You are all missing the entire point of the CEO/warehouse system

[Jammsbro]

 

The intention was nothing.

 

I don't care what anyone says, I genuinely think that rockstar are completely out of touch with what happens in public lobbies. I doubt many of them even enter them at all.

 

These things will have been playtested amongst themselves and with accounts in which they can simply "restock" with cash to keep on playing. When they were testing this, it would have been mates having a laugh, the gigantic and frustrating losses would not have registered with them as losses at all, because they can simply add more money to their account. When their characters need money they don't grind for a month or buy a shark card, the simply create it. So any loss means nothing.

 

Rockstar are out of touch with this game and how it's played. It is a freeroam deathmatch now and nothing else. All pretence of play, co-operation, teaming up, challenge and anything else left the building long ago and now all we have a roaming groups of enemies and solo trolls absolutely everywhere.

 

I think you're out of touch to be honest.

 

The balance of the game is now excellent, and if you have a few friends to play with in freemode lobbies it's even better. You can leave your CEO company for a while and help someone deliver a crate and then go back to money-making on your own.

 

Even when you're playing on your own you can easily gauge the aggression levels within a lobby and decide not to deliver valuable merchandise.

 

To say Rockstar just tests without any thought is really far out. They've thought about how freemode works really really well, and realise that people hate being stuck in the clouds or hanging around in lobbies while they populate. People just want to get on with playing the game at their own pace, while still making money.

 

And I'm making money in public lobbies easier than ever before, by carefully juggling crate shipments with other activities.

 

It's a shame you're having such a bad experience, but don't assume it's like that for everyone else. I'm really enjoying it.

 

I've played the game almost every single day for a year solid now. I think I know the score.

[Jimbatron]

Agree that buying and selling the stock through the warehouse isn't the best way to make money - and indeed the game shouldn't be all about that - some stuff can be fun even if you bank balance isn't going up.

 

However, I put it to you that it *OUGHT* to have been the best way to make money, simply because of the way the update was marketed. Become the king-pin of LS - how, by spending 10 years to make a 2.5% return on your investment?

 

A lot of missions, taking on rivals etc can all be seen in the criminal underworld as self preservation. Buying stock that has no use to you directly can only be for capital appreciation. If it's not more lucrative then other activities then you wouldn't do it.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of big pay-out/big risk. Imho they need to tweak the economics. I'm still enjoying the game for what its btw, it is just the balance doesn't feel right.

[Jammsbro]

And remember, the first thing we are messaged when we join now is to destroy other players cargo.

 

Hours of work, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and Rockstar want you to destroy it. Not steal it, not run a scam or heist, but to DESTROY it.

 

Rockstar have went out of their way to design a game system that can have you grind for hours with zero profit only to have every single thing you have worked for over the last several hours removed because of one small action or mistake or troll or arsehole.

 

Rockstar, are out of touch. Massively. This is absolutely the signal for the beginning of the end for this game.

[Jenkiiii]

And remember, the first thing we are messaged when we join now is to destroy other players cargo.

 

Hours of work, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and Rockstar want you to destroy it. Not steal it, not run a scam or heist, but to DESTROY it.

 

Rockstar have went out of their way to design a game system that can have you grind for hours with zero profit only to have every single thing you have worked for over the last several hours removed because of one small action or mistake or troll or arsehole.

 

Rockstar, are out of touch. Massively. This is absolutely the signal for the beginning of the end for this game.

 

I don't think you're right. I've not lost one delivery yet and still have a 100% record.

 

You're assuming your own unfortunate experiences are the same for everybody. It's got nothing to do with how many hours you've played, or how many crate runs you've made, but the fact you've lost a lot of time and money through deliveries. So you assume it's a nightmare for everyone else, when it's not, and Rockstar trolling everyone just because of your bad experiences. Come on man...

[Legate Meridius]

Not sure why the OP is so concerned with how other people make money in this game. Personally I prefer doing the new CEO work over grinding heists because it has something none of the heists have and that is variation. If I were to play Pac Standard continuously to make money, I would be bored after only 4-5 days and that's even if I was only doing the heist once per day. I'm going to play what I have fun doing in this game whether it's going to make me the most money per hour or not.

[DentureDynamite]

And remember, the first thing we are messaged when we join now is to destroy other players cargo.

 

Hours of work, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and Rockstar want you to destroy it. Not steal it, not run a scam or heist, but to DESTROY it.

 

Rockstar have went out of their way to design a game system that can have you grind for hours with zero profit only to have every single thing you have worked for over the last several hours removed because of one small action or mistake or troll or arsehole.

 

Rockstar, are out of touch. Massively. This is absolutely the signal for the beginning of the end for this game.

 

This is a deliberate system from R* to severely limit--and drain--the amount of money people not only already own in-game, but how much they can make given the amount of time and effort required to make a significant amount. A few timed runs and calculated costs incurred of any CEO work from buying to selling should convince anyone of that. Ill-Gotten Gains gouging on a daily basis.

 

e.g. Absurd millions for a one-floor "business", extra charges for a gun locker (and safe that does diddley-squat), charging to use vehicles you already own, paying $15,000 for Ghost Organization that doesn't even hide your cargo, or $12,000 just for bribing the pathetically overpowered cops? And tons more examples...

 

Like it or not, in some way we're all playing in R*'s Shark-Card casino.

 

At least on the PC, all it will do is just encourage cheaters to spawn even more money bags.

Edited June 13, 2016 by DentureDynamite

[brose_sfr]

I think it's pretty well established by now that collecting crates and selling them off is a mediocre way to make money. I make about a million dollars every other day utilizing VIP missions. It's easy, risk free and you can do it casually and still make a pretty decent chunk of change. I generally close out my GTA sessions by joining a public lobby and delivering a couple of crates, maybe 3 or 4, and always one at a time. Eventually I'll have 111 crates all purchased at the lowest price so that they can be sold (if I ever bother) at the maximum price. And therein lies the beauty of the system. I'm slowly putting money away for big gains down the line. It's not lining my pockets but someday, when there's a new helicopter or super car that I want, I can liquidate my assets and purchase my new toy without denting my actual wallet. In my world, this is what the CEO update is all about

 

 

a) this.

 

b) reported OP for using logic.

[Jenkiiii]

 

And remember, the first thing we are messaged when we join now is to destroy other players cargo.

 

Hours of work, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and Rockstar want you to destroy it. Not steal it, not run a scam or heist, but to DESTROY it.

 

Rockstar have went out of their way to design a game system that can have you grind for hours with zero profit only to have every single thing you have worked for over the last several hours removed because of one small action or mistake or troll or arsehole.

 

Rockstar, are out of touch. Massively. This is absolutely the signal for the beginning of the end for this game.

 

This is a deliberate system from R* to severely limit--and drain--the amount of money people not only already own in-game, but how much they can make given the amount of time and effort required to make a significant amount. A few timed runs and calculated costs incurred of any CEO work from buying to selling should convince anyone of that. Ill-Gotten Gains gouging on a daily basis.

 

e.g. Absurd millions for a one-floor "business", extra charges for a gun locker (and safe that does diddley-squat), charging to use vehicles you already own, paying $15,000 for Ghost Organization that doesn't even hide your cargo, or $12,000 just for bribing the pathetically overpowered cops? And tons more examples...

 

Like it or not, in some way we're all playing in R*'s Shark-Card casino.

 

At least on the PC, all it will do is just encourage cheaters to spawn even more money bags.

 

 

There's nothing worse than having tens of millions, or more, in the bank and nothing to spend it on. You feel like you've been duped by Rockstar into grinding hundreds of hours for nothing.

 

But once everyone spends all their money on new offices, warehouses, trucks, helicopters, etc, etc... everyone moans that Rockstar are depleting their cash through overpriced items, etc...

 

They can't win.

 

Yeah, I spent 19 million on the update, and got a little shaky at times at how much I'd blown on virtual and pointless trash, but I had so much fun spending all that cash, and the money was doing nothing besides just sitting in the bank waiting for an update just like this.

[fear_the_nut70]

Not sure why the OP is so concerned with how other people make money in this game. Personally I prefer doing the new CEO work over grinding heists because it has something none of the heists have and that is variation. If I were to play Pac Standard continuously to make money, I would be bored after only 4-5 days and that's even if I was only doing the heist once per day. I'm going to play what I have fun doing in this game whether it's going to make me the most money per hour or not.

 

I don't think this is a good read on your part. He never said "you should do this or you should do that." I think his main point was that people missed the point of this which is that never was meant to be the best money maker, so criticisms to that end miss the mark. But he certainly doesn't have a problem with you using this as your main form of making money if that is what you want to do. See the difference?

[fear_the_nut70]

 

 

And remember, the first thing we are messaged when we join now is to destroy other players cargo.

 

Hours of work, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and Rockstar want you to destroy it. Not steal it, not run a scam or heist, but to DESTROY it.

 

Rockstar have went out of their way to design a game system that can have you grind for hours with zero profit only to have every single thing you have worked for over the last several hours removed because of one small action or mistake or troll or arsehole.

 

Rockstar, are out of touch. Massively. This is absolutely the signal for the beginning of the end for this game.

 

This is a deliberate system from R* to severely limit--and drain--the amount of money people not only already own in-game, but how much they can make given the amount of time and effort required to make a significant amount. A few timed runs and calculated costs incurred of any CEO work from buying to selling should convince anyone of that. Ill-Gotten Gains gouging on a daily basis.

 

e.g. Absurd millions for a one-floor "business", extra charges for a gun locker (and safe that does diddley-squat), charging to use vehicles you already own, paying $15,000 for Ghost Organization that doesn't even hide your cargo, or $12,000 just for bribing the pathetically overpowered cops? And tons more examples...

 

Like it or not, in some way we're all playing in R*'s Shark-Card casino.

 

At least on the PC, all it will do is just encourage cheaters to spawn even more money bags.

 

 

There's nothing worse than having tens of millions, or more, in the bank and nothing to spend it on. You feel like you've been duped by Rockstar into grinding hundreds of hours for nothing.

 

But once everyone spends all their money on new offices, warehouses, trucks, helicopters, etc, etc... everyone moans that Rockstar are depleting their cash through overpriced items, etc...

 

They can't win.

 

Yeah, I spent 19 million on the update, and got a little shaky at times at how much I'd blown on virtual and pointless trash, but I had so much fun spending all that cash, and the money was doing nothing besides just sitting in the bank waiting for an update just like this.

 

 

Yeah, I agree with your line of thinking. To some extent, this guy is missing the point of this game too--for many of the players, it IS about buying stuff. That there is a lot more money in the game now means that it only makes sense that the stuff they put in the game would be bigger, more expensive. To listen to some people tell it, unless Rock Star puts really cool stuff in the game, charges very little for it, and for an update like this, the ROI is incredibly high (oh and throw in do it in a private lobby so there is virtually zero risk), these people aren't going to be happy. Maybe that video game does exist, but it was NEVER this one.

[fw3]

CEO/warehouse system is there to GENERATE CONTENT... every time someone jumps in a jet, or goes off radar and rams you in a car, and you associates have to fend them off.....THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE CEO/ WAREHOUSE SYSTEM.

The start of your comment would benefit from an "in my opinion," as it's not the only point of the new update.

 

In my opinion, you make a good point about one aspect of the new update.

 

However, there are multiple purposes and advantages to participating with the new update:

• good ol' fashioned fun

• keep the game updated, fix problems and concerns, update elements, etc.

• make money for Rockstar via driving desire of consumers to acquire the latest & greatest

• stimulate in-game activity and interest with new potential for players

• bring the crew-based methodology into a new concentric format, to overlap and create a new way to play the game

• market the existing game to new markets and consumers, promoting a higher level of gameplay than just shoot n' run.

• allow me to dominate and be the CEO magnus (ha! just seeing if you're still reading!)

• possibly help to remove a gulp of the modified money floating around GTAO

• possibly to give veteran players a new level focus and ability in the game to allow newer players to come onboard, without concern

• possibly open opportunities to allow veteran players the opportunity to facilitate money-making efforts for newer players, without implementing cheats or glitches

 

Again, these are just possible points to the update, in my own opinion. I could be wrong.

 

But again, I agree with your initial point. Cheers!

[handcuff_charlie]

 

 

Dunno about the Op and others here, but imho CEO can net you more money. A CEO mission with 3 crates takes max 5 mins to complete and nets you 18k profit. VIP Missions take the same amount of time but you will get 5-10 mins cooldown.

 

So, if im lucky i can make 180k to 210k profit from CEO work in 1 Hour, where VIP Missions will give you 23k max profit every 10 mins, which nets in 128k max.

 

All you need is 2 warehouses for the Contraband to skip the cooldown.

I'm not here to tell you or anyone what to do or how to play. If people want to grind, grind for all I care. The only thing I think should be actively prohibited is exploiting game glitches to gain advantages over other players.

 

With that being said, you may have an opinion, but your opinion doesn't change simple math.

Crates are NOT as efficient a way to earn money, EVEN if you had ZERO interference....which is what 99% of all the rage posts are about these days. These folks raging because they want to make GTA$ as fast as possible are wasting their time by doing crates when they could be earning more with less frustration doing VIP challenges/work with random other freemode stuff lightly mixed in when the timing is right (blue modded sentinels, bounties, freemode events, etc)

Who cares bruh. It's fun for some of us, GTF over it..

 

Uuhhh, whut bruh?

 

I love the new update. It's all the raging from kiddies getting their crates blown up and acting like the other player has done something wrong is what I'm talking about.

 

GTF over it.

[Smooth Longsack]

By buying three cargo at a time and selling them at the 111 price point, it's worth $38k per buying mission. That's the best money you can make solo.

[SmokesWithCigs]

I'm not that much of a PvP person. I'm rarely in the mode.leave that stuff to the VIP jobs and challenges. I went to pick up some crates in the sea and those guys in the boats had mini guns. Imagine how much harder it would've been dealing with other players matter of fact somebody did try to bust up my operation but I put a bounty on him to drive hm away. Add to the fact that I had to pay 18k to start the mission and you only get 2k to bust up my deal come on charlie.to guys who are super rich in this game PvP is no problem but I'm down to 4 mil .

I was down to 2 mil but thanks to the paccstandard heist well tnats another story I'm starting to ramble here. I'm down to 2 mil when I had 9 mil. I'm trying to come up. I got over 600k in stock and I've sold over 30k so far. Every body reacts to PvP differently and I swear if I'm making a sale of product that's totals to 400k and some idiot s fees that up I'm gonna go crazy and take it out on the whole lobby.

[gtafan26]

I agree, this update is not the best method to make money, but I am enjoying it for the most part, and I am just past halfway on getting my investment back( sooner if I played more).

[Joey McCoy]

People can use it to grind, no problem. I just don't see why making multiple threads complaining about jets and why you shouldn't destroy crates, it's a public lobby ffs. 100% agree on the Hydra cool-down tho, 1hr is maybe too much but 20min would work great.

I agree. When somebody is delivering or retrieving crates, other players in the lobby are given the objective to "Destroy crates". Rockstar intended for more freemode competition and interactions with players.

[CarimboHanky]

The problem with the update is you aren't really a CEO, you're just a person that spent a ton of money to have people work under you and help with piddly missions occasionally.

 

I want an update that changes this system to where you can set up a line of missions and your associates go out and do them while you do something else.

well thats basically this update...

 

you set up the pick up and have your associates do the dirty work, while you can do other stuff. im sure competent associates can fly a buzzard and pick up some crates.

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

It is NOT meant to be your moneymaker/grind.

 

 

Even if you could just do it solo in an invite only room, you still will not make nearly as much money over the same amount of time than had you just did Headhunter/Hostile Takeover + Salvage over and over again over the same period of time. Throw in a bounty here and there, a daily objective, sell a blue modded sentinel when midnight rolls around.....you will be WAY ahead in $ than spending all your time filling warehouses and getting frustrated at people playing the game as intended.

 

 

 

This CEO/warehouse system, while it does pay to a certain extent, it is clearly not there to be THE money maker, it is there to GENERATE CONTENT.....so every time someone jumps in a jet, or goes off radar and rams you in a car, and you associates have to fend them off.....THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE CEO/ WAREHOUSE SYSTEM.

 

It is simple math. You will get $2.2 million for 37 large shipments at a BASE cost of $666k PLUS whatever ghost org you spent, how ever many personal vehicles you blew up (I always go after people in my T20), plus ammo, etc etc......the cost simply pile up and pile up...

 

The MOST profit you can make if no one bothers you and you dont have to fire a shot to defend your purchases and you spend nothing to sell your goods is....

$1.54mil.....but the reality is you are eating into that big time with all the other expenses, in reality you will be lucky to clear $1mil in profit, maybe 1.1mil or 1.2mil.

 

And how long does it all take? It took me probably close to 6-8 hours, maybe more just to fill my large warehouse with large shipments. So 8 hours to make MAYBE $1mil? AND you need a lot of things to go right? Namely no interference with the delivery......can you not see that this is clearly NOT intended to be a money grind?

 

If you want/"need" game cash, the VIP work/challenges is where it is at. You need to focus on the ones that do not run on a timer (headhunter/hostile takeover + Salvage)

 

You could actually make a lot more $ if you could fill a playlist lobby full of 10minute deathmatches and captures, but that never happens anymore.....so the VIP work/challenges is the only realistic option.

Eh true thats why I do heist, but the problem is with this is people can destroy ur crates and don't well if u don't protect ur crates its ur fault. No 1. of all I'm on the part where crates come sepearetly so when I order 3 crates I have to deliver them to the warehouse one at a time. There isn't really a possible way to protect the other crates because my friends usually aren't online. 2. Its f*cking annoying when some dumbass bitch comes with there hydra and blows me up with there machine guns or built in homing lauchers. 3. Ur probably saying well its a game where u can do crime well if u can do crime how come u can't steal a personal vehicle and store it in ur gargage ? Also if u destroy a personal vehicle that belongs to someone else u have to pay for insurance . Also if u destroy too many vehicles that other people own u go to bad sports lobbies. Come on rockstar the game is named grand theft auto for a reason also u can't store npc sports or super cars in ur garage. So what I said right there u can't deny any of it. Good luck coming up for a reason on saying to destroy crates u only get 2k dollars, ammo and rp. Good luck explaining to me why I'm an idiot for complaining about players destroying my cargo.

[Skeve613]

Making decent money should consist of several options with pros and cons to each. Because everything ultimately revolves around having money in this game, it shouldn't be a matter of deciding whether one is going to grind in order to have fun later, or try to have in the moment while making much less money or even losing money.

 

This is why I don't hold it against people who glitched or hacked their cash - if I had done it myself before accumulating enough money legitimately to make the risk not worthwhile, I would certainly have had more fun per time spent playing.

[GTA_dog]

So basically, don't do them?

Ha, I do what the f*ck I want. I made more money selling crates and doing VIP work by myself than if I did missions and heists with randoms. "But you could play pac standard." I've played it to death, I kinda want less of a challenge and less loading screens. It's another way to make easy money, don't tell me I'm doing it wrong. You don't know me or my life.

Edited June 15, 2016 by YngDady

[gtafan26]

So basically, don't do them?

Ha, I do what the f*ck I want. I made more money selling crates and doing VIP work by myself than if I did missions and heists with randoms. "But you could play pac standard." I've played it to death, I kinda want less of a challenge and less loading screens. It's another way to make easy money, don't tell me I'm doing it wrong. You don't know me or my life.

No loading screens, best part about it.

[iddqdvie]

normally i buy everything without thinking about it. I've been too busy recently to play but after reading the forum there is no way i'm doing ceo stuff. If only i was busy when the yachts came out. 15 million just sitting in the bay taunting me.

 

u dont do ceo stuff cause u read sh*t in here? please just go and do ceo stuff!!!

[Nutduster]

And remember, the first thing we are messaged when we join now is to destroy other players cargo.

 

Hours of work, hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and Rockstar want you to destroy it. Not steal it, not run a scam or heist, but to DESTROY it.

 

Rockstar have went out of their way to design a game system that can have you grind for hours with zero profit only to have every single thing you have worked for over the last several hours removed because of one small action or mistake or troll or arsehole.

 

Rockstar, are out of touch. Massively. This is absolutely the signal for the beginning of the end for this game.

 

That's a huge overreaction. While there are problems with this new system (some of them big ones), it's generally a fun and at least halfway thought-out blast of content. If my friends list is any indication, we're nowhere near the end of GTA Online. I still have more friends playing this than any other one or two games by far. Of course, that doesn't mean Rockstar shouldn't improve on their failings here. Payouts need to be higher - probably double what they are now would be reasonable, given the risk they're asking you to deal with in order to buy and sell. And whether they increase payouts or not, they should let you do this in non-public lobbies. There is AI resistance on MOST of the jobs, I can't understand the public requirement at all.

 

I do think the "destroy" imperative is a shame though. What a missed opportunity. Stealing cargo from other players to take to your own warehouse should absolutely be an option. I'd actually try to steal cargo; I can't be bothered to destroy it for $2000 and them trolling lulz.

 

Another refinement to this system (though I doubt they'll ever make it) is that buys should not be warehouse-specific. If you own more than one, you should be able to take your cargo anywhere there is room for it.

Edited June 15, 2016 by Nutduster

[TeammateHelper]

I really wish we could steal cargo instead.

 

Although I sort of see why it isn't possible: do a lobby split, invite a friend, then pass money to friend bybuying crates and letting him steal it.

 

And we all know how Rockstar is about sharing money.

[fear_the_nut70]

Man, the people who want to run this new update in private lobbies really don't understand what this update is all about--it was supposed to be a hybrid of missions & VIP, something totally different in the game. Put it in private lobbies where you only have to survive NPC's, and you basically have the old missions that most of us have played to death. SMDH.

[Str33tJustus]

Man, the people who want to run this new update in private lobbies really don't understand what this update is all about--it was supposed to be a hybrid of missions & VIP, something totally different in the game. Put it in private lobbies where you only have to survive NPC's, and you basically have the old missions that most of us have played to death. SMDH.

Which is fine because crates pay more and we've been asking for new contact missions, also less loading screens. Not sure how any of this is a bad thing?

[Nyamber]

Man, the people who want to run this new update in private lobbies really don't understand what this update is all about--it was supposed to be a hybrid of missions & VIP, something totally different in the game. Put it in private lobbies where you only have to survive NPC's, and you basically have the old missions that most of us have played to death. SMDH.

...People WANT new contact missions... Where have you been for the past 3 years?

[malcolmfunktion]

Blue modded Sentinel?, wait till midnight?....what's this I hear?

[hispls]

 

Spot on, its a competitive gamemode and people are trying to find ways to do it solo haha, its bizarre. Especially as like you say, you make more money doing VIP missions anyway.

 

 

You have yet to answer why you care what others do for fun? Is this some new kind of autism?

 

Some day, perhaps, when you move out of mom's house and get adult friends with adult lives and responsibilities you may realize that some people have other things going on and can't be bothered to be 100% focused on being competitive at video games.

 

The majority of adults I play with are generally only half focused on the game at any given time because they have children running around, a wife, or are just unwinding by themselves having a few drinks or smoking grass and joking around with friends in chat.

 

Get a life, get a job, get laid, and you won't be so concerned with competitive video game play. Learn to live and let live and life will be a lot less upsetting for you.

 

Grinding for cash in gta is pointless period, most intelligent players aquire cheated money and then play the activities for fun without worrying about money.

 

I agree with OP, the new mode is better just to have fun and change freemode PvP.

 

When I bought the game on PS4 (after playing it a few times through story mode on PS3) I took advantage of the stock market glitch to get billions for each character early on. It was fun for a few hours shopping, but in the long run I don't think I even bothered finishing the game on that save file.

 

I haven't even really looked, but I imagine that cheating money in GTAO likely requires less intelligence than rooting a smartphone (10 minutes of google searching and a USB stick).

 

Whatever makes you happy though I guess.

 

 

Same, paying money to be blown up by randoms isn't really fun for me.

 

 

 

Agreed. There's a fine line between a fun challenge and just paying to be everybody's moving target for 10 minutes, but after you've crossed that line you know it and begin shopping around for a more balanced session.

 

You know those infomercials where they chop a lot of tomatoes with their knives? I use those knives for chopping tomatoes only. That is the only point of those knives... well, except for that other point at the tip that is.

It is very important to only use a product exactly how the seller intends you to.

 

You're WRONG. You need to cut through a tin can and then slice the tomatoes. (do they even have that commercial any more?)

 

Either way, doing anything different than what you see on the commercial makes you a weak person and you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

just wait till gta 6 comes out. by then rockstar will have mastered the art of milking little kids for all they are worth. gta 5 was just a test run to see how much they could get away with. half a billion dollars later the answer is almost anything and kids will still buy cash cards.

 

The dirty little secret is that "the way the game is intended to be played" = spending real life money on microtransactions (or at 100$ a shot, perhaps these are macrotransactions?)

 

If you're not buying shark cards you're playing the game wrong and should be at the verge of suicide from the shame of it all.

 

I don't make any lettuce sitting around waiting for people that never join a playlist.

 

Buy 3 crates

 

Headhunter

 

Sell a sentinel

 

Buy 3 crates

 

Headhunter

 

Sell crates

 

Buy 3 crates

 

This formula is making me very rich.

 

 

 

 

 

Try doing a similar routine without shagging crates in between (everything else has zero risk up front).

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying the new stuff for something new to do, but as OP says, it's not the road to riches.

 

 

I agree Pac Std WOULD be the best way IF you have 3 friends ready to go and spend zero time dicking around with loading screens, stupid failures, etc etc.....but that is not the case for 90% of the time with Pac Std.

 

If you're on PS4, friend me (my username) and hit me up. Pac Standard is simplicity itself once you have a friend list full of heist players. It could almost be done solo. For the most part you can do it while you're reading your emails and watching youtube videos.

 

Bang that out for a couple hours then you can afford to lose every package, spam ghost organization, or do whatever you like with the red and green boxes for the next 6-8 hours without sweating trying to turn a profit.

 

At this point about the only return I expect on crates is turning my office into a scene from that show that features compulsive hoarders (just need a few dozen cats to really complete immersion).

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Man, the people who want to run this new update in private lobbies really don't understand what this update is all about--it was supposed to be a hybrid of missions & VIP, something totally different in the game. Put it in private lobbies where you only have to survive NPC's, and you basically have the old missions that most of us have played to death. SMDH.

 

The people who care how other people want to play this new update really don't understand adult life or the fact that the world doesn't revolve around them, everybody isn't just like them, not everybody has to like what you like, and that nobody really cares what you think.

 

I've seen some really clever role play scenarios and styles posted here already and I'm sure there's many more. No skin off my nose if someone only plays this game for races, only kills cops, only kills certain gang members, or whatever else helps them enjoy their leisure time.

 

Also what's really wrong with here and there you pay for a package and pick up and deliver it with no trouble whatsoever? If picking up a truckload of stolen smokes turned into the battle at Guadal Canal every f*ing time do you think you'd see cigarettes with no tax stamps on them at every bodega in NYC? One could make a good case that the level of resistance by NPC gangs and police is still way over the top when compared to the reality of organized crime.