Why does it feel like the LTS and Legitimate TDM community is dead

[CrysisAverted]

LTS usually has srubs hopping down on the ground and stealing Insurgents or climbing up some roofs

 

then of course theres this

 

Edited June 21, 2016 by CrysisAverted

[Diana_McFarland]

LTS usually has srubs hopping down on the ground and stealing Insurgents or climbing up some roofs

 

then of course theres this

 

 

 

are one of your teammates using mods/cheats? lol? Cuz how did he not die

also that game mode seems annoying

Edited June 21, 2016 by Diana_McFarland

[krismate]

What platform do you play on?

 

I play on PC and I swear the matchmaking is broken. I feel like the vast majority of time, I can't get more than 2 or 3 people in a lobby for any game mode.

[RustyShackleford]

Oh yeah, how can we forget about that person or crews who manages to sneak out of the intended area and just snipe from afar. These maps needed BOUNDARIES.

[Robaldinio]

FWIW, for the first time ever, I landed in a TDM today that was locked on first person. I have barely touched first person in GTA at all and these seemed like a bunch of serious players but I had so much fun. I can definitely see how first person would be good when you get used to it.

 

Back on topic though, my point is that if I landed in a match like this, there must still be a serious community out there.

 

R* seriously needs to introduce the ability to filter out UGC though.

Edited June 21, 2016 by Robaldinio

[Diana_McFarland]

What platform do you play on?

 

I play on PC and I swear the matchmaking is broken. I feel like the vast majority of time, I can't get more than 2 or 3 people in a lobby for any game mode.

Im on PC

[CrysisAverted]

 

LTS usually has srubs hopping down on the ground and stealing Insurgents or climbing up some roofs

 

then of course theres this

are one of your teammates using mods/cheats? lol? Cuz how did he not die

 

also that game mode seems annoying

 

On PS4 I doubt there's a mod for reversing time?!?

Seems to me like its just your typical crap servers courtesy of billionaires at R*

 

 

 

What platform do you play on?

 

I play on PC and I swear the matchmaking is broken. I feel like the vast majority of time, I can't get more than 2 or 3 people in a lobby for any game mode.

Im on PC

 

If you got Nvidia, Shadowplay can be set to record the last few minutes of gameplay similar to PS4.

Edited June 21, 2016 by CrysisAverted

[MrGrandis]

Oh yeah, how can we forget about that person or crews who manages to sneak out of the intended area and just snipe from afar. These maps needed BOUNDARIES.

 

shameless plug

 

 

Try my deathmatch de_dust2 (on both ps4 and pc)

 

 

 

FWIW, for the first time ever, I landed in a TDM today that was locked on first person. I have barely touched first person in GTA at all and these seemed like a bunch of serious players but I had so much fun. I can definitely see how first person would be good when you get used to it.

 

Back on topic though, my point is that if I landed in a match like this, there must still be a serious community out there.

Did you remember their crew name? I wanted to join one for so long

[Switch]

 

Oh yeah, how can we forget about that person or crews who manages to sneak out of the intended area and just snipe from afar. These maps needed BOUNDARIES.

 

shameless plug

 

 

Try my deathmatch de_dust2 (on both ps4 and pc)

 

 

 

FWIW, for the first time ever, I landed in a TDM today that was locked on first person. I have barely touched first person in GTA at all and these seemed like a bunch of serious players but I had so much fun. I can definitely see how first person would be good when you get used to it.

 

Back on topic though, my point is that if I landed in a match like this, there must still be a serious community out there.

Did you remember their crew name? I wanted to join one for so long

 

I've played your map, it's pretty cool because i play csgo and love dust2 haha

Edited June 21, 2016 by Switch__

[-LN-]

There is one way they can change the bph, only make it to where you only benefit if it's a hand gun or sub.

 

 

It ought to be a purely aesthetic feature though--limiting it to benefit against the use of handguns and SMGs ruins the great pistol and SMG TDMs. More so, the ones with the pistol, where you're just as well to pistol whip them for the kill as opposed to trying to empty your clip into their helmet.

 

Ever since the BPH, every third person you see these days is wearing the same sh*t--BPH + glitched mask--usually the gas mark, and heavy combat gear (courtesy of the heist update) or the BPH + some ridiculous "I think I'm a real bad ass" face paint + invisible limbs. It's honestly rather depressing, and I feel that every time I see one of these arseholes, I need to go about sacrificing a kitten to Odin so that he will spare what's left of humanity.

 

 

f*ck pvp in this game tbh

 

 

Melee is the bloody worst; I feel your pain there.

 

 

 

f*ck pvp in this game tbh

 

Ive always wondered how people manage to film crap at the exact moment it happens.

 

 

FILL ME IN ON YOUR SECRETS.

 

BECAUSE APPARENTLY PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO IT

 

 

On PS4, you can go back and capture 15 minutes of previous game footage via the PSN capture menu.

[Deathdime89]

No player incentive to bring people back over. Easier ways to make a buck.

[Diana_McFarland]

No player incentive to bring people back over. Easier ways to make a buck.

ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEYYYYYYYY

[Deathdime89]

 

No player incentive to bring people back over. Easier ways to make a buck.

ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEYYYYYYYY

 

When it comes down to it, it kind of is. lol. If LTS, TDM, DM game modes had a x3 GTA$ payout event... Lobbies would fill up... FAST.

 

I'd be playing for hours.

Edited June 21, 2016 by Deathdime89

[MrGrandis]

 

 

No player incentive to bring people back over. Easier ways to make a buck.

ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEYYYYYYYY

 

When it comes down to it, it kind of is. lol. If LTS, TDM, DM game modes had a x3 GTA$ payout event... Lobbies would fill up... FAST.

 

A ten minutes TDM will pay about $15k to the winning team and the loosing team receive $8K IIRC

 

DM just pays porrly if you rank below the third place.. So money did affect how many people will join or play.

 

Just look at heists.

[Deathdime89]

 

 

 

No player incentive to bring people back over. Easier ways to make a buck.

ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEYYYYYYYY

 

When it comes down to it, it kind of is. lol. If LTS, TDM, DM game modes had a x3 GTA$ payout event... Lobbies would fill up... FAST.

 

A ten minutes TDM will pay about $15k to the winning team and the loosing team receive $8K IIRC

 

DM just pays porrly if you rank below the third place.. So money did affect how many people will join or play.

 

Just look at heists.

 

True. Even with the new CEO/VIP work, for instance, the assassination mission pays out about 21K I believe? Hell, even some of the challenges (cashing out) pays out what ever you steal plus 17K - 21K if you win.

[MrGrandis]

 

 

 

 

No player incentive to bring people back over. Easier ways to make a buck.

ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEYYYYYYYY

 

When it comes down to it, it kind of is. lol. If LTS, TDM, DM game modes had a x3 GTA$ payout event... Lobbies would fill up... FAST.

 

A ten minutes TDM will pay about $15k to the winning team and the loosing team receive $8K IIRC

 

DM just pays porrly if you rank below the third place.. So money did affect how many people will join or play.

 

Just look at heists.

 

True. Even with the new CEO/VIP work, for instance, the assassination mission pays out about 21K I believe? Hell, even some of the challenges (cashing out) pays out what ever you steal plus 17K - 21K if you win.

 

Yeah I totally forgot about CEO/VIP work, quick and easy bucks, less time and killing involved, and most importantly (To some people) play TDM/DM/LTS will lower their precious KDR while other works won't (to some extend)

 

If the payout for TDM raise a bit, we can definitely see people playing them again. Hopefully not those "RP hack $$$$ parkour" sh*t

[Deathdime89]

 

 

 

 

 

No player incentive to bring people back over. Easier ways to make a buck.

ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEYYYYYYYY

 

When it comes down to it, it kind of is. lol. If LTS, TDM, DM game modes had a x3 GTA$ payout event... Lobbies would fill up... FAST.

 

A ten minutes TDM will pay about $15k to the winning team and the loosing team receive $8K IIRC

 

DM just pays porrly if you rank below the third place.. So money did affect how many people will join or play.

 

Just look at heists.

 

True. Even with the new CEO/VIP work, for instance, the assassination mission pays out about 21K I believe? Hell, even some of the challenges (cashing out) pays out what ever you steal plus 17K - 21K if you win.

 

Yeah I totally forgot about CEO/VIP work, quick and easy bucks, less time and killing involved, and most importantly (To some people) play TDM/DM/LTS will lower their precious KDR while other works won't (to some extend)

 

If the payout for TDM raise a bit, we can definitely see people playing them again. Hopefully not those "RP hack $$$$ parkour" sh*t

 

Yes, there was a time where the custom made DM's were actually pretty ingenious, and these "RP1,000,000 GTA$$$$$" were kind of a rarity. I put together a couple fun ones myself. One of my favorites was centralized on the red bridge in the industrial complex area, two forces come charging in at one another with debris places across the bridge. Some pretty fun fire fights were had.

[DangerZ0neX]

Bulletproof helmets, terrible pay, and invisible body cheaters are the three main reasons why LTS and TDM are dying, but even then they have a tiny amount of players unlike Captures, every f*cking capture in existence is dead and deserted.

[Deathdime89]

Bulletproof helmets, terrible pay, and invisible body cheaters are the three main reasons why LTS and TDM are dying, but even then they have a tiny amount of players unlike Captures, every f*cking capture in existence is dead and deserted.

Which is really sad. Capture was actually one of my favorite game modes they added.

[dudclub55]

Because R* have ignored TDM and LTS passionate players' requests and suggestions to make the modes better, in fact the modes have become way f*cking worse with all this unbalanced trash they kept putting in and will continue to put in.

DMs died when they put in the bulletproof helmet, and that stupid ammo menu was just R* stomping on its dead body like Trevor did to Johnny. The tints, power play system, team balancing are still also trash.

Sorry R* we managed to salvage something that could potentially be amazing about your game, we clearly deserved to get shafted, thanks.

[MrGrandis]

 

Bulletproof helmets, terrible pay, and invisible body cheaters are the three main reasons why LTS and TDM are dying, but even then they have a tiny amount of players unlike Captures, every f*cking capture in existence is dead and deserted.

Which is really sad. Capture was actually one of my favorite game modes they added.

 

It is some sort a cycle of

 

Player tries Capture -> Not knowing what to do/ Thinks capture are bad -> Leave and play other stuff -> bored of other stuff -> Tries capture again -> Thinks capture are still bad -> Not playing capture again

[Con9mm]

Deathmatches in GTA4 were always full, miss that sh!t.

 

Due to grinding for the dlc, i had taken like three weeks off from deathmatching, crazy---i know.

Anyways I thought some things would have been cleaned up after the update but I played some DMs this weekend and it was more of the same.

Everything you all mentioned is still there.

In one match I had one guy with an invisible blip and the other

guy with the slick double-health, semi-god mode, I don't know what he was doing but his health bar was there only for decoration, he went on to be the MVP and brag, takes a special kind of chapped asshole to do such a thing and no he was not a squeaker.

 

The thing that i truly hate is when I grow tired of no one joining my invites and I go back to Quick Jobbing and I helplessly get launched into a Parkour lobby and once inside I see 5-6 "On Call" players in the lobby with 12-15 "Joined" players with more on call and joining players entering.

 

If I could get 5-6 On Call players every time I send an invite, Deathmatching for me would be so much fun again.

Even if i had to deal with invisible clothes , double-health and invisible blips.

Edited June 21, 2016 by Day Reaper

[Mr_Zombly]

No idea what you're on about they're perfect and balanced and fun and rockstar has been constantly fixing them to give us the greatest gta experience.

 

[Nick930930]

 

 

f*ck pvp in this game tbh

 

 

 

Ive always wondered how people manage to film crap at the exact moment it happens.

 

 

FILL ME IN ON YOUR SECRETS.

 

BECAUSE APPARENTLY PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO IT

 

Turn on action replay

 

Profit

 

 

 

Press the share button.

Press the "Shadow Recording button"

 

 

Press any number of things. It's not hard to record stuff that happened. You don't need to be psychic, you just need to have something that's always recording.

[SPECTER II]

 

f*ck pvp in this game tbh

 

 

Ive always wondered how people manage to film crap at the exact moment it happens.

 

 

FILL ME IN ON YOUR SECRETS.

 

BECAUSE APPARENTLY PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO IT

On the Xbox One, you can record the last 30 seconds up to 5 minutes. Dunno about the other platforms.

[Mr_Zombly]

 

 

f*ck pvp in this game tbh

 

 

Ive always wondered how people manage to film crap at the exact moment it happens.

 

 

FILL ME IN ON YOUR SECRETS.

 

BECAUSE APPARENTLY PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO DO IT

On the Xbox One, you can record the last 30 seconds up to 5 minutes. Dunno about the other platforms.

 

Ps4 too, up to 15 mins I think.

[DangerZ0neX]

Here's the thing, this game knows it's broken and Rockstar can't find a way to fix their P2P mess, so when you are randomly lagging for no reason (even though your internet is fine) the game multiplies your damage to compensate for the amount of attacks and bullets you fired and missed due to lag.

 

Like, there are times when I just drive-by a driving NPC's car to test my connection in heavy public lobbies if I'm in the center of the city, and in those times when I only fire at the trunk and the doors the game loses a couple of frames and the car explodes in only two seconds of firing.

 

Normally, this barely does any damage unless if I'm firing at the engine, but that still takes a lot of clips. During lag, it doesn't even take more than half of an AP pistol mag to blow up a NPC car, the game does that to compensate by multiplying your damage for the wild chance your bullets don't hit.

 

I think this is what happened on Crysis' gif, the other guy was lagging a bit and the game multiplied his damage and range for compensation, frustrating I know but there's no solution.

Edited June 21, 2016 by DangerZ0neX

[Shadowfennekin]

It is dead. Whenever I need to do it for a daily, literally I'm not joking the only R* created one is the own with the jets that spawn next to one of the teams. Whoever spawns next to the jet wins unless you hide in Trevor's garage until the pussy gives up and comes down to fight equally

[Coleco]

I think it could be a number of factors. This is from my perspective but I have seen lots of other people on the forums that share similar sentiments:

 

• A glut of user-generated content
• Poor matchmaking
• Players motivated by "max time-to-profit ratios"

 

Personally I hate user-generated content because for every balanced, well thought out creation there's about a thousand pieces of trash that are convoluted, tedious experiences seemingly geared solely toward making as much in-game cash for people as possible with the bare minimum of effort (or a protracted setup involving far too many rounds).

 

I stopped playing LTS and TDM because of terrible user content. The matchmaking didn't help but what finally turned me off bothering to play them was the crap that people churn out and play relentlessly, all in the name of making a quick virtual buck.

[Damned_Hitman]

The community of players is thinned out too much, via aim preference, via created content (a lot of which is terrible).

 

Join a crew that is active is my best advice.

 

My crew (Damned Brotherhood, PS4) tries to organise every Friday, a session called ''Free Aim Friday', I know other crews that do similar but in Assisted Aim.

I don't think it would be possible to enjoy GTAOnline without a decent crew and friends.