GTA Online Petition: Allow players to play Finance & Felony in an

[HKM87]

I support this.

 

For those of you who say 'public session is how it should be', remember all the times you complained whena heist failed because of a randump or a troll?

Edited June 12, 2016 by HKM87

[DominusTaranis]

I support this.

 

For those of you who say 'public session is how it should be', remember all the times you complained whena heist failed because of a randump or a troll?

The greatest thing is that they're getting vote kicked out of sessions now. They go on, and on, and on about wanting to play THEIR way, but when other people use the tool given to them to enforce that they be allowed to play their way as well, they whine.

 

Too bad, so sad.

 

GTA:O isn't a competitive game. There are PvP modes, but it's not something designed to be strictly PvP, otherwise, Freemode, passive mode, and co-op wouldn't be a thing.

[TiberiusMcQueen]

Ultimately this entire thing is about us believing we should be allowed to play the game the way we want to. Allowing CEO work in invite/crew/friend lobbies will not kill public lobbies, allowing CEO work outside public doesn't force anyone to play them outside public lobbies if they don't want to, and allowing it outside public does not have any major impact on the amount of money players earn in game. There is literally no good reason to not support this mode being allowed in invite/crew/friend lobbies, especially when the only impact the restriction is having is spoiling the fun for a lot of the games players.

[Big_Show]

No reason to not let these missions run in closed lobbies, even with a passive lobby, the grind is still long with plenty of ways to waste money, like leaving your office in a savage for $4k. R* sure are getting greedy for those sharkcards.

Edited June 12, 2016 by The_Big_Show

[TiberiusMcQueen]

No reason to not let these missions run in closed lobbies, even with a passive lobby, the grind is still long with plenty of ways to waste money, like leaving your office in a savage for $4k. R* sure are getting greedy for those sharkcards.

Yeah. countless players are asking for it because they enjoy the content and would appreciate being able to play it without worrying about jet griefers.

 

Edit: saw that The_Big_Show edited his post, have edited mine accordingly

Edited June 12, 2016 by TiberiusMcQueen

[Nick930930]

First they make it so you can't enjoy the new cars and content in single player... now they won't even let us play in private lobbies.

 

 

Rockstar has gone too far. Unless they can 100% gaurentee there's no hackers online ever again, this needs to be changed so we can do CEO runs in private.

[gtajim]

I couldn't agree more we shouldn't be forced to play in a public lobby I want to play with friends and or crew.

[rlk232]

Wanna force us to do public, fine, but pay more with that in mind. 35% seems fair.

[BigJoe_1]

 

- You wouldn't be able to throw sticky bombs from the armored Kuruma. If you take a look at the car you'll notice that it's got pretty small windows, windows that are about the length and breadth of a single sticky bomb and are surrounded by armor plating, and they aren't exactly made of your standard glass. However, despite the fact that the windows, when they break don't completely smash and dissapear, but get small/medium holes in them, you're still able to throw sticky bombs through the space, as if there's nothing there. This is something that could literally turn the car into an armored car and not the douchemobile that it's commonly known as. But I don't make the changes, I only moan about them not being made .

Actually, you can't throw stickies (or any other explosives) out of an armored Kuruma. Not sure if I'm reading your analyze of windows right, though, but good work on the dimensions and all.

 

The issue with making changes like that, so radical (especially the lazer with ammo cap), would just be a storm of sh*t for R*. The easy way to fix all of this is to simply enable the new CEO stuff to be done in an Invite Only/Crew/Friend Session. They're literally forcing us to lose money. Over-expensive office. Buy crates that can be destroyed. Set it in a public lobby where every idiot owns a jet or has a homing launcher in their pants. I honestly wonder, and I can't even begin to say how many times I've wondered this, if R* employees go home and play GTA:O. Like they don't just go home and watch baseball, they're gamers no doubt and there's no way that the devs of GTA play a game where you're a guy made out of wool and do puzzles. They play GTA or other open-world games. Do they get stuck in the clouds? Do they rage at glitched-money-bought jets that can be summoned as quickly as you can spawn? Seriously, I want a reporter to walk around in the R* offices and ask the people working there, "Do you play GTA:O? Why or why not?". Guarantee most of them would say, "no, I'd hate my life if I saw the hard work I put in is ruined by bad decisions from people higher than me."

 

I haven't caved in and bought a single CEO-related thing. I did get the Rumpo Custom but that's a vehicle. No way am I gonna spend my hard-earn money on something that swallows money like a broken slot machine. It's a shame because most people who hated the idea of public lobbies gave in just to try it out and they're bending a knee to R*, how easily conquered they are. I won't spend a single in-game or real-life cent until this CEO stuff is included in Invite Only, which will most likely never happen (please let me be wrong). It sucks because those that want to make money have to resort to the same old grinding (VIP/Missions/Heists) or buy a cash card, to then go in the CEO stuff in public lobbies because it's the latest new thing and there's f*ck all to do otherwise and enter a cycle of eternal hell of being poor, buying cash cards to supply for CEO stuff and be poor because dicks in jets are the new trend and has been for the past f*cking 3 years.

My bad, I was under the impression that you could due to the incompetence of R*. Logically you shouldn't even be able to shoot from inside of it either. Like I stated before, bulletproof glass is, you know, bulletproof, so there isn't really any reason for players to be able to shoot through it. It makes no sense for bullets to be able to exit the car via the glass, but unable to enter via the glass.

 

The way I see it the sh*t storm would only be from those guys who are only able to accomplish anything in the game through usage of the most OP stuff. A lot of the time when I end up in a mission with a player, even the simplest of missions, they're at least 6 times out of 10 driving an armored Kuruma. I don't know about you but whenever I get one of those missions where you ambush a bunch of guys for a brick of coke, I try to set up a stealthy approach and strike from an unexpected location to make it more enjoyable (sometimes I even dress up and go all James Bond for the occasion ).

Not these guys though, you can tell that in any mission that requires any weapon at all they're the first to call for their armored Kuruma just so they can go rambo without dying and suck all the fun out of the mission. In free roam these guys are your typical jet griefing scumbags who can only get pleasure (and actually kill anything) by ruining the game for others, just like before, they use the most powerful thing available so barely anyone has a chance to compete with them, because they know that if they use something like a Buzzard or Annihilator they'll get their arses handed to them repeatedly by moderately competant players.

I couldn't care any less if these guys (as well as all the squeakers) would suffer due to changes like this and frankly Rockstar shouldn't either, if a player needs to use top of the range equipment to do the simplest things in the game then they should get better and if they can't (or can't be arsed) then they shouldn't play at all. As for griefers they just shouldn't play at all, they're unwanted scum, plain and simple.

By not making any of the most powerful things in the game have any logical drawbacks (Jets - realistic guns, armored cars - REAL bulletproof glass) all Rockstar are doing is allowing those lazy players, as well the griefers, to thrive. This creates a massive flaw in the game due to players being able to do extremely risky things without suffering the consequences, as well as grief players effortlessly due to the most powerful thing in the game not adhering to the logic that most standard weapons do.

All I'm saying is that these changes are crucial to game balance and that the only players who'll have a problem with it are those who rely on these broken mechanics to do anything in the game.

 

Anyone with half a brain, you what make that a quarter, would notice that this update is designed to make players lose more money than they make. You can only do it around other (mostly a**hole) players, your cargo is pinpointed on the map for others, you're emphasized on the map by a specific color, the shipment costs are unproportional, vehicles are poorly implemented and designed (looking at you Brickade!), you can only carry one crate per pickup yourself (even if you're driving a Hummer or pickup truck), one of the upgrades for the office costs around half a million and is completely functionless and you can't find that out until after you buy it and to top it off your associates get paid in pennies for doing what is comparable to some higher paying missions.

 

I've wondered this before and to be honest I don't really know what to think. With the way companies like R* work I'm sure the devs don't get nearly as big a say as I think they do. If you know tell me? Nonetheless it's a no brainer that GTA devs play GTA. Why would anyone want to help design a game that doesn't interest them?

 

There's no point in lying on my part (you'd see right through me if I did ), I've given this whole update a go to the extent that I could. I saved up money to buy the HQ and a warehouse, I tried filling it myself and with friends, needless to say I (for some reason) let myself become disappointed when window lickers in jets f*cked up my deliveries. I am however happy that I didn't fall for buying that piece of sh*t safe, could see that being useless a mile away. I haven't bought any of the vehicles though, I'm still pissed after buying the Savage and finding out that it's a glass cannon so am I f*ck buying the Brickade if the Pegasus version can only take a fraction of the hits the mission version can.

Edited June 14, 2016 by BigJoe_1

[Guest]

This is still going? This is pretty much a giant bitch and moan topic about something you don't like in the game. Or do the mod gods decide what's B&M? Fairly convenient.

[Dr Labuschagne]

This is still going? This is pretty much a giant bitch and moan topic about something you don't like in the game. Or do the mod gods decide what's B&M? Fairly convenient.

This

 

 

I guess its down to just two drivers who don't buckle under pressure, precision planing and a pilot who can anticipate.

 

This thread is all about bitching...

[Non Funkable Token]

A formal petition is like the bitch&moan thread now. Okay.

[Guest]

Hell no! That would defeat the purpose of it. Selling and delivering product is suppose to be risky. Players are simply playing the same role a NPC does in missions. Make the mission more challenging. Get you some friends to protect you problem solved. More fun that way too. CEO work isnt for grinding anyway so ppl wanting to go in a lobby alonme and grind are wasting time.

[TiberiusMcQueen]

Hell no! That would defeat the purpose of it. Selling and delivering product is suppose to be risky. Players are simply playing the same role a NPC does in missions. Make the mission more challenging. Get you some friends to protect you problem solved. More fun that way too. CEO work isnt for grinding anyway so ppl wanting to go in a lobby alonme and grind are wasting time.

So because you want to play it in public means that those of us that want to play it, but not in public troll filled sessions shouldn't even have the option? As for the "waste of time" statement, I think I'll be the judge of whether or not the way I choose to play the game is a "waste of time".

Edited June 15, 2016 by TiberiusMcQueen

[Toxic_Paradox]

There is a reason why rockstar did this because they are retards

 

They should allow to play f and f update in any kind of lobby(has 1 player or more)except on a solo lobby

Edited June 15, 2016 by darkdragon74

[_PANiC_]

Is this still a thing?!

 

CEO supply and sales work is designed to be played in a freeroam lobby only, thats the point!. Its about making decisions, taking risks and being smart!.

 

Its a dull enough game-mode without sitting in a private lobby going to and fro with crates unchallenged, what are you some kind of retarded lemmings that need to be hand held to a soulless grind for in game cash!.

 

Rockstar dont want you doing that, its a lose for them on two fronts 1. It makes their game concept dull and only fit for the above lemmings 2. They dont want to make it easy for large game cash gains (Kesh kerds)

 

Get over it already or go play Fallout 4 ?!

[Elis Pekka]

CEO/VIP exclusive lobbys.

Edited June 15, 2016 by Elis Pekka

[_PANiC_]

We need CEO/VIP exclusive lobbys. That's it.

You want it, you dont need it.

[D.A.]

PC people claim they have the best version but have to make a petition to get rid of modders. I mean...what.

[iddqdvie]

PC people claim they have the best version but have to make a petition to get rid of modders. I mean...what.

i am on pc and i would go back to ps4 the second its on 60fps.

 

but its lovely at the moment, seems like only descent people are online. i am not sure what to think, i guess the griefers are on free aim for the mouse? my aim mode always switches with the different ppl that invite to races, its mostly free aim but now that i have auto aim all the time i might experience a wrong picture.

[Bandersnatch]

Sure signed

 

To many lobby's look like a chimpanzee had a good time in a tin can ...

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

Alright I'm fine with signing this because public lobbies are mayhem theese days. I'm just glad that rockstar will allow u to play without other people in a public lobby. If rockstar forced there has to be 15 other people in a public lobby for u to deliver crates all of us will be f*cked. I hope rockstar makes it so u can do it in invite only sessions and crew sessions so a guy with a vehicle armed with a gun (mostly a hydra) doesn't destroy all ur crates and kills u multiple times .

 

Also this is a money grab didn't u see on the finance and felony stream that rockstar did on their youtube channel. The guys who were in the stream left the public lobby so rockstar knows exactly what goes on in public lobbies. It makes sense rockstar are trying to get their shark card sales up. Think about it u lose money when someone destroys ur crates because u paid for it so rockstar want u to lose money so u no choice, but to buy shark cards.

 

Well rockstar are getting way to greedy for money hey well at least their not as bad as activison is. Activison only made u buy modern warfare remastered with infinite warfare so more people would buy it. f*ck u activison for not listening to the community.

Edited June 15, 2016 by Thegrandtheftmaster

[TiberiusMcQueen]

Is this still a thing?!

 

CEO supply and sales work is designed to be played in a freeroam lobby only, thats the point!. Its about making decisions, taking risks and being smart!.

 

Its a dull enough game-mode without sitting in a private lobby going to and fro with crates unchallenged, what are you some kind of retarded lemmings that need to be hand held to a soulless grind for in game cash!.

 

Rockstar dont want you doing that, its a lose for them on two fronts 1. It makes their game concept dull and only fit for the above lemmings 2. They dont want to make it easy for large game cash gains (Kesh kerds)

 

Get over it already or go play Fallout 4 ?!

The fact that we can play VIP jobs in invite only for much greater profit kinda destroys your entire argument about R* not wanting us to make money easily. And the whole risk and reward thing, only works if the reward matches the risk, which it doesn't.

[_PANiC_]

 

Is this still a thing?!

 

CEO supply and sales work is designed to be played in a freeroam lobby only, thats the point!. Its about making decisions, taking risks and being smart!.

 

Its a dull enough game-mode without sitting in a private lobby going to and fro with crates unchallenged, what are you some kind of retarded lemmings that need to be hand held to a soulless grind for in game cash!.

 

Rockstar dont want you doing that, its a lose for them on two fronts 1. It makes their game concept dull and only fit for the above lemmings 2. They dont want to make it easy for large game cash gains (Kesh kerds)

 

Get over it already or go play Fallout 4 ?!

The fact that we can play VIP jobs in invite only for much greater profit kinda destroys your entire argument about R* not wanting us to make money easily. And the whole risk and reward thing, only works if the reward matches the risk, which it doesn't.

 

Nope. the potential rewards for success of CEO buying and selling of full warehouses is far higher than VIP work. This also applies to the higher risk matching rewards. Not destroyed, all ok here

[TiberiusMcQueen]

 

 

Is this still a thing?!

 

CEO supply and sales work is designed to be played in a freeroam lobby only, thats the point!. Its about making decisions, taking risks and being smart!.

 

Its a dull enough game-mode without sitting in a private lobby going to and fro with crates unchallenged, what are you some kind of retarded lemmings that need to be hand held to a soulless grind for in game cash!.

 

Rockstar dont want you doing that, its a lose for them on two fronts 1. It makes their game concept dull and only fit for the above lemmings 2. They dont want to make it easy for large game cash gains (Kesh kerds)

 

Get over it already or go play Fallout 4 ?!

The fact that we can play VIP jobs in invite only for much greater profit kinda destroys your entire argument about R* not wanting us to make money easily. And the whole risk and reward thing, only works if the reward matches the risk, which it doesn't.

 

Nope. the potential rewards for success of CEO buying and selling of full warehouses is far higher than VIP work. This also applies to the higher risk matching rewards. Not destroyed, all ok here

 

It takes hours upon hours to fill a warehouse, in public any one of your crate purchases can get destroyed, your warehouse can come under npc attack, and your deliveries can get destroyed by people in jets in seconds. Considering how big of arseholes people are in free roam, I'm gonna have to say it absolutely does not match up with doing VIP work solo, not even close. And your maximum profit off of it is around 1.5 million per warehouse, assuming nothing goes sideways, that absolutely is exceeded by max profit from VIP work.

 

Players in jets aren't a challenge, they're griefers, and there's nothing I find more dull and tedious than griefers, and I, and many others would appreciate the option to play the game's new mode without them.

Edited June 15, 2016 by TiberiusMcQueen

[Shaundi.]

Risk and reward, I'd rather the risk being my sh*t being stolen by NPCs or other players, not destroyed in seconds by a f*cktard in a jet.

[Non Funkable Token]

Okay, let's pretend that "the purpose of this dlc is to be played in public sessions only" is a real thing and more than just R* luring people into bankrupt. Let's pretend they tought that was a brilliant idea even from the players point of view.

 

You know what? When loads of people do whatever they can to play CEO in their own terms instead of R* terms, you can bet your ass the purpose is absolutely defeated. And in a business world a defeated purpose needs to be put to sleep sooner or later. I think even R* guys aren't THAT idiotic to risk their business shoving a wrong idea down customers throats for too long. We'll see.........

Edited June 15, 2016 by Perez84

[hispls]

 

I think even R* guys aren't THAT idiotic to risk their business shoving a wrong idea down customers throats for too long. We'll see.........

 

Yeah, like the months of "new" adversary modes every week.

 

Don't underestimate the low maturity/mentality of the GTAO player base, nor the ivory tower seclusion of the developers.

 

That stream of R* actually having to play it in invite only once they actually got into the real world was very telling to the probability that their in-house playtesting didn't go anything like the reality of playing in a typical open session.

Edited June 15, 2016 by hispls

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

 

 

Is this still a thing?!

 

CEO supply and sales work is designed to be played in a freeroam lobby only, thats the point!. Its about making decisions, taking risks and being smart!.

 

Its a dull enough game-mode without sitting in a private lobby going to and fro with crates unchallenged, what are you some kind of retarded lemmings that need to be hand held to a soulless grind for in game cash!.

 

Rockstar dont want you doing that, its a lose for them on two fronts 1. It makes their game concept dull and only fit for the above lemmings 2. They dont want to make it easy for large game cash gains (Kesh kerds)

 

Get over it already or go play Fallout 4 ?!

 

The fact that we can play VIP jobs in invite only for much greater profit kinda destroys your entire argument about R* not wanting us to make money easily. And the whole risk and reward thing, only works if the reward matches the risk, which it doesn't.

 

Nope. the potential rewards for success of CEO buying and selling of full warehouses is far higher than VIP work. This also applies to the higher risk matching rewards. Not destroyed, all ok here

 

Risk and reward, I'd rather the risk being my sh*t being stolen by NPCs or other players, not destroyed in seconds by a f*cktard in a jet.

Okay, let's pretend that "the purpose of this dlc is to be played in public sessions only" is a real thing and more than just R* luring people into bankrupt. Let's pretend they tought that was a brilliant idea even from the players point of view.

 

You know what? When loads of people do whatever they can to play CEO in their own terms instead of R* terms, you can bet your ass the purpose is absolutely defeated. And in a business world a defeated purpose needs to be put to sleep sooner or later. I think even R* guys aren't THAT idiotic to risk their business shoving a wrong idea down customers throats for too long. We'll see.........

Alright if u guys watch the finance and felony stream rockstar posted u would know that rockstar knows what goes on in public lobbies. Didn't u see the guys who were playing Gta in the stream said good bye public lobby. They joined a private session so rockstar knows that we hate this especially when the modders use the rape feature on their mod menu. Rockstar knows u spent money on those crates and when they destroy them u lose money. Rockstar knows if u loose too much money u will be forced to buy shark cards if u want money fast. Edited June 15, 2016 by Thegrandtheftmaster

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

Woa woa woa what is this sh*t about hydras and lazers being OP against CEO vehicles.

Lol that's not true, let's also nerf insurgents, sticky bombs, tanks, homing launchers while we are at it, recently i picked up my Bati 800, and with one sticky bomb to a CEO's vehicle, KABOOM, it was easy as hell.

Just because its easy to destroy CEO's with a jet it doesn't mean those should be nerfed, as other vehicles(and weapons) represent a huge threat.

On the other hand, CEO missions should remain available only to public lobbies, where is the fun of risking if not?