Why is R* incapable of competent vehicle design?

[FlacidJack]

It's not a re-skinned RV, it's a re-skinned garbage truck. Hope that helps.

[..GhosT]

It's not a re-skinned RV, it's a re-skinned garbage truck. Hope that helps.

Its not reskinned off of anything. Its new.

[OfficialTwiggz]

 

It's not a re-skinned RV, it's a re-skinned garbage truck. Hope that helps.

Its not reskinned off of anything. Its new.

Doesn't feel new.

 

Used it once to sell a full large warehouse. Crashed a few times and my assistant said 'whoops, all cargo lost'

 

Nobody died, nobody blew up, nobody flipped.

 

Luckily I only lost three crates apparently. It's Bologna for what it looks for.

 

Imagine you're getting a massive, built Pitbull for personal protection. You bring it home and it sounds like a yorkie.

 

You still want it?

[Ukeman5]

It's not only the brickade (which, you can't sit in the back in, nor does it properly function as expected) but the helicopters recently!

 

The supervolito's are dodgy as anything to use, but with practice it gets there and is usable (I only have it as a yacht taxi personally) . Then the new Volatus. It looks badass, sexy and it flys alright. Has an interesting luxury (carbon) interior BUT... Anytime you land it on an odd surface or oddly it just straight up topples over! Apparently the helicopter concept it's based on had the same issue but R*.. I don't want no damn realistic simulation of a failed aviation concept!

 

We've had so many things my added to this game, why are all the new (mainly pegasus) vehicles totally broken and unusable!?

Edited June 10, 2016 by Ukeman5

[HeavyDuke]

It's light and gets thrown around too:

 

Oh well. Hopefully they'll buff it some time, because it's not up to much as it is.

It won't be buffed. Its ruined like they ruined monster trucks. Its added as a regular car, for looks only. The tires don't transfer mass which simply makes it bounce off cars without damaging them, making you look stupid. Only R* would add such machines only to have them suck.

 

Why the hell can Saints row have perfectly fine car crushing monster trucks, and all we have is this tube chassis on beachballs tumbling around?

 

Who in the right mind would add a monster truck, that can't even damage a car, but instead bounces around?

R* never saw a monster truck in motion i guess. Just saw them and thought those big tires were to make sure no other cars got hurt.

 

Just look at this sh*tty sh*t game doing it countless times better then GTA V

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSUBZ0GPGSQ

Edited June 10, 2016 by HeavyDuke

[Hunter]

Most of the vehicles in the game don't have armored windows and blow up with only one explosive. I don't understand the logic that not having these features is somehow a massive oversight by Rockstar. Unless you're one of those players who drives in an Insurgent or Kuruma all the time lest you face certain death, I don't see the issue.

 

Rockstar showed the Brickade in the trailer and never said they'd release it specifically with this feature and that feature. People put their random assumptions and speculations into play and then blame Rockstar for not doing things they never said they would do in the first place.

 

Its ridiculous.

Sorry man. You know I think you're pretty cool, but I have to disagree on this.

 

Look at the size of it. Just the general look of it. This really should've been strong. Assuming this should be strong is like assuming a plane should fly - you're really just going by what you're given.

 

It's like a Hind that only takes four revolver bullets ...

[Zader]

Why is everything a "reskin" on this forum? Tampa's a reskinned Dukes, FMJ is a reskinned Khamelion, Brickade is a reskinned RV.

God forbid we have variety within similar classes or anything like that.

[Sweedy]

Who gives a fk about the Brickade when the rear of the Bestia doesn't look how I wanted it to? I mean, I'm as entitled as everyone else, right?

[Gridl0k]

^ Have a think about what the difference might be.

 

No? Help?

 

 

 

 

No?

[DentureDynamite]

In the end, players are going to use whichever vehicle does the best job (providing R* doesn't force their hand *cough cough*).

 

If the Brickade doesn't perform, it will be relegated to a dusty parking lot by most.

 

I'm finding that, once again, the Buzzard proves its worth in CEO work; like having MacGyver in your back pocket.

Edited June 10, 2016 by DentureDynamite

[Jarlaxle]

Yes, I've noticed it too. Perhaps their most experienced designers are all busy on the next game.

[R3CON]

Sorry man. You know I think you're pretty cool, but I have to disagree on this.

 

Look at the size of it. Just the general look of it. This really should've been strong. Assuming this should be strong is like assuming a plane should fly - you're really just going by what you're given.

 

It's like a Hind that only takes four revolver bullets ...

 

I do and I appreciate you speaking your mind. But it's not like the Brickade is weak either. It pushes cars out of the way like nothing (I saw your gif - conditions vary) and it has a great deal of speed/maneuverability for what it is.

 

Yes, they could've added armored windows and/or increased bomb resistance in theory, but Rockstar choose not to and I don't see that as a deal breaker.

Edited June 10, 2016 by ikaR3CON

[..GhosT]

 

 

It's not a re-skinned RV, it's a re-skinned garbage truck. Hope that helps.

Its not reskinned off of anything. Its new.

Doesn't feel new.

 

Used it once to sell a full large warehouse. Crashed a few times and my assistant said 'whoops, all cargo lost'

 

Nobody died, nobody blew up, nobody flipped.

 

Luckily I only lost three crates apparently. It's Bologna for what it looks for.

 

Imagine you're getting a massive, built Pitbull for personal protection. You bring it home and it sounds like a yorkie.

 

You still want it?

How does it not feel new? There is no truck thats similar.

[carnerd3000]

It's not a re-skinned RV, it's a re-skinned garbage truck. Hope that helps.

 

Do you mean that the Brickade's performance is programmed off the Trashmaster? I don't know if you're joking or not.

 

And if the Brickade is supposed to be a RV/mobile home or whatever, and not a military vehicle, then technically it shouldn't have to be so resistant to explosives, right? I think it would be nice if the stock version could handle more explosives, but it's not supposed to be a military vehicle, so why is it such a big deal?

[Username_Taken]

The Brickade should have at least had armor to withstand two RPGs, not too mention it bounces way too often, preventing it from being a reliable force unlike the Insurgent.

The Volatus helicopter and the Swift Deluxe are extremely similar, however, the Swift Deluxe at least comes with one of the yachts, it doesn't topple over, and along with the standard version of it it's also the fastest heli, rendering the Volatus useless.

 

The Nimbus plane is just another luxury plane with the similar speed of the Luxor Deluxe. Between that, the standard Luxor, the Miljet, the Shamal, and especially the Vestra, I really don't see the need for this plane.

 

The Tug boat is rather unique, but it will only suit certain players. This one gets an exception.

 

As it stands, most of these vehicles are completely unnecessary and will only clog the game with useless data.

But that's just my opinion.

[Creme_Brulee]

It's light and gets thrown around too:

Gif

 

 

 

 

I may not be on CG to really know what the Brickade is like, but in that gif you showed the Brickade managed to drive over the car, of course it was gonna flip over!

It's not because it's too light!

 

I do agree it should have some explosive resistance though, just look at it!

[Yozora]

awful hit registration because of the ancient servers this game runs on.

And what type of servers would those be?

I mean yu obviously can tell so you MUST be an expert.

 

Use technical terms plz <3 ^_~

[Gridl0k]

Don't be fooled by the height of the vehicle, the centre of gravity is just way off. Try driving over small offroad dunes and see. The chassis and drivetrain should weight a sh*tload more than the cabin.

[..GhosT]

I bought it and love it.

 

I dont need armor slowing me down, and why would i need explosive armor. If i want armor I get armored vehicles.

 

Its an offroad rv after all, not a military mobile base.

[Gridl0k]

I still like it. I'm just sick of being trolled by r*.

[..GhosT]

I still like it. I'm just sick of being trolled by r*.

Did they write "Stomp on your enemies with the brand-new armored HVY Brickade"?

 

No they didnt. R* did not troll you.

[Gridl0k]

 

I still like it. I'm just sick of being trolled by r*.

Did they write "Stomp on your enemies with the brand-new armored HVY Brickade"?

 

No they didnt. R* did not troll you.

 

 

But why are there two versions? In what sense is the up-armoured one not suitable for Pegasus/CEO use? Why show us what we can't have?

 

In a game where you can have the OP gun on an OP vehicle which can't even be shot down with the OP HL, they nerf *this*?

 

In the update that's basically all about convoys, they give us nothing to improve a convoy's chances. That's the trolling.

Edited June 10, 2016 by Gridl0k

[Robaldinio]

Huh. I haven't driven one yet but whenever I've seen others driving them it has looked like a tank with nitro.

 

I was following a couple guys who were in one and they were literally ploughing through every single piece of traffic with zero anti-effect on the vehicle's state or velocity. And I once chased somebody else who was driving one with my Buzzard and it was able to withstand 4-5 indirect hits and 2-3 direct hits before it exploded.

 

Might have actually been temped to buy one before I saw this thread...

[carnerd3000]

Most of the vehicles in the game don't have armored windows and blow up with only one explosive. I don't understand the logic that not having these features is somehow a massive oversight by Rockstar. Unless you're one of those players who drives in an Insurgent or Kuruma all the time lest you face certain death, I don't see the issue.

 

Rockstar showed the Brickade in the trailer and never said they'd release it specifically with this feature and that feature. People put their random assumptions and speculations into play and then blame Rockstar for not doing things they never said they would do in the first place.

 

Its ridiculous.

 

You're right on the money. One thing I want to say is that it's possible that people (including me) may have went by what Yan said when he hinted at an armored truck on twitter, and probably expected the Brickade to be incredibly durable to explosives. In the trailer, it was the upgraded version that was shown, but you're still right; the only thing we saw of the Brickade was basically how it was able to plow through traffic with ease. Nothing about its explosive resistance. So, yeah, it's technically not Rockstar's fault, but I guess what I am saying is that if you listened to Yan, who was right, then it was easy to get mislead. And yes, I know it's better to listen to Rockstar's official announcements than a leaker.

 

Also, I don't think anyone knew that you could upgrade the Brickade or do anything different to it in the first place.

Edited June 10, 2016 by carnerd3000

[..GhosT]

 

 

I still like it. I'm just sick of being trolled by r*.

Did they write "Stomp on your enemies with the brand-new armored HVY Brickade"?

 

No they didnt. R* did not troll you.

 

But why are there two versions? In what sense is the up-armoured one not suitable for Pegasus/CEO use? Why show us what we can't have?

 

In a game where you can have the OP gun on an OP vehicle which can't even be shot down with the OP HL, they nerf *this*?

 

In the update that's basically all about convoys, they give us nothing to improve a convoy's chances. That's the trolling.

Theres only one version.

You can upgrade the CEO spawned brickades with BP tires and some more health points, thats it.

[Gridl0k]

Theres only one version.

You can upgrade the CEO spawned brickades with BP tires and some more health points, thats it.

 

Nope. Only game-spawned Sale vehicles have the 'health point' upgrade. That's precisely why it sucks.

 

The CEO one does get BP tyres, which is the other upgrade, which is just more frustration.

 

Peg = no bp tyres, no armour (1 RPG)

CEO = bp tyres, no armour

Sale = bp tyres, armour (5 RPGs)

Edited June 10, 2016 by Gridl0k

[CrysisAverted]

 

Sorry man. You know I think you're pretty cool, but I have to disagree on this.

 

Look at the size of it. Just the general look of it. This really should've been strong. Assuming this should be strong is like assuming a plane should fly - you're really just going by what you're given.

 

It's like a Hind that only takes four revolver bullets ...

I do and I appreciate you speaking your mind. But it's not like the Brickade is weak either. It pushes cars out of the way like nothing (I saw your gif - conditions vary) and it has a great deal of speed/maneuverability for what it is.

 

Yes, they could've added armored windows and/or increased bomb resistance in theory, but Rockstar choose not to and I don't see that as a deal breaker.

 

the thing loses its bumper after 1 collision, well I mean the bumper just hangs around.

[Member's Only]

Yes, I've noticed it too. Perhaps their most experienced designers are all busy on the next game.

Probably adding the finishing touches to the 4k high poly horse dick that will be shown on the Red Dead presentation at E3.

[makoy]

I don't like the brickade. It looks far better than it actually is. However, the I do really like the tug boat for some reason.

[justinlynch3]

The Brickade is nothing more than a re-skinned RV. 1 explosive (even with upgrades) and it's gone. I found some people that glitched it earlier today, it was able to withstand multiple strafes from the jet. It was either a glitch or just awful hit registration because of the ancient servers this game runs on.

Welcome to the cloud.

Edited June 10, 2016 by justinlynch3