Next DLC Speculation Thread (Part 1)

[elfoam]

If the game can have virtual torture, prostitution, murdering, etc. I don't think a little gambling could cause that much outrage surely?

You forget the difference, those things are not real. Gambling in a game where cash is tied to real cash is real gambling and would be considered so under law. I did like the post about using job points.

[Nick930930]

 

Heist is dead for now, we are all playing the waiting game. Which sucks for us.

It sucks for you. I have plenty of fun with my friends doing heists, missions and freemode events. If you don't like the game, play something else.

Adding North Yankton into online doesn't make a ton of sense. Look at the setting and weather of North Yankton. It doesn't work in Online.

 

 

Agreed, but only that bit about North Yakton. The game certainly does need more content. Me and my group of friends are also tired of heists, missions, freemode events. We played ever since it released on PC a LOT and are all very high ranks. Now that we've done it all, our group has split off into other games like The Division.

 

A new map is very necessary for this game. North Yankton is not a good map for GTAOnline. Rockstar would need to expand that map significantly to make it actually fun to play. As it stands, there's only the set buidings and roads you need for those two missions and that's it. Liberty City would be a much better choice, but even that map could use some significant tweaks to make it playable in GTAOnline.

[Retroview1955]

 

 

Why do people want a casino?. Firstly rockstar would never do it as they simply dont have confidence they can code something like that without glitches. Secondly, if they could you would all be poor. Thirdly and just for fun the outrage of introducing gambling into a game kids play where real money is involved would be outrageous, it would make publicity but very bad and on a scale rockstar couldnt deal with. It's not going to happen.

 

Are you kidding me?

 

Sit down and think about it for a day.You think about what you said for a second. If they don't have confidence in themselves, why the f*ck would even create a game?

[jdv95]

Heists are not dead,not even with randoms. The only thing that is a rather slow moving proces

Is the wait for new content be it gameplay or materialistic stuff. You know actuall NEW stuff that isn't ingame yet Benny

[Nick930930]

 

If the game can have virtual torture, prostitution, murdering, etc. I don't think a little gambling could cause that much outrage surely?

You forget the difference, those things are not real. Gambling in a game where cash is tied to real cash is real gambling and would be considered so under law. I did like the post about using job points.

 

 

You don't seem to understand how "real cash" works. Let me make this very clear for those of you who can't read.

 

Once you spend your money on "Shark Cards," that money is GONE. It is no longer "real cash" in the world of GTAOnline. It's as good as gone whether you spend it on an ingame car, on a weapon, or gamble it in a virtual casino. It's not real money. If you can't cash out your GTA$ into "real cash," then there is absolutely zero legal problems at all.

[elfoam]

 

 

Why do people want a casino?. Firstly rockstar would never do it as they simply dont have confidence they can code something like that without glitches. Secondly, if they could you would all be poor. Thirdly and just for fun the outrage of introducing gambling into a game kids play where real money is involved would be outrageous, it would make publicity but very bad and on a scale rockstar couldnt deal with. It's not going to happen.

The games an 18 for a reason: it's not for kids, therefore rockstar shouldn't have kids in mind when developing the game. As for potential parents complaining, don't buy f*cking gta for you child then.

Exactly.

 

You guys really don't get it. You've been living in a gambling tollerant country far too long. How many of those guys living under bridges thought they were in front. I told you already it'll never happen. It just wont, its way too big a can of worms, even rockstars immense thirst for cash can't overcome that one.

[Nick1020]

The only people I can see being antsy with online gambling is the folks who run Pegi and the Australian gaming board. Other than that I see no problem with it being added.

[Nutduster]

 

 

 

That's why when you're at Casinos you play smart and you stop while you're doing decent.

 

It'd work - You just gotta be smart with your cash.

And this right here is why Las Vegas exists, because people think this way.

 

I've left casinos with a tad bit more money than I went in with.

 

You gotta have your eyes and ears on alert - and have some working brains - and quit while you're doing decent.

 

That's by far the best way to do it, but you will still leave with more money than you walked in with less than half the time.

 

Over a long enough time scale the house always wins. The best odds for the player on any single bet in Vegas regardless of the game is about 49.1%. Even on games where you have a technically even chance of winning like Pai Gow Poker you still have to pay the house a percentage of wins dropping you under 48% odds. The bast majority of all bets are around 3-5% in favor of the house.

 

Then, for the 99% of the population that's bad at math you have things like Keno where the house take is north of 30%.

 

I liver in Vegas for the sake of conversation.

 

 

The only way to walk into a casino with reasonable odds to win money is to be good at poker, and go in intending to only sit down to play poker against other players. When your main competition is other players and you're better than they are, you can beat the odds (which are impacted by the rake - even there, the house gets its cut) and have a better than even chance of walking out richer. But you better be damn good at poker. Long haul odds even for a superlative hold 'em player only give you a thin edge, once the rake is subtracted; even the greats have a lot of losing sessions they have to endure in order to win in the long run.

 

If you're playing other games against the house, you are always putting yourself at a disadvantage... always (short of cheating). You may walk out a winner sometimes, but the more you play, the more likely (basically certain) it is that you've suffered a net loss overall. People who live at the slots, blackjack table, or roulette wheel are lifetime losers without fail.

[elfoam]

 

 

If the game can have virtual torture, prostitution, murdering, etc. I don't think a little gambling could cause that much outrage surely?

You forget the difference, those things are not real. Gambling in a game where cash is tied to real cash is real gambling and would be considered so under law. I did like the post about using job points.

 

 

You don't seem to understand how "real cash" works. Let me make this very clear for those of you who can't read.

 

Once you spend your money on "Shark Cards," that money is GONE. It is no longer "real cash" in the world of GTAOnline. It's as good as gone whether you spend it on an ingame car, on a weapon, or gamble it in a virtual casino. It's not real money. If you can't cash out your GTA$ into "real cash," then there is absolutely zero legal problems at all.

 

So get back to me when your gta casino arrives :] Mr no problem. (maybe not in a few countries, this is a global game pretty much).

[Nick930930]

 

 

 

If the game can have virtual torture, prostitution, murdering, etc. I don't think a little gambling could cause that much outrage surely?

You forget the difference, those things are not real. Gambling in a game where cash is tied to real cash is real gambling and would be considered so under law. I did like the post about using job points.

 

 

You don't seem to understand how "real cash" works. Let me make this very clear for those of you who can't read.

 

Once you spend your money on "Shark Cards," that money is GONE. It is no longer "real cash" in the world of GTAOnline. It's as good as gone whether you spend it on an ingame car, on a weapon, or gamble it in a virtual casino. It's not real money. If you can't cash out your GTA$ into "real cash," then there is absolutely zero legal problems at all.

 

So get back to me when your gta casino arrives :] Mr no problem. (maybe not in a few countries, this is a global game pretty much).

 

 

You must live inside a Kangaroo pouch... you seem to have no understanding of how any currency works. By your logic, gamers are already "Gambling" their money with shark cards. You can literally "bet" before every event in the game you simpleton.

Edited April 24, 2016 by Nick930930

[elfoam]

The only people I can see being antsy with online gambling is the folks who run Pegi and the Australian gaming board. Other than that I see no problem with it being added.

It could be added in Australia and the States, could.. For a week until it hit the media. It would be absolutely ripped apart here once the general public found out. But in most countries it wouldn't make it that far.

[BitBasher]

Great explanation BitBasher. At 49.1% most people can be convinced the are winning _no one wins_. _ever_.

Will in the short term someone can theoretically win but the odds are against it. In the long term they are screwed.

 

The problem is human brains. Confirmation bias screws us. people remember and talk about the times they win, and the times their friends won and we artificially bias ourselves to remember those positive things instead of the times we lose. This means that even when people are not winning they think they are because of the self created bias. It's not really our fault either, it's essentially a bug in our perception of the world that virtually everyone shares.

 

Unfortunately 99% of the population are horrible at math and oblivious enough to not realize the underlying mechanics of it all so they rely on their impressions of the events and ignore the actual facts.

[XenoxX]

 

 

 

 

If the game can have virtual torture, prostitution, murdering, etc. I don't think a little gambling could cause that much outrage surely?

You forget the difference, those things are not real. Gambling in a game where cash is tied to real cash is real gambling and would be considered so under law. I did like the post about using job points.

 

You don't seem to understand how "real cash" works. Let me make this very clear for those of you who can't read.

 

Once you spend your money on "Shark Cards," that money is GONE. It is no longer "real cash" in the world of GTAOnline. It's as good as gone whether you spend it on an ingame car, on a weapon, or gamble it in a virtual casino. It's not real money. If you can't cash out your GTA$ into "real cash," then there is absolutely zero legal problems at all.

 

So get back to me when your gta casino arrives :] Mr no problem. (maybe not in a few countries, this is a global game pretty much).

 

You must live inside a Kangaroo pouch... you seem to have no understanding of how any currency works. By your logic, gamers are already "Gambling" their money with shark cards. You can literally "bet" before every event in the game you simpleton.

Betting is different from a complete InGame Casino, I can tell you for a fact that an InGame Casino would need to be registered as an Online Casino in Germany, currency switching isn't related to this here.

[BitBasher]

You must live inside a Kangaroo pouch... you seem to have no understanding of how any currency works. By your logic, gamers are already "Gambling" their money with shark cards. You can literally "bet" before every event in the game you simpleton.

Legally in many places betting on a game of skill like a race is often completely different from betting on a game of chance like caps or roulette. They are not the same thing, although I can see why people would assume they were. Here in Vegas for example they are regulated very differently.

Edited April 24, 2016 by BitBasher

[eyman]

"Gambling" wouldn't be an issue, as there isn't any real money being won, it is all virtual money. There are millions of games out there that use Micro-transactions to allow players to buy in game coins/money. Rockstar is not responsible on what you spend your real money on. If an Idiot decides to complain to Rockstar or sues them, they will be wasting their time.

[Optimus primal]

 

 

 

Why do people want a casino?. Firstly rockstar would never do it as they simply dont have confidence they can code something like that without glitches. Secondly, if they could you would all be poor. Thirdly and just for fun the outrage of introducing gambling into a game kids play where real money is involved would be outrageous, it would make publicity but very bad and on a scale rockstar couldnt deal with. It's not going to happen.

1) I can code a damned random number generator that can add or subtract from a variable. Wouldn't be that hard for D* to do it. . 2) I do agree, most people would go broke. 3) This isn't a f*cking kids game. If you're buying this game for your kid you should be dropped on your head.

 

Exactly its not a kids game. that sh*t says RATED M-17+. i don't have a problem with playing with kids in a lobby as long as they have a Mature Mentality as not all are just annoying and loud squeakers that there parents leave abandoned in their room with no attention to them. I remember hearing a story on the news where some parents let their child play the game so long that they had died. i'm like wtf are some parents doing these days.

 

Its not a kids game but a TON of kids play it. You have to remember gambling is a touchy subject and illegal in many places. It does a great deal of harm no doubt about that, we all know someone thats lost a buisness, house or family to gambling.I completely agree with u. If c* does release a casino dlc it would be problematic for all. The squeakers would go and lose all their gta cash, begging mommy and daddy for continuous shark cards. Creating the 10 yr old gambler. Yes c* WILL rig it so that the odds of anyone winning will be slim to none. Also remember we had horseshoes to raise our luck (thats definitely not going to happen). Now getting into legal aspects, it is considered online gambling. Betting on races is one thing, but blackjack and poker and horse races are gambling. Now just like any website that is for gambling, they have to go through many hurdles and obstacles to get approved. What makes everyone think that rockstar is gonna open this online? Story mode definitely. Maybe even a new job for Trevor? Maybe a heist so they all have a share of it? That would definitely have people playing again. Idk just my opinion after reading all the arguing and bickering

[Mach1bud]

I like cars.

[Hunter]

I like helicopters.

[jdv95]

I like cars.

same here. well some cars that is

[BobFromReboot]

I like cars.

 

I like helicopters.

 

 

Rockstar Rockstar please deliver.

 

(sung to the tune of meow mix)

Edited April 24, 2016 by BobFromReboot

[Fezza1999]

I like trains.

[Non Funkable Token]

 

 

I take it from the poster Alvarez for the occasion

 

[XenoxX]

i like Adversary Modes

 

 

 

Way to break the mood, just joking

 

I like Free Mode Events and VIP Missions and I hope R* adds new ones and gives players a reason to play the current ones as well.

 

 

[jdv95]

i like expensive materialistic stuff i mean with every game mode you get a payout and you gotta have something to spend it on. so with every update that brings something new to the table gameplay wise,it has to include stuff to buy aswell (for me that is). free roam events where a nice addition but fell short on the latter. (again for me)

[Emu War]

@jdv95 Agreed. Give me something to spend millions on!

[XenoxX]

@jdv95 Agreed. Give me something to spend millions on!

inb4 golden faggio for 15 million.

[CarimboHanky]

 

 

 

 

Why do people want a casino?. Firstly rockstar would never do it as they simply dont have confidence they can code something like that without glitches. Secondly, if they could you would all be poor. Thirdly and just for fun the outrage of introducing gambling into a game kids play where real money is involved would be outrageous, it would make publicity but very bad and on a scale rockstar couldnt deal with. It's not going to happen.

1) I can code a damned random number generator that can add or subtract from a variable. Wouldn't be that hard for D* to do it. . 2) I do agree, most people would go broke. 3) This isn't a f*cking kids game. If you're buying this game for your kid you should be dropped on your head.

 

Exactly its not a kids game. that sh*t says RATED M-17+. i don't have a problem with playing with kids in a lobby as long as they have a Mature Mentality as not all are just annoying and loud squeakers that there parents leave abandoned in their room with no attention to them. I remember hearing a story on the news where some parents let their child play the game so long that they had died. i'm like wtf are some parents doing these days.

 

 

Its not a kids game but a TON of kids play it. You have to remember gambling is a touchy subject and illegal in many places. It does a great deal of harm no doubt about that, we all know someone thats lost a buisness, house or family to gambling.

killing is worse than gambling... so lets remove that from the game because kids play the game and its illegal worldwide, on top of that we all know someone that have been killed.

 

 

Whatever they're going to do needs to happen soon. Once Uncharted 4 hits, GTAO will literally be me and the tumbleweeds without a damned good reason for people to keep playing it...

meh people said the same about watchdogs, destiny, mgs, division, etc etc etc

 

in the mind of the people every new game is THE gtao killer yet gtao still standing.

[jdv95]

 

@jdv95 Agreed. Give me something to spend millions on!

inb4 golden faggio for 15 million.

 

well even i have limits when it comes to expensive items i found that whole golden luxor thing kinda funny in a way. when i saw the price of that plane i almost bursted out laughing. oh man thos ill gotten gains items where so good though. miss it

[agente0109]

I want to enter the LS casino playing poker! f*ck yeah

[Nick930930]

 

 

 

 

 

Why do people want a casino?. Firstly rockstar would never do it as they simply dont have confidence they can code something like that without glitches. Secondly, if they could you would all be poor. Thirdly and just for fun the outrage of introducing gambling into a game kids play where real money is involved would be outrageous, it would make publicity but very bad and on a scale rockstar couldnt deal with. It's not going to happen.

1) I can code a damned random number generator that can add or subtract from a variable. Wouldn't be that hard for D* to do it. . 2) I do agree, most people would go broke. 3) This isn't a f*cking kids game. If you're buying this game for your kid you should be dropped on your head.

 

Exactly its not a kids game. that sh*t says RATED M-17+. i don't have a problem with playing with kids in a lobby as long as they have a Mature Mentality as not all are just annoying and loud squeakers that there parents leave abandoned in their room with no attention to them. I remember hearing a story on the news where some parents let their child play the game so long that they had died. i'm like wtf are some parents doing these days.

 

 

Its not a kids game but a TON of kids play it. You have to remember gambling is a touchy subject and illegal in many places. It does a great deal of harm no doubt about that, we all know someone thats lost a buisness, house or family to gambling.

killing is worse than gambling... so lets remove that from the game because kids play the game and its illegal worldwide, on top of that we all know someone that have been killed.

 

 

Whatever they're going to do needs to happen soon. Once Uncharted 4 hits, GTAO will literally be me and the tumbleweeds without a damned good reason for people to keep playing it...

meh people said the same about watchdogs, destiny, mgs, division, etc etc etc

 

in the mind of the people every new game is THE gtao killer yet gtao still standing.

 

 

You say this... but GTAOnline has a lower player count than Battlefield 4 on PC.