You are all missing the entire point of the CEO/warehouse system

[RetardOfTheYear]

Depend how players want to see it, I first wanted to see if it could be a cash machine, I quickly find it was not, but yeah it make a bit of variation between other grind. Some pretend they make 300+k /hours with cargo, I don't really believe it but if they are conviced they do it, then have fun doing it.

 

One thing is sure, if you just want to get max cash, excluding cheating and glitching, grinding pac standard with 3 other decent player is most probably the best way to go, maybe some elite fleeca from time to time as well.

[Dragon_Of_Tragedy]

I don't make any lettuce sitting around waiting for people that never join a playlist.

 

Buy 3 crates

 

Headhunter

 

Sell a sentinel

 

Buy 3 crates

 

Headhunter

 

Sell crates

 

Buy 3 crates

 

This formula is making me very rich.

 

 

 

Edited June 13, 2016 by jerryinohio78

[Furry_Monkey]

I've had two 111 crate sales destroyed by members within my own team who were not even being attacked. Can you believe that?

That's probably $2 million dollars I LOST. Not lost making, but LOST. I played the game for two days and sold cars and LOST $2 million.

 

 

Hands down this is my favourite post you've ever made. I LOVE it!

[vishesh_91]

WOW,this is exactly what was needed here.

[TheFoot743]

idk about you guys, but I've made 10 mill in the last 4 days from sales. Easily fill my ammo and explosive rounds all day, and get the side cash toward using ghost during my pick ups. This is definitely an easy way to make millions, and it makes you step your map awareness/strat skills up. Simply said.. If you're struggling and bitching, you're not placing the puzzles pieces in the right areas..

[Nick930930]

It is NOT in place to give you something to be your moneymaker/grind.

 

 

Even if you could just do it solo in an invite only room, you still will not make nearly as much money over the same amount of time than had you just did Headhunter/Hostile Takeover + Salvage over and over again over the same period of time. Throw in a bounty here and there, a daily objective, sell a blue modded sentinel when midnight rolls around.....you will be WAY ahead in $ than spending all your time filling warehouses and getting frustrated at people playing the game as intended.

 

 

 

This CEO/warehouse system, while it does pay to a certain extent, it is clearly not there to be THE money maker, it is there to GENERATE CONTENT.....so every time someone jumps in a jet, or goes off radar and rams you in a car, and you associates have to fend them off.....THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE CEO/ WAREHOUSE SYSTEM.

 

It is simple math. You will get $2.2 million for 37 large shipments at a BASE cost of $666k PLUS whatever ghost org you spent, how ever many personal vehicles you blew up (I always go after people in my T20), plus ammo, etc etc......the cost simply pile up and pile up...

 

The MOST profit you can make if no one bothers you and you dont have to fire a shot to defend your purchases and you spend nothing to sell your goods is....

$1.54mil.....but the reality is you are eating into that big time with all the other expenses, in reality you will be lucky to clear $1mil in profit, maybe 1.1mil or 1.2mil.

 

And how long does it all take? It took me probably close to 6-8 hours, maybe more just to fill my large warehouse with large shipments. So 8 hours to make MAYBE $1mil? AND you need a lot of things to go right? Namely no interference with the delivery......can you not see that this is clearly NOT intended to be a money grind?

 

If you want/"need" game cash, the VIP work/challenges is where it is at. You need to focus on the ones that do not run on a timer (headhunter/hostile takeover + Salvage)

 

You could actually make a lot more $ if you could fill a playlist lobby full of 10minute deathmatches and captures, but that never happens anymore.....so the VIP work/challenges is the only realistic option.

 

The point of CEO missions is to have freemode feel more active and alive. Players are now grinding in freemode and it's a lot more fun this way. The missions are more dynamic than the typical contact missions making for a more fun experience.

 

VIP work is dangerous to play now in a public session. Players will jump at the chance to stop you from completing your VIP work now that they're actively looking for things to do in freemode. Me and my crew defended a single target in headhunter and refused to let these 2 players assassinate one of the targets. We killed them for 6 minutes straight and only recieved $8000. Same thing happened against me in a headhunter. About 8 players were standing on the pier sniping me repeatedly preventing me from even accessing my pause menu to exit the game.

 

 

 

So no.. VIP work is not the best way to grind money, not even close. It's fun to do inbetween crate shipments. And crate shipments are a great way to get some extra money on the side. If you do a few crate shipments every day and then sell when you filled your warehouse, you'll get a nice hefty bonus to the money you've earned throughout the week just playing the game.

 

The #1 best way to make money is STILL Pacific Standard. It's fast and a guaranteed $250,000 if you play with a good team.

[badnews]

The problem with the update is you aren't really a CEO, you're just a person that spent a ton of money to have people work under you and help with piddly missions occasionally.

 

I want an update that changes this system to where you can set up a line of missions and your associates go out and do them while you do something else.

Yeah man, I want a similar thing, but it can work sort of in this way because as soon as you start the mission, your associates get the mission details come up, you dont have to go with them, so you can do other things, I had some mates helping while I rolled a joint and did afew things and had character in office and I would just start another crate job on a different warehouse as soon as they finished one and they would go and get the next lot, in theory I could have been doing other things, I just happened to be AFK, but when I was helping associates on the crates, I would escort them most of the way to warehouse and then turn off and head back to office to start next one as soon as that one was complete. Its not perfect but its a step in the right direction I think, and at least they made it all work within freemode, makes things much more fun.

 

Edited June 13, 2016 by badnews

[rlk232]

A few points, first off, you can make decent money once you get good at it. You need two warehouses, one L and one M works. Secondly, get good at mixing up your heli use, e.g. use the Maverick when you can, because it's so easy to land that it saves time. Then third and most importantly, do the sales by yourself or with one friend as passenger, with approx 25 (min # of crates to hit 16k each) cargo items at a time. This isn't overly hard solo and usually takes approx 10 min.

 

Utilizing this method, I can make approx 160k per hour solo, 220k hourly with 1 helper and 280k with 2 friends. Buy 3 crates at a time, you'll need to get good at it and memorize all the possible missions to save time; the worst is when it says "go out to sea", that'll take like 10-12 min solo if you're fast. Several of them only take 4-5 min. Call Lester to drop your wanted level, don't waste money on bribe authorities.

 

I now can get approx 6.5 3 crate pick ups per hour, that's let's say 19 crates, paying $6k each, selling for 16k each. I'm spending probably 10-20k per hour on armor, weapons, Lester etc., so the net profit is about 160-170k hourly. Also, keep in mind that each special item nets profit of $110k, approx, and will come up once per 4-5 hours if you do 6.5 runs per hour, so add about 25k to your hourly profit and it's nearly 200k solo if you are time efficient. It's not a huge profit solo, relative to investment especially but it's not awful. It pays GREAT with 2 friends though.

[iddqdvie]

a 8 cargo delivery can sell for 150k+ in a full lobby, thats totally ok for me!

 

its free roam! its no loading screen, no stupid cutscene, its always a little different!

 

i played all the heists ONE TIME ONLY, they are story missions and i dont like repeating stories. heists where a let down to me. just some missions put together, i didnt give a f*ck for that. and the aircraft carrier wasnt even in freeroam....

 

now i can get on the roof to buzzard and go do something productive while having a thrill. i even earn money with it. more than ever before. as simple and eventually lazy as this system is; ceo work over anything else. i dont care if i vsn make more money with doing the same heist a thousand times when i could simply BUY a CASHCARD. bit with this new ceo update? i love the grind for money now!

[handcuff_charlie]

Dunno about the Op and others here, but imho CEO can net you more money. A CEO mission with 3 crates takes max 5 mins to complete and nets you 18k profit. VIP Missions take the same amount of time but you will get 5-10 mins cooldown.

 

So, if im lucky i can make 180k to 210k profit from CEO work in 1 Hour, where VIP Missions will give you 23k max profit every 10 mins, which nets in 128k max.

 

All you need is 2 warehouses for the Contraband to skip the cooldown.

 

I'm not here to tell you or anyone what to do or how to play. If people want to grind, grind for all I care. The only thing I think should be actively prohibited is exploiting game glitches to gain advantages over other players.

 

With that being said, you may have an opinion, but your opinion doesn't change simple math.

Crates are NOT as efficient a way to earn money, EVEN if you had ZERO interference....which is what 99% of all the rage posts are about these days. These folks raging because they want to make GTA$ as fast as possible are wasting their time by doing crates when they could be earning more with less frustration doing VIP challenges/work with random other freemode stuff lightly mixed in when the timing is right (blue modded sentinels, bounties, freemode events, etc)

[handcuff_charlie]

A few points, first off, you can make decent money once you get good at it. You need two warehouses, one L and one M works. Secondly, get good at mixing up your heli use, e.g. use the Maverick when you can, because it's so easy to land that it saves time. Then third and most importantly, do the sales by yourself or with one friend as passenger, with approx 25 (min # of crates to hit 16k each) cargo items at a time. This isn't overly hard solo and usually takes approx 10 min.

 

Utilizing this method, I can make approx 160k per hour solo, 220k hourly with 1 helper and 280k with 2 friends. Buy 3 crates at a time, you'll need to get good at it and memorize all the possible missions to save time; the worst is when it says "go out to sea", that'll take like 10-12 min solo if you're fast. Several of them only take 4-5 min. Call Lester to drop your wanted level, don't waste money on bribe authorities.

 

I now can get approx 6.5 3 crate pick ups per hour, that's let's say 19 crates, paying $6k each, selling for 16k each. I'm spending probably 10-20k per hour on armor, weapons, Lester etc., so the net profit is about 160-170k hourly. Also, keep in mind that each special item nets profit of $110k, approx, and will come up once per 4-5 hours if you do 6.5 runs per hour, so add about 25k to your hourly profit and it's nearly 200k solo if you are time efficient. It's not a huge profit solo, relative to investment especially but it's not awful. It pays GREAT with 2 friends though.

Perhaps, but notice all those things you cite that have to go right?...all those "if's"

VIP Work/challenges have no "if's" and cost you nothing, nada, zippo, it is pure profit as fast as you can do them. With one associate you can run salvage fairly quickly to keep earning during the headhunter/hostile takeover cooldown...with multiple associates salvage goes very quickly and if you finish 1st you win something like 17 or 20k, then straight back into headhunter/hostile takeover in your buzzard for another 20k+ for 3-4 minutes of time spent, then back into salvage .....rinse repeat.

 

The crates are great for content/gameplay. Yes you get paid but the real benefit is the action that is creates in freemode. This is what Los Santos was always SUPPOSED to be like IMHO

[elfoam]

Depend how players want to see it, I first wanted to see if it could be a cash machine, I quickly find it was not, but yeah it make a bit of variation between other grind. Some pretend they make 300+k /hours with cargo, I don't really believe it but if they are conviced they do it, then have fun doing it.

 

One thing is sure, if you just want to get max cash, excluding cheating and glitching, grinding pac standard with 3 other decent player is most probably the best way to go, maybe some elite fleeca from time to time as well.

Im doing 300k+ solo. Already sold 300 crates.

[handcuff_charlie]

 

It is NOT in place to give you something to be your moneymaker/grind.

 

 

Even if you could just do it solo in an invite only room, you still will not make nearly as much money over the same amount of time than had you just did Headhunter/Hostile Takeover + Salvage over and over again over the same period of time. Throw in a bounty here and there, a daily objective, sell a blue modded sentinel when midnight rolls around.....you will be WAY ahead in $ than spending all your time filling warehouses and getting frustrated at people playing the game as intended.

 

 

 

This CEO/warehouse system, while it does pay to a certain extent, it is clearly not there to be THE money maker, it is there to GENERATE CONTENT.....so every time someone jumps in a jet, or goes off radar and rams you in a car, and you associates have to fend them off.....THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE CEO/ WAREHOUSE SYSTEM.

 

It is simple math. You will get $2.2 million for 37 large shipments at a BASE cost of $666k PLUS whatever ghost org you spent, how ever many personal vehicles you blew up (I always go after people in my T20), plus ammo, etc etc......the cost simply pile up and pile up...

 

The MOST profit you can make if no one bothers you and you dont have to fire a shot to defend your purchases and you spend nothing to sell your goods is....

$1.54mil.....but the reality is you are eating into that big time with all the other expenses, in reality you will be lucky to clear $1mil in profit, maybe 1.1mil or 1.2mil.

 

And how long does it all take? It took me probably close to 6-8 hours, maybe more just to fill my large warehouse with large shipments. So 8 hours to make MAYBE $1mil? AND you need a lot of things to go right? Namely no interference with the delivery......can you not see that this is clearly NOT intended to be a money grind?

 

If you want/"need" game cash, the VIP work/challenges is where it is at. You need to focus on the ones that do not run on a timer (headhunter/hostile takeover + Salvage)

 

You could actually make a lot more $ if you could fill a playlist lobby full of 10minute deathmatches and captures, but that never happens anymore.....so the VIP work/challenges is the only realistic option.

 

The point of CEO missions is to have freemode feel more active and alive. Players are now grinding in freemode and it's a lot more fun this way. The missions are more dynamic than the typical contact missions making for a more fun experience.

 

VIP work is dangerous to play now in a public session. Players will jump at the chance to stop you from completing your VIP work now that they're actively looking for things to do in freemode. Me and my crew defended a single target in headhunter and refused to let these 2 players assassinate one of the targets. We killed them for 6 minutes straight and only recieved $8000. Same thing happened against me in a headhunter. About 8 players were standing on the pier sniping me repeatedly preventing me from even accessing my pause menu to exit the game.

 

 

 

So no.. VIP work is not the best way to grind money, not even close. It's fun to do inbetween crate shipments. And crate shipments are a great way to get some extra money on the side. If you do a few crate shipments every day and then sell when you filled your warehouse, you'll get a nice hefty bonus to the money you've earned throughout the week just playing the game.

 

The #1 best way to make money is STILL Pacific Standard. It's fast and a guaranteed $250,000 if you play with a good team.

 

No offense but a buzzard/hydra makes headhunter a 4 minute job.

What you cite as making vip work risky, applies even more to crates, not only can other players converge to deny you your crates, but YOU LOSE MONEY SPENT....up to 18k. If players stop me from completing headhunter, I STILL get paid and it costs me nothing.

 

I agree Pac Std WOULD be the best way IF you have 3 friends ready to go and spend zero time dicking around with loading screens, stupid failures, etc etc.....but that is not the case for 90% of the time with Pac Std.

 

VIP work/challenges require the least effort for the most return.

[Ornacia]

 

 

You could actually make a lot more $ if you could fill a playlist lobby full of 10minute deathmatches and captures, but that never happens anymore....

 

 

 

 

I miss when people used to play actual deathamatches, when this "parkour" bs didn't exist. Now you're lucky if you can get 1 person to join a deathmatch.

Edited June 13, 2016 by FrankieGTA

[handcuff_charlie]

 

You could actually make a lot more $ if you could fill a playlist lobby full of 10minute deathmatches and captures, but that never happens anymore....

 

I really do miss when people used to play actual deathamatches, when this "parkour" bs didn't exist. Now you're lucky if you can get 1 person to join a deatmatch.

 

I somehow managed to get 6 people in a GTA capture with a 10 minute timer....I'm guessing they all had the same daily objective as me......and in 10 minutes the winning team made $22k and the losing team 12 or 15k, ramp that up to multiple rounds with the new bonus from the update and it is a much more fun way to make money than grinding.

 

I used to be able to just turn on auto-invite and fill 16 person rooms semi-regularly on PS3, then I came to PS4 and have NEVER seen more than 10 in a room and I have only seen 10 twice in the year since I switched. The game is totally transformed. So much kiddie "parkour", lame "X versus Y", and repetitve half-baked uber-epic-stunt-jump races that flooded the servers have ruined the other game modes.

[Jenkiiii]

The whole point of collecting and selling crates is you don't need to leave freemode in order to continue making money, that's about it.

 

There's quite a long cooldown after completing a VIP mission, so you can go and collect a few crates, kick off a VIP challenge, sell a car, etc... but you no longer the need grind contact missions or something like that, which takes you away from the lobby, your friends, enemies, etc...

 

It's all about retaining the fluid and immersive GTA experience.

[guster-von]

I have heists mastered. They are fun to do with the right people or if I am helping someone out. I can knock out Pac Standard in an hour with the right crew. Heists in my opinion, can feel like a chore over time.

I have been enjoying this CEO update extensively. I have noticed that in freemode with my friends has gone from purely f*cking around, chatting and just wasting time in GTA:O to actually accomplishing something or at least having a GTA:O purpose.

 

The varied is welcomed...

[aaronBLUEeyes]

I think the best balance is to perform VIP challenges and work between CEO buy missions to pay your associates and cover buy mission crate costs.

 

It also helps to mix things up and keep things fresh.

Edited June 13, 2016 by aaronBLUEeyes

[scalliano]

Public sessions glitch out for me on PC as they're always empty. I was going to try and fix it but I find that I appreciate the peace and quiet just a bit too much. Besides, the NPCs are enough of a pain in the arse during 3-crate pickups that I'm having fun all the same.

 

Also no hackers

[Jammsbro]

The intention was nothing.

 

I don't care what anyone says, I genuinely think that rockstar are completely out of touch with what happens in public lobbies. I doubt many of them even enter them at all.

 

These things will have been playtested amongst themselves and with accounts in which they can simply "restock" with cash to keep on playing. When they were testing this, it would have been mates having a laugh, the gigantic and frustrating losses would not have registered with them as losses at all, because they can simply add more money to their account. When their characters need money they don't grind for a month or buy a shark card, the simply create it. So any loss means nothing.

 

Rockstar are out of touch with this game and how it's played. It is a freeroam deathmatch now and nothing else. All pretence of play, co-operation, teaming up, challenge and anything else left the building long ago and now all we have a roaming groups of enemies and solo trolls absolutely everywhere.

[nWo_Y2J_2015]

I don't really have to assume. It is obvious.

[AUScowboy]

 

Dunno about the Op and others here, but imho CEO can net you more money. A CEO mission with 3 crates takes max 5 mins to complete and nets you 18k profit. VIP Missions take the same amount of time but you will get 5-10 mins cooldown.

 

So, if im lucky i can make 180k to 210k profit from CEO work in 1 Hour, where VIP Missions will give you 23k max profit every 10 mins, which nets in 128k max.

 

All you need is 2 warehouses for the Contraband to skip the cooldown.

I'm not here to tell you or anyone what to do or how to play. If people want to grind, grind for all I care. The only thing I think should be actively prohibited is exploiting game glitches to gain advantages over other players.

 

With that being said, you may have an opinion, but your opinion doesn't change simple math.

Crates are NOT as efficient a way to earn money, EVEN if you had ZERO interference....which is what 99% of all the rage posts are about these days. These folks raging because they want to make GTA$ as fast as possible are wasting their time by doing crates when they could be earning more with less frustration doing VIP challenges/work with random other freemode stuff lightly mixed in when the timing is right (blue modded sentinels, bounties, freemode events, etc)

Who cares bruh. It's fun for some of us, GTF over it..

[cipher656]

normally i buy everything without thinking about it. I've been too busy recently to play but after reading the forum there is no way i'm doing ceo stuff. If only i was busy when the yachts came out. 15 million just sitting in the bay taunting me.

[fear_the_nut70]

I completely agree with the OP. I like the idea of having another method of liquid assets that I can cash in and sell should I ever need to, sort of like the old Adder/T20 bonds. Something cool about just walking around my warehouses and seeing all that stuff that I have collected that feels good. Gives me something to do with mountains of cash that was just sitting there that is new an refreshing. There are better ways to make money, and when that's what I am after, I do those things. As I keep filling these up (almost have 2 filled up), it also feels like I am a real kingpin because of what I now own and because I have others working under me. I know that others don't feel that way, and that is ok. Me, I love this update because it adds something completely different to the game (a hybird of VIP and mission work) that just didn't exists before it. Not everything is just about money to me.

 

Good post OP!!

Edited June 13, 2016 by fear_the_nut70

[rlk232]

You should totally be able to hire NPCs to help you, as that's what part of being a CEO inherently means.

[BobFromReboot]

You should totally be able to hire NPCs to help you, as that's what part of being a CEO inherently means.

 

Should be able to do jobs for specific gangs, granting you NPC backup.

[Jenkiiii]

The intention was nothing.

 

I don't care what anyone says, I genuinely think that rockstar are completely out of touch with what happens in public lobbies. I doubt many of them even enter them at all.

 

These things will have been playtested amongst themselves and with accounts in which they can simply "restock" with cash to keep on playing. When they were testing this, it would have been mates having a laugh, the gigantic and frustrating losses would not have registered with them as losses at all, because they can simply add more money to their account. When their characters need money they don't grind for a month or buy a shark card, the simply create it. So any loss means nothing.

 

Rockstar are out of touch with this game and how it's played. It is a freeroam deathmatch now and nothing else. All pretence of play, co-operation, teaming up, challenge and anything else left the building long ago and now all we have a roaming groups of enemies and solo trolls absolutely everywhere.

 

I think you're out of touch to be honest.

 

The balance of the game is now excellent, and if you have a few friends to play with in freemode lobbies it's even better. You can leave your CEO company for a while and help someone deliver a crate and then go back to money-making on your own.

 

Even when you're playing on your own you can easily gauge the aggression levels within a lobby and decide not to deliver valuable merchandise.

 

To say Rockstar just tests without any thought is really far out. They've thought about how freemode works really really well, and realise that people hate being stuck in the clouds or hanging around in lobbies while they populate. People just want to get on with playing the game at their own pace, while still making money.

 

And I'm making money in public lobbies easier than ever before, by carefully juggling crate shipments with other activities.

 

It's a shame you're having such a bad experience, but don't assume it's like that for everyone else. I'm really enjoying it.

Edited June 13, 2016 by Jenkiiii

[AUScowboy]

Would lick a foreign, sweaty testicle for some NPC body gaurds

Edited June 13, 2016 by AUScowboy

[fear_the_nut70]

 

 

so every time someone jumps in a jet, goes off radar and rams you in a car and you associates have to fend them off.....THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE CEO/ WAREHOUSE SYSTEM.

I agree with everything you say, it's just this would be more fun if jets weren't so f*cking easy to get. I wouldn't mind having to fend off something as op as the jet if it actually took effort on the pilots part.

 

Other than that I agree.

 

 

You are the winner. The answer is 6!! I wondered how long before someone starting whining about jets again. The answer is 6. Reread the post, there was NOTHING in there that invited whining about jets. Nothing. Put some ointment on the infected area if you get my drift and refrain from playing the game for a few days and what ails you should start to get better.

I agree with the generating content. I'm just having a blast buying, selling and grinding VIP work inbetweeen, and I don't see it as THE moneymaker either. However I do these solo mainly cause my connection is shady af and get split anyways. And I love doing these, this update actually made me stop grinding heists and missions, and has given me a huge sense of immersion and I'm enjoying it all.

 

And I'm making a lot of cash, since I do these on my own, I've found various stratergies that ended up raking in millions in hours time... But yeah, you can't really go around telling people how they should see the update and expect them to take you seriously. It's all based on experiences and all that.

 

You know what else was cool, it took me to different areas of the map I either had never seen or hadn't been to in a long time.

 

This isn't perfect by any means, but it was a much needed change, and I for one am enjoying it.

[fear_the_nut70]

Grinding for cash in gta is pointless period, most intelligent players aquire cheated money and then play the activities for fun without worrying about money.

 

I agree with OP, the new mode is better just to have fun and change freemode PvP.

 

It isn't pointless, because the more money you earn, the more things you can buy (this may or may not be important to you, but there IS a point).. Not sure what intelligence has to do with it. We are all different. Some people don't get bored as easily and don't even conceptualize it as "grinding" in the first place. Others never worry about money because they don't feel the need to keep up with the Joneses. And I am not sure it takes "intelligence" to acquire cheated money, just a few seconds googling sh*t.

 

I know this is probably just a troll post, but I wanted to recognize you because this is the most wrong I have seen someone on here in a little more than a year. Kudos to you sir, you are the best of trolls.

Edited June 13, 2016 by fear_the_nut70