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SpriteFan274

GTA TLaD Special Vehicle Guide

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Lethal Vaccine

You can see the Blue a little bit in the Photo. It's noticeable on the curvy, angular parts of the Laundromat. Like I said, no matter what's it's Lustered and very visible at night time. Maybe when I finish my 2nd Save File, I will take a random, other Photo showing how the Blue on the Laundromat looks at night time with a headlight shining on it...

 

Well, ANY Luster for the Laundromat is special, as is the Black. It's a Unique Vehicle for one and when you drive it around, you'll never see it spawn in Black or with a Luster...

 

But yeah, for Vehicles in general, there needs to be confirmation on all possible Lusters for each Special Vehicle AND what is special in terms of what does NOT spawn in traffic since some Lusters do spawn in traffic, but it seems those Lusters remain the same on the same Vehicles and Base Colors found in traffic...

 

The Turismo with this Color spawns in traffic, except the difference is there is NO Luster on that Turismo in traffic. Then there is also the Red Turismo with the Taxi Yellow Luster that spawns in traffic, too. The only thing special on the Turismo from the Dave Grossman Random Encounter is the Luster and you don't always have it spawning with this particular Luster, either, so you need to be careful. It's Cabaret Red and since the Turismo is Red as well as the Luster, it gives off a sort of White shine to it, so it looks like the Luster is White when it's really a different kind of Red.

 

Yeah, I don't die or have an issue with anything in TLaD, but I DO die a lot after Gang War 25 and seem to only be able to do 2 in a row before saving and/or getting Body Armor and such. It's really annoying. I have over 900 Headshots and just over 1,000 Kills in my Save, so as you can see, it's not a problem to kill the enemies quick. The problem is there is just too many of them in later Gang Wars and usually all my backup dies and it's me VS 50 guys with AK-47's, Shotguns, Grenades, and all this insane high powered weaponry...Yeah, the bulk of the game is basically Gang Wars. If this feature wasn't included in TLaD, like Drug Wars in TBoGT, the games both would be SO much shorter and no substance, basically...

 

Yeah, I will get it from Action/Reaction as I doubt I will find a Blue/White or Orange/Black Gang Burrito in Gang Wars, so the EC Charcoal Black is the next best thing to get...

 

I've seen the NE Mule AGAIN and also an EC Red Hybrid Packer in Gang Wars in the Save I just finished, only the the Packer was the Convoy Target and those are very difficult to obtain and keep since the Gang War is only passed and finished when you blow the Gang Vehicle up in the parking space, which can easily be deleted and vanish when you do that...

 

EDIT: Here is the Luster on the Laundromat. See? It's some kind of Navy Blue or something and only seen at night time, apparently. Which is strange as Lancet Jades' Gamefaqs Guides mention how Black Base Colored Vehicles, like this Laundromat, should be seen well in the daylight for its Luster. But in this case, I don't see it much in the daylight and only at night time...

 

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SpriteFan274

I see the Blue Color, weird how it's much more visible during the Night time than during Daylight, despite it being EC Black! Meanwhile, on the other Lustered Vehicles, you can't see anything during the Night. Looks awesome nonetheless! It almost looks like the Body Color is Blue... Reminds me of the Buccanneer in IV from Stevie's Car Thefts... Purple Luster, Black Body Color, but because of the Luster the Purple looks like it's the Body Color.

I also don't get how you NEVER saw a EC Gang Burrito which isn't Charcoal Black in TLaD, while others did... I have no idea what the odds are or if the Locations have anything to do with it.

Your two TLaD Saves are for sure incredible with the Collection!



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Lethal Vaccine

Well, yeah, that's how Lusters are. Like, if I took a Photo of the Schafter, Stretch, and Turismo at night time, you wouldn't see their Lusters at all, while this Laundromat you can't really see its Luster during the day, but clearly at night is when it shines bright. Also, with certain camera angles, the Lusters are shown much better, as well. You need to move the camera around and rotate it to see that metallic Color overlapping the Base Color...

 

I don't get it either, except most people seem to be playing a different Version and Platform than me. I have the Greatest Hits, V2 (?) of Episodes from Liberty City Disc with TLaD and TBoGT on the same Disc, without IV. Whoever saw these Gang Burritos seem to never have the exact Version as I do, so honestly my Version might not even have it. I feel it DOES have it, but for some reason, I never found it and after the 2nd Save File, it will be my 6th time through TLaD in total to 100% with varying number of Gang Wars, either 25, 26, or 50 in all 6 of these Saves, yet no Gang Burritos. So it's very odd indeed...

 

Yeah, once both are finished, I am only missing some useless Rare Gang War EC Vehicles like a Lycan, Daemon, Angel and stuff like that from the AoD in a Gang War, but I don't care for ALL Rare Vehicles, only the ones I can get and like. My main goal is to get all 23 one time only, truly Special Vehicles from the Story which isn't repeatable and infinite, unless you start over, and once both Saves are finished, I got all 23...

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Paisan™

That red luster on the Schafter is looking fineeeeeee.

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Lethal Vaccine

Lol, yeah...I like it, too. I also like the Laundromat's Luster, but shame it's only very clear and visible at night. But I am not too worried by that. I COULD OF got the SAME Luster like you see on the Schafter on the Laundromat, but I didn't want the identical Luster. The Lusters are different on the 4 Lustered Vehicles in my Save and that's what I wanted.

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I obtained a Lustered Cabaret Red Turismo.....or so I think I did. Check these photos out, to be honest, it kind of looks like it has the taxi luster, can anyone confirm which luster is has?

https://imgur.com/Di6Clgs

https://imgur.com/U78Ya3p

https://imgur.com/Dx5jE5l

https://imgur.com/YSe1YQN

 

I tried the mission a second time, and this one spawned. Can anyone confirm this luster as well:

https://imgur.com/vUt9geu

https://imgur.com/v933TBa

 

How are you supposed to tell the difference? They look so similar.

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Lethal Vaccine

Only the RED Base Color is similar. The Lusters are clear as day to me and it looks like the FIRST set of 4 Photos you show is the one with the Cabaret Red Luster, which is the SPECIAL Turismo. The SECOND set of 2 Photos is blurry and hard for me to see, but even that looks special.

 

You can easily tell the difference. Just drive the Turismo to the Grotti Dealership over near Niko's Middle Park East Parking Spaces and there usually is a Red Turismo inside there with the Taxi Yellow Luster. It also spawns in traffic, a lot, too. You can see the difference clear as day when side by side. The Dave Grossman Red Turismo also spawns in traffic, but it has NO Luster, while the one in the Random Encounter DOES have a Luster. I've compared all the Red Colored Turismo's side by side my Lustered Turismo from the Random Encounter and none of them were a match to the one I have, thus truly special...

 

Fact is, if you don't see any Bright Yellow Shiny Effect on the Turismo, then it's the right one. If you see any Bright Yellow Shiny Effect, then it's the wrong one. To me, it's very obvious when the wrong one spawns as you can tell immediately...

 

The correct Luster is Cabaret Red, HOWEVER, like in Lancet's Guide on Gamefaqs, he says it's almost "White," and I agree. Look in my Photo. What's shining is a White Color, but it's actually Cabaret Red. The reason it looks White I guess is due to the fact the Base Color is Red as well as the Luster, so it gives a White glossy look to it...

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Only the RED Base Color is similar. The Lusters are clear as day to me and it looks like the FIRST set of 4 Photos you show is the one with the Cabaret Red Luster, which is the SPECIAL Turismo. The SECOND set of 2 Photos is blurry and hard for me to see, but even that looks special.

 

You can easily tell the difference. Just drive the Turismo to the Grotti Dealership over near Niko's Middle Park East Parking Spaces and there usually is a Red Turismo inside there with the Taxi Yellow Luster. It also spawns in traffic, a lot, too. You can see the difference clear as day when side by side. The Dave Grossman Red Turismo also spawns in traffic, but it has NO Luster, while the one in the Random Encounter DOES have a Luster. I've compared all the Red Colored Turismo's side by side my Lustered Turismo from the Random Encounter and none of them were a match to the one I have, thus truly special...

 

Fact is, if you don't see any Bright Yellow Shiny Effect on the Turismo, then it's the right one. If you see any Bright Yellow Shiny Effect, then it's the wrong one. To me, it's very obvious when the wrong one spawns as you can tell immediately...

 

The correct Luster is Cabaret Red, HOWEVER, like in Lancet's Guide on Gamefaqs, he says it's almost "White," and I agree. Look in my Photo. What's shining is a White Color, but it's actually Cabaret Red. The reason it looks White I guess is due to the fact the Base Color is Red as well as the Luster, so it gives a White glossy look to it...

Well the Turismo in the first set of 4 photos DOES have a yellow effect to it, just look at the last photo. The second Turismo, which I did not save, actually looks like the correct Luster.

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SpriteFan274

TLaD installed. Hazard's Save Editor installed. Let the party roll...
Format: First the Name of the Vehicle... Then 4 Colors. First two Colors = Body Colors. Last two Colors = Lusters. The last Part are the Traffic Defaults of the Vehicles.

EC Crimson Diabolus (Clean and Serene) - Special and even has a Special Luster (Brian's Bike)

Currant Red Solid - 37
Race Yellow Solid - 90
Mellow Burgundy - 129
Black Poly - 1
diabolus - 98,102,6, 102,106,98, 106,106,127, 1,33,6, 31,31,35

EC Magenta Diabolus (Angels in America) - Special and even has a Special Luster (Jason's Bike)
Surf Blue - 69
Twilight Blue Poly - 49 or 88
Cherry Red - 125
Black Poly - 1
diabolus - 98,102,6, 102,106,98, 106,106,127, 1,33,6, 31,31,35

EC Black Gang Burrito (Action/Reaction) - Special EC

Black - 0
Black - 0
Black - 0
Black - 0
gburrito - 1,2,0

Unique Yankee with Wooden Crate Back - Not EC, not Lustered, but a Unique Vehicle, actually called Yankee2 in the Game Files

Black Poly - 1
Concord Blue Poly - 2
Silver Stone Poly - 8 (from the RGB, not 4, same Color Names, different RGBs)
Winning Silver Poly - 5
yankee2 - 1,2,8,5
Interestingly enough:
Johnny's Hexer IS EC and Lustered White...

Surf Blue - 69
White - 112
White - 112
Black - 0
hexer - 4,0,96, 111,111,6, 129,129,129, 106,106,106



NOT Special reports:

Billy's Revenant is truly NOT Special! (Clean and Serene)
Black Poly - 1
Race Yellow Solid - 90
Pueblo Beige - 95
Black - 0
revenant - 1,90,95, 6,93,113, 10,93,113, 33,33,35, 88,17,91

The two friendly Lycans in Angels in America are NOT Special!
Not sure if they're Traffic Defaults, but I got these:

Ofxord White Solid - 92
Ofxord White Solid - 92
Ofxord White Solid - 92
Black - 0

Black Poly - 1
Black Poly - 1
Cabernet Red Poly - 34
Black - 0
lycan - 106,106,105, 1,1,34, 23,23,5, 49,49,54, 92,92,92

Gang Burrito from It's War is TRULY NOT SPECIAL!

Black Poly - 1
Concord Blue Poly - 2
Black - 0
Black - 0
gburrito - 1,2,0

Same Gang Burrito can be found in Action/Reaction.

Liberty City Choppers Bikes: (ALL OF THEM ARE NOT SPECIAL!!!)

Angel:
Graceful Red Mica - 31
Silver Stone Poly - 4 (from RGB)
Graceful Red Mica - 31
Black - 0
angel - 74,112,4, 31,4,31, 49,112,49

Wayfarer:
Med. Flax - 94
Black Poly - 1
White - 112
Black - 0
wayfarer - 112,0,8, 31,4,112, 94,1,112, 86,18,112, 18,69,112, 86,69,112

Angel:
Twilight Blue Poly - 49 (maybe even 88, but the RGB and Color Names for both Numbers are the same)
White - 112
Twilight Blue Poly - 49 (same information)
Black - 0
View above, it's a Traffic Default

Wayfarer:
Lt.Sapphire Blue Poly - 86 (not 79, both IDs have the same Color Name, but different RGB and it's 86 from RGB, thus not Special)
Police White - 18
White - 112
Black - 0
View above, it's a Traffic Default

Wayfarer:
Graceful Red Mica - 31
Silver Stone Poly - 4
White - 112
Black - 0
Another Traffic Default

FIB Buffalo from Bad Cop Drop is also normal - 0,0,8,0

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Lethal Vaccine

If days go by without anyone replying in between, don't hesitate to Double Post as this information is immensely useful and needed for the Special Vehicles in the HD Era and to identify if they are truly Special or not. Up until now, nobody has been absolutely 100% sure on some things unless they (like I did for some in TLaD) compared them side by side to Traffic Colored Vehicles and Lusters and saw a difference, but this can take HOURS of just driving around aimlessly to find matches. Like I said, I know what I have in my 1st TLaD Save is ALL truly Special and confirmed, but it's still good to confirm it all with the Carcols.dat File and Save Editors for a peace of mind and to be absolutely 100% sure on these matters.

 

By doing this, as well, you can easily write for the Guide all the ACTUAL Colors and Lusters so nobody is confused anymore and explain what is special and what isn't.

 

Some Vehicles might be EC/Lustered at the same time, making it special in TWO ways. While some may only be EC or some may only be Lustered in which makes them special. It's a no-brainer for Unique Vehicles, of course, but the EC and Lustered Vehicles really need to be confirmed once and for all.

 

The good news is there is only 23 Special Vehicles in TLaD (maybe more if you actually go through and obtain other stuff from Missions and then confirm if it's special or not with Carcols and the Editors and such), so it should go rather quick. Then you can do this for TBoGT which should also go rather quick considering there is only 35 Special Vehicles in that game. But IV will certainly take a long time to do it for...

 

I'll be starting my 2nd TLaD Save File tomorrow...

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SpriteFan274

A lot of EC's also have a Special Luster on them... A LOT of them. Well, I'm confirming this stuff so there's nothing to worry about and TLaD will be fully known soon when I finish.

Information on the Lustered Russian Schafter with EC Silver Grill:

I still don't get it if it's a normal Black Schafter or a Russian Schafter... It would be EC Black, I will re-do Politics to see all possible Lusters on it...
Black - 0
Black - 0
Possible Lusters (shown below)
Black - 0

schafter - 0,1,1, 70,133,8, 16,133,8, 22,133,8, 26,133,18, 34,133,34, 43,133,43, 54,133,54, 57,133,57, 61,133,61, 65,133,65, 68,133,68, 77,133,77, 104,133,103, 106,133,103, 108,133,108, 15,133,93, 19,1,93, 13,133,80

1st and 2nd Color and the unused Luster (4th number) are all 0.

Possible Lusters:
Flax - 93
Bright Red - 43 (not 44, confirmed from RGB)
Silver Stone Poly - 8 (confirmed from RGB)
Lt.Beechwood Poly - 103
Police White - 18
Cabernet Red Poly - 34
Petrol Blue Green Poly - 54
(.....)

I'll do the Luster Test later...

The normal Russian Schafter is:
Black - 0
Black Poly - 1
Black Poly - 1
Black - 0
Variant - 2

All other Schafters (I suppose) and the Schafter from Politics is Variant - 480... Russian Schafter is Variant - 2. Thus the Schafter from Politics is NOT a Russian Schafter, but rather a normal Schafter with EC (!) Black Trims. Russian Schafters would have Black Poly Rims...

I suppose the Grills are given from the Variant. Variant - 480 would give Silver Grills. Variant - 2 would give Black Grills.

Schafter from Politics and Traffic Schafters are Variant 480, thus Silver Grills...

Rims - Russian Schafter has a Black Poly (1) Color 2 (so does the other Traffic Schafter which is 19, 1, 93 in the Game Files), normal Schafters always have a Color 2 of 133 (Very White).

Conclusion:

The Lustered Schafter from Politics has Random Lusters given to it, and EC BLACK RIMS!!!! It's actually a EC/Lustered Schafter. - Lustered Black Schafter with EC Black Rims.

The Silver Grill is not EC! Silver Grill is a Variation thing and doesn't have given Colors to it.

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Paisan™

Who the f*ck decided "You know what these special vehicles are unconfirmed...should I still include them?....Yeah why the f*ck not"

Like who the actual f*ck decided to do that?

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Lethal Vaccine

The original HD Era GTA Special Vehicle Guides were from Gamefaqs. Lancet Jades himself "confirmed" a good chunk of them on his own while some other people told him about others and "confirmed" them. But since 2008, 2009, and 2010 when IV, TLaD, and TBoGT were released, apparently nobody thought to use a Carcols File and/or Save Editors/Trainers to actually truly confirm if they are special or not which is crazy as they been out far too long for things to go unchecked like that...

 

The good news is, MOST of what Lancet Jades and company said IS actually special. But some of the EC's and Lusters weren't exactly the "right" Colors when talking about why the Vehicle in question is special, just that it IS special in some way, shape, or form. Thankfully SpriteFan274 is getting to the bottom of this in TLaD and TBoGT in these upcoming days/weeks and then IV, which could take quite some time since there is 100+ Special Vehicles, basically.

 

Everything the Gamefaqs Guides have said so far in terms of Special Vehicles has been true other than that Black Oracle, which, by the way, is now removed from Lancet Jades' Guide. Told you that I would let him know it's fake and to remove it. No need to have false information written on any Guides.

 

In general, though, just from playing these games (IV, TLaD, TBoGT) as of recently, I have a much better understanding on what is special and what isn't. A lot of the EC's and Lusters all come down to what can spawn in traffic, but this can take a long time to actually try and find matches and confirm them side by side to each other, thus Carcols and Save Editors, we can do it very quickly and move on to the next. SpriteFan274 already confirmed a few Special Vehicles out of the 23 in this game, so this game, as well as TBoGT should go quickly and be done within this month of September with only IV to still be confirmed for all the EC's and Lusters.

 

Interesting also how the Black Yankee from Liberty City Choppers is NOT special in any other way besides its model of being a "Yankee2" in the game files. The Black, which was said to be special was proven NOT to be special at all. Just it's model with that Wooden Crate Back to it. I am getting it in my 2nd Save. It's basically a "Unique Vehicle," despite when entering it, it says Yankee.

 

Anyways, today I am starting my 2nd Save File for TLaD and will get Jason's Magenta Diabolus from Angels in America as well as the EC Black Gang Burrito from Action/Reaction and the Unique Yankee2 from Liberty City Choppers. Will do Story Missions up until Off Route and Coming Down, thus unlocking Gang Wars, Bike Races, Bike Thefts, and Stubbs' Dirty Laundry. I will work on all of these Side Missions over the next days. In this Save, unlike my 1st where I did all 50 Gang Wars, I am only doing 25 but I am going for many Rare EC/Lustered/Hybrid/NE in this 2nd Save to fill 9 other spaces since 7 out of the 16 spaces in this Save are for the one time only Story Special Vehicles. Should be done within a week or so as always and Photos up for the 2nd Save. Then I am moving onto TBoGT for 2 Saves, but luckily don't have to actually play the game to 100%. I am simply just saving my current 100% Save in a two different Slots and then removing the 16 Special Vehicles I have and just using Mission Replays to obtain 16 from the Story all new and different from what I already have and then in the other Slot, I will be obtaining the EC2 Zombie from Frosting on the Cake as well as 15 Drug War EC/Lustered Vehicles which will conclude TBoGT and be done with that as well. Then just to finish my IV Starter Save and a 2nd 100% Save File with 10 new Special Vehicles and convert them to AP. Should be done before 2018...Probably November/December I will be fully done with GTA with only a few minor GTA Projects left, but won't do those for a good year. Gonna take time off from doing Saves...

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More Special Vehicle Stuff:

Off Route EC Sky Blue Rhapsody - EC and Lustered (tho the Luster is not Visible as it's the same as the Body Color):

Police Car Blue - 128
​Police Car Blue - 128
​Police Car Blue - 128
Black - 0
rhapsody - 0,0,33, 7,7,8, 10,10,8, 23,23,8, 57,57,56, 62,62,62, 66,66,66, 72,72,72, 78,78,78, 95,95,95, 104,104,104, 107,107,107, 2,2,63, 21,21,72, 22,22,72, 13,11,91, 19,19,93

Brian's Black Diabolus in This sh*t's Cursed is EC and Lustered

Black - 0
Black - 0
Silver Stone Poly - 4 (confirmed from RGB)
Turismo Red - 35
diabolus - 98,102,6, 102,106,98, 106,106,127, 1,33,6, 31,31,35

Unique Prison Bus is NOT EC, of course...

Jasper Green Poly - 65
Mariner Blue - 66
Jasper Green Poly - 65
Black - 0
pbus - 65,66,65

Stallion at the end of Off Route is not EC of course...

Brt.Currant Red Poly - 38
Black - 0
Bright Red - 44
Black - 0

stalion - 0,0,1, 0,0,124, 33,0,28, 34,0,35, 38,0,44, 49,0,66, 53,0,51, 56,0,51, 58,0,106, 59,0,51, 62,0,71, 64,0,71, 69,0,74, 74,0,74, 76,0,74, 84,0,74, 106,0,106, 21,0,75, 16,0,93

The Stallion is a Traffic Default and not a Set Color, the Named Colors there are the Colors I got first time getting the Stallion, but it's just a Traffic Default and is randomized every time you pass the Mission...

(more to come)

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Lethal Vaccine

40.61% Completion, 0 Deaths, 0 Busted, 0 Cheats, 2 Missions Failed, 0 Pay and Spray Visits, 0 Times Saved, 5:49 Total Playing Time, and 3 out of 16 Special Vehicles. Backed it up on my USB Drive.

 

So far I got the EC/Lustered Diabolus (Jason's) from Angels in America with Mission Failure, EC Black Gang Burrito from Action/Reaction with passing the Mission, and Unique Yankee2 from Liberty City Choppers with Mission Failure.

 

Over the next 4-5 Days, I will work on 12 Bike Races, 10 Bike Thefts, 5 Stubbs' Dirty Laundry Missions + Getting the NE Dukes, and 25 Gang Wars + Getting the Remaining 8 Rare EC/Lustered/NE/Hybrid Vehicles from Gang Wars. Once all of this is done, then I can continue with the Story Missions and the Random Encounters and get the remaining Special Vehicles and finish the Save up. Next Special Vehicle from the STORY Missions is the EC Black Diabolus. Apparently Lustered, too...

 

Good work with more confirmations! I am anticipating the end results for the entire game so we can put this one to bed and move onto TBoGT and do the same for that. Then the big one, IV. This helps tremendously. I am actually quite surprised how Lancet Jades' observations are pretty accurate and without him using any Tools to check these things. He's wrong on Color Names and/or Lusters and the TOTAL POSSIBLE Lusters in which can spawn on some Vehicles, but the Vehicles in question and being "special" in some way, shape, or form, he's been right so far other than the fake Black Oracle which we all know now is nonsense.

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40.61% Completion, 0 Deaths, 0 Busted, 0 Cheats, 2 Missions Failed, 0 Pay and Spray Visits, 0 Times Saved, 5:49 Total Playing Time, and 3 out of 16 Special Vehicles. Backed it up on my USB Drive.

 

So far I got the EC/Lustered Diabolus (Jason's) from Angels in America with Mission Failure, EC Black Gang Burrito from Action/Reaction with passing the Mission, and Unique Yankee2 from Liberty City Choppers with Mission Failure.

 

Over the next 4-5 Days, I will work on 12 Bike Races, 10 Bike Thefts, 5 Stubbs' Dirty Laundry Missions + Getting the NE Dukes, and 25 Gang Wars + Getting the Remaining 8 Rare EC/Lustered/NE/Hybrid Vehicles from Gang Wars. Once all of this is done, then I can continue with the Story Missions and the Random Encounters and get the remaining Special Vehicles and finish the Save up. Next Special Vehicle from the STORY Missions is the EC Black Diabolus. Apparently Lustered, too...

 

Good work with more confirmations! I am anticipating the end results for the entire game so we can put this one to bed and move onto TBoGT and do the same for that. Then the big one, IV. This helps tremendously. I am actually quite surprised how Lancet Jades' observations are pretty accurate and without him using any Tools to check these things. He's wrong on Color Names and/or Lusters and the TOTAL POSSIBLE Lusters in which can spawn on some Vehicles, but the Vehicles in question and being "special" in some way, shape, or form, he's been right so far other than the fake Black Oracle which we all know now is nonsense.

You're already at 40%? Damn your good. Also, are you on PS2? If yes, do you use component cables?

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I start at 16.06% since I have a Starter Save done for TLaD. I have a Starter Save FULL for III, VC, SA, LCS, VCS, TLaD, TBoGT, CW, and V. Only missing GTA IV Starter Save FULL. It's missing 126 Pigeons in the beginning for the remaining 2.50% game completion I still need to have it 11.95% which is the highest you can get after The Cousins Bellic and before It's Your Call. Mine is 9.45% right now, but I plan to finish it before I get to my 2nd 100% Save for IV.

 

Anyways, I am farther than 40.61% now...48.94%...And after today, I will be over 50%. In fact, I will be completely done probably in 3-4 days from now and Photos up and then onto TBoGT 2 Projects...People should realize by now, I am one of the fastest, if not the fastest to get Saves done. Everyone else is slow as sludge it would seem cuz apparently they fail more than they succeed whereas it's the opposite for me. I succeed more than I fail, so if that is the case, I just blow through the games with ease, finish, and move on...

 

When you're someone like me who plays the GTA's regularly and goes to 100% every time with minimum Stats and Special Vehicles, it's redundant and pointless always starting at 0%, thus I do EVERYTHING possible that is available right after the first Story Mission in the game. In terms of TLaD, this is what can be done for 16.06% Completion:

 

Clean and Serene...

50 Seagulls

Win a Game of Arm Wrestling, Pool, Darts, and Air Hockey with ANYONE ONCE

Bring Terry and Clay to Every Friend Activity AT LEAST ONCE (Air Hockey, Darts, Drinking, Eating, Pool, Show, and Strip Club)

 

Not Required for 100%, but I do it anyways: Get Terry/Clay/Jim's Like and Respect maxed to 100%.

 

If you do all of this right after Clean and Serene... you will have 16.06% Completion and can use it for every Save you do. It goes much quicker and smoother without having to redo Collectibles every single time and all those dumb Mini Games and such...

 

I'm on PS3* Even when it comes to the 3D Era on PS2, I still play them on my PS3 since mine is backward compatible to the physical PS2 Discs. But I DO own a PS2 Slim as well and have 6 Memory Cards, but don't play it very much and keep it perfect condition in the box and such. I play all the PS2 GTA's (III, VC, SA, LCS, and VCS) on my PS3 and then I play all the PS3 GTA's also on my PS3 (IV, TLaD, TBoGT, and V). The only GTA I own that does NOT play on my PS3 would be Chinatown Wars. I have it for iOS, though. I also have III, VC, SA, and LCS for iOS but don't care much about those since I have those for PS2 which is my dominant Platform of choice. Mobile is a joke...

 

But yeah, I use Component Cables. Composite Cables are pure sh*t and have been for the last 10 years, lol...

 

EDIT: HOLY SH1T!!!! So there is a big IN YOUR FACE difference to the Schafter from Politics and the Schafters during Gang Wars? What is it? Well, like SpriteFan274 confirmed already...The Politics Schafter is just that...A Schafter. It's not Russian. What's special? The Luster (ANY) and the EC Black Rims. The Gang War Schafter is truly a Russian Schafter with Silver Grill, meaning the Silver Grill in fact IS special in this case, unlike the Politics Schafter's Grill. All Schafters in traffic that are not Russian possess a Silver Grill, hence the Politics Schafter's Grill is not special in any way, shape, or form. The big difference in how to tell them apart other than a Black Base Color and a Black or Silver Grill is the actual BUMPER, underneath the Grill! I just obtained a Lustered Russian Schafter with Silver Grill and noticed the Bumper is hugely different to that of what you get in Politics. So in other words, both Vehicles are "Schafters," but one is Russian and the other isn't. The models are completely different making BOTH of them special and not the SAME. So forget what I said before about the Lusters possibly being not real since some Lusters spawn in Gang Wars. The thing is, they are NOT the same Vehicles, therefore ALL Lusters are special in Politics along with the EC Black Rims and the Lusters in Gang Wars along with the Silver Grill ARE special!

 

I am working on finishing up Gang Wars and getting my Rare Vehicles the next days...

 

53.94% Completion, 0 Deaths, 0 Busted, 0 Cheats, 2 Missions Failed, 0 Pay and Spray Visits, 0 Times Saved, 9:06 Total Playing Time, and 5 out of 16 Special Vehicles. Backed it up on my USB Drive.

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Yes, the Schafter from Politics is a normal Schafter, but I can't confirm the Russian Schafter just yet... I don't understand how the Russian Schafter can have a Silver Grill, doesn't the Grill define if the Schafter is normal or Russian? I thought that at first... Maybe the Variant/Variation Number is just totally different. With that confirmation we can finally put the Politics Schafter to bed and say that it's a completely Special Vehicle, not Rare at all but trully Special.

In the oncoming days I will confirm the Gang Wars Vehicles one by one... It will surely suck and be a bore and it will take ages to find a Gang Burrito there...

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Trust me, you can easily tell the difference to the Gang War Schafter...It's Front Bumper is more "pointy" and "curvy" and sticks out a bit farther from the Grill. This lower part of the Bumper isn't even present on the Schafter from Politics at all. However, this Bumper is present on RUSSIAN Schafters found in Hove Beach, only those have Black Grills and not Silver. All NORMAL Schafters in traffic have a Silver Grill and Silver Rims. But the Politics Schafter has Black Rims and a Luster. Now, the Gang War Schafter can have a Luster, but what's mainly special here other than the Luster is the actual Silver Grill since it's an actual Russian Schafter. These Schafters have the Black Poly Rims and not actual Black, like the Politics Schafter, too. So the Luster + Rims = Special Politics Schafter. The Luster (most times not Lustered at all) + Silver Grill = Special Gang War Schafter.

 

Don't worry about the Gang Burrito from Gang Wars. There is plenty more to confirm. Gang Wars are a gold mine for Rare stuff...

 

EDIT: Just went to Hove Beach to get a Russian Schafter with the usual Black Grill to compare them side by side and yeah, they are the SAME, Bumper included, other than the Silver Grill. I may scrap the EC Red Hakumai and instead get this Lustered Russian Schafter with Silver Grill from the Gang Wars. I will think about it...

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New Special (Rare) Vehicle found in Gang Wars! I don't think anyone has found what I found or if they did, they never let anyone know and I never heard anyone mention it before. But guess what I found in a Gang War and kept it? A MAFIA SENTINEL...The same ones you can find in traffic in northern Alderney where the Sultan RS spawns. But the difference? Mine has either a subtle Orange Luster or NO Luster at all, but certainly NOT the Green Luster always found on Mafia Sentinels in traffic...

 

Has anyone else ever seen the Mafia Sentinel in a Gang War? I got it during a Cruising War with the Mafia and it showed up as backup and I couldn't believe it when I saw it since it's unheard of until now. This was on Gang War 14, so it can probably spawn any time. During the Gang War, the Cruising Vehicles were regular Sentinels and PMP 600's, all with a Luster, of course, but then a random Black Mafia Sentinel appeared with an Orange Luster or no Luster at all, it's very hard to tell, but side by side the traffic Mafia Sentinels you can clearly see it's not normal...

 

You'll see it when I post the Photos to the 2nd Save in the coming days. I am reloading a lot during Gang Wars cuz I want specific ones and the ones I want are hard to get or hard to find. That is why it's taking a bit longer. Like, I want the EC Futo GT instead of the regular EC Red Futo, but it may never spawn. These things take time. I got the NE Mule, though. I had the EC Red Hybrid Packer, as well, but it got destroyed before I could drive it to a Parking Space and try blowing it up and restoring it.

 

EDIT: More info on the Schafters in Gang Wars...So apparently I was wrong and a Russian Schafter with Silver Grill can spawn and it never has a Luster OR a regular Schafter can spawn that HAS a Luster, however, it's always the SAME Luster. You can clearly tell the difference in terms of the Schafters by the shape and appearance of the Bumper underneath the Grill.

 

EDIT 2: So it turns out the Mafia Sentinel I got from Gang Wars is NOT special in the slightest. You can get the Colors from Pay and Spray. Here is my Mafia Sentinel pared up to the ONLY traffic Mafia Sentinel in the game and also paired up with a Mafia Sentinel I took into a Pay and Spray until it gave me the same Colors I have on the one I got in a Gang War. As you can see, it's an identical match, thus not special, thus I won't keep it.

 

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Argh...Looking at my Photos...Now it looks like it IS special?! My eyes are straining and my head is playing tricks on me... :facedesk::facedesk:

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LUSTERED STRETCH IS NOT SPECIAL!

Stretch from Diamonds in the Rough:

Black - 0
Black - 0
Silver Stone Poly - 8 (confirmed from RGB)
Black - 0

Stretch from Traffic:

Black - 0
Black - 0
Silver Stone Poly - 8 (confirmed from RGB)
Black - 0

stretch - 0,0,8, 1,1,12, 113,113,113, 16,16,76, 9,9,91, 15,15,93, 19,19,93, 13,13,80, 0,0,1


This is pure bullsh*t. This and the Black Oracle are both complete bullcrap...
Let me get this straight, first of all, I respect you Lancet for making these Guides on GameFAQs and for the hard work... But if people report about stuff being not Special, why not check it immediately, instead of waiting 7 years for someone to prove that it's false... It's not like Hazard's Save Editor was made yesterday so you can't check... ANYONE can check, but who wants to do it? People say how easy it is to confirm Vehicles with Save Editors, but why do you guys don't do it then? I agree, it's easy... But why not do it yourself?

But still, don't get me wrong, HUGE RESPECT to you Lancet for the hard work and that this Guide is based on yours, but stuff has to be confirmed once and for ALL.

Carcols and Save Editor has 2 Color with the Same Name called "Silver Stone Poly" which are ID 4 and ID 8... From the RGB that I checked with Paint I see that it's the ID 8... 2 Color Names same, but different RGB... The RGB for ID 8 is 165,169,167.

About the Mafia Sentinel That's a huge discovery for a Rare Vehicle! Nobody before has ever documented finding it, only the normal Sentinels in Gang Wars.

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...Well, the Guide isn't going to be "based" on his sooner or later, since you'll debunk most of his claims, anyways. To be honest, the Guides here on the Forum are going somewhere and somewhere fast if you keep doing what you're doing. He had 7-8 years so you can step into the spotlight now and prove/disprove all the stuff being talked about nearly for the past decade. I am seriously disgusted at this point. I do a Save all the time for either TLaD or TBoGT, only to later find out that something is complete bullsh*t and these somethings have literally been talked about for the last 7-8 years!!! People never stopped to question what they were wasting their time on obtaining would be complete nonsense? That's what I started doing a couple years ago in the HD Era. When you start to question it, you can see for yourself that all the "Special Vehicles" are based on educated guesses and not actual proof, like you're working on now, one by one. Thankfully, you're doing this, so when I have to YET AGAIN redo all of this stuff for TLaD, I will have definitive proof on what is special or not and can truly finish the Saves with the TRUE Special Vehicles rather than just guessing what is special...

 

Yeah, I know...But now that this has happened, I am just going to delete the 2nd Save I was working on and back to the drawing board I go to make a NEW PLAN and start over the 1st Save File yet again. This is going to be my 6th and a half times through TLaD...Half since I am half done with my current 2nd Save File, but won't continue with it at all...

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That's cool, there's only 14 spots in my game and I didn't really like the Stretch anyway. Thanks for looking into this.

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Let me see how much of the Guide is confirmed by now:

EC Magenta Diabolus - TRUE!
EC Crimson and Yellow Diabolus - TRUE!
EC Black Gang Burrito - TRUE! (though Rare as I saw the same one from Gang Wars, exactly same, will update with my Gang Wars findings later)
Unique Yankee2 - TRUE! Not EC of course...
Lustered Black Schafter with EC Black Rims - TRUE! Only need a full list of possible Lusters...
EC Sky Blue Rhapsody - TRUE!
EC Black Diabolus - TRUE!
Unique Prison Bus - TRUE! Not EC of course...

Only things that I need to confirm are:

EC on Roman's Taxi, Laundromat Colors, Regina Colors (not needed as it's a Unique Vehicle), EC Zombie, EC PMP 600 wHG, EC PMP 600 wHG, Unique/EC/Lustered Laundromat, Lustered Turismo, EC Bati 800, EC Wolfsbane, EC Nightblade, EC Huntley Sport, Unique/EC Infernus (must be truly EC anyways), EC Habanero, EC Cognoscenti (I kind of doubt this one)

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Well, here is the 16 I will get in now the REMAKE of the 1st Save, which I literally finished 7 days (1 week) ago:

 

EC Diabolus, Lustered Schafter with EC Rims, EC Rhapsody, Unique Regina, EC Mafia PMP 600 with Hybrid Grill, Unique/EC/Lustered Laundromat, Unique Prison Bus, Lustered Turismo, EC Bati 800, EC Nightblade, EC Wolfsbane, EC Huntley Sport, Unique/EC Infernus, EC Habanero, EC Cognoscenti, NE Dukes

 

You'll need to confirm a good amount of these in the coming days. The good news is, only the first THREE Special Vehicles you see in this List will be obtained quickly...Like tomorrow, on the first day of playing again. Since I will need to stop at that point and yet again do Bike Thefts, Bike Races, and then 50 Gang Wars. The Gang Wars, as usual takes a while to do all 50, HOWEVER, for the 1st Save, I obviously don't care about any Rare Vehicles from Gang Wars, only the one time only Special Vehicles get obtained in my 1st Save for this game. So while I work on this stuff over the next 4-5 days, you really need to check into the Lustered Turismo, EC Bati 800, EC Nightblade, EC Wolfsbane, EC Huntley Sport, EC Habanero, and EC Cognoscenti. The rest are confirmed and no-brainers due to being Unique, in general...

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EC White and Black Sentinel in Phone Ho! - New Special Vehicle

https://imgur.com/a/RxxzM

The one on the Parking Spot is the EC Sentinel, the one which isn't on the Parking Spot is a Traffic Sentinel.

Phone Ho! Sentinel:

White - 112
Black - 0
Astra Silver Poly - 12 OR Med.Sapphire Blue Poly - 77 (changable Lusters)
Black - 0

Traffic Sentinel:

Astra Silver Poly - 12
Black Poly - 1
Astra Silver Poly - 12
Black - 0

sentinel - 0,1,50, 0,1,1, 0,133,1, 7,1,12, 12,1,12, 19,133,19, 34,1,45, 31,133,30, 38,133,34, 52,133,56, 68,133,103, 71,133,103, 77,133,77, 85,133,77, 106,103,90


As you can see, Traffic Defaults don't have the 112, 0, 12 Sentinel... Thus it's EC. There is a very subtle difference between the Whites of the two Sentinels, but the Rims are very Special. Traffic one has Black Poly Rims, meanwhile the EC Sentinel has BLACK Rims.

Well, this is my very first Special Vehicle Discovery in a GTA Game... Cool.

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Moving right along...

 

I just passed "This sh*t's Cursed" and now have the EC Crimson Diabolus, Lustered Schafter with EC Black Rims, and EC Sky Blue Rhapsody so far. More to come, but first will do Bike Thefts, Bike Races, and 50 Gang Wars before doing anything else. Stubbs' Dirty Laundry as well as Dave Grossman's Random Encounter are unlocked, but waiting for more to be confirmed and such. So in the meantime, I will do Bike Thefts, Races, and Gang Wars...

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WHAT THE f*ck TLAD???????????????????

Check this out....

Wolfsbane from Malc 1

Desert Red - 33
Black - 0
Winning Silver Poly - 5
Black - 0
wolfsbane - 33,0,5, 0,0,112, 52,0,52, 68,0,69, 113,0,113, 102,0,103
Nightblade from Malc 1
Dk.Sapphire Blue Poly - 85
Black - 0
Bright Blue Poly - 82
Black - 0
nightblade - 85,0,82, 0,0,113, 3,0,113, 41,41,41, 54,54,55, 39,0,113


Carcolors says they're not EC.... But they are EC!

What I say doesn't make sense, right? Of course.... Because this game doesn't make sense. I got the Wolfsbane and Nightblade and checked their via Save Editor. They're not not EC says the Save Editor. BUT! The Traffic Spawning and Pay and Spray say otherwise.

When I put the Wolfsbane into Pay and Spray I got 5 Colors (5 Colors from 6 Carcols which are not the Red one) IN AN ORDER!!! Brown, Black, Blue, Light Blue, White... That means if I had the Black Wolfsbane and put it into PnS, it will 10000000000%-ly give me the Blue one.


I doubted the Save Editor once, now I doubt this whole Game and Pay and Spray. I also can't find the Red Wolfsbane during Traffic anywhere, only the other sh*t-Colored ones...

Technically, they're EC. Practically, they're not EC.


BIG EDIT: I've made a topic regarding this Pay and Spray and Bike Colors thing, and thanks to B Dawg I can finally put these two Bikes to sleep and say that they're not EC!

Carcols says it's not EC, so why can't I ge it from PnS then? Because these Colors can only be found in Traffic driven by Gang Members (Angels of Death) near their Turf in North Algonquin.

This was really scratching my head, I couldn't understand the Logic behind this PnS thing, but now it's 100% confirmed that these Bikes are FAKE! Proof Photos will come soon.

PROOF: https://imgur.com/a/9sDTL
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Well, here is the 16 I will get in now the REMAKE of the 1st Save, which I literally finished 7 days (1 week) ago:

 

EC Diabolus, Lustered Schafter with EC Rims, EC Rhapsody, Unique Regina, EC Mafia PMP 600 with Hybrid Grill, Unique/EC/Lustered Laundromat, Unique Prison Bus, Lustered Turismo, EC Bati 800, EC Nightblade, EC Wolfsbane, EC Huntley Sport, Unique/EC Infernus, EC Habanero, EC Cognoscenti, NE Dukes

 

Nightblade and Wolfsbane are now removed from my List. Adding the newly found Sentinel and the other BLACK PMP 600 with Hybrid Grill. This is just crazy...There is literally now only 16 one time only Special Vehicles in the entire game at this point that don't cost a Mission Failure in the Stats and you still have yet to check on the Turismo. Fingers crossed it's also real, and then I can finally be at peace in my mind with this Save and all 16 on my list are truly confirmed to be special in some way, shape, or form and also with NO Mission Failures in the Stats!

 

 

Yeah, Carcols doesn't lie! :D:p

 

Awesome you confirmed these things, too! And amazing how there is a new Special Vehicle, the EC White and Lustered Sentinel with EC Black Rims!

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Sorry if I'm annoying but is the Bati 800 you get from that same side mission still legit? What about the Presidente you get before you kidnap Roman?

 

The list of special vehicles in this game keeps getting smaller lol.

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