Red Dead Redemption 2 General Chat

[Caligula-Chan]

Hey, I just wanted to throw this in a few places as I hoped people would get a chance to see it. I completed a story mission soundtrack for RDR2. Ripped from the game files, mixed and edited for easier listening Here's a link.

https://mega.nz/folder/9Yc2Vb4I#BZoQX4fx1zJtmGsLCIG_1w

 

It's big, 399 flac files at about 13 gigs total. Hope you all enjoy. It took me over a year to make.

[Edward RDRIII]

On 4/22/2022 at 7:45 PM, Lemoyne outlaw said:

i would still bet that micah is a better shot than arthur. just seeing the scene in the short walk in a pretty town mission. he instantly reacts and destroys them. and then bursting into the gun store and killing two guys at once. arthur cant do that. he is a good shot. but not as good as micah. as for not killing john. he probably was just trying to scare him into running away. he even told john that he didn't want to kill him. i truly believe if micah dueled any of the van der linde gang members. he would win. and nothing anyone says can change my mind. the only reason he died in the first place was dutch shooting him in the back. and by then micah was already weakened and not in his normal health.

Arthur didn't react quickly because he was obviously shocked by seeing Sean die, Bill also gets shot just a few seconds later during that same cutscene, about the gunsmith store, you can go into it by the front door instead and kill everyone inside, this way there will be no one left for Micah to kill and even the dialogue changes, also let's not forget Arthur draws his gun faster than Micah on "Red Dead Redemption" even during the last hours of his life, he is definitely the best gunslinger/gunman in the game with the biggest experience with all kinds of firearms. Micah was definitely a better gunslinger than John though, but that doesn't really matter, luck was on John's side that day, not everything depends solely on skill.

[Lemoyne outlaw]

1 hour ago, Edward RDRIII said:

Arthur didn't react quickly because he was obviously shocked by seeing Sean die, Bill also gets shot just a few seconds later during that same cutscene, about the gunsmith store, you can go into it by the front door instead and kill everyone inside, this way there will be no one left for Micah to kill and even the dialogue changes, also let's not forget Arthur draws his gun faster than Micah on "Red Dead Redemption" even during the last hours of his life, he is definitely the best gunslinger/gunman in the game with the biggest experience with all kinds of firearms. Micah was definitely a better gunslinger than John though, but that doesn't really matter, luck was on John's side that day, not everything depends solely on skill.

i guess you didn't see when i told the other guy to agree to disagree. you have your opinion and i have mine. this is not the debate section and i don't have enough time to debate.

[Sean800]

I think that R* should've made one-eyed Micah canon in both endings.

 

Because it could be a perfect way to justify his ineptitude in "American Venom". He's got one eye, so his aim is not what it used to be.

 

But as I said yesterday, his downfall was caused by him not understanding what Dutch meant by "same as you, I suppose". 

 

Dumb as rocks.

[Edward RDRIII]

10 hours ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

i guess you didn't see when i told the other guy to agree to disagree. you have your opinion and i have mine. this is not the debate section and i don't have enough time to debate.

If you post your opinion on a forum, you expect others to give theirs about yours, so calm yourself.

[Lemoyne outlaw]

1 hour ago, Edward RDRIII said:

If you post your opinion on a forum, you expect others to give theirs about yours, so calm yourself.

lol i posted my opinion and people can do whatever they want with it. if i wanted a debate. i would have said hey everyone i want to debate about micah. i did not come here to debate. so lets just end it there.

[Edward RDRIII]

4 hours ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

lol i posted my opinion and people can do whatever they want with it.

Exactly.

[Alexlecj]

Absolutely hilarious

 

[Lemoyne outlaw]

i wish we would have gotten some kind of flashback or dream scene in the epilogue. where we could see exactly how john got arrested in the saint denis bank heist. and how dutch abandoned him. maybe we could have played the heist as john. i also think it would be interesting to see john at sisika. it would be cool if they had an interior for it. and we could have had a mission involving how john dealt with being locked up. and im sure agent milton and ross probably paid him a visit to get information on the gangs whereabouts. it could fill in some interesting gaps that we don't have. and a mission set in the prison could feel like the mafia 2 prison chapter. which was very well done.

[Old Man With No Name]

 

This is what we thought about John's early life in the Dutch's gang before RDR2's announcement. Plus: Natives

Edited May 21 by GroveStGTAV

[Chazza354]

Doing a fresh playthrough, first time I’ve played since 2019 and I’m actually enjoying it more than my first time. I always thought it was a great game but during my first play through I felt frustrated by the slow pace and was just trying to see how the story unfolds. I thought it was a bit self-indulgent and not ‘gamey’ enough.

 

this time I’m really taking my time, going on adventures, exploring thoroughly, and generally just surrendering to the slow pace - I’ve even been walking a lot instead of running lol. It really is a wonderful game once you stop trying to play it like other open world action games.

 

One negative thought I’ve had though coming back to this game, is that after playing TLOU2, the combat is not quite as intense and immersive as it was there. If RDR2 had TLOU2 ‘s combat it would be insane. It can be a bit too much of a shooting gallery at times in RDR2. I really liked TLOU2’s approach of less enemies, but extremely engaging and realistic scenarios. It perhaps wouldn’t be easy to pull off in an open world game, but still, it would be amazing. 

[Drimes]

What's better, RDR Thieves Landing or RDR2 Van Horn?

[Cutter De Blanc]

1 hour ago, Drimes said:

What's better, RDR Thieves Landing or RDR2 Van Horn?

I liked Thieves Landing better because you don't have to fight off the entire town everytime you shoot someone 

 

I like both Casa Madrugada from RDR1 and Armadillo from RDR2 better as far as lawless towns go though

Edited May 21 by Cutter De Blanc

[Edward RDRIII]

On 5/19/2022 at 11:23 AM, Lemoyne outlaw said:

i wish we would have gotten some kind of flashback or dream scene in the epilogue. where we could see exactly how john got arrested in the saint denis bank heist. and how dutch abandoned him. maybe we could have played the heist as john. i also think it would be interesting to see john at sisika. it would be cool if they had an interior for it. and we could have had a mission involving how john dealt with being locked up. and im sure agent milton and ross probably paid him a visit to get information on the gangs whereabouts. it could fill in some interesting gaps that we don't have. and a mission set in the prison could feel like the mafia 2 prison chapter. which was very well done.

I think that could work as a sort of Story Mode DLC, playing as John between chapters 1 and 6 to see his perspective of the story, it wouldn't be as big as the normal game's story of course, having time skips more often, but the same could be said about Micah too if you want the main villain's pespective instead.

Edited May 23 by Edward RDRIII
Comment corrected.

[Edward RDRIII]

I'm copying and pasting this here from another topic because I wanna hear your opinions about this, this is my take on the supposed "East Elizabeth" state:

 

I don't think there is a North, South or East Elizabeth, just West Elizabeth, if Rockstar has ever mentioned locations such as those like in Sean's official description it's probably either a typo or a informal way of saying "North of West Elizabeth" as an example. It just doesn't make sense for any other Elizabeth to exist, north of it there's Ambarino already, south of it there's Nuevo Paraíso/Mexico, west of it could have either extra counties of the already existing West Elizabeth or a totally different state, but definitely not a East Elizabeth west of West Elizabeth, it's a no brainer, and finally to the east there's Flat Iron Lake, unless East Elizabeth is a underwater state, it doesn't exist.

[Caffeination]

Dude, I just can’t tolerate the witness system in this game any longer. All I did was say hi to someone, he told me to bother someone else, I asked him what the hell his problem is, then he instantly aggro’d and wanted to punch me. For some weird reason, I was able to knock him out with one punch after dodging a left hook from him, and that somehow warranted an NPC to run like the wind to a lawman and report me for “unarmed assault” while refusing all my commands to stop him.
 

It is like these NPCs exist just to be annoying adversaries that supplement the already-annoying psychic law enforcement that appear out of thin air and home in on your exact location. This all correlates to the honor system as well, which is honestly meaningless and is basically just giving you two choices of toppings to put on your sundae.  
 

It’s not like RDR1’s honor system, which mattered and functioned well, and NPCs didn’t report for anything other than murder of you had a high enough or low enough honor. The lawmen in RDR1 also functioned somewhat organically and didn’t infinitely respawn, or take offense to insults from low honor John/Jack.

 

I would still say RDR2 is a better package overall, but it’s like Rockstar designed the law and honor system to ruin your mood. Even defending yourself from a guy who pulled his gun on you for not accepting his insults labels you as the aggressor, or beating up the trapper guy in Valentine who brags about murdering natives and insulting others, or killing one specific breed of pig and chicken while other breeds are fair game, or some specific turkeys that spawn by the serial killer’s shack southwest of Valentine and triggers NPCs to report you for “animal cruelty” if you kill/skin them… yeah, whatever.

 

[Cutter De Blanc]

I was hanging out at the Van Horn lighthouse when I suddenly noticed one of the big boats that circle the river ran aground at the lighthouse and was sitting dead in shallow water. Never seen that before, didn't know they came so close to shore

 

Edit: Oh I guess it was from the mission where you steal the horses, the wrecked ship got towed to the lighthouse 

Edited May 29 by Cutter De Blanc

[Lemoyne outlaw]

On 5/29/2022 at 12:41 PM, Caffeination said:

Dude, I just can’t tolerate the witness system in this game any longer. All I did was say hi to someone, he told me to bother someone else, I asked him what the hell his problem is, then he instantly aggro’d and wanted to punch me. For some weird reason, I was able to knock him out with one punch after dodging a left hook from him, and that somehow warranted an NPC to run like the wind to a lawman and report me for “unarmed assault” while refusing all my commands to stop him.
 

It is like these NPCs exist just to be annoying adversaries that supplement the already-annoying psychic law enforcement that appear out of thin air and home in on your exact location. This all correlates to the honor system as well, which is honestly meaningless and is basically just giving you two choices of toppings to put on your sundae.  
 

It’s not like RDR1’s honor system, which mattered and functioned well, and NPCs didn’t report for anything other than murder of you had a high enough or low enough honor. The lawmen in RDR1 also functioned somewhat organically and didn’t infinitely respawn, or take offense to insults from low honor John/Jack.

 

I would still say RDR2 is a better package overall, but it’s like Rockstar designed the law and honor system to ruin your mood. Even defending yourself from a guy who pulled his gun on you for not accepting his insults labels you as the aggressor, or beating up the trapper guy in Valentine who brags about murdering natives and insulting others, or killing one specific breed of pig and chicken while other breeds are fair game, or some specific turkeys that spawn by the serial killer’s shack southwest of Valentine and triggers NPCs to report you for “animal cruelty” if you kill/skin them… yeah, whatever.

 

i totally agree. today i was in saint denis. and a lemoyne raider called me out. i confronted him. and he drew a knife. i defend myself and kill him with my knife. all of a sudden every cop is after me. it is very dumb how this system works. it seems like almost all of lemoyne hates the raiders. but as soon as one gets killed in self defense the whole town is up in arms over him.

[Edward RDRIII]

7 hours ago, Lemoyne outlaw said:

i totally agree. today i was in saint denis. and a lemoyne raider called me out. i confronted him. and he drew a knife. i defend myself and kill him with my knife. all of a sudden every cop is after me. it is very dumb how this system works. it seems like almost all of lemoyne hates the raiders. but as soon as one gets killed in self defense the whole town is up in arms over him.

When you're in a situation like this in a city and you know you'll get wanted even if you're acting in self defense put your mask on and kill all of them with throwing knives using dead eye then escape through the alleys.

[Cutter De Blanc]

3 hours ago, Edward RDRIII said:

When you're in a situation like this in a city and you know you'll get wanted even if you're acting in self defense put your mask on and kill all of them with throwing knives using dead eye then escape through the alleys.

That's right, the mask is pretty cool if used effectively. I once went into the Saint Denis marketplace with a mask on, and just pulled out both my guns and started firing on everybody, emptied both clips, killed a few people and rode off,  there were witnesses yeah, but no cops saw me, and so the bounty was applied to "Unknown Suspect"

 

Usually I don't have the presence of mind to don a mask everytime I comit crimes though

 

Also if the lawman dots are black in Saint Denis just put on a mask and ride fast past them, they'll shout at you to take your mask off as you fly by but if you don't stop you won't get a wanted level

[JetNormalGuy]

44 minutes ago, Cutter De Blanc said:

That's right, the mask is pretty cool if used effectively. I once went into the Saint Denis marketplace with a mask on, and just pulled out both my guns and started firing on everybody, emptied both clips, killed a few people and rode off,  there were witnesses yeah, but no cops saw me, and so the bounty was applied to "Unknown Suspect"

 

Usually I don't have the presence of mind to don a mask everytime I comit crimes though

 

Also if the lawman dots are black in Saint Denis just put on a mask and ride fast past them, they'll shout at you to take your mask off as you fly by but if you don't stop you won't get a wanted level

Masks are weird to understand but once you get it right they're awesome, I once robbed all the stores in Valentine (Doctor, General Store, Gunsmith) back to back without getting a bounty, wear a mask, run in and stick up the place, the bounty will be applied to "Uknown Suspect" and all you gotta do is run out of town and wait for a minute for it to cooldown and run back in town and rob another store. with the gunsmith though you have to run up to him and pistol-whip him so that he doesn't pull out a gun and shoot which will make your escape harder because you won't have much time to haul ass out of town before the law gets a good look at you and reconize you as Arthur Morgan.

[universetwisters]

Here’s a wild theory I thought of; Rockstar is letting RDR2 Online die because they knew RDR2 was Dan Houser’s sort of pet project and they’re doing it out of spite more than anything.

 

Prob not true but idk it’s something to chew on

[Username_already_taken]

Anyone else think that Wolves are just tedious filler events? For some reason I find them really boring because they always randomly spawn pretty much everywhere outside of the towns. If you manage to peel your horse away from being scared stiff and run past them yet more will keep spawning within minutes, almost like it's trying to force a tedious interaction with them.

 

I'm on my third proper playthrough and the very first time I visited the trapper unbelievably a bunch spawned on the hill where he is and was attacking him as I arrived. Of course he closed for days and when I eventually revisited him he complained implying I attacked him.

 

I've been past Lake Isabella a few times and seen the white Arabian horse on each occasion hanging around but not been ready to collect, when I was finally ready I revisit the lake, see the horse in the distance so I look through my binoculars and what do I see? It being attacked by yet more wolves. I kill them with my long scope rifle and the damn horse vanishes of the face of the planet! I kept hanging around in the hope it'll reappear but no, the only things that do is every other animal and the corpses of the wolves bouncing out the ground each time I come back.

 

Damn wolves.

[Haze88]

On 5/29/2022 at 1:41 PM, Caffeination said:

Dude, I just can’t tolerate the witness system in this game any longer. All I did was say hi to someone, he told me to bother someone else, I asked him what the hell his problem is, then he instantly aggro’d and wanted to punch me. For some weird reason, I was able to knock him out with one punch after dodging a left hook from him, and that somehow warranted an NPC to run like the wind to a lawman and report me for “unarmed assault” while refusing all my commands to stop him.
 

It is like these NPCs exist just to be annoying adversaries that supplement the already-annoying psychic law enforcement that appear out of thin air and home in on your exact location. This all correlates to the honor system as well, which is honestly meaningless and is basically just giving you two choices of toppings to put on your sundae.  
 

It’s not like RDR1’s honor system, which mattered and functioned well, and NPCs didn’t report for anything other than murder of you had a high enough or low enough honor. The lawmen in RDR1 also functioned somewhat organically and didn’t infinitely respawn, or take offense to insults from low honor John/Jack.

 

I would still say RDR2 is a better package overall, but it’s like Rockstar designed the law and honor system to ruin your mood. Even defending yourself from a guy who pulled his gun on you for not accepting his insults labels you as the aggressor, or beating up the trapper guy in Valentine who brags about murdering natives and insulting others, or killing one specific breed of pig and chicken while other breeds are fair game, or some specific turkeys that spawn by the serial killer’s shack southwest of Valentine and triggers NPCs to report you for “animal cruelty” if you kill/skin them… yeah, whatever.

 

"It's Arthur Morgan!" "How do you know?" Dude trust me" -presumably the random train passengers every robbery. Why train robberies are they only ones you can not ever do without an automatic bounty outside of exactly 1 tunnel on the map is beyond me, and it would be fine if the blurb about changing clothes worked but it doesn't How I was Identified in this outfit is beyond me and is absolutely the one massive flaw in this game outside not letting your gang hang out with you in free roam 

[Cutter De Blanc]

So what exactly gets Cleet and Joe to spawn in camp? I've completed both Mrs. Sadie Adler Widow missions, and the only mission on my map right now is Archeology for Beginners up at Wapiti. Dutch, Cleet and Joe are nowhere to be seen at camp. I would've thought Dutch at least would be at camp since he has no pending missions?

[AyyyLmao7496]

am i wrong or is the hungarian half bred supposed to spawn outside of valentine? I cant get one to spawn for horsemen 10. I left the area and slept for days and all I get are saddlers

[The Artist]

18 hours ago, AyyyLmao7496 said:

am i wrong or is the hungarian half bred supposed to spawn outside of valentine? I cant get one to spawn for horsemen 10. I left the area and slept for days and all I get are saddlers

don't remember exactly but I think yea they spawn outside Valentine

[Drimes]

On 6/7/2022 at 7:28 PM, Cutter De Blanc said:

So what exactly gets Cleet and Joe to spawn in camp? I've completed both Mrs. Sadie Adler Widow missions, and the only mission on my map right now is Archeology for Beginners up at Wapiti. Dutch, Cleet and Joe are nowhere to be seen at camp. I would've thought Dutch at least would be at camp since he has no pending missions?

Cleet and Joe are introduced by Micah in the mission "My Last Boy", as two people that he knows who can help with the upcoming train robbery. That's from the Red Dead wiki

[Cutter De Blanc]

3 hours ago, Drimes said:

Cleet and Joe are introduced by Micah in the mission "My Last Boy", as two people that he knows who can help with the upcoming train robbery. That's from the Red Dead wiki

Also from the wiki, from the Mrs. Sadie Adler, Widow mission page: 

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After this mission, Cleet and Joe will appear at camp. Even if this mission is done immediately before the mission "Our Best Selves", Arthur will react as if he has seen them before the opening cutscene. If Sadie's request for help is denied, they will not spawn until "Our Best Selves"

 

 

I actually meant to post that question in the Chronological missions order topic, I just posted in the wrong topic on accident 

Edited June 8 by Cutter De Blanc

[Jabalous]

Redemption 2 is one of the my best computer games experiences ever, but this video below explains well what irritates me, and makes me feel cringe, about the writing in the game.