Buff the Savage

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

And again, the Savage is fine as it is.Think on what would happen if Rockstar listens to you whiners and give it an armour buff.

 

 

 

Ok.. thought about it. Having the savage able to take a few rockets and way more bullets does not bother me at all.

 

 

Whoooop deeeee dooooo.

Get back to the cage you came from, troll.

Saying Savage needs an armour buff is like saying the insurgent should have bulletproof windows.

 

NO, it is fine as it is now.

 

 

 

Il go back to my cage after my daily visitation time has expired.. and i get my meds. Until then you're gonna have to deal with me.

 

 

I mean lets face. You're this guy ... the guy who made a topic complaining about yacht defenses taking him down while trying to troll with a jet.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/833419-the-yacht-defence-system-is-ridicolously-op/page-1

 

 

As funny as that topic was. Maybe the reason you're being so bitchy about this topic is because a buff to a savage might make it viable against jets. Is that it Gordoofy?

Edited June 19, 2016 by HulioG

[Sky_Light12]

Il go back to my cage after my daily visitation time has expired.. and i get my meds. Until then you're gonna have to deal with me.

 

 

I mean lets face. You're this guy ... the guy who made a topic complaining about yacht defenses taking him down while trying to troll with a jet.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/833419-the-yacht-defence-system-is-ridicolously-op/page-1

 

 

As funny as that topic was. Maybe the reason you're being so bitchy about this topic is because a buff to a savage might make it viable against jets. Is that it Gordoofy?

 

Ooooooooooh , dayum G , must be ice cold * take a sip of tea *

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

 

 

And again, the Savage is fine as it is.Think on what would happen if Rockstar listens to you whiners and give it an armour buff.

 

 

 

Ok.. thought about it. Having the savage able to take a few rockets and way more bullets does not bother me at all.

 

 

Whoooop deeeee dooooo.

Get back to the cage you came from, troll.

Saying Savage needs an armour buff is like saying the insurgent should have bulletproof windows.

 

NO, it is fine as it is now.

 

 

Il go back to my cage after my daily visitation time has expired.. and i get my meds. Until then you're gonna have to deal with me.

 

 

I mean lets face. You're this guy ... the guy who made a topic complaining about yacht defenses taking him down while trying to troll with a jet.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/833419-the-yacht-defence-system-is-ridicolously-op/page-1

 

 

As funny as that topic was. Maybe the reason you're being so bitchy about this topic is because a buff to a savage might make it viable against jets. Is that it Gordoofy?

Killing other people in a game about crime and murder isn't trolling, is playing the game the way its supposed to be played.

If the Savage gets buffed, it won't have chances against jets anyway, yeah no sh*t sherlock, it doesn't stand a chance against buzzards either.The savage isn't supposed to be an air-to-air combat vehicle, but an air-to ground one, and so is very effective against tanks and other ground vehicles, due to its homing infinite missiles. Even a Valkyrie gets shoot down easily by it.

All these things are enough to make it balanced.

And, last thing: i'll burst your balls if you continue to joke on my name.

Edited June 19, 2016 by Urustay Gordov

[.Vooodu.]

.The savage isn't supposed to be an air-to-air combat vehicle, but an air-to ground one, and so is very effective against tanks and other ground vehicles, due to its homing infinite missiles. Even a Valkyrie gets shoot down easily by it.

All these things are enough to make it balanced.

And, last thing: i'll burst your balls if you continue to joke on my name.

 

 

Haha... You trying to talk about balance is like a dwarf trying to reach the top shelf for some sugar. Its a like a mountain you can't climb.

 

Its supposed to be a ground to air vehicle? Yet its armor is nearly non existent. For a vehicle thats considered to be a flying tank, if anything taking a few heavy hits is crucial in air to ground combat. But then common sense isn't really you're strong point.

 

As far as busting my balls goes... Feel free to work on my balls all you want. Its like a jet cannon.. And after you're done with it.. Il call you Gooey Gordorv

Edited June 19, 2016 by HulioG

[Hunter]

Urinestay Gorgon, you have nothing to back up your claims. Nothing at all.

 

It's like the jet threads all over again. I come on with videos, everything you can imagine to prove my point. You hit back with insults, puff, and, well, nothing at all really.

 

If you can show us just one video of a decent player(s) being killed a few times, then I'll gladly reconsider my position. I'm not talking about donuts that just stand there with the homing launcher either - I kill those myself all the time. I'm talking about people who mix things up, and switch to other weapons when a helicopters hiding behind stuff.

 

You'll never post a video of this, because it doesn't exist.

 

The Savage is no problem for a good player, none at all. It needs an armour buff, and everyone (other than you) seems to agree.

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

.The savage isn't supposed to be an air-to-air combat vehicle, but an air-to ground one, and so is very effective against tanks and other ground vehicles, due to its homing infinite missiles. Even a Valkyrie gets shoot down easily by it.All these things are enough to make it balanced.

And, last thing: i'll burst your balls if you continue to joke on my name.

 

Haha... You trying to talk about balance is like a dwarf trying to reach the top shelf for some sugar. Its a like a mountain you can't climb.

 

Its supposed to be a ground to air vehicle? Yet its armor is nearly non existent. For a vehicle thats considered to be a flying tank, if anything taking least a few heavy hits is crucial in air to ground combat. But then common sense isn't really you're strong point.

 

As far as busting my balls goes... Feel free to work on my balls all you want. Its like a jet cannon.. And after you're done with it.. Il call you Gooey Gordorv

Its armour is nearly non-existend to balance for its heavy firepower, and if you talk about realism in a game where people can carry 20-30 weapons at once, i think its the time for you to get back to the cage you from and to stop talking idiotic nonsense bullsh*t about things you are ignorant at.

"But then common sense isn't really you're strong point"talks the one whose main speciality is to spread bullsh*t on the forums, i really had a good laugh reading that.

Urinestay Gorgon, you have nothing to back up your claims. Nothing at all.

 

It's like the jet threads all over again. I come on with videos, everything you can imagine to prove my point. You hit back with insults, puff, and, well, nothing at all really.

 

If you can show us just one video of a decent player(s) being killed a few times, then I'll gladly reconsider my position. I'm not talking about donuts that just stand there with the homing launcher either - I kill those myself all the time. I'm talking about people who mix things up, and switch to other weapons when a helicopters hiding behind stuff.

 

You'll never post a video of this, because it doesn't exist.

 

The Savage is no problem for a good player, none at all. It needs an armour buff, and everyone (other than you) seems to agree.

Say whatever you want to say, 90% of the people,99% of the time, don't post videos to prove things, so i don't either.

And insults? What insult? Why are you inventing episodes that never happened?

Edited June 19, 2016 by Urustay Gordov

[Hunter]

 

 

Say whatever you want to say, 90% of the people,99% of the time, don't post videos to prove things, so i don't either.

And insults? What insult? Why are you inventing episodes that never happened?

 

Calling people whiners, insulting people by suggesting the thread should be locked, etc.

 

90% of people aren't me then. I've posted a whole load of videos to prove my point. You haven't posted anything other than generic "git gud"/"stop whining" comments.

 

Oh, and your poll is proving my point well too lol.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/858935-polldo-you-think-savage-needs-a-buff/

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

.The savage isn't supposed to be an air-to-air combat vehicle, but an air-to ground one, and so is very effective against tanks and other ground vehicles, due to its homing infinite missiles. Even a Valkyrie gets shoot down easily by it.All these things are enough to make it balanced.

And, last thing: i'll burst your balls if you continue to joke on my name.

 

Haha... You trying to talk about balance is like a dwarf trying to reach the top shelf for some sugar. Its a like a mountain you can't climb.

 

Its supposed to be a ground to air vehicle? Yet its armor is nearly non existent. For a vehicle thats considered to be a flying tank, if anything taking least a few heavy hits is crucial in air to ground combat. But then common sense isn't really you're strong point.

 

As far as busting my balls goes... Feel free to work on my balls all you want. Its like a jet cannon.. And after you're done with it.. Il call you Gooey Gordorv

Its armour is nearly non-existend to balance for its heavy firepower, and if you talk about realism in a game where people can carry 20-30 weapons at once, i think its the time for you to get back to the cage you from and to stop talking idiotic nonsense bullsh*t about things you are ignorant at.

 

 

 

Good ol Gooey... still making the jammy jam.

 

 

Its funny that when topics about jets come up you bring up realism to bolster your point about how it should remain OP. When a topic about a 'flying tank' with paper thing armor comes up you take the exact opposite approach? And stubbornly so.. that is sort of funny.

 

What balance are you speaking of... ? Since when have you ever made a logical post about balance.. cause and effect. I've never seen it. I mean, to be honest i think your posts sound like jokes that only shed light on the actual problems you're defending. Which is the funny part. Its like you're doing my job for me..and anyone else who either wants a buff or has no issue with a buff.

 

 

And for the record... Im already in my cage. I have a swing set up..and a gimp suit on and im up side down.. I left the safe word on the counter.. Don't keep me waiting... I got other sh*t to do.

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

 

 

.The savage isn't supposed to be an air-to-air combat vehicle, but an air-to ground one, and so is very effective against tanks and other ground vehicles, due to its homing infinite missiles. Even a Valkyrie gets shoot down easily by it.All these things are enough to make it balanced.

And, last thing: i'll burst your balls if you continue to joke on my name.

 

Haha... You trying to talk about balance is like a dwarf trying to reach the top shelf for some sugar. Its a like a mountain you can't climb.

 

Its supposed to be a ground to air vehicle? Yet its armor is nearly non existent. For a vehicle thats considered to be a flying tank, if anything taking least a few heavy hits is crucial in air to ground combat. But then common sense isn't really you're strong point.

 

As far as busting my balls goes... Feel free to work on my balls all you want. Its like a jet cannon.. And after you're done with it.. Il call you Gooey Gordorv

Its armour is nearly non-existend to balance for its heavy firepower, and if you talk about realism in a game where people can carry 20-30 weapons at once, i think its the time for you to get back to the cage you from and to stop talking idiotic nonsense bullsh*t about things you are ignorant at.

 

 

Good ol Gooey... still making the jammy jam.

 

 

Its funny that when topics about jets come up you bring up realism to bolster your point about how it should remain OP. When a topic about a 'flying tank' with paper thing armor comes up you take the exact opposite approach? And stubbornly so.. that is sort of funny.

 

What balance are you speaking of... ? Since when have you ever made a logical post about balance.. cause and effect. I've never seen it. I mean, to be honest i think your posts sound like jokes that only shed light on the actual problems you're defending. Which is the funny part. Its like you're doing my job for me..and anyone else who either wants a buff or has no issue with a buff.

 

 

And for the record... Im already in my cage. I have a swing set up..and a gimp suit on and im up side down.. I left the safe word on the counter.. Don't keep me waiting... I got other sh*t to do.

I had a laugh reading all that bullsh*t you have wrote.

 

Bringing up realism on jet topics, where did i?

Are you mad?

If the Savage ever gets buffed low level newbies wouldn't have a chance against it, that's the balance problem.

You neither are capable to make valid points, like "nerf jets because GTA is a street crime simulator" those weak points you tried to make were really good to have a good laugh i gotta admit.

Seriously, you have a bright future to work as a clown, you know that?

[Hunter]

 

 

I had a laugh reading all that bullsh*t you have wrote.

 

Bringing up realism on jet topics, where did i?

Are you mad?

If the Savage ever gets buffed low level newbies wouldn't have a chance against it, that's the balance problem.

You neither are capable to make valid points, like "nerf jets because GTA is a street crime simulator" those weak points you tried to make were really good to have a good laugh i gotta admit.

Seriously, you have a bright future to work as a clown, you know that?

 

Funny thing is, he's not even an aerial kind of guy I don't think. If anyone has an unbiased opinion, its got to be him right?

 

Just like in those jet threads. I agree that the jet is pretty overpowered, and I spend a lot of time in the air.

 

He might not be perfect (who is?), but when it comes to balance, I think he's got his head screwed on pretty well.

 

If anyone had a weak argument in those jet threads, it was you anyway.

[.Vooodu.]

 

If the Savage ever gets buffed low level newbies wouldn't have a chance against it, that's the balance problem.

 

 

 

 

 

Low level newbies... Is that what you're worried about?

 

 

L M F A O...

 

Low ... Level.. newbies. Ooooh pooor dem.

 

Low level newbies who already have access to a HL and would have to shoot 1 or 2 more rockets. Low level newbies of a 3 and half year old game. Low level newbies who.. at this point in the games life cycle are probably second characters. And if they where a true low level newbie newbie that would make up the smallest fraction of the games player base.

 

Seriously... whos still a real newbie in GTA? 1% of the player base? Is that who you are being considerate of now all of a sudden? Newbies... the poor newbies.

 

Just wondering.. What do these low level newbies have to defend themselves against YOU in a JET? Or any jet.

 

Edited June 19, 2016 by .Vooodu.

[.Vooodu.]

 

Seriously, you have a bright future to work as a clown, you know that?

 

 

 

I tried that once.. Got fired on my day off.

 

 

 

And i never got paid either

[DevilDaRebel]

 

 

 

 

And again, the Savage is fine as it is.Think on what would happen if Rockstar listens to you whiners and give it an armour buff.

 

 

 

Ok.. thought about it. Having the savage able to take a few rockets and way more bullets does not bother me at all.

 

 

Whoooop deeeee dooooo.

Get back to the cage you came from, troll.

Saying Savage needs an armour buff is like saying the insurgent should have bulletproof windows.

 

NO, it is fine as it is now.

 

 

Il go back to my cage after my daily visitation time has expired.. and i get my meds. Until then you're gonna have to deal with me.

 

 

I mean lets face. You're this guy ... the guy who made a topic complaining about yacht defenses taking him down while trying to troll with a jet.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/833419-the-yacht-defence-system-is-ridicolously-op/page-1

 

 

As funny as that topic was. Maybe the reason you're being so bitchy about this topic is because a buff to a savage might make it viable against jets. Is that it Gordoofy?

Killing other people in a game about crime and murder isn't trolling, is playing the game the way its supposed to be played.

If the Savage gets buffed, it won't have chances against jets anyway, yeah no sh*t sherlock, it doesn't stand a chance against buzzards either.The savage isn't supposed to be an air-to-air combat vehicle, but an air-to ground one, and so is very effective against tanks and other ground vehicles, due to its homing infinite missiles. Even a Valkyrie gets shoot down easily by it.

All these things are enough to make it balanced.

And, last thing: i'll burst your balls if you continue to joke on my name.

 

 

You love talking out of your ass don't you? Because sh*t is all I'm reading. I'm sorry, the savage isn't supposed to be air to air attack helicopter? According to who? Where you there when Rockstar where planning the helicopter? or you have some inside sources were not aware of? Lol,okay. Let's say it's not supposed to be air to air following your own logic, it must be air to ground, so why the f*ck is it so weak against ground targets? I mean, all you need is 4 revolver shots to take it down from the sky. Your arguments can be compared to the Savage. both weak af.

Edited June 19, 2016 by -Velox

[Hunter]

Well the people have spoken, as they have time and time again:

 

 

 

 

[Sky_Light12]

 

 

Seriously, you have a bright future to work as a clown, you know that?

 

 

 

I tried that once.. Got fired on my day off.

 

 

 

And i never got paid either

 

oh my , i know that feels , G

 

@Icantthinkofonew

reminds me , the guy " mydikisweak-%&879 "

[Hunter]

Well that other thread got shut down (though its results were pretty telling anyway).

 

All these Savage threads are making me feel like making something. I'm not sure what though - in fact, I don't think I've actually ever made a thread about buffing the Savage, funnily enough. I've went on and on about it as much as anyone else I know, but not yet made a thread about it.

 

Maybe we need a petition (with links to the support site too). Probably wouldn't do much good, but could be worth a try.

 

Maybe even make some pacts with other petitions somehow too - like bikers, clothes, hunter, etc. Just something that would get a lot of support. Could complicate things though - it'd have to be things that were acceptable to everyone, which would get harder the more different things were added.

[Azarael]

If they cared about what the community thought about matters that don't affect sales, they would have created an area of their own for gameplay/balance/addition discussion. That they have not, and instead opt for an isolationist perspective with a Suggestion Box-type graveyard email address with automated replies, is pretty telling.

Edited June 19, 2016 by Azarael

[Hunter]

If they cared about what the community thought about matters that don't affect sales, they would have created an area of their own for gameplay/balance/addition discussion.

They probably don't care.

 

But in that case, what's the point of suggesting anything gets changed or added to the game? Just got to go by what we can do. Can't control if they care or not, but we can give making some noise a go.

[Arrows to Athens]

[BigJoe_1]

How hard is it to understand. The Savage is supposed to specialise in armor and firepower, it's supposed to be the vehicle that can fight it's way out of being cornered. It needs an armor buff so it can acutally do that. Notice that no one is asking for a speed/mobility buff, it's because people realise that that's what the Buzzard's for .

 

The Savage is supposed to be the vehicle that can tank the hits and give them out simultaneously. It's supposed to have that immense firepower and armor so it can actually stand a chance in certain situations.

 

Let me break it down for you people who can't comprehend what it means to specialise in something. The Buzzard and Savage both specialise in specific areas.

The Buzzard does so in speed, maneuverability, due to this it excels in large airspaces with lots of room to move where it's able to move around a lot and whittle the enemy down while they struggle to hit it.

The Savage on the other hand specialises in armor and firepower, because of this it performs at its best when in close quarters combat where it can utilise its armor and its firepower at the same time, it shrugs off the hits and gives them back out.

The thing about these vehicles however is that they're situational, i.e. they only function well when they're in a suitable environment. Try putting a Buzzard in a small tight airspace with barely anywhere to move around and watch it get ripped apart. Why? It's lack of armor, a weakness, if easily to exploit due it being unable to utilise its main strength, i.e. its mobility. The same goes for the Savage, put it in a large airspace and watch it struggle to avoid most the incoming fire and eventually get destroyed. Due to it being in a large airspace it will struggle to make up for its lack of mobility and it will be circled by pretty much anything that isn't a plane (not counting the stuntplane). It will also struggle to utilise its strengths due to the guns having such a short range and, due to not being able to reliably face the enemy, it will be unable to use its rockets effectively.

 

If I haven't made it clear enough already, the Savage NEEDS this armor buff to actually excel at something that no other chopper in the game can. Just because something specialises in both armor and firepower doesn't mean it's OP, nothing is OP as long as it has a weakness that can be exploited reliably by someone who knows what they're doing. The weakness of the Savage can be exploited by simply getting it into a large airspace where it can be outmaneuvered, do that and you'll find that it's rather easy to take down.

If you want to talk about OP vehicles then you might as well talk about the Valkyrie and nothing else. It's the most versatile chopper in the game, with it's decent mobility, powerful weapons and acceptable armor it can function in near enough any environment as long as there is at least one other player in the helicopter along with the pilot. There are no glaring weaknesses to take advantage of other than the weaponry being useless if you're flying it by yourself, but why would you fly a Valkyrie alone in the first place?

Edited June 21, 2016 by BigJoe_1