Homing launcher vs jet?

[CarcerCityMadMan]

Jets are for the weak.I enjoy killing them every time i see one flying around in my session

[Godovermoney]

I've been doing a lot of strafing lately simply because all players can do these days is jag, and shoot rockets. I'm pretty good with an AR, but it seems AR battles only happen in MC's and PMC's.

[We Are Ninja]

Personally, I love the flying in the game, I just think Jets and Tanks should've been left to Missions only or left out, altogether.

Silly to have in a game about stealing cars.

Players have been stealing jets out of Fort Zancudo for ages. Grand Theft Aero. R* should have made them much harder to acquire, and never made the Hydra a Pegasus vehicle.

 

 

...Unfortunately 90% of players can't even begin to do what you did in that clip. I know, I know, "git gud." The bulk of the player base CAN'T get good enough to destroy a jet from the ground. It's just unrealistic to even ask it.

It always amuses me to hear "git gud" from players that rely, almost exclusively, on the most egregiously OP weapon in the entire game to get their kills.

Edited June 23, 2016 by We Are Ninja

[Nutduster]

 

...Unfortunately 90% of players can't even begin to do what you did in that clip. I know, I know, "git gud." The bulk of the player base CAN'T get good enough to destroy a jet from the ground. It's just unrealistic to even ask it.

It always amuses me to hear "get gud" from player that rely, almost exclusively, on the most egregiously OP weapon in the game to get their kills.

 

 

Yes, it's a delightful irony, alright. It also is a ridiculous thing to say to anyone who isn't strictly a free roam warrior. I can ALMOST understand that as a response to someone who is doing nothing in the session but killing. But if you're doing CEO or VIP work, or selling cars, or doing free roam events, or just goofing off... how are you ever going to get good enough to prevent a jet from ruining your fun? None of the clowns saying that would be any better than anyone else at completing those activities when a jet is hell-bent on stopping them. You might be good enough to kill a jet before it kills you 3+ times (and if you are, good for you, because you're a rare bird). But no one's good enough to make a box truck full of crates anything other than a sitting duck to a flying, explosives-laden war machine.

[badnews]

 

 

...Unfortunately 90% of players can't even begin to do what you did in that clip. I know, I know, "git gud." The bulk of the player base CAN'T get good enough to destroy a jet from the ground. It's just unrealistic to even ask it.

It always amuses me to hear "get gud" from player that rely, almost exclusively, on the most egregiously OP weapon in the game to get their kills.

 

 

Yes, it's a delightful irony, alright. It also is a ridiculous thing to say to anyone who isn't strictly a free roam warrior. I can ALMOST understand that as a response to someone who is doing nothing in the session but killing. But if you're doing CEO or VIP work, or selling cars, or doing free roam events, or just goofing off... how are you ever going to get good enough to prevent a jet from ruining your fun? None of the clowns saying that would be any better than anyone else at completing those activities when a jet is hell-bent on stopping them. You might be good enough to kill a jet before it kills you 3+ times (and if you are, good for you, because you're a rare bird). But no one's good enough to make a box truck full of crates anything other than a sitting duck to a flying, explosives-laden war machine.

 

 

Well coordinated associates and proper use of ghost organisation avoids this problem completely. Theres a maximum of 3 crates to pick up and you can have 4 members (including you), so you could have three on crates and one in your own jet for backup, get the crate collectors to grab the 3 crates at the same time and then activate ghost organisation just before the tracker signal goes live. Then spend afew minutes 4 on 1 against the jet that had planned to destroy your crate, rinse and repeat for $$$$.

Edited June 23, 2016 by badnews

[CarimboHanky]

Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time.

theres currently a bug in the game affecting the jets...

 

many times when a player lock onto the jet with the homing launcher, the jet pilot wont get the lock on warning sound, which result in him not starting evasive maneuverings, the jet still can outrun homing missiles but its harder when you dont know it coming for you.

[afriendlyreddot]

I'd imagine that since I can still dodge HL rockets with my Vestra that it has not changed much, that above mentioned bug however seems like a plausible cause.

 

- Continues stats homework until death overcomes -_-

[l Marksman God l]

Wow, another jet thread, what a surprise!

[Aether]

Wow, another jet thread, what a surprise!

 

Forum post is made about mlg straffers killing people.

Tell them to get good they ask how.

Show them a video how, they claim its not legit.

Forum post is made....

 

 

It will never end.

[StangOne50]

 

Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time.

theres currently a bug in the game affecting the jets...

 

many times when a player lock onto the jet with the homing launcher, the jet pilot wont get the lock on warning sound, which result in him not starting evasive maneuverings, the jet still can outrun homing missiles but its harder when you dont know it coming for you.

 

This has happened to me on ps3 also. But I just blame lag. Sometimes you will hear the initial beep then silence. Next thing you know you are dead lol

[CarimboHanky]

 

 

Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time.

theres currently a bug in the game affecting the jets...

 

many times when a player lock onto the jet with the homing launcher, the jet pilot wont get the lock on warning sound, which result in him not starting evasive maneuverings, the jet still can outrun homing missiles but its harder when you dont know it coming for you.

 

This has happened to me on ps3 also. But I just blame lag. Sometimes you will hear the initial beep then silence. Next thing you know you are dead lolyeah sometimes is lag but the current issue also makes the missiles invisible, so even if you are watching your back you wont be able to see the missile trailing you, so you dont know someone shoot a missile at you til the impact, then its time to bail!

[We Are Ninja]

 

Wow, another jet thread, what a surprise!

Forum post is made about mlg straffers killing people.

Tell them to get good they ask how.

Show them a video how, they claim its not legit.

Forum post is made....

 

 

It will never end.

 

Be honest. What is your K/D in a jet? 25.0? Even with the RPG parlor tricks and the occasional world champion heavy sniper... Like, how often do you get shot down vs how many kills do you get? 1 to 25? 1 to 50? 1 to 100? Even the best legit ground players have K/D's of like 5 or 6. You KNOW your jet K/D is much higher, and you know it's not because of your skill.

Edited June 23, 2016 by We Are Ninja

[Tonguegirl]

Why is it always assumed pilots can't fight on the ground?

 

Because you do pussy sh*t like this.

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive.

 

If you're tearing up players on the ground in a jet but then go passive as soon as someone else comes to challenge you, you're a Ginormous Vagina

[Hunter]

Forum post is made about mlg straffers killing people.

Tell them to get good they ask how.

Show them a video how, they claim its not legit.

Forum post is made....

 

 

It will never end.

 

Meh, when I see videos of some guy RPG'ing jets, I don't claim it's not legit. I claim the pilot they've shot is no good and has messed up, which I'm absolutely right about.

 

Funny thing is, you didn't have anything to say when I showed a video of myself countering the RPG via dive bombing. Nothing at all.

 

OP didn't complain about anything anyway; this is what he said:

 

"Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time."

 

Didn't say anything like what some guys are suggesting. So there's no need to start up old BS arguments with people.

[l Marksman God l]

Be honest. What is your K/D in a jet? 25.0? Even with the RPG parlor tricks and the occasional world champion heavy sniper... Like, how often do you get shot down vs how many kills do you get? 1 to 25? 1 to 50? 1 to 100? Even the best legit ground players have K/D's of like 5 or 6. You KNOW your jet K/D is much higher, and you know it's not because of your skill.

 

Of course a good pilot would have a higher K/D, we all know that. But how often do you find one? Like 95% of jet pilots are terrible pilots and you can either RPG them or snipe their jets until it smokes, he won't get that many kills, I rareely see good pilots in freemode.

[saintsrow]

 

Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time.

theres currently a bug in the game affecting the jets...

 

many times when a player lock onto the jet with the homing launcher, the jet pilot wont get the lock on warning sound, which result in him not starting evasive maneuverings, the jet still can outrun homing missiles but its harder when you dont know it coming for you.

 

If only that bug were reliable and permanent -- it would be nice equalizer. So satisfying.

 

But, in my experience with the Homing Launcher, the damn thing can't even successfully track a moving truck on the freeway, let alone a jet. And the damn lock-on takes 5 seconds, during which it usually drops lock anyway, plus I'm out of cover for that whole time, and almost always get killed. In my opinion, the HL is a worthless piece of sh*t.

[IamHere4371]

 

 

Wow, another jet thread, what a surprise!

Forum post is made about mlg straffers killing people.

Tell them to get good they ask how.

Show them a video how, they claim its not legit.

Forum post is made....

 

 

It will never end.

 

Be honest. What is your K/D in a jet? 25.0? Even with the RPG parlor tricks and the occasional world champion heavy sniper... Like, how often do you get shot down vs how many kills do you get? 1 to 25? 1 to 50? 1 to 100? Even the best legit ground players have K/D's of like 5 or 6. You KNOW your jet K/D is much higher, and you know it's not because of your skill.

 

You have to manage 6 buttons in a jet as opposed to 2(aim and shoot) in auto aim lobbies. I believe that takes some sort of skill.

[Taintedsoul_x]

It's easy to dodge the homing launcher although the nonstop spam and annoying beeping noise gets annoying.

The jets you managed to get are probably imbeciles that can fly great.

[Aether]

 

 

Wow, another jet thread, what a surprise!

Forum post is made about mlg straffers killing people.

Tell them to get good they ask how.

Show them a video how, they claim its not legit.

Forum post is made....

 

 

It will never end.

 

Be honest. What is your K/D in a jet? 25.0? Even with the RPG parlor tricks and the occasional world champion heavy sniper... Like, how often do you get shot down vs how many kills do you get? 1 to 25? 1 to 50? 1 to 100? Even the best legit ground players have K/D's of like 5 or 6. You KNOW your jet K/D is much higher, and you know it's not because of your skill.

 

 

 

Be honest. What is your K/D in a jet? 25.0? Even with the RPG parlor tricks and the occasional world champion heavy sniper... Like, how often do you get shot down vs how many kills do you get? 1 to 25? 1 to 50? 1 to 100? Even the best legit ground players have K/D's of like 5 or 6. You KNOW your jet K/D is much higher, and you know it's not because of your skill.

 

Of course a good pilot would have a higher K/D, we all know that. But how often do you find one? Like 95% of jet pilots are terrible pilots and you can either RPG them or snipe their jets until it smokes, he won't get that many kills, I rareely see good pilots in freemode.

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, another jet thread, what a surprise!

Forum post is made about mlg straffers killing people.

Tell them to get good they ask how.

Show them a video how, they claim its not legit.

Forum post is made....

 

 

It will never end.

 

Be honest. What is your K/D in a jet? 25.0? Even with the RPG parlor tricks and the occasional world champion heavy sniper... Like, how often do you get shot down vs how many kills do you get? 1 to 25? 1 to 50? 1 to 100? Even the best legit ground players have K/D's of like 5 or 6. You KNOW your jet K/D is much higher, and you know it's not because of your skill.

 

You have to manage 6 buttons in a jet as opposed to 2(aim and shoot) in auto aim lobbies. I believe that takes some sort of skill.

 

 

 

I have about twenty six thousand combined kills in a Lazer. Twenty three thousand of those killed from the cannons, Three thousand missile kills. This is a rough estimate.

 

About a 5.25 K/D.. but I also hardly ever employ my guns on ground targets. It is not entertaining to me.

 

The real skill comes from taking on another seasoned dogfighter(we don't mess with ground targets unless provoked). Those free-roaming lobby noob pilots that you seem to be dealing with give us a REALLY bad name.

 

In fact, if you're on the xbox one add me. My gamertag is "Aether." If you have issues with mlg straffers invite me and I'll have them wiped out.

Edited June 23, 2016 by Tempest

[MaleTiger]

 

Why is it always assumed pilots can't fight on the ground?

Because you do pussy sh*t like this.

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive.

If you're tearing up players on the ground in a jet but then go passive as soon as someone else comes to challenge you, you're a Ginormous Vagina

Are you stupid? I clearly only go passive when I'm on the ground and a jet is coming towards me.....

[Nutduster]

 

 

Yes, it's a delightful irony, alright. It also is a ridiculous thing to say to anyone who isn't strictly a free roam warrior. I can ALMOST understand that as a response to someone who is doing nothing in the session but killing. But if you're doing CEO or VIP work, or selling cars, or doing free roam events, or just goofing off... how are you ever going to get good enough to prevent a jet from ruining your fun? None of the clowns saying that would be any better than anyone else at completing those activities when a jet is hell-bent on stopping them. You might be good enough to kill a jet before it kills you 3+ times (and if you are, good for you, because you're a rare bird). But no one's good enough to make a box truck full of crates anything other than a sitting duck to a flying, explosives-laden war machine.

 

Well coordinated associates and proper use of ghost organisation avoids this problem completely. Theres a maximum of 3 crates to pick up and you can have 4 members (including you), so you could have three on crates and one in your own jet for backup, get the crate collectors to grab the 3 crates at the same time and then activate ghost organisation just before the tracker signal goes live. Then spend afew minutes 4 on 1 against the jet that had planned to destroy your crate, rinse and repeat for $$$$.

Ghost org costs a fortune and negates most of your profits if you use it on every crate run. I only use it to win free roam battles, and seldom do that.

Edited June 23, 2016 by Nutduster

[Tonguegirl]

 

 

Why is it always assumed pilots can't fight on the ground?

Because you do pussy sh*t like this.

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive.

If you're tearing up players on the ground in a jet but then go passive as soon as someone else comes to challenge you, you're a Ginormous Vagina

Are you stupid? I clearly only go passive when I'm on the ground and a jet is coming towards me.....

 

 

LOL, sorry. You weren't exactly clear with what you meant. My point still stands though, there are a few jet griefers out there who have given people the impression that anyone who uses a jet is useless on the ground. those players are the ones who go passive as soon as they crash or get taken down and go get another jet.

 

Apologies for the upset, and no I'm not stupid, I'm special

Edited June 23, 2016 by Tonguegirl

[MaleTiger]

 

 

 

Why is it always assumed pilots can't fight on the ground?

Because you do pussy sh*t like this.

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive.

If you're tearing up players on the ground in a jet but then go passive as soon as someone else comes to challenge you, you're a Ginormous Vagina

Are you stupid? I clearly only go passive when I'm on the ground and a jet is coming towards me.....

 

LOL, sorry. You weren't exactly clear with what you meant. My point still stands though, there are a few jet griefers out there who have given people the impression that anyone who uses a jet is useless on the ground. those players are the ones who go passive as soon as they crash or get taken down and go get another jet.

 

Apologies for the upset, and no I'm not stupid, I'm special

Haha you took that one well and yeah jet griefers think they're unstoppable. Until they're out of the sky, some people will just not play without a tank or jet

[reventer]

 

 

 

 

Why is it always assumed pilots can't fight on the ground?

Because you do pussy sh*t like this.

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive.

If you're tearing up players on the ground in a jet but then go passive as soon as someone else comes to challenge you, you're a Ginormous Vagina

Are you stupid? I clearly only go passive when I'm on the ground and a jet is coming towards me.....

 

LOL, sorry. You weren't exactly clear with what you meant. My point still stands though, there are a few jet griefers out there who have given people the impression that anyone who uses a jet is useless on the ground. those players are the ones who go passive as soon as they crash or get taken down and go get another jet.

 

Apologies for the upset, and no I'm not stupid, I'm special

Haha you took that one well and yeah jet griefers think they're unstoppable. Until they're out of the sky, some people will just not play without a tank or jet

but there are a few people who want to go on police rampages and mind their own business not to grief.

 

The cruel Homing Launcher has no mercy.

[We Are Ninja]

Of course a good pilot would have a higher K/D, we all know that. But how often do you find one? Like 95% of jet pilots are terrible pilots and you can either RPG them or snipe their jets until it smokes, he won't get that many kills, I rareely see good pilots in freemode.

LOL. Any pilot would have a higher jet K/D. He'd have to be the rawest, hottest garbage not to.

 

 

You have to manage 6 buttons in a jet as opposed to 2(aim and shoot) in auto aim lobbies. I believe that takes some sort of skill.

Right. Because aiming down and spamming fire is difficult. You literally only have to land one of your rapid fire, exploding rounds near your target and it's a kill, LOL.

 

 

I have about twenty six thousand combined kills in a Lazer. Twenty three thousand of those killed from the cannons, Three thousand missile kills. This is a rough estimate.

 

About a 5.25 K/D.. but I also hardly ever employ my guns on ground targets. It is not entertaining to me.

 

The real skill comes from taking on another seasoned dogfighter(we don't mess with ground targets unless provoked). Those free-roaming lobby noob pilots that you seem to be dealing with give us a REALLY bad name.

 

In fact, if you're on the xbox one add me. My gamertag is "Aether." If you have issues with mlg straffers invite me and I'll have them wiped out.

I kinda commend your change of heart. But I don't mean your overall K/D. I mean solely in jets. You can estimate. How many people have you killed in comparison to the number of people that have killed you. Within those 23k explosive cannon kills was anyone able to actually kill you?

 

 

 

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive.

If you're tearing up players on the ground in a jet but then go passive as soon as someone else comes to challenge you, you're a Ginormous Vagina

 

Are you stupid? I clearly only go passive when I'm on the ground and a jet is coming towards me.....

 

Why?

[Razgriz67]

 

Of course a good pilot would have a higher K/D, we all know that. But how often do you find one? Like 95% of jet pilots are terrible pilots and you can either RPG them or snipe their jets until it smokes, he won't get that many kills, I rareely see good pilots in freemode.

LOL. Any pilot would have a higher jet K/D. He'd have to be the rawest, hottest garbage not to.

 

You have to manage 6 buttons in a jet as opposed to 2(aim and shoot) in auto aim lobbies. I believe that takes some sort of skill.

Right. Because aiming down and spamming fire is difficult. You literally only have to land one of your rapid fire, exploding rounds near your target and it's a kill, LOL.

 

I mean if one where to be exclusively a Greifer and started AFTER the heist update, sure I'd might agree on higher KD but if one were to play since day one then theres a lot of time to set ones KD near 1 with it taking a while to budge since the VIP update (since thats when most people decided to become griefers)

 

and you would be amazed how much difficulty some people have being able to pinpoint their target on the ground while in a jet to even be able to hit near them. while on the ground the game helps you a lot more to get a lock on and actually be able to hit the person

Edited June 24, 2016 by razgriz67

[l Marksman God l]

 

Of course a good pilot would have a higher K/D, we all know that. But how often do you find one? Like 95% of jet pilots are terrible pilots and you can either RPG them or snipe their jets until it smokes, he won't get that many kills, I rareely see good pilots in freemode.

LOL. Any pilot would have a higher jet K/D. He'd have to be the rawest, hottest garbage not to.

 

No dude, you're wrong. Most pilots are really garbage that don't even know what they are doing; you won't die by them if you play your cards right, specially if you're in the middle of the city. And why do you even care about K/D?

[reventer]

 

 

Of course a good pilot would have a higher K/D, we all know that. But how often do you find one? Like 95% of jet pilots are terrible pilots and you can either RPG them or snipe their jets until it smokes, he won't get that many kills, I rareely see good pilots in freemode.

 

LOL. Any pilot would have a higher jet K/D. He'd have to be the rawest, hottest garbage not to.

 

No dude, you're wrong. Most pilots are really garbage that don't even know what they are doing; you won't die by them if you play your cards right, specially if you're in the middle of the city. And why do you even care about K/D?

 

Best way to get those griefers to crash is hide in the underground tunnels which on the minimap overlap with roads making it look like you're invisible and they'll keep circling there around the skyscrapers, crash, or get taken down by some other player because you distracted the pilot. Edited June 24, 2016 by reventer

[Terrorista310]

even with lazer they can catch you, so ye, they gain some speed for sure

[We Are Ninja]

...And why do you even care about K/D?

Generally speaking, I don't. My point, however, was that a player in a jet has ridiculously high K/D in a jet. Not his overall K/D. I'm not talking about the one that your in-game profile shows. I mean, if you had to make an honest approximation, how many on-ground players have you killed while you were in a jet? And, how many times have you actually been killed by on-ground players while you were in a jet? Compare those two approximate numbers. One is easily twenty times higher than the other. The amount of kills you can rack up with a jet compared to the number of times that on-ground players are actually able to kill you while you're in a jet is extremely lopsided. If a game component allows for a statistical discrepancy THAT massive, then the game has serious balance issues.

Edited June 24, 2016 by We Are Ninja