Homing launcher vs jet?

[gravik]

Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time.

[Nick930930]

I've been able to dodge homing rocket shots in my chopper. The homing rocket seems very hit or miss. I found shooting jets down with the heavy sniper to be way more effective.

[Sky_Light12]

perhaps after few updates upon its introduction , it has been toned down

 

so its less effective aganist proficent pilots , but good enough to " make a fool of them " beliving i was going to shoot them with HL

[AUScowboy]

Working on a Hydra puss take down compilation ATM. Mostly Savage and Heavy sniper kills, but a few tricky HL take downs too. Nothing more gratifying than forcing them into passive or suicide... Not so fast, mr. i love most OP vehicle in the game because i'm too lazy to develop legit skills!

 

OT: Yes, SOMETHING feels a bit off/broken.

Edited June 23, 2016 by AUScowboy

[OBeef619]

Banking left or right in a circle doesn't work anymore?

[Shadowfennekin]

Circling still works. I was in a jet to defend my cargo being delivered and one of the people tried the Homing Launcher. Outsped all the missiles.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

I feel like jets shoud get their own subforum...jeezes...

[MikeyDLuffy]

Why is it always assumed pilots can't fight on the ground?

[Razgriz67]

Why is it always assumed pilots can't fight on the ground?

 

Probably from the Griefers that are exclusively in Passive when not in a jet.

 

 

And to help answer the question Gravik are you taking into account that most people now a days fly the slower Hydra that spawns everywhere compared to the faster Lazer that you have to go steal from the base?

[badnews]

Anyone with even mediocre jet skills can easily dodge a homing launcher by going in circles, you can spot a typical jet pussy because they dont even switch the direction of the circle. Its easily countered by firing a little ahead of the jet while it circles, use the homing launcher but fire before it locks on, aslong as you judge the distance correctly you can use one rocket to chase the pussy into the non-locked one.

Edited June 23, 2016 by badnews

[Mach1bud]

Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time.

Nah they have been the same for a while. The homing launcher was actually slightly nerfed once, that's it.

 

You have just been getting lucky.

[Pedinhuh]

Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time.

Far as I'm aware the top speed of the homing rockets were always faster than the jet's, there's no way to outrun it.

 

Maybe your issue is with evading it? try loops, sharp turns and banking left and right(I believe barrel rolls doesn't work). If that's not working then probably some one is lagging, either you or the guy who fired the rocket at ya.

[badnews]

 

Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time.

Far as I'm aware the top speed of the homing rockets were always faster than the jet's, there's no way to outrun it.

 

Maybe your issue is with evading it? try loops, sharp turns and banking left and right(I believe barrel rolls doesn't work). If that's not working then probably some one is lagging, either you or the guy who fired the rocket at ya.

 

 

I think you misunderstood, he is not the jet pussy, he was wondering why he has been able to shoot more of the jet pussies down than usual. He must be getting good

[Mattoropael]

 

Just curious. Has the homing launcher been sped up or the jets been slowed down? Jets used to be able to get away from the hominbg launcher no problem. Now I can shoot them down every time.

Far as I'm aware the top speed of the homing rockets were always faster than the jet's, there's no way to outrun it.

 

Maybe your issue is with evading it? try loops, sharp turns and banking left and right(I believe barrel rolls doesn't work). If that's not working then probably some one is lagging, either you or the guy who fired the rocket at ya.

 

 

The missile is equal in speed or even a bit slower than a jet when it is turning. It will explode harmlessly before it can reach the jet.

 

Barrel rolls seem to have ceased being effective around the Executive Update. I haven't been able to reliably pull that one off since then.

Edited June 23, 2016 by Mattoropael

[Hunter]

I don't think its had anything done lately. I haven't been in a jet much since the update, but the few times I have, I dodged them as easily as I ever did. Which is pretty easy.

 

The only documented adjustment there's ever been was around the heists update - nerfed reload speed, fire rate, and additional armour to vehicles like the Cargobob.

 

Other than that, well some have said there could have been a nerf in the very early days, but its yet to have been conclusively proven.

 

And at any rate, I still used to dodge them back then in a jet, so if it ever was changed, it couldn't have been enough to make it useful against jets or stop it being useful against them. The end result is the same as its always been:

 

• Jets dodge them easily.

 

• Helicopters have a hard time with them.

[xCarlaP_x]

I wondered this last night because me and another player were taking down a couple of jets with the homing launcher pretty easily. Normally I never hit one.

[HeavyDuke]

Working on a Hydra puss take down compilation ATM. Mostly Savage and Heavy sniper kills, but a few tricky HL take downs too. Nothing more gratifying than forcing them into passive or suicide... Not so fast, mr. i love most OP vehicle in the game because i'm too lazy to develop legit skills!

 

OT: Yes, SOMETHING feels a bit off/broken.

A vehicle is a tool, you using any kind of weapon makes you as lazy as the next person in a aircraft or armored land vehicle.

[FlacidJack]

I think there's just more bad pilots than before.

[MaleTiger]

When I'm in a jet it's literally impossible for anyone to hit me with a missile.

 

Anyone that aims a missile gives away their position cos sometimes you think "Wow where is he" and then the bright spark flies towards you so I dive bomb people with the cannon.

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive. Don't waste your time, anyone good in a jet will not be taken by a missile

[Furry_Monkey]

Some guys sent at least 10 rockets my way last night and not one even made it onto my screen. Nothing has changed.

[Gridl0k]

If there's a jet on me, I go passive.

 

Figures.

[fw3]

I dunno, last night I tried taking one down with the HL with no luck. He kept circling in the sky.

 

What finally got him was a fairly lucky right-up-his-nose-with-a-minigun when he dove in to cannon blast me.

I shot the nose of his jet just enough to cause him to crash (not sure if he crashed on his own or because of the minigun, but gratifying either way!).

Personally, I love the flying in the game, I just think Jets and Tanks should've been left to Missions only or left out, altogether.

Silly to have in a game about stealing cars.

[MaleTiger]

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive.

Figures.

So I should just let it keep strafing me right Edited June 23, 2016 by MaleTiger

[bigraj]

I think there's just more bad pilots than before.

 

There could be something to that. I've been trying to get more flight time in to improve, but I still get shot down pretty easily. I'd imagine as more and more players get larger bank accounts, many of them are also buying Hydras and are testing them out.

 

Despite not being a decent pilot yet, I've gotten pretty good at shooting down Hydras with my heavy sniper. Lately, I'm not even firing homing rockets at them first.

[Gridl0k]

I thought you were talking about when you were in a jet, because you started your post "When I'm in a jet".

 

On the ground the RPG and good use of cover works fine for me. I only go passive if they've got me in the open and they're good enough to know how not to get an RPG in the face (ie attack straight down).

 

Combined with HL and Heavy Sniper nobody should die more than 2 or 3 times vs a jet, on foot.

 

Edited June 23, 2016 by Gridl0k

[Nutduster]

When I'm in a jet it's literally impossible for anyone to hit me with a missile.

 

Anyone that aims a missile gives away their position cos sometimes you think "Wow where is he" and then the bright spark flies towards you so I dive bomb people with the cannon.

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive. Don't waste your time, anyone good in a jet will not be taken by a missile

 

The jet problem in a nutshell. "When I'm in a jet I feel all-powerful, and when I am not in a jet, I just turn on the invincible button so I won't die to someone else's jet. But hey, jets are fine and balanced, no need to change anything - hey, look over there! *runs away*"

 

On the ground the RPG and good use of cover works fine for me. I only go passive if they've got me in the open and they're good enough to know how not to get an RPG in the face (ie attack straight down).

 

Combined with HL and Heavy Sniper nobody should die more than 2 or 3 times vs a jet, on foot.

 

 

Unfortunately 90% of players can't even begin to do what you did in that clip. I know, I know, "git gud." The bulk of the player base CAN'T get good enough to destroy a jet from the ground. It's just unrealistic to even ask it.

Edited June 23, 2016 by Nutduster

[MaleTiger]

 

When I'm in a jet it's literally impossible for anyone to hit me with a missile.

 

Anyone that aims a missile gives away their position cos sometimes you think "Wow where is he" and then the bright spark flies towards you so I dive bomb people with the cannon.

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive. Don't waste your time, anyone good in a jet will not be taken by a missile

The jet problem in a nutshell. "When I'm in a jet I feel all-powerful, and when I am not in a jet, I just turn on the invincible button so I won't die to someone else's jet. But hey, jets are fine and balanced, no need to change anything - hey, look over there! *runs away*"

I rarely use my jet. But if someone has one I'm not gonna just keep getting killed.....I'm better on the ground than in the air anyway.

 

My comments is here becauseeeee...IT'S A JET DISCUSSION -_-

[Gridl0k]

Unfortunately 90% of players can't even begin to do what you did in that clip. I know, I know, "git gud." The bulk of the player base CAN'T get good enough to destroy a jet from the ground. It's just unrealistic to even ask it.

 

 

 

I think if we encourage them to view the RPG head-on as the way to go rather than the HL, things will at least get a bit more interesting in-game

 

Spam those RPGs people. Spam them high.

I rarely use my jet. But if someone has one I'm not gonna just keep getting killed.....I'm better on the ground than in the air anyway.

 

Plus you care about KDR.

[Nutduster]

 

 

When I'm in a jet it's literally impossible for anyone to hit me with a missile.

 

Anyone that aims a missile gives away their position cos sometimes you think "Wow where is he" and then the bright spark flies towards you so I dive bomb people with the cannon.

 

If there's a jet on me, I go passive. Don't waste your time, anyone good in a jet will not be taken by a missile

The jet problem in a nutshell. "When I'm in a jet I feel all-powerful, and when I am not in a jet, I just turn on the invincible button so I won't die to someone else's jet. But hey, jets are fine and balanced, no need to change anything - hey, look over there! *runs away*"

I rarely use my jet. But if someone has one I'm not gonna just keep getting killed.....I'm better on the ground than in the air anyway.

 

My comments is here becauseeeee...IT'S A JET DISCUSSION -_-

 

 

Not criticizing you per se. I use my jet too - usually to take out another jet, occasionally to fast travel, and very occasionally because the lobby has turned into a war zone and I've decided to be the bully rather than the bullied. I don't morally condemn players for using jets, they're too temptingly powerful in several different ways. I just think Rockstar needs to nerf the thing.

 

The only thing I do have a problem with, player behavior-wise, is when people kill you with a jet and then keep on going for the cheap spawn kills. That's sleazy. Well I could cite passive exploiting too, but that's a problem with passive mode, not with jets.

[Gridl0k]

PS the best thing about that double kill was afterwards they went passive in their jets when I came near them on the ground

 

Damn we need the railgun. At this point who gives a f*ck about balance, right?