Saitek R440 Wheel causes Grand Theft Auto V to crash on startup (Unhan

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In a Windows 10 (64bit) gaming computer (i7, 24gb ram, Geforce GTX770), GTA V is crashing ONLY when I have a Saitek R440 Wheel + Pedals plugged in, even in safe mode, in USB 2 and 3 ports.

The Saitek wheel buttons and axes work and are configurable under Windows 10 "Set UP USB Controllers". At one point earlier, TocaEdit x360 (aka x360ce_64.exe) was crashing with the SAME unhandled exception (referencing PID.DLL) as GTA V was. But now that I have this driver installed...

ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software/full/Saitek_R440_Force_Wheel_SD6_64.exe

(I wish I could have found something for the R440 under "ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software/beta/Windows10/"but I didn't.)

... there's no longer a crash with TodaEdit. And the device now appears in Device Manager as a Saitek R440 device (before trying this driver, it was generic.)

But now, the Windows 10 "Set UP USB Controllers" does crash with a "Windows Shell Common DLL has stopped working" error, but ONLY IF I CHECK the "test force feedback" box.

So the MAIN ISSUE is the GTA V crash when I first start up the game. (NOTE - if the saitek wheel is unplugged, GTA V starts fine.)

One weird thing -- I did enable the WIN10 ADMINISTRATOR account, and reinstalled the wheel from scratch, just to test if I had a permissions problem. I still got the crashes listed above, BUT the event viewer logs reference a different file in the "Faulting module path". When I'm logged in as my MAIN Win10 user, the errors reference "pid.dll" as faulting module. But in Admin user, the errors reference "SaiQFF04.dll", which I assume is a Saitek driver.

Regardless, here are the errors:

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MY USER LOGIN- GTA V:

Faulting application name: GTA5.exe, version: 1.0.678.1, time stamp: 0x56e2b38c

Faulting module name: pid.dll, version: 10.0.10586.0, time stamp: 0x5632d86f

Exception code: 0xc0000005

Fault offset: 0x0000000000003e05

Faulting process id: 0xd28

Faulting application start time: 0x01d1c9eaa462cd5f

Faulting application path: U:\Games\Grand Theft Auto V\GTA5.exe

Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\pid.dll

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MY USER LOGIN - SET UP USB CONTROLLER / "Windows Shell Common DLL has stopped working":

Faulting application name: rundll32.exe_shell32.dll, version: 10.0.10586.0, time stamp: 0x5632d71b

Faulting module name: pid.dll, version: 10.0.10586.0, time stamp: 0x5632d86f

Exception code: 0xc000041d

Fault offset: 0x0000000000003e05

Faulting process id: 0x1344

Faulting application start time: 0x01d1c9e7f577350f

Faulting application path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe

Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\pid.dll

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WIN10 ADMIN LOGIN - GTA V:

Faulting application name: GTA5.exe, version: 1.0.678.1, time stamp: 0x56e2b38c

Faulting module name: SaiQFF04.dll, version: 6.0.4.1, time stamp: 0x46372b3b

Exception code: 0xc0000005

Faulting application path: U:\Games\Grand Theft Auto V\GTA5.exe

Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SaiQFF04.dll

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WIN10 ADMIN LOGIN - SET UP USB CONTROLLER / "Windows Shell Common DLL has stopped working":

Faulting application name: rundll32.exe_shell32.dll, version: 10.0.10586.0, time stamp: 0x5632d71b

Faulting module name: SaiQFF04.dll, version: 6.0.4.1, time stamp: 0x46372b3b

Exception code: 0xc000041d

Faulting application path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe

Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SaiQFF04.dll

[_ReNNie_]

Did anyone ever solve this?

The signed Saitek driver SaiQFF04.dll is now automagically installed by Windows 10 when the Logitech Wingman Formula Force (non-GP) is plugged in.

But V crashes (all release versions do). And I doubt creating a ticket at R* would help me much

 

Already have a G27 sitting around... So, I guess there's no alternative then to write off a perfectly sound FF wheel

[smurfynz]

Anything interesting in the launcher.log?

log can be found in C:\Users\{username}\Documents\Rockstar Games\GTA V\ by default