If you get to replace one ANTAGONIST...

[Edward Nashton]

Everyone seems to have an opinion about how the protagonists could have been improved or how they should have not even been in the game. What about the Villains, who'd you replace and why?

 

I'd have Wei Cheng be replaced by Martin Madrazo as one of the primary villains, and have him be a lesser first act villain with Martin and the Cartel being the bigger threat throughout the story. I think it would just be a neater and less convoluted narrative this way.

Edited June 10, 2016 by Edward Nashton

[Kingbing]

I would have completely removed three of them because there is literally nothing memorable about any of them. I would have actually had only one well developed antagonist instead of 4 filler antagonists that no one will ever remember.

[Algonquin Assassin]

Only one? Ideally I would scrap them all and make Madrazo the only antagonist, but for the sake of the thread I would definitely scrap Stretch. To think this guy is in an antagonist role compared to so many other great antagonists throughout the series is a complete joke.

[Misunderstood]

Like SOL said, I would scrap all and make Madrazo the only (or at least the main) antagonist. He's the only one who could have actually been something in V. But for the sake of the thread, Stretch. This dude's character is not expanded on at all. On top of that, he is barely in the game and I fondly remember having to google him to remember who he was the first time I completed V's final mission. Yes, Sonny and Dimitri didn't make too many on-screen appearances either but at least they always felt like a threat and constantly interacted with our protagonist through other means.

Edited June 10, 2016 by Misunderstood

[ChiroVette]

None. I would definitely keep all of them. I think they were all fun to kill hate and battle against!

 

Love Haines. Great government stooge, works so well with the awesome government intrigue sub-plot of the game! Maybe I was exposed to too many conspiracy theories growing up, but whenever stories find fun and clever ways to paint clandestine US government agencies as rogue and psychotic, and then bring in some mega-rich paramilitary organization that overthrows governments all over the world, I LOVE it!

 

The dialog between Cheng and Trevor was classic. Funny as hell, especially in the plane at the end of Bury the Hatchet.

 

Weston may be one of the best antagonists in the GTA universe. Rich, cocky, Machiavellian jerk. I loved killing him!

 

 

Technically Johnny K is an antagonist, right? Though admittedly a VERY short-lived one. Hahahaha sorry, couldn't resist bringing Drug-Addled-Shoe-Boy into this!

 

[Uncle Vlad]

I´d make Madrazo a main antagonist and scratch Weston and Haines (especially Haines, the whole FIB plot would be omitted) . And I´d give Stretch and Wei Cheng more screen time/missions including them and make them some decent minor antagonists.

[Lester-The-Molester]

Why would you want to replace Mr Leisurewear?

[Uncle Vlad]

Why would you want to replace Mr Leisurewear?

 

Because I think that he´s an terrible antagonist. He´s just annoying instead of intimidating (why do they even bother with this clown, especially Trevor?) and his whole shadow war on the IAA is ridiculous. I get it, they wanted to parody the situation when corrupt government agencies are getting out of control. But a small department head can start a private war on the whole intelligence agency without his superiors getting wind of it? Come on. GTA doesn´t need too much realism, but that´s totally out of place.

 

Tenpenny shows how a corrupt public servant can be a great antagonist. He´s intimidating and cool as ice at the same time. He doesn´t try to "take over the world", he´s just doing his little dirty business to gain personal advantage to a certain extent.

 

But that´s just my personal opinon. I know there are enough people who liked Haines as an antagonist, that´s fine.

Edited June 10, 2016 by Uncle Vlad

[PhillBellic]

Where's the 'Remove All' Option?

 

None of them are worthy of the Antagonist Title. Madrazo just scrapes by, however.

[Megumi]

Replace Wei Cheng with Johnny Klebitz.

[ChiroVette]

Replace Wei Cheng with Johnny Klebitz.

 

You'd have to clean him off Trevor's shoe first.

[The Dedito Gae]

Replace Wei Cheng with Johnny Klebitz.

I came here to post the exact same thing, this would have been so much better, to have the lost pestering Trevor throughout the storymode instead of going full bitchmode.

[Honker1944]

Like people above I would replace O'Neil brothers with the Lost MC.Firstly Trevor take control of Aztecas, then he goes to the meeting with Chinese and offer them his products. After that mission TPE will start appearing on the streets of Blaine Country. In the next mission Trevor goes to the meeting but Wei Cheng saind that they accepted the Lost offer, becouse T is using his own drugs for his own and this is bad for buissnes. T get his bitch mode and attack the lost laboratory. He takes it over. Trevor will get phone call from Kuchta about Lost attack. He try to protect it but Lost managed to set it on fire. Trevor come back to his trailer but he was also burning. After he lost everything he make decision to travel to LS.

If we choose option C Franklin&Michael help T to take back his old terrytories. After beating the Lost crew he get inside their club when he start fight with Klebiz,which we know the end.

But if we choose ending A The lost will help us with hunting and killing T. After that F and M can take backup from Lost.

Isn't it far better?

Edited June 10, 2016 by Honker1944

[DimitriFaustin]

I actually would not remove any of them. I would, however, do something like this:

- Make missions where Steve Haines and the FIB give government like work to Franklin, i.e. him using jets like the P-996 LAZER and Hydra.

- Have Franklin plan and coordinate two heists (with the aid of Lester) - one involves Stretch, in which the heist goes successful at first but Stretch kinda screws it up in the end. The other heist involves the Unholy Trinity and Lamar,

and Lamar would have involvement in the Big Score.

- Make Molly Schultz more of an antagonist. Humourless, condescending miserable people always make excellent antagonists in my book.

Those are some of my ideas. However, I vehemently disagree about Martin Madrazo being a main antagonist, I'd rather he would be the protagonist of a "Episodes from Los Santos" DLC game.

[Journey_95]

Everyone, they all suck ass and are easily the worst antagonists of the series. I never felt threatened by any of them, they were just a nuisance and the protags agree since they finished them all off in one lame mission.

 

Haines would have been fine in a smaller role (he fits UL Paper's description of the FIB lol) but thats it, Weston is just a lame copy of him and I don't even remember the other two.

 

Madrazzo should have been the main antagonist and not turned into a lame joke

Edited June 10, 2016 by Journey_95

[RJX74]

Steve was a pretty good antagonist. My only complaint is that he barely picked on Franklin and Trevor. Also found it interesting how he was the "good guy", trying to protect US citizens from terror attacks.

Edited June 10, 2016 by RJX74

[Exploding Pants]

Defininitely Stretch because he was just an underdeveloped character, but as many others here have said, they all suck and Madrazo really had potential. He's the only one that actively hunts the character down at one point in the game and is a constant concern in that regard. The others are just annoying thundertwats.

[Truejsefan666]

Stretch.

The jerk tried to get Lamar, Franklin and Trevor killed!

 

[iiCriminnaaL]

Only one? While that would be helpful, they all are lame anyway.

 

I might replace Wei Cheng with Johnny Klebitz. Yesterday's protagonist, today's antagonist is an interesting idea in my opinion (even though he was a sort of a minor antagonist back in IV and The Ballad of Gay Tony ), and Johnny is already a well established criminal leader. And after all, The Lost MC HAVE already played an antagonistic role back in GTA IV, The Ballad of Gay Tony and Chinatown Wars.

 

Stretch is still nobody, but giving the fact that he's the antagonist of such an underdeveloped protagonist like Franklin, I don't give a sh*t about neither of the two.

 

Either that, or get rid of them all and have Madrazo as the main antagonist.

Edited December 13, 2018 by iiCriminnaaL 49

[TheSantader25]

I wouldn't remove anyone since their presence simply is relevant BUT Stretch and Wei Cheng need far more screen time. 

 

And I would definitely ADD madrazo. 

Edited December 13, 2018 by TheSantader25

[McAgent]

Tough choice between Weston, Stretch, and Cheng lol

[StarFyer]

I would remove all except Devin Weston. I would make him a secondary antagonist and make Madrazo the main antagonist. R* dropped the ball with Madrazo. He was too weak. I would make him much more ruthless.