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CF Punk

Will the Katana ever return as a weapon?

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Maibatsu545

It would be cool to have the chainsaw and katana back as well alongside full dismemberment. Yeah it's not pleasant but it is an M rated game and really is it any less nice than shooting someone? The only problem is any game with dismemberment there's going to be slowdown within the engine because of all the particle effects and ragdolls. Maybe when R* makes rage 2.0 in ten years or something like that. As it stands I don't think we'll get such a thing any time soon.

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Shadowfennekin

We need a katana and a chainsaw. Imagine that sh*t in the HD era.

^^^^ Please

It being "not realistic hurr" won't work anymore as both TBoGT and V WEREN'T REALISTIC

I demand my chainsaw.

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Queen Elizabeth II

 

 

mainly IV fans

 

It's 2016 and poeple get mad because of the glorious GTA IV.

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GTAVGG

No. Because GTA's in HD era are becoming more anti-mayhem and anti-fun due to the whole "grounded in realism" sh*t being thrown around by many players who want everything to "makes sense" for the character they are roleplaying, otherwise you'll be slapped with the "12 year old" tag from the so called "mature audience" who can't even stomach a simple and fun item called jetpack.

I think R* ( and even players, mainly IV fans ) really wants GTA to feel as realistic as possible, and that's the sad thing. Even how the ESRB game ratings works could also likely be a reason but I find it unfair anyways to target only GTA as opposed to other games for its depiction of violence.

"As realistic as possible"? You do know that katanas and chainsaws are real things and homing missile launchers and sticky bombs are not.

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GTAVGG

 

homing missile launchers and sticky bombs are not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_explosive

 

:p

Well, I learned something today. But, unless I missed it (I skimmed through the article), there aren't any sticky bombs. Like the idea of throwing a remote detonated bomb and it attaching to something or someone. The closest thing like that were sticky grenades from WWII.

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The Dedito Gae

Of course, i don't even need gore, just give me the chainsaw and katana back.

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Big_Smiley

Katana was one of few best things in VC.

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Simply_Wasted

This isn't a melee weapon, but I REALLY want a flamethrower in the new games.

This could work out. But chainsaws How would this work? Like Stoney said without body parts chopping off is there really a point? The fun thing about the katana is that it could behead peds with ease. I don't think R* would ever add the chainsaw. They did add the machete which returned from the 3D era with little slash to the body. But katanas could work.

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Osho

Well, I learned something today.

It wouldn't hurt to check this outGraphic violenceeither.

"As realistic as possible"? You do know that katanas and chainsaws are real things.

I do realise you definitely need to know more about what I've linked above.

.. "as realistic as possible" can be interpreted in many ways than what I tried to "cover in short". Didn't know I need to explain in more detail since its not too complicated to understand.

If you have played 3D era GTA's then you don't need to think about the possibilities that weapons of these kind allow players to use them in ways to carry acts of violence. The difference comes not from what you're holding in your hands are real weapons or not, but from the execution ( considered as over the top violence, involving gore and dismemberment, etc regardless of how real the weapons look ) and the details in its graphic quality and presentation, as opposed to what you find in killing cartoony enemies of 3D era.

 

Those who are supporting are either acting oblivious, or double standards exist on what is acceptable in "over the top", "makes sense" for a video game to them.

Without the dismemberment, and/or gore effects, these weapons make no sense to include either.

Ask them to support something as non-violent as the Jetpack joyride that offers more benefits, 100% positive and have no negative influence in the game, and many people would get their panties in a bunch over the most harmless thing called jetpack...

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Big_Smiley

 

This isn't a melee weapon, but I REALLY want a flamethrower in the new games.

This could work out. But chainsaws How would this work? Like Stoney said without body parts chopping off is there really a point? The fun thing about the katana is that it could behead peds with ease. I don't think R* would ever add the chainsaw. They did add the machete which returned from the 3D era with little slash to the body. But katanas could work. But do we really need body parts for these weapons? I mean the chainsaw never had body parts flying all over the screen either. With VC all the way to VCS the most you had were blood droplets on your screen excluding SA And everytime you killed someone you would just keep jabing the saw into their body with just minimal blood poring out. I would love to see these weapons retured into the HD era. I agree with @Midnight hitman, i don't care if it isn't graphic i just want to see how these weapons look in the HD era. The machete isn't enough in V. We need OG melee weapons.
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Mac Tonight

 

 

This isn't a melee weapon, but I REALLY want a flamethrower in the new games.

This could work out. But chainsaws How would this work? Like Stoney said without body parts chopping off is there really a point? The fun thing about the katana is that it could behead peds with ease. I don't think R* would ever add the chainsaw. They did add the machete which returned from the 3D era with little slash to the body. But katanas could work.
But do we really need body parts for these weapons? I mean the chainsaw never had body parts flying all over the screen either. With VC all the way to VCS the most you had were blood droplets on your screen excluding SA And everytime you killed someone you would just keep jabing the saw into their body with just minimal blood poring out. I would love to see these weapons retured into the HD era. I agree with @Midnight hitman, i don't care if it isn't graphic i just want to see how these weapons look in the HD era. The machete isn't enough in V. We need OG melee weapons.

 

I mean, it doesn't have to be chopping off limbs or tearing people in half like in Doom. Plus, Rockstar has added at least SOME goriness to V. Like with the machete where you come up from behind, stick the machete in someone's head then yank it out. Just simple animations but nothing too over-the-top.

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Maibatsu545

Not to sound like a gore hound, (i hate movies like SAW, and Saints Row 2 is one of my favorite open world games and has almost no ingame gore) but why WOULD dismemberment be so bad? You're already shooting pieces of metal into humans, lightng them on fire, torturing people (in some missions) and crushing their bones with cars. I say the violence should be as realistic as possible. It SHOULD make the player feel queasy to hurt people. Not glorify violence and death with unrealistic animations that make it cutsey or funny or seem "badass". The life of a violent criminal is not at all pleasant.

 

Now that they have the technology to realistically portray people and places, the gameplay should be equally realistic. Violence is not "cool". It is gross and unappealing. That's how it should be in my opinion. Not some kind of arcadey romp. We're past those days now, and the realism should reflect that.

 

I'm not saying have a protagonist who's constantly bemaoning his criminal actions. Not saying the fun factor has to be reduced to make the game "realistic". I'm not talking about that kind of realism, because who wants to sit in a virtual jail cell for the entire game? But I would like to make players who thinks constantly rampaging and killing everything in sight is the "proper" way to play GTA (as ive heard many Onljne defenders argue) to take a step back and say to themselves "you know, this is kind of f*cked up".

 

Personally as I grew older with GTA rampages became less and less appealing to me, and immersion, story and being a person who runs a realistic criminal empire became more interesting. But that could just be me.

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Algonquin Assassin

Not to sound like a gore hound, (i hate movies like SAW, and Saints Row 2 is one of my favorite open world games and has almost no ingame gore) but why WOULD dismemberment be so bad? You're already shooting pieces of metal into humans, lightng them on fire, torturing people (in some missions) and crushing their bones with cars. I say the violence should be as realistic as possible. It SHOULD make the player feel queasy to hurt people. Not glorify violence and death with unrealistic animations that make it cutsey or funny or seem "badass". The life of a violent criminal is not at all pleasant.

Now that they have the technology to realistically portray people and places, the gameplay should be equally realistic. Violence is not "cool". It is gross and unappealing. That's how it should be in my opinion. Not some kind of arcadey romp. We're past those days now, and the realism should reflect that.

I'm not saying have a protagonist who's constantly bemaoning his criminal actions, but I would like to make players who thinks constantly rampaging and killing everything in sight is the "proper" way to play GTA (as ive heard many Onljne defenders argue) to take a step back and say to the selves "you know, this is kind of f*cked up".

Agreed. I think if decapitation/dismemberment was kept to a reasonable level rather than limbs constantly flying everywhere it wouldn't be that bad.

 

I miss gore in games like Manhunt for example.

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Maibatsu545

Yeah I mean, it doesn't have to be like Kill Bill with body parts flying all around and blood gysers in every mission, but if this game is truly for adults then I see nothing wrong with realistic depictions of violence. If a game makes you question your actions (especially violence on innocent people) then it's doing something right. Again, in my opinion. It's better to SHOW the violence as horrifying, rather than bash you over the head with some kind of narrative thats constantly TELLING you that violence is wrong, which is why a lot of people criticize Niko and Vic Vance as hypocritical.

 

Just saying. There's a bit of cognitive dissonance when you have a game like GTA5 where everything is super detailed and realistic then when someone gets hit with an RPG they fly around ragdoll cartoonishly. It breaks the immersion and quite frankly looks stupid to me. Others might disagree and that's perfectly fine. It's just how I feel.

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The Dedito Gae

Not to sound like a gore hound, (i hate movies like SAW, and Saints Row 2 is one of my favorite open world games and has almost no ingame gore) but why WOULD dismemberment be so bad?

I'm a gore hound but i'm somewhat against gore in gta just for technical reasons only, these games handle enough things as it is, can't see them adding "breakable" ped models, last thing i want is glitches related to flying heads (although it would be kinda funny)

 

The violence would still pack a punch and in all honesty, i wouldn't care if

and chainsaws seem like the kind of hazzards you would thrust inside people's stomach/backs, this weapon doesn't really need dismemberment to be visually shocking.

Just add a gush of blood coming out of the gut, an ear obliterating scream and presto, Chainsaw.

 

Honestly, i just want people to stop looking nice when they receive a shotgun shell to the head, not manhunt levels, but a little model deformation would do wonders there.

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FRANKLINCLINTON2

It would be good if katana returns in gta 6 or another gta

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Big_Smiley

 

Not to sound like a gore hound, (i hate movies like SAW, and Saints Row 2 is one of my favorite open world games and has almost no ingame gore) but why WOULD dismemberment be so bad?

I'm a gore hound but i'm somewhat against gore in gta just for technical reasons only, these games handle enough things as it is, can't see them adding "breakable" ped models, last thing i want is glitches related to flying heads (although it would be kinda funny)

The violence would still pack a punch and in all honesty, i wouldn't care if

and chainsaws seem like the kind of hazzards you would thrust inside people's stomach/backs, this weapon doesn't really need dismemberment to be visually shocking.

Just add a gush of blood coming out of the gut, an ear obliterating scream and presto, Chainsaw.

Honestly, i just want people to stop looking nice when they receive a shotgun shell to the head, not manhunt levels, but a little model deformation would do wonders there.

It's all up to R* to decide about this. The only reason why these HD era games (IV and V) Never had Intense Gore Is because they wanted to go realistic with the violence and move on with the gore in the 3D era. It seems like if they made their next gta very realistic with actual body parts and gore showing the ESRB would be bitching like crazy about parental ratings and sh*t. Part of the reason why there's has never been a Manhunt 3. Imagine that game with these current-gen graphics? Edited by GTA_The_Series
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The Dedito Gae

Is more a technical issue than a design choice, if we are going technical, it would be more realistic having gore than not.

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Mikeol1987

GTA I don't think will have limb dismemberment for a very long time to come, unless the setting goes further back than 1960.
too much politics involved in that and setting in the modern world, nothing to do with technical limitations. Same reason animals are not in online. Won't happen for a while, however the release of this 'murdering' game 'Friday The 13th' may change attitudes and break further barriers. we wait and see.

Regardless of the addition of extra gore, I would love to see the return of both the chainsaw and katana.

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Queen

If they ever add the katana then they need to do something special with it. I'd love for them to allow two players to engage in a sword fight...something akin to Dishonored, I suppose.

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Agent Terminus

It would be great if it was added but R* would give it an insane price for a smiggin of shark card sales. Then the Katana won't even have a unique melee attack style/form which kills any LS Hipster samurai wanna-be. I was disappointed in the switchblade when it came out for this lack of unique combat animations. Sure, it had a cool equipping animation but the weapon was used so improperly... A unique grip change (underhand) and stab will be nice to see for an assassin. Back to relevance with a Katana I highly doubt they will ever add this and if they did there would be something very off about it.

 

P.S. Ninjas don't use katanas, not a weapon for me.

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Michael

I loved the Katana in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, especially when that sword fight happened with that guy on the boat during the mission The Da Nang Thang, so I would love to see the Katana back in a new Grand Theft Auto game.

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Eugene H. Krabs

I could care less about the katana considering that I used the chainsaw more, but R* can give the katana a shot in the next GTA game.

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DERGaming

Why does everyone love the katana? It is just a cooler looking knife

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GTAVGG

Why does everyone love the katana? It is just a cooler looking knife

Ecaxtly! Because it's cool.

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DERGaming

 

Why does everyone love the katana? It is just a cooler looking knife

Ecaxtly! Because it's cool.

 

 

I never really liked it because it looked so weird when you wack it around although this is only my opinion

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Big_Smiley

 

 

Why does everyone love the katana? It is just a cooler looking knife

Ecaxtly! Because it's cool.

 

I never really liked it because it looked so weird when you wack it around although this is only my opinion

Who really cares how wierd it looked. I just loved chopping heads off in VC. Looked so much more satisfying in VC than SA imo.

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Queen

 

 

 

Why does everyone love the katana? It is just a cooler looking knife

Ecaxtly! Because it's cool.

 

I never really liked it because it looked so weird when you wack it around although this is only my opinion

Who really cares how wierd it looked. I just loved chopping heads off in VC. Looked so much more satisfying in VC than SA imo.

 

Agreed. Though I would certainly hope that the head doesn't disappear. I would rather it roll around on the ground. The more gruesome, the better. :p

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RogerWho

I believe katanas are one of those things that we say are cool mostly because we've always been told they're cool and not because there's anything inherently special about them, at least not in video game terms (just like a jetpack).

 

What advantage does a katana have against a regular sword, for a video game? Nothing really. It's just something more exotic and something that ninjas use, not the weapon itself. If anything, I feel like it's too elegant of a wepaon to be used by common thugs like the typical GTA characters.

 

Katana is something that a character should deserve I think. Give it to some professional hitman trained by the yakuza and it will feel more right than some teenage moron like Franklin waving it around.

 

As for chainsaws, I agree that it loses its point without dismemberment and I think that goes a little bit too far for the whole subversion/satire/fun aspect of a game like this. Chainsawing through a herd of alien monsters, hellish demons or zombies - nice. Using it on regular people - eeeh. Never liked this aspect even in VC, I can imagine it even less in HD.

 

I'm personally a fan of melee weapons that can be thrown: meat cleavers, throwing knifes, regular steak knifes, tomahawks and whatnot.

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