Associates get 1% of the CEO's reward?

[dieseltech20]

I don't give a damn what other folks get paid, especially random folks. My friends have enough money that they don't care to help.

[Alec Skorpio]

My friend has gotten a solid 8k from every sale we've done. This has been two 8 crate sales and one 16 crate sale.

That being said, he made about 200k while we did the buys for the 16 crate sale. This was through a combination of SecuroServ salary and doing 2 or 3 VIP works.

 

So it seems like to me that if you want decent pay you have to stick it out through the whole session of buying crates, be a decent player so you earn a better salary and you may need to ask the CEO to do some VIP work here and there. There's really no reason why they shouldn't want to do VIP work as it's pretty easy money that can be put back into the business.

Edited June 12, 2016 by Alec Skorpio

[kringled]

Securoserv salary is an improvement if your associates were going to be just messing around in freeroam anyways. If they were going to be doing almost anything else that pays, it's laughably low. You'll make better pay out of DM/LTS/capture/racing let along missions/heists. Mixing VIP work with crate work is probably the best that can be done right now, but that has its limitations as well - if you have multiple CEO groups in the lobby, you won't have access to VIP work nearly as often. Challenges won't usually distribute cash evenly across the team either. I've done associate work for a few people because they seemed like decent people, and I've got more than enough cash on hand for myself. It does not pay commensurate with the difficulty at all.

[rlk232]

This pretty much says it all. "Yeah, we want you to utilize teamwork, but we won't pay anyone other than the CEO more than peanuts."

[LTG_KARL]

 

Me and two other associates worked almost 5 hours straight gathering crates. When I was at 950k, we decided it was time to deliver.

 

So yes, like my title says, my associates actually got 1% of what I got... 9.5k... while I got 950k...

 

Yes, I know they get 5-10k per 15-30min or something but they mostly spent it on ammo & explosives...

 

So yeah, on top of feeling like I giant asshole, I couldn't even share the cash I made. This is so not fair!!!

 

 

You didn't actually get 950K, what about your expenses, so at most you probably got $400K.

 

Also your bodyguards get anywhere from $5-$9k every 10-15 mins which has to be counted towards their totals, so they probably got 50-100K in total ? Still not fair but also still not $9k

 

 

I disagree, I am not only making 400k, I have no idea where you pulled that out from. And I already acknowledged the securo serv pay... Which like I said if you would've read, a working associate would've spent it on ammo...

[rapidwiz]

 

 

Me and two other associates worked almost 5 hours straight gathering crates. When I was at 950k, we decided it was time to deliver.

 

So yes, like my title says, my associates actually got 1% of what I got... 9.5k... while I got 950k...

 

Yes, I know they get 5-10k per 15-30min or something but they mostly spent it on ammo & explosives...

 

So yeah, on top of feeling like I giant asshole, I couldn't even share the cash I made. This is so not fair!!!

 

 

You didn't actually get 950K, what about your expenses, so at most you probably got $400K.

 

Also your bodyguards get anywhere from $5-$9k every 10-15 mins which has to be counted towards their totals, so they probably got 50-100K in total ? Still not fair but also still not $9k

 

 

I disagree, I am not only making 400k, I have no idea where you pulled that out from. And I already acknowledged the securo serv pay... Which like I said if you would've read, a working associate would've spent it on ammo...

 

 

You missed my point, just because you stash is worth $950K, doesn't mean that is pure profit.

 

Fine on your second point. We all agree it's unfair. Everyone may as well be a CEO because there is no money in bodyguarding other than playing the mode for fun and do vip missions to supplement the cash.

[Bulakula]

If they make the associates get a percentage then it would be unfair if someone helped you fill it up and left then another person only helped you sell it for 10 min and took the undeserved cut, the only solution I see is to have the option to share cash after you sell it so you could give as you think since you're the CEO.

[Delta8042]

I just do a sell mission with another member of the forums. He made 2 mil and I was paid 5500. This was on ps4. Associates definetly do not get 1% of what CEOs make.

[JohnMcClainNYPD]

You could just pay them with VIP work along the way? Pays good for everyone and takes little effort.

This definitely. I was an associate for a guy and after a cargo run we went to his yacht and did the piracy prevention thing. Nothing happened for 10 minutes, but I got $29,000 for it on top of my Securo Serv pay. I was pretty happy about that.

Edited June 13, 2016 by JohnMcClainNYPD

[fear_the_nut70]

Kind of sounds like the imbalance in pay between CEO's and employees here in America!!

[grand theft spaghetti]

have you guys tried selling a car while working for a ceo?

the game gives 99% of the money to the ceo as their cut.

 

being a ceo is just a huge ripoff. you have to grind for days to remake your investment and after the first few times good luck finding someone that wants to spend a few hours not making any money helping you.

[rlk232]

Yeah, it's terrible. The Associates get nothing; the only way around it is to do 2-3 VIP missions like Sightseer and P2P races per hour and give them your cut. But if you do that in addition to 6-8 crate deliveries per hour, they'll easily make $140k hourly.

[BobFromReboot]

Yeah, it's terrible. The Associates get nothing; the only way around it is to do 2-3 VIP missions like Sightseer and P2P races per hour and give them your cut. But if you do that in addition to 6-8 crate deliveries per hour, they'll easily make $140k hourly.

 

I don't get how throwing in CEO work somehow makes the low payout okay on deliveries. The associates still have to take the time out of their hour for the low paying deliveries instead of doing higher paying vip work/challenges.

 

It's like somebody telling me I have to scrub toilets for half my job at half minimum wage. But it's okay though! Because the other half of the job is flipping burgers for minimum wage!

[Jenkiiii]

TBH I'm getting bored at the continuous posts on how associates are being ripped off.

 

You don't have to stick with a CEO hour after hour collecting crates, but can leave and do your own CEO work. When it comes to delivery you can ask friends to join up and make sure it goes smoothly, and vice versa.

 

And if you ARE the sort of person that tags along with a CEO 24x7, then make sure the CEO is 'responsible' and kicks off regular VIP missions so you get good cash on top of your pay, instead of making you trawl for crates all day for little profit. The CEO is the 'boss' running the company and needs to make sure they treat the crew well instead of ripping them off.

[Kyrrari]

TBH I'm getting bored at the continuous posts on how associates are being ripped off.

 

You don't have to stick with a CEO hour after hour collecting crates, but can leave and do your own CEO work. When it comes to delivery you can ask friends to join up and make sure it goes smoothly, and vice versa.

 

And if you ARE the sort of person that tags along with a CEO 24x7, then make sure the CEO is 'responsible' and kicks off regular VIP missions so you get good cash on top of your pay, instead of making you trawl for crates all day for little profit. The CEO is the 'boss' running the company and needs to make sure they treat the crew well instead of ripping them off.

Some people have these things call friends. They enjoy playing with them. They like not feeling like jackasses because they're making millions while their friends make nothing after they account for expenses like ammo, vehicles, and armor.

I already outline an extremely simple fix that would level the paying field.

Each associate gets 2k per crate delivered, 5% of deliveries made, and a max 20k/15min [up from 10k& exclusive to CEO's - vip guard pay would still be 10k] from securoserv salaries if they stay loyal to you. That's 110k for successful max deliveries on top of a max 80k/hr from securoserv and another 36k/hr from crates at minimum [assuming you can make 6 3 crate runs an hour which is lowballing it a lot]

That's an average of roughly 225k/hr

It's still way less than heists make and below the CEO's profit margin but also high enough that being an associate is actually worth it and people will want to help.

 

The amount they make right now would barely even cover my property/mechanic/assistant fees.

Edited June 14, 2016 by Kyrrari

[hispls]

Buy your CEO stuff > play a bunch of heists to get your money back > then can casually enjoy the new CEO game mode.

 

 

This IMO is the only way to really enjoy this. The ONLY reward for any of this for associate is the RP awards. I've noticed a lot of low level CEO and associates that know the pay is squat but are doing it to quickly rank up. A few of my friends even started playing their alternate character joining each other's organizations for the fast RP.

 

I'd really like to see a base pay rate of what exists + option for CEO to kick in extra + profit sharing on deliveries and sales. This would make sure organizations can easily fill up with friends or randoms, and might even make for some interesting new mechanics.

 

Think if you had the option to kick in an extra 1-10K per pay cycle for associates which you could raise or lower on the fly to reward or punish employees who did and did not perform? You could even offer more pay to other organizations' employees to try to recruit them away from their current employers. Why not add the ability to reward one of your associates with a vice president title which paid a little more and had some extra perks/abilities or even a special vehicle to use while active in the organization?

 

For the sake of gameplay value and balance I wouldn't even mind if associates made more money than CEOs all around. People who drop 30M on this update were going to blow that money on expensive status symbols anyway so they're not really out anything. In short, I think that associate should pay more and more until there's always 3 people looking for work for each 1 person who wants to be the CEO. From a realism or logic standpoint that makes little sense, but for the sake of getting participation in this play mode (full organizations) supply and demand requires pay scales to adjust until equilibrium is found. If R* doesn't intend to fix this through securo-serve payments, at least allow CEO the option to make up for the imbalance.

[Jenkiiii]

 

TBH I'm getting bored at the continuous posts on how associates are being ripped off.

 

You don't have to stick with a CEO hour after hour collecting crates, but can leave and do your own CEO work. When it comes to delivery you can ask friends to join up and make sure it goes smoothly, and vice versa.

 

And if you ARE the sort of person that tags along with a CEO 24x7, then make sure the CEO is 'responsible' and kicks off regular VIP missions so you get good cash on top of your pay, instead of making you trawl for crates all day for little profit. The CEO is the 'boss' running the company and needs to make sure they treat the crew well instead of ripping them off.

Some people have these things call friends. They enjoy playing with them. They like not feeling like jackasses because they're making millions while their friends make nothing after they account for expenses like ammo, vehicles, and armor.

I already outline an extremely simple fix that would level the paying field.

Each associate gets 2k per crate delivered, 5% of deliveries made, and a max 20k/15min [up from 10k& exclusive to CEO's - vip guard pay would still be 10k] from securoserv salaries if they stay loyal to you. That's 110k for successful max deliveries on top of a max 80k/hr from securoserv and another 36k/hr from crates at minimum [assuming you can make 6 3 crate runs an hour which is lowballing it a lot]

That's an average of roughly 225k/hr

It's still way less than heists make and below the CEO's profit margin but also high enough that being an associate is actually worth it and people will want to help.

 

The amount they make right now would barely even cover my property/mechanic/assistant fees.

 

 

You're not reading between the lines, my friend.

 

Rockstar have no intention of paying Associates good pay, because that way they would never become CEOs themselves. The only way of making real money is by becoming the CEO yourself and buying the million dollar office+, and the warehouse+, and the vehicle upgrades, etc...

 

Let's not be naive. Rockstar intend to make money through shark cards in order to make GTA online profitable, and they're not going to get that if everyone makes easy money tagging along with the CEO 24x7 for free. They want you to buy all that stuff as well.

 

Do the associate thing as a bit of fun, to help your friends out, etc, but don't expect to make serious money out of it, because you won't.

[rapidwiz]

have you guys tried selling a car while working for a ceo?

the game gives 99% of the money to the ceo as their cut.

 

being a ceo is just a huge ripoff. you have to grind for days to remake your investment and after the first few times good luck finding someone that wants to spend a few hours not making any money helping you.

 

That's how it supposed to work. To get around this put the car in your garage first so it gets a free tracker then sell it. Anything with a tracker, you get the cash

 

or just retire temporary, sell the car and then join again. You just need to remember to do it.

Edited June 14, 2016 by rapidwiz

[Amnesia.]

I exclusively just play CEO missions now. Hiests are too boring for me. And I play to have fun, not to make the most money possible.

[Thomasubi]

Is there a sticky on the forums to find CEO Crews?

Yeah the payout for the Associates is sh*t, but that's because CEO's don't share the money with the players. Everytime I do VIP work, I split all the money between the associate's.

[LTG_KARL]

Is there a sticky on the forums to find CEO Crews?

Yeah the payout for the Associates is sh*t, but that's because CEO's don't share the money with the players. Everytime I do VIP work, I split all the money between the associate's.

Ceo's can't share money anyways

[Skycam]

I've seen some different cuts. 0% 40% 50%. How do I change the cut if I'm the ceo and what does it effect?

 

Edit* side note my associates get paid well through vip work. They can easily make 100k in no time, and what else are they doing in freeroam.. not making money if they aren't working for me. PP 30k then I let them win point to point 10k then launch HH shortly after and they get another +20k all for being a part of my organization for 30 minutes or so.

 

I'd still like those questions answered please ^

If anyone can shed some light or point me in the right direction.

Edited August 12, 2016 by Skycam

[KornbreadMaf1a]

 

You could just pay them with VIP work along the way? Pays good for everyone and takes little effort.

 

VIP work has ver poor pay in comparison to properly done CEO. Solo ceo is where we are at untill rockstar up the associates pay 5 fold. I think at this point they have no option.Most of the post I see of yours are negative so if you dislike the game so much why continue to play?

 

Is there a sticky on the forums to find CEO Crews?

Yeah the payout for the Associates is sh*t, but that's because CEO's don't share the money with the players. Everytime I do VIP work, I split all the money between the associate's.

 

Ceo's can't share money anywaysYou can share the money from VIP work just not CEO crate deliveries.

[CaliMeatWagon]

Just like Heists, it's up to the leader to make sure the crew gets paid well. If you run Headhunter, Sightseer, and Piracy Prevention in-between crate runs, your Associates will make more money per hour than if they were to grind missions.

[Charles_Lee_Raye]

I've seen some different cuts. 0% 40% 50%. How do I change the cut if I'm the ceo and what does it effect?

 

Edit* side note my associates get paid well through vip work. They can easily make 100k in no time, and what else are they doing in freeroam.. not making money if they aren't working for me. PP 30k then I let them win point to point 10k then launch HH shortly after and they get another +20k all for being a part of my organization for 30 minutes or so.

 

I'd still like those questions answered please ^

If anyone can shed some light or point me in the right direction.

Its a bonus based on how your running your business. Do a bunch of buys and dont die as quick as possible to max it out. Then hire associates max pay is 10.5k every 15 minutes. You can't manually change it. If you start dying as Ceo this bonus will decrease in increments to a minimum if 5.5k. Stop dying and do more buys to increase again.

[DangerZ0neX]

Just like Heists, it's up to the leader to make sure the crew gets paid well. If you run Headhunter, Sightseer, and Piracy Prevention in-between crate runs, your Associates will make more money per hour than if they were to grind missions.

If the CEO still gets profit from these VIP missions, plus getting 2.2 million from full warehouse sales, then why bother being a lowly associate?

 

VIP missions still don't make up for the sh*t pay, and these missions can get solo'd by the CEO easily in his/her Buzzard, this is why everyone is leaving the concept of working for someone and are working for themselves because Rockstar sucks at balancing anything.

[gtafan26]

 

The only game mode designed to make you money is heists

 

everything else is just another game mode where you get paid for it

its may hurt people's butts but its true

Buy your CEO stuff > play a bunch of heists to get your money back > then can casually enjoy the new CEO game mode. My heist friends wanted to do the same. Lucky me.

I bought my CEO stuff this morning. I've almost made it all back now

 

Since ive made my money back on all the CEO stuff purchased, I do just that, casually enjoy CEO, its true, its not the best money making method in the game, its just a different way to make money.

[Thomasubi]

Like stated above, associates can make decent amount of money through VIP work in between retrieving CEO goods to storage. As long as CEO gives them all of the money from VIP missions.

Edited August 13, 2016 by Thomasubi

[Cracka.Brew]

CEO= BIG CORPORATE BOSS SMOKING VIRTUAL CIGARS

ASSOCIATE= MINIMUM WAGE WORKER

 

"Do you want fries with that?"

[CaliMeatWagon]

 

Just like Heists, it's up to the leader to make sure the crew gets paid well. If you run Headhunter, Sightseer, and Piracy Prevention in-between crate runs, your Associates will make more money per hour than if they were to grind missions.

If the CEO still gets profit from these VIP missions, plus getting 2.2 million from full warehouse sales, then why bother being a lowly associate?

 

VIP missions still don't make up for the sh*t pay, and these missions can get solo'd by the CEO easily in his/her Buzzard, this is why everyone is leaving the concept of working for someone and are working for themselves because Rockstar sucks at balancing anything.

 

 

Remember, the CEO can also share the money that they make from the VIP missions. This is why I can sit in my office and watch Netflix while my Associates do Headhunter and deliver my crates. I'm a true CEO.

 

And as for "balance"? GTA allows CEO's and Heist Leaders to be dicks, to balance payouts, or to be overly generous. It's all up to players.