Has anyone found a use for the tugboat

[Nutduster]

It is what it is, dude. The game actively incentivizes people to come after you - there's a pop-up message ("go blow up those crates!", to paraphrase), and it gives you money and ammo for doing it. In fact, I just discovered the other day on this forum that one of the ammo types it gives you is firework launcher, which is otherwise unavailable until the next holiday event. I'd be lying if I said that didn't give me a little more reason to blow up those red crate icons (though I mostly go after buys, not sales - big difference between costing someone $18,000 and costing them 2.2 mil).

 

Of course players have the option not to come after you, if they don't want. But this is the game as Rockstar intended it and designed it. If you don't like it, you better make sure to do your CEO work in empty lobbies, like I said. Or don't do it at all. There are plenty of non-PvP ways to make money.

Edited September 10, 2016 by Nutduster

[Nacho Z]

It is what it is, dude. The game actively incentivizes people to come after you - there's a pop-up message ("go blow up those crates!", to paraphrase), and it gives you money and ammo for doing it. In fact, I just discovered the other day on this forum that one of the ammo types it gives you is firework launcher, which is otherwise unavailable until the next holiday event. I'd be lying if I said that didn't give me a little more reason to blow up those red crate icons (though I mostly go after buys, not sales - big difference between costing someone $18,000 and costing them 2.2 mil).

 

Of course players have the option not to come after you, if they don't want. But this is the game as Rockstar intended it and designed it. If you don't like it, you better make sure to do your CEO work in empty lobbies, like I said. Or don't do it at all. There are plenty of non-PvP ways to make money.

What do you get for it, 2K or something? Barely worth the effort it takes to hold down R2.

 

If Rockstar gave me $1000 every time I jumped off the Maze tower and killed myself I'm damned if I'd bother with it. While I do think it's a bit of a dick move to kill players doing buying missions unprovoked, it's on a whole different level of douchebaggery when they're on a sales mission and you know full well that you're taking away substantial time and money from a stranger that they'll never get back.

 

It is in the game yeah but it's something that my moral compass tells me is something only dickheads do. I apologise for my rudeness but it is what I think.

[Nutduster]

That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion. Personally I think GTA Online free roam is basically "Be a Dickhead: The Game!" So I kind of feel like it's both things, you know? Yes there's a level of dickheadedness involved, but that's what the game is on a fundamental level. There's way too much encouraging of PvP by the developer for me to condemn it - and by now everyone that plays this should know the deal, unless they were just given the game for their birthday or something.

 

Basically, I only have a real problem with people that violate the spirit of the game. Stuff like race trolling (crashing into other players, going the wrong way), mission trolling (running over your fellow players, or stealing the objective and then running away with it). But there can be no doubt that blowing up other people's CEO crates is EXACTLY the spirit of the game.

 

To me, the real trolling behind CEO work is not done by players, but by Rockstar. It's a system designed to make people lose tons of money and rage. You can avoid both, but you have to be smarter than a lot of players in free roam apparently are.

Edited September 10, 2016 by Nutduster

[ash-274]

 

 

 

It is what it is, dude. The game actively incentivizes people to come after you - there's a pop-up message ("go blow up those crates!", to paraphrase), and it gives you money and ammo for doing it. In fact, I just discovered the other day on this forum that one of the ammo types it gives you is firework launcher, which is otherwise unavailable until the next holiday event. I'd be lying if I said that didn't give me a little more reason to blow up those red crate icons (though I mostly go after buys, not sales - big difference between costing someone $18,000 and costing them 2.2 mil).

Of course players have the option not to come after you, if they don't want. But this is the game as Rockstar intended it and designed it. If you don't like it, you better make sure to do your CEO work in empty lobbies, like I said. Or don't do it at all. There are plenty of non-PvP ways to make money.

What do you get for it, 2K or something? Barely worth the effort it takes to hold down R2.

If Rockstar gave me $1000 every time I jumped off the Maze tower and killed myself I'm damned if I'd bother with it. While I do think it's a bit of a dick move to kill players doing buying missions unprovoked, it's on a whole different level of douchebaggery when they're on a sales mission and you know full well that you're taking away substantial time and money from a stranger that they'll never get back.
It is in the game yeah but it's something that my moral compass tells me is something only dickheads do. I apologise for my rudeness but it is what I think.

 

 

That's why I use the lockout lobbies.

I don't like being anti-social and I'd like to have some associate help, but since there's no way to have any control over who I'm "socializing with" I do what I have to do to get the work done.

 

Edit: I deleted and move the rest of this as it belonged in another thread

Edited September 10, 2016 by ash-274

[Nutduster]

 

 

On a related note:

I'd like to do the next 500 deliveries with minimal effort an I don't care about a profit (breaking-even is all I ask). The full "I'll sit in the office and watch while you run around" type of operation. Since very few people run crates for the fun of it, I want to know how to maximize the ease and fiscal rewards for associates that join.

• VIP work (Headhunter & sightseer) pays $20,000-$25,000 to each player or split across them?
• I can gift my share to my associates via the Interaction Menu once the job is complete?
• Can they call for the organization's Buzzard or do I need to call it for them?
• What else can I do to make my associates rich in the short term as they work and fight to enrich me long-term?

 

Also, to clarify (or correct me),

• Associates are paid in 10-minute increments?
• The pay starts at $5000 or $5500 and increases with more consecutive crate deliveries?
• How many deliveries are needed before the average is at least $1000/minute?
• What's the maximum?

 

 

VIP work pays each player, not split up. I THINK you can give them your share but I'm not positive of that (you can't give away CEO profits, I know that much). They can call for the Buzzard, it's an Associate menu option. To enrich them, just don't die (dying by any means cuts into their payments) and run VIP work for them as often as possible, as that pays better than crates (for which they get nothing except a pittance when you sell). I suggest Headhunter (excellent effort-to-payout ratio especially if they use the Buzzard for it), Hostile Takeover (pays less but so easy; I can do the LSIA one by myself in about 3 minutes flat), and Sightseer. I don't suggest Asset Recovery - payout sucks, takes forever, and is difficult enough that you'll often lose a car en route and get paid less. Airfreight and Haulage are suicide missions in fuller lobbies.

 

2nd set of questions: I think it's 10 minutes. Not sure about your other questions except I know that you dying brings down their salary.

Edited September 10, 2016 by Nutduster

[Ryuscus]

 

 

 

I found a use for it: blow it up when it looks like a red crate icon on the map, and enjoy the hate mail!

 

Ah yes; blow up my warehouse-in-the-tugboat once, shame on you. Blow it up twice, shame on me.

 

Rest in (tiny, bloody) Pieces, CEO Work.

 

I'd rather deal with three noobs in a heist than set myself up for the BS that is CEO Shiz Work.

Probably goes without saying by now, but you should never sell in anything but an empty lobby. Even buying is taking chances with your time and money. I do 80% of my CEO work after I lag out of a session, and when I buy crates in a non-empty lobby, it's usually with friends and only in a quiet, non-violent session.It'd be nice if people didn't feel the need to blow up a defenceless tug boat doing a sales mission just to cost somebody money and annoy them. Unfortunately we seem stuck with players with that mean spirited and unimaginative attitude.

LOL. I was HELPING a delivery while not in the organization and my thank you? An RPG to the face.

Can we use tug boats in a sea race?

[ash-274]

Can we use tug boats in a sea race?

Not that I've seen. It's like the Marquis: too slow for racing, as per R*.

[Suq Maddiq]

Another then roleplaying as popaye not really

Edited September 10, 2016 by Qaziush