercars you're no longer competitive in the supercar racing category. In other words, the Progen T20 which costs 2.2 million dollars + upgrades is now pretty useless for racing, as are all the other supercars. You're forced into selling at least one supercar to make room for these faster cars, whether you like it or not.

i would indeed say he got a bit overhyped on this one indeed, but i doubt he will not discuss that issue in his cunning stunts discussion video,...and i asume that video will in fact happen

 

indeed, this is a goddamn cashgrab.

 

to go even further, the visual modifications are not that great...for an example it is impossible to make a real pretty classic mclaren f1 out of the tyrus.

 

so yea, those 3 should indeed be in their own class, but it is not happening.

this game is becoming quite the pay for play game in a way....

 

when heists was released you could just go and play all of those and pretty much afford every car you needed for racing

 

if i am right and the new bikes, offroads and the new sports destroy their competitors, this update just changed my personal reason why i thought that, even besides all those high prices, everything was still reasonable before.

 

not really saying the prices are this unreasonable, but if that happened and its in combination with the fact we did not get new properties at all, then this game really reached a new low

[JohnGazman]

At least with these new cars they tried to give three balanced cars. And they messed up since one of them is quite dominant. It's still better than a class being f*cked by accident like the sedan class with the armored V12.

 

That's the key here. Yes, these cars are miles better than existing Super cars. But there are three of them - this isn't the Stirling GT all over again.

 

If they just added the RE-7B, then yes, the class would be broken. But they didn't - the Emperor and the Tyrus are competitive enough that i've seen people beat the RE-7 in them.

[Sentinel Driver]

 

Broughy f*cked up on this one. He should have addressed the real issues at hand here - Rockstar giving us 13 new cars that long-term players don't have any room to store. Instead of pouting on about the amazing new cars. And no matter how good the stunt races - they're still lobby orientated, meaning you have to wait for players to join in with your magic races that magically hover over the city. It's not new and not spontaneous.

 

Broughy is becoming the new MrBossFTW, unfortunately.

 

EDIT:

To be fair to Broughy, he does pile on the pressure on Rockstar for releasing supercars which absolutely destroy the supercars racing field. This means if you don't own at least one of the three new supercars you're no longer competitive in the supercar racing category. In other words, the Progen T20 which costs 2.2 million dollars + upgrades is now pretty useless for racing, as are all the other supercars. You're forced into selling at least one supercar to make room for these faster cars, whether you like it or not.

i would indeed say he got a bit overhyped on this one indeed, but i doubt he will not discuss that issue in his cunning stunts discussion video,...and i asume that video will in fact happen

 

indeed, this is a goddamn cashgrab.

 

to go even further, the visual modifications are not that great...for an example it is impossible to make a real pretty classic mclaren f1 out of the tyrus.

 

so yea, those 3 should indeed be in their own class, but it is not happening.

this game is becoming quite the pay for play game in a way....

 

when heists was released you could just go and play all of those and pretty much afford every car you needed for racing

 

if i am right and the new bikes, offroads and the new sports destroy their competitors, this update just changed my personal reason why i thought that, even besides all those high prices, everything was still reasonable before.

 

not really saying the prices are this unreasonable, but if that happened and its in combination with the fact we did not get new properties at all, then this game really reached a new low

 

New sports cars suck. New supers are best in class

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

 

Broughy f*cked up on this one. He should have addressed the real issues at hand here - Rockstar giving us 13 new cars that long-term players don't have any room to store. Instead of pouting on about the amazing new cars. And no matter how good the stunt races - they're still lobby orientated, meaning you have to wait for players to join in with your magic races that magically hover over the city. It's not new and not spontaneous.

 

Broughy is becoming the new MrBossFTW, unfortunately.

 

EDIT:

To be fair to Broughy, he does pile on the pressure on Rockstar for releasing supercars which absolutely destroy the supercars racing field. This means if you don't own at least one of the three new supercars you're no longer competitive in the supercar racing category. In other words, the Progen T20 which costs 2.2 million dollars + upgrades is now pretty useless for racing, as are all the other supercars. You're forced into selling at least one supercar to make room for these faster cars, whether you like it or not.

 

i would indeed say he got a bit overhyped on this one indeed, but i doubt he will not discuss that issue in his cunning stunts discussion video,...and i asume that video will in fact happen

 

indeed, this is a goddamn cashgrab.

 

to go even further, the visual modifications are not that great...for an example it is impossible to make a real pretty classic mclaren f1 out of the tyrus.

 

so yea, those 3 should indeed be in their own class, but it is not happening.

this game is becoming quite the pay for play game in a way....

 

when heists was released you could just go and play all of those and pretty much afford every car you needed for racing

 

if i am right and the new bikes, offroads and the new sports destroy their competitors, this update just changed my personal reason why i thought that, even besides all those high prices, everything was still reasonable before.

 

not really saying the prices are this unreasonable, but if that happened and its in combination with the fact we did not get new properties at all, then this game really reached a new low

 

New sports cars suck. New supers are best in classSo far we know.