New ban wave was released today

[Alvarez]

How about device ban, based on MAC

adresses?

[Furry_Monkey]

How about device ban, based on MAC

adresses?

 

Replace your network card and that's changed.

[Gridl0k]

Or just replace your MAC address. Meaningful bans come from costly signals - essentially, pay money or verify your identity to play. Try evading a ban based on your CC number, or losing £30 every time.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but is the only evidence so far this guy's cousin? That's a bit cliche no?

Edited June 18, 2016 by Gridl0k

[Alvarez]

So why wouldn't Rockstar demand identity confirmation, like ID copy or something?

 

Wait, i got it: this would rob them of all the underage audience, since the game is rated as M.

[Gridl0k]

So why wouldn't Rockstar demand identity confirmation, like ID copy or something?

 

Wait, i got it: this would rob them of all the underage audience, since the game is rated as M.

 

Added liability and overhead for no added revenue. Plus yeah you don't ban kids from a microtransaction game.

[Furry_Monkey]

Yeah, the day I have to prove my identity in order to play a computer game is the day I stop playing computer games. Please think about what you're saying. This place is bad enough as it is, without making it worse for the sake of a hobby.

[Alvarez]

Yeah, the day I have to prove my identity in order to play a computer game is the day I stop playing computer games. Please think about what you're saying. This place is bad enough as it is, without making it worse for the sake of a hobby.

If you get another idea how to stop cheater bastards, i'm all ears.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

"rockstar getting serious about cleaning up...."

 

i stopped reading there

 

even if the people behind that specific cleanup have good intentions, pc will be f*cked up untill they come with a propper anti-cheat mesurement....or either they need to have an efective ban wave every month for all coming years gta5's gtao has on pc....wich i dont see happening

Edited June 18, 2016 by goldadderXD

[saintsrow]

... fools will be fools.

This tiny phrase describes GTA Online in its entirety.

 

[Broblab]

R* is still deluding themselves that they're winning this war against the hackers, cheaters, modders, and console script kiddies.

 

The fan base is seriously burned out on GTAO IMO. R* seriously needs to consider retiring GTA V --- and the franchise in general--for some 2-3 years before rolling out GTA VI. Assuming there WILL be a GTA VI that is.....

 

It doesn't matter what ban wave # this happens to be because idiots like your cousin will always find a way around R* hotfixes. It's only a matter of time before your cousin is back in business. And if they bust his balls with the 20 year ban, he'll probably wind up doing what most lifers do---buy a brand new version of the game. Then rinse and repeat.

 

edit: isn't it funny how there appears to be ZERO buzz about where GTA VI will be? Unlike the massive speculation about where GTA V was going to be located and who/what locations would be featured in it, the fan base seems completely indifferent to the 6th gen sequel of the franchise. I really hope the sewer that GTAO has devolved into doesn't end up affecting the development schedule on GTA VI

 

try not to think of banning people who cheat the same way the US treats "the war on drugs".

 

they dont care "that" much. they just ban them whenever they happen to ping the radar for it.

 

no dev cares that much. it just weeds out the idiots.

 

the ones who get away with it are usually the ones that work in the gaming industry later....maybe.

[Gridl0k]

Yeah, the day I have to prove my identity in order to play a computer game is the day I stop playing computer games. Please think about what you're saying. This place is bad enough as it is, without making it worse for the sake of a hobby.

 

Age, not identity, is all I ask. Just in the context of bans would ID be useful. I'm entirely with you on it not being desirable.

[Furry_Monkey]

 

Yeah, the day I have to prove my identity in order to play a computer game is the day I stop playing computer games. Please think about what you're saying. This place is bad enough as it is, without making it worse for the sake of a hobby.

If you get another idea how to stop cheater bastards, i'm all ears.

 

 

Just because I can't tell you how to stop something does not mean that such extremes should be taken. That response is a PERFECT example of why I typed that last sentence.

 

It's a f*cking game - get some perspective.

[Mattoropael]

Can't R* just ban IP addresses

 

In most cases, you need to ban an entire ISP or a whole country worth of IP addresses to be remotely effective at banning one guy, with a crap ton of collateral damage.

[Alvarez]

 

 

Yeah, the day I have to prove my identity in order to play a computer game is the day I stop playing computer games. Please think about what you're saying. This place is bad enough as it is, without making it worse for the sake of a hobby.

If you get another idea how to stop cheater bastards, i'm all ears.

 

 

Just because I can't tell you how to stop something does not mean that such extremes should be taken. That response is a PERFECT example of why I typed that last sentence.

 

It's a f*cking game - get some perspective.

 

I get your point.

My remark wasn't meant to be bitter, though, i am genuinely interested in a method that would satisfy most of the sides - except for cheaters.

[Furry_Monkey]

 

 

 

Yeah, the day I have to prove my identity in order to play a computer game is the day I stop playing computer games. Please think about what you're saying. This place is bad enough as it is, without making it worse for the sake of a hobby.

If you get another idea how to stop cheater bastards, i'm all ears.

 

 

Just because I can't tell you how to stop something does not mean that such extremes should be taken. That response is a PERFECT example of why I typed that last sentence.

 

It's a f*cking game - get some perspective.

 

I get your point.

My remark wasn't meant to be bitter, though, i am genuinely interested in a method that would satisfy most of the sides - except for cheaters.

 

 

Oh totally - I couldn't agree more. I'm just not a fan of extremism and removing human rights 1 by 1 may be a very slow method, but it is extremist.

 

Streamed games is the only way I can think of to stop cheating in the form of manipulating the game application. Obviously glitches (and wall breaches etc.) would still fall under the remit of "fix your stupid game you lazy bastards", but I can see a future in streamed games. PC gaming will never go though, so there will always be hacking & cheating.

[Bermuda185]

You can call it a banwave, you can also call it detection of Cheat engine and other mod menus.

 

The anti cheat is upgraded for sure!

[Grimoire]

Been playing on PC since the beginning of the year...Most of the script kiddes and mod menu bitches have decreased by a large amount...I rarely ever see them anymore.

 

Keep in mind..I don't actively look for them but I have been in many different sessions,before and after the current update.

 

It's like i am playing a totally different game.

Edited June 18, 2016 by Synshade

[Gridl0k]

Meanwhile on Xbox every lobby has at least one transferred account with modded stats.

[DangerZ0neX]

Meanwhile on Xbox every lobby has at least one transferred account with modded stats.

For the last time, these are the least of our worries, the only amount of griefing they can cause is the same amount of griefing a high level player can cause as well, most of these modded accounts only want to enjoy the toys in GTA Online because of how expensive everything is. Edited June 18, 2016 by DangerZ0neX

[EkaSwede]

Hm, perhaps it was a good idea to make CEO work in public sessions only, since that gave R* a reason to be more up to date with their anti cheat.

[Azarael]

The best ban systems will collect data from your machine which can be used to profile you, by the way. So if you have any privacy / intrusion concerns to raise, don't bother, because this is already happening.

Edited June 18, 2016 by Azarael

[Amnesia.]

"rockstar getting serious about cleaning up...."

 

i stopped reading there

 

even if the people behind that specific cleanup have good intentions, pc will be f*cked up untill they come with a propper anti-cheat mesurement....or either they need to have an efective ban wave every month for all coming years gta5's gtao has on pc....wich i dont see happening

Well they aren't "just banning", they have been constantly upgrading their anti-cheat program.

Edited June 18, 2016 by LeCaire

[Gridl0k]

I get kicked (and presumably reported) from lobbies and jobs because nobody can trust the game. So it has an impact outside of mere appearance. Also I believe the modded run speed still transfers?

 

 

Meanwhile on Xbox every lobby has at least one transferred account with modded stats.

For the last time, these are the least of our worries, the only amount of griefing the can cause is the same amount of griefing a high level player can cause as well, most of these modded accounts only want to enjoy the toys in GTA Online because of how expensive everything is.

[Non Funkable Token]

Been playing on PC since the beginning of the year...Most of the script kiddes and mod menu bitches have decreased by a large amount...I rarely ever see them anymore.

 

Keep in mind..I don't actively look for them but I have been in many different sessions,before and after the current update.

 

It's like i am playing a totally different game.

 

They were rampant from early December (when I started to play this) to mid January (good banwave then), started to come back in a big fashion by March, and by the time the last update was released they were a plague again.

 

We have to enjoy these current weeks of relative peace....

[Bitsey]

Meanwhile, a friend of mine just got his second ban for no reason, and I absolutely believe him that his game is vanilla and always has been. Never modded whatsoever. I suspect R* detects GPU utilities or something as false positive. Or maybe crashing too often is an offense now. Unfortunately, that's no topic you can ask for help with anywhere without a major bashing. On another note, GTAO on PC never felt as good as these days.

[Furry_Monkey]

The best ban systems will collect data from your machine which can be used to profile you, by the way. So if you have any privacy / intrusion concerns to raise, don't bother, because this is already happening.

 

Does that honestly make it okay, in your mind - it's already happening so let it continue? Where are my f*cking slaves then?

 

I've already posted the most effective prevention method, so banning would be unnecessary.

[DangerZ0neX]

So it has an impact outside of mere appearance. Also I believe the modded run speed still transfers?

No, they don't, I've been battling against so many modded account lately and the only advantage they have is that they are way too generous with explosives and tend to run like crybabies to a tank when you hand their asses to them, otherwise they are as vulnerable as regular players.

[.Vooodu.]

R* needs to allow PC players to play with mods and get over it.

 

Only reason to play on PC is for mods IMO. Give players a MODDED lobby to join that has no connection to their GTA stats and game and just give it up R*.

 

Some of the mods out now are f*ckin amazing. More vehicles... more skins... more areas. Waiting for R* bullsh*t of new content is like watching paint dry and then flake off..

[Amnesia.]

R* needs to allow PC players to play with mods and get over it.

 

Only reason to play on PC is for mods IMO. Give players a MODDED lobby to join that has no connection to their GTA stats and game and just give it up R*.

 

Some of the mods out now are f*ckin amazing. More vehicles... more skins... more areas. Waiting for R* bullsh*t of new content is like watching paint dry and then flake off..

No. I DO think that Rockstar should officially allow PC players to use graphic enhancement mods, like sweetfx, etc. But allow any random game-affecting mods, and it would make GTAO a sh*thole.

[AUScowboy]

Please, post moar tears...plz?