Missile jammer for Pegasus vehicles

[fw3]

I resent having limited features in an entertainment product.

It's like buying a box of Lucky Charms and only having access to the hearts, stars, and horseshoes.

The clovers and blue moons are a limited feature and you can't have them, unless you pay more to be a CEO.

Forget about the rainbows, balloons and hourglasses – those are high ticket items that cost $3 million each.
And not for nothing, son, you just can't afford that, even with the cheapest Shark Card.

 

It's for this reason why I don't bother with half the limited features in GTAO and why I do not eat Lucky Charms.

To hell with the stupid rainbows. Who needs them?

[Gridl0k]

So the Brocade got the BP tyres it needed, but no other buffs for vehicles in Cunning Stunts. Oh well. Bump for slim hopes.

 

Which is a shame, this is my new favourite game but it's hard to set up - Cuban 800 Conkers;

 

 

Loser is the first one without propellors;

 

[LeeTone]

Give a jammer to all aircraft except any that have weapons.

[Gridl0k]

^ And let the pilot activate it.

[Skycam]

I voted yes and yes. Solo heli should be able to use jammers.

 

Jets don't need it but what's the harm in giving them a jammer to, HL is already useless against jets. I know I use cannons so I wouldn't be effected anyway, also I already easily avoid missles in a jet.

 

I do feel bad for those helicopters as it is tho. Lol

[Mattoropael]

I voted yes and yes. Solo heli should be able to use jammers.

 

Jets don't need it but what's the harm in giving them a jammer to, HL is already useless against jets. I know I use cannons so I wouldn't be effected anyway, also I already easily avoid missles in a jet.

 

I do feel bad for those helicopters as it is tho. Lol

 

The most simple way to balance it: Different cooldown periods.

- Unarmed aircraft should have the shortest, almost non-existent cooldown on the jammer (say ~30s or even less).

- Armed chopper should have a long cooldown (~1 min)

- Jets should have the longest cooldown by far (~5 min)

 

Of course, it's not like R* would do anything.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Mattoropael

[Hunter]

I voted yes and yes. Solo heli should be able to use jammers.

 

Jets don't need it but what's the harm in giving them a jammer to, HL is already useless against jets. I know I use cannons so I wouldn't be effected anyway, also I already easily avoid missles in a jet.

 

I do feel bad for those helicopters as it is tho. Lol

I kind of get your point. Personally, I'd rather jets didn't get it, but having said that, the homing launcher doesn't really do barely anything to them as it is anyway.

 

The things that really need it are unarmed aircraft and attack helicopters though.

 

Attack helicopters have been left in a botched and neglected state ever since the homing launcher released, and it's about time they got some love. At some point I'm going to open a thread just for that - with as many suggestions, ideas, etc. as I can come up with, with a link to a petition and their email address to really make a push for giving helicopters something.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[CUTS3R]

The poll is kinda biased since we can only select 1 option. Knowing you LOVE helicopters, by making jets and helicopters as separate choices you knew it would make it look like people would be ok with jammers on attack helicopters since the majority of votes would obviously go to jets. When in fact people would have probably voted for both if they could.

 

 

With that said,one option is clearly missing. It should be :

 

-Yes.

-Yes, but not for armed aircrafts.

-Yes, but not for jets.

-Yes, but not for attack helicopters.

-No, not at all.

Edited July 13, 2016 by CUTS3R

[Hunter]

 

 

The poll is kinda biased since we can only select 1 option. Knowing you LOVE helicopters, by making jets and helicopters as separate choices you knew it would make it look like people would be ok with jammers on attack helicopters since the majority of votes would obviously go to jets. When in fact people would have probably voted for both if they could.

 

 

With that said,one option is clearly missing. It should be :

 

-Yes.

-Yes, but not for armed aircrafts.

-Yes, but not for jets.

-Yes, but not for attack helicopters.

-No, not all.

 

 

Well I assumed anyone who wasn't happy with helicopters having the jammer would definitely not want jets to have it either.

 

So saying no to attack helicopters, I mean, presumably those who voted that wouldn't want jets having them either? So my thinking was saying no to helicopters is saying no to armed aircraft completely.

[_PANiC_]

cant we just have a button we press and it eject puppies out of the back to take the hit

 

Helis should have Jammers , or puppies ..

Edited July 13, 2016 by PANiC ATTACK3R

[Skycam]

 

The things that really need it are unarmed aircraft and attack helicopters though

 

Yes I completely agree, I don't often fly helicopters but I would like them to have some defense, all helicopters not just civilian.

 

Again I agree jets don't need anything, I fly a hydra and don't need any jammers or flares. I still voted yes because... I don't know, why not?

[Fail_At_GTA]

If you fly a Hydra a jammer isn't needed. You can endlessly avoid rockets with ease.

[Charles_Lee_Raye]

Easiest fix is to remove the homing launcher or make it actually work and take down jets.

The thing was added specifically to combat air griefers and it doesn't work as intended. Just remove it.

[Hunter]

If you fly a Hydra a jammer isn't needed. You can endlessly avoid rockets with ease.

Unlike this poor guy:

 

 

Easiest fix is to remove the homing launcher or make it actually work and take down jets.

The thing was added specifically to combat air griefers and it doesn't work as intended. Just remove it.

Of course I'd love to see the homing launcher gone too, but realistically, that's never going to happen. They've never taken a weapon out before (as far as I know), and I doubt they're going to start now.

 

Better to argue for this, better armour on the slow aircraft, and other buffs.

 

#buff,notnerf

 

Edited July 13, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[Death Rains From Above]

It'd be awesome if a pilot-accessable Missile Jammer were inputted into all aircraft, minus the Hydra and Lazer.

 

I'd finally be able to have some fun with my Savage in a Public Lobby without some kids trying to get an easy kill with their Noob (Homing) Launcher. It's bad enough the thing is made out of paper mache as it is.

 

And before the whole "It balances Air-to-Ground Combat" argument is brought up yet again, I must say that it is still quite easy to take down helicopters without the use of the Noob (Homing) Launcher. Concentrated fire from snipers, Miniguns, or even ARs and MGs can bring one down without much hassle.

 

The Homing Launcher was originally billed as a tool against jet griefing, yet it failed (and continues to do so) miserably. It has only succeeded in making helicopter/slow-plane flying a nightmare in public lobbies.

 

A missile jammer (with a cooldown to prevent exploitation) on non-Attack Jet aircraft would be a welcome addition to those of us who are sick and tired of putting up with Homing Launcher spammers.

[Retroview1955]

Missile Jammer? If you dont want people to hurt you, just go Passive. Problem solved, unless you actually want to cause harm to others and have a way that makes it more difficult for them to get even -- sniping someone from your Yacht and activating defenses when they shoot back to you. Learn how to fight back, instead of having Rockstar f*ck freemode up somemore.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Retroview1955

[Hunter]

Missile Jammer? If you dont want people to hurt you, just go Passive. Problem solved, unless you actually want to cause harm to others and have a way that makes it more difficult for them to get even -- sniping someone from your Yacht and activating defenses when they shoot back to you.

CEOs can't go passive.

 

No idea what you're on about with the yacht either.

 

To your earlier point about not wanting to be hurt by other players, we simply want the missile jammer on our aircraft. Not hard to get, right? We already have MANPADS devices in the game; now we want the other side of that equation - i.e. anti-MANPADS devices. Not to mention a way out of missiles from rogue jets, etc.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[xTrendSs]

HELL YES. Whats the point of making a thing like that if the pilot can't use it, i just don't get it. All it needs is good balance (Like, you can only use it one time every 15 minutes or 3 times untill your plane dies something like that)

[Razgriz67]

I voted yes and yes. Solo heli should be able to use jammers.

 

Jets don't need it but what's the harm in giving them a jammer to, HL is already useless against jets. I know I use cannons so I wouldn't be effected anyway, also I already easily avoid missles in a jet.

 

I do feel bad for those helicopters as it is tho. Lol

 

The harm comes in jet to jet action.

 

I use rockets to make the opponent pilot dodge which makes him a bigger target thus making it easier for me to shoot him out of the sky with my cannon

Edited July 14, 2016 by razgriz67

[Hunter]

The harm comes in jet to jet action.

 

I use rockets to make the opponent pilot dodge which makes him a bigger target thus making it easier for me to shoot him out of the sky with my cannon

 

There would (presumably) be a cool down though. So even if they jammed one missile, if you followed them you could fire another, and they'd have to dodge sooner or later.

 

Having said that, I still think it's really helicopters and unarmed stuff that needs it.

[GAUNTLET HELLFIRE]

Yes but not for attack helicopters. My Buzzard is my main air vehicle when in a public session and I have been shot down with the homing launcher more times than I can remember but I don't have a problem getting kills with the lock on rockets it's my go to bounty hunting vehicle. As long as I can lock onto people they should be able to lock on to me. Yes we should be able to use it solo.

[Hunter]

As long as I can lock onto people they should be able to lock on to me. Yes we should be able to use it solo.

You can't lock onto people; not if they're on foot. Funnily enough, since you can only lock on while they're driving, you can actually only lock onto them when they can't lock onto you.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is, adding homing missiles for cars didn't do a lot to restore balance to helicopters. Especially when you consider that, in reality, anyone using a homing launcher could most likely be locked onto by an attack helicopter.

 

Duly noted though.

[Razgriz67]

 

The harm comes in jet to jet action.

 

I use rockets to make the opponent pilot dodge which makes him a bigger target thus making it easier for me to shoot him out of the sky with my cannon

 

There would (presumably) be a cool down though. So even if they jammed one missile, if you followed them you could fire another, and they'd have to dodge sooner or later.

 

Having said that, I still think it's really helicopters and unarmed stuff that needs it.

 

 

But the makes my strategy impossible to do. My method is to take out the Pilot ASAP. Having a jammer could cause the opponent pilot to only slightly maneuver which means he will stay the small size he originally was making it harder for me to hit him with the cannon. and will then lead to a sloppy drown out tail chase until one of us loses

Edited July 14, 2016 by razgriz67

[Hunter]

But the makes my strategy impossible to do. My method is to take out the Pilot ASAP. Having a jammer could cause the opponent pilot to only slightly maneuver which means he will stay the small size he originally was making it harder for me to hit him with the cannon. and will then lead to a sloppy drown out tail chase until one of us loses

The jammer would only work once before needing a cool down though - as long as you stuck tailing him, you'd be ready to fire another missile, and he/she would have to dodge that next one (jammer would be stuck cooling down).

 

It would mix up that aspect a little, but not that much I don't think.

[Razgriz67]

The jammer would only work once before needing a cool down though - as long as you stuck tailing him, you'd be ready to fire another missile, and he/she would have to dodge that next one (jammer would be stuck cooling down).

 

 

It would mix up that aspect a little, but not that much I don't think.

 

It actually would. The missile would warn the pilot of my existence and if he has a jammer he could slow down allowed me to get closer before trying to maneuver to get behind me and since I'm closer then normal it wont be as easy for me to follow along to be able to hit him with the cannons

[Hunter]

It actually would. The missile would warn the pilot of my existence and if he has a jammer he could slow down allowed me to get closer before trying to maneuver to get behind me and since I'm closer then normal it wont be as easy for me to follow along to be able to hit him with the cannons

 

Surely you still have the upperhand though? I mean, how is he going to end up behind you, if you just outmaneuver him?

[Shneb]

How about a cannon blocker?

[Razgriz67]

Surely you still have the upperhand though? I mean, how is he going to end up behind you, if you just outmaneuver him?

Like I said it can get sloppy and drawn out. A quick kill can turn into 1+ min long tail chase if I mess up my first strike. And adding a jammer greatly decrease my chances of a successful first strike

[Hunter]

Like I said it can get sloppy and drawn out. A quick kill can turn into 1+ min long tail chase if I mess up my first strike. And adding a jammer greatly decrease my chances of a successful first strike

I guess so, but is having the fight last 1+ minutes really that bad?

 

I don't know. I guess I just don't see the negative effect of it on that (if it's really all that negative) as outweighing the balance this would bring to unarmed aircraft and helicopters.

 

This would go a long, long way to making things fair again for them. Of course, I'm a little biased though.

Edited July 14, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[Skycam]

How about a cannon blocker?

How about damage reduction on the cannons only against tanks. That would be cool. Jet flying around pull out the tank knowing that the jet is going to have to make more then one pass to kill you. It would give the tank some use.

 

 

Surely you still have the upperhand though? I mean, how is he going to end up behind you, if you just outmaneuver him?

Like I said it can get sloppy and drawn out. A quick kill can turn into 1+ min long tail chase if I mess up my first strike. And adding a jammer greatly decrease my chances of a successful first strike

Personally I think it would be better this way. I do lock-on and fire a missle during my approach of another jet too but I'd say 9 out of 10 times I get my kills with the cannons anyway.

 

That being said I think the real issue is with all helicopters being pretty defenseless.

 

Jets don't need them. But I still voted yes. HL lock-on fly in a circle, helicopter approaches fly up and attack from above.