GTA Online Petition: Allow players to play Finance & Felony in an

[Akurei_Marquis]

Only way to make a safe big sale in game... Step #1 lag spike your XB1, or whatever system you play on...step #2 Then invite your crew, hopefully you have at least 29 people, this will be max population if server if 30, People... Effectively locking the server and no random can come in and go on a murderous children Killing sprees.

 

Only way to play GTA5 and be able to stock and sell in peace...

 

If you do not have at least 30 People in your clan... You can also vote kick randomes out if your on a run. But still you will need a good size crew and vote kick has a timer.

Edited August 11, 2017 by Akurei_Marquis

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

My bad. Guess you are not familiar with Postman Pat and his kitty. It's a tv series for kids. About a postman driving his van with his kitty. You should look it up. Might be what you crave.

 

A Postman Pat DLC. For whining kids.

 

Le good ol' compelling argument of "you don't like certain aspects of the game = you're little whiny kiddos, this is GTA, lemme destroy your Post Op vans within the security of my Oppresor or go play Minecraft or whatever hurr durr"

 

Like I said before, God forbid that we, the players who actually play the goddamn game, suggest ANYTHING to improve it, we're f*ckin' entitled just for wanting more ways to play our way instead of getting thrown into the melting pot of bullsh*t that is Freemode?

 

How we dare to suggest anything that could barely affect R* hugh mungus revenue even whey already earned enough money to develop 4 more GTAs, 1 RDR, 1 Midnight Club, 3 R* Tennis and keep the change?

[Akurei_Marquis]

This just in from R* In celebration if Trump going to war with North Korea all Hydras now have tactical nukes warheads on their rockets.... Let the mushroom clouds shine brightly over Los Santos!!!

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

I think recruiting strangers on YT to help this petition would be a good start.

Sadly, while good GTA YouTubers like Broughy and GTA Series Videos could push such petition, I think it's not enough people.

 

And forget about asking people like MrClickbaitWTF, (sadly) one of the biggest GTA related YouTubers. Do you know how many videos he made about the OpenIV fiasco? Zero.

[Akurei_Marquis]

The latest GTA 6 gossip though is about the sheer size of the GTA 6 map. According to a new rumour, Rockstar Games could be trying to recreate the entire of the US with GTA 6, rather than just a single city.

 

With the rumoured release date tipped to lie somewhere in 2020 (we know, that feels like a million years away), apparently Rockstar is using that time to recreate the entire country.

 

 

Wed advise that you take this with a large pinch of salt though, as we doubt you need to take that 100 per cent literally. We reckon GTA 6 might just feature multiple US locations with the distances between each one cut down considerably.

 

It could be like how The Crew managed to cover the entire US and turned it into a navigable map that takes an hour and a half in real time to drive from one end to the other.

 

GTA 6 Wishlist What we want to see

Heres the top 10 things wed like to see in GTA 6 when it is eventually released:

 

1) A strong female protagonist

Every single GTA game has had a strong male protagonist, whether its the trio Franklin, Trevor and Michael from GTA 5, Niko from GTA 4 or good old Carl CJ Johnson from GTA San Andreas.

 

Its about time Rockstar Games showed how well it can deal with introducing a strong female character to that line-up, even as part of a multi-protagonist system like GTA 5. Weve not had a single strong female supporting character since Catalina in GTA 3, either.

 

Rockstar has been criticised in the past for a sexist attitude towards the female characters in its games, thanks to its penchant for prostitutes and strip clubs. What better way to prove the naysayers wrong than to introduce a female lead?

 

 

2) A fresh location

One of the top things on the GTA 6 wishlist is a brand-new location. So far, the GTA series has explored three key areas: Vice City, Liberty City and San Andreas. Weve also dabbled in London and Alderney in some more minor GTA titles.

 

Despite there being 15 or so GTA titles, thats a pretty narrow location circle for the games.

 

Therefore, we think itll be refreshing to explore a new city in GTA 6. Imagine a GTA game set in Chicago, Philadelphia, New Orleans or even Washington DC.

 

3) A story set across multiple cities

Or even go a step further. Forget one brand-new GTA location. Why have one, when you can have two?

 

Gamers have long awaited a GTA game that spans two cities, and thanks to the power of the Xbox One, PS4 and todays gaming PCs, surely GTA 6 is the time to try out such an idea.

 

4) The addition of fuel gauges

Were not sure how annoying this would get, but it would certainly add another layer of realism and panic to missions if you constantly had to check the fuel gauge of your vehicles as you squeal around the world.

 

Plus, it would make for some pretty tense gameplay if you had to change cars mid-chase as your original car had run out of gas.

 

5) Better vehicle variation

Although GTA 5 brought back bicycles, wed like GTA 6 to branch out on the vehicle variation available. If the series continues to go down the San Andreas path, wouldnt it be appropriate for GTA 6 to introduce rollerblades and skateboards with which to traverse the boulevards?

 

6) Increased number and variation of side jobs

 

If Rockstar continues with the multiple-protagonist system, the side missions will need to become much more important. Instead of isolated incidents with minor characters, make the side missions for each character act more like subplots, where the lower-tier storylines see the characters deal with more personal issues.

 

Wed even be happy with an increased number of side quests with a little more variation on the types of minor missions we undertake no more fetch missions, please.

 

7) Better shops, more houses and a better city

 

GTA 5s San Andreas is certainly vast bigger in scale than the last three GTA games and Red Dead Redemption combined, in fact. However, bigger doesnt necessarily mean more interactive.

 

While driving through San Andreas seemingly unceasing terrain, you quickly realise that there isnt much to do outside of missions, side quests or the Strangers and Freaks meetings.

 

Yes, there are a few stalls on Vespucci Beach and a variety of smaller stores if you stray off the pavement, but wed really appreciate heightened interaction with the stores, houses and buildings within the new world.

 

8) A more interactive city population

The same can be said for the citizens. GTA 5 was an amazing game, but at times the city felt oddly empty. You can exchange insults and expletives with the pedestrians roaming the streets, but apart from that they were just placeholders.

 

In RPG games such as Skyrim, NPCs always have a purpose whether its just a story to spin or to actually give you a side quest.

 

Even if the GTA 6 NPCs only offer you the occasional fetching or protection mission, it would add another layer of realism to the game.

 

Perhaps theres potential for the NPCs to be more interactive with your protagonist in another way. Imagine yourself lying at the side of the road, bleeding profusely, and a helpful passer-by calls you an ambulance or chucks you a med-pack.

 

9) First-person option from the start

GTA 5 for Xbox One, PS4 and PC introduced an optional First Person Shooter (FPS) mode for the game. Its a great way to have a really immersive GTA experience and its impressive that Rockstar has implemented it in such a way that its possible to play through the whole game in first person.

 

It certainly changes up the combat system and driving sections of GTA 5, but we realise it isnt perhaps the best way to enjoy the game from start to finish.

 

Although it might not be for everyone, the FPS option should definitely be available to everyone from the off. Then you can decide how you play the game and customise your viewing angle to your particular playing style.

 

10) Simultaneous PC release

This goes without saying really, but we would love a simultaneous console and PC release for the next GTA game. Were fed up with waiting for the PC port to drop the GTA 5 PC edition still hasnt arrived, with the wait time now well over a year from the original release.

 

11) VR Support

 

The addition of a first-person perspective in GTA 5 added a poignant layer of realism to the experience, so imagine this in virtual reality. Such a feature might prove controversial, but it would certainly feel like a substantial stepping stone for a medium still in its infancy. Exploring a expansive open world without restrictions in VR would be simply mindblowing, and wed love to see Rockstar take a stab at it.

Edited August 11, 2017 by Akurei_Marquis

[Big Molio]

Only way to make a safe big sale in game... Step #1 lag spike your XB1, or whatever system you play on...step #2 Then invite your crew, hopefully you have at least 29 people, this will be max population if server if 30, People... Effectively locking the server and no random can come in and go on a murderous children Killing sprees.

Only way to play GTA5 and be able to stock and sell in peace...

If you do not have at least 30 People in your clan... You can also vote kick randomes out if your on a run. But still you will need a good size crew and vote kick has a timer.

I just start Haulage when I land in a session and see crews running for the vote button. Then I become an absolute nuisance until the time runs down. Crews will often lose loads, whereas if they hadn't voted, I would have let them be.

[Black-Dragon96]

You are incorrect. I thought I had a video saved of flying a dodo into a pylon and into a building however don't seem to be able to find it. The same applies for crashing a buggard. While the buggard may not take a rocket (I don't know, I've never been hit with a rocket in a buggard) it certainly is buffed to the point that you can fly it under the air base without causing it to smoke

Tell this to my crewmate who crashed his delivery dodo into a pylon just yesterday.

[Akurei_Marquis]

 

Only way to make a safe big sale in game... Step #1 lag spike your XB1, or whatever system you play on...step #2 Then invite your crew, hopefully you have at least 29 people, this will be max population if server if 30, People... Effectively locking the server and no random can come in and go on a murderous children Killing sprees.

Only way to play GTA5 and be able to stock and sell in peace...

If you do not have at least 30 People in your clan... You can also vote kick randomes out if your on a run. But still you will need a good size crew and vote kick has a timer.

I just start Haulage when I land in a session and see crews running for the vote button. Then I become an absolute nuisance until the time runs down. Crews will often lose loads, whereas if they hadn't voted, I would have let them be.

 

We now have over 40 people in our crew most of the time we control a server all to our selves... But at times not everyone can be on at the same time so we do run the risk of having a random come in, we first ask if they are friendly, if play is cool we watch them... If a good person we offer invite into our crew.

 

Now for the @sshole snot nosed murderous children first random kill gets them vote kicked. Not sure what system your on but in XB1 you cannot get back in on same server for several hours, or untill all the original voters leave Server.

 

Like I said we have work a rounds..... Key is like in everything safety in numbers...

Edited August 11, 2017 by Akurei_Marquis

[Parth13]

Irrelevant, however (and this may vary between country yet I've not seen any variation) it's either Mbps or it's MB/s.

 

The speeds stated on Rockstar's support page are in the same units as the speeds stated by your ISP and on Speedtest.net (and likely any other speed test sites)

Did I say something different or wrong? Have a problem reading words? I just stated which speed Blackdragon was referring to. And it was quite fast enough than what R* stated, heck even my Internet speed is 4x than what Bladckdragon gets, but that doesn't mean that I don't get dropped into a empty session because someone else in the session has higher ping, that's the problem with P2P, everyone that joins into the session has to share the load of everyother and each person, so if I join even into a session with only 12 and few of those has high ping and speed that R* stated, most people would get either thrown into their own empty session or get a network error and go to SP.

Once I was playing after the GR update a weird case of session drop happened, it was almost full and there were at least 26-27 people, I was waiting for my friend to join, and as soon as I saw his name on player list, people started to leave like you get a whole list of notification that bunch of people left, but this time only 8-10 people got dropped and others were still there including me. So one of the person that got dropped from the session had a slow/high ping Internet and his Internet also took some more people with him. And those that had stable connection and got lucky not getting dropped were still in the session.

[Guest]

 

Irrelevant, however (and this may vary between country yet I've not seen any variation) it's either Mbps or it's MB/s.

 

The speeds stated on Rockstar's support page are in the same units as the speeds stated by your ISP and on Speedtest.net (and likely any other speed test sites)

Did I say something different or wrong? Have a problem reading words? I just stated which speed Blackdragon was referring to. And it was quite fast enough than what R* stated, heck even my Internet speed is 4x than what Bladckdragon gets, but that doesn't mean that I don't get dropped into a empty session because someone else in the session has higher ping, that's the problem with P2P, everyone that joins into the session has to share the load of everyother and each person, so if I join even into a session with only 12 and few of those has high ping and speed that R* stated, most people would get either thrown into their own empty session or get a network error and go to SP.

Once I was playing after the GR update a weird case of session drop happened, it was almost full and there were at least 26-27 people, I was waiting for my friend to join, and as soon as I saw his name on player list, people started to leave like you get a whole list of notification that bunch of people left, but this time only 8-10 people got dropped and others were still there including me. So one of the person that got dropped from the session had a slow/high ping Internet and his Internet also took some more people with him. And those that had stable connection and got lucky not getting dropped were still in the session.

 

Clarification only, nothing more nothing less. I don't recall ever seeing MB/s written as MBps, it just isn't commonly done (at least not in the UK).

 

The rest, I don't dispute one bit. In fact I've outright stated that players who attempt to play GTA with poor internet connections cause issues for other players. As such, I really do believe they should implement some checks to avoid this. For instance, if you have a slow connection or high ping then it shouldn't allow you to attempt to enter a public lobby.

 

However, the only part of this topic that would be relevant to is the whole "empty public sessions should be unable to do sales or supplies" part of one of my suggestions, which clearly wasn't an acceptable solution and therefore is irrelevant.

 

 

 

Only way to make a safe big sale in game... Step #1 lag spike your XB1, or whatever system you play on...step #2 Then invite your crew, hopefully you have at least 29 people, this will be max population if server if 30, People... Effectively locking the server and no random can come in and go on a murderous children Killing sprees.

Only way to play GTA5 and be able to stock and sell in peace...

If you do not have at least 30 People in your clan... You can also vote kick randomes out if your on a run. But still you will need a good size crew and vote kick has a timer.

I just start Haulage when I land in a session and see crews running for the vote button. Then I become an absolute nuisance until the time runs down. Crews will often lose loads, whereas if they hadn't voted, I would have let them be.

 

 

We now have over 40 people in our crew most of the time we control a server all to our selves... But at times not everyone can be on at the same time so we do run the risk of having a random come in, we first ask if they are friendly, if play is cool we watch them... If a good person we offer invite into our crew.

 

Now for the @sshole snot nosed murderous children first random kill gets them vote kicked. Not sure what system your on but in XB1 you cannot get back in on same server for several hours, or untill all the original voters leave Server.

 

Like I said we have work a rounds..... Key is like in everything safety in numbers...

 

Restarting the game on xbone will allow you back in the session you were kicked from. I had a lot of fun with a crew who kicked me from my empty session when I/E was released by rejoining, starting up some VIP work and making it difficult for them until I was kicked again (I had time to waste, it was Christmas, I don't work at Christmas).

Edited August 12, 2017 by Guest

[Guest]

Since my dodo delivery kinda glitched out on me (black screen, respawn back on land, I'm sure you know the one) I didn't get chance to crash it in to a structure. However, I did get chance to fire three RPGs at a Buggard (first one is missing from video since I didn't record long enough - however that's the reason it's on it's side - still in working order)...

 

 

 

Notice how it's still in one piece after the first RPG in the video and the second one (third actual RPG) destroyed it.

 

Even without proof of the first RPG which sent it on it's side and caused the firey mess in the tunnel it still took two more to explode. But yeah, the Buggard isn't buffed or anything and can't take an RPG, except it can.

 

If there's still doubt, I'll do the same again next time I have that sale mission - probably somewhere more open than the tunnel.

[.Vooodu.]

The latest GTA 6 gossip though is about the sheer size of the GTA 6 map. According to a new rumour, Rockstar Games could be trying to recreate the entire of the US with GTA 6, rather than just a single city.

 

GTA 6 Wishlist What we want to see

Heres the top 10 things wed like to see in GTA 6 when it is eventually released:

 

1) A strong female protagonist

Every single GTA game has had a strong male protagonist, whether its the trio Franklin, Trevor and Michael from GTA 5, Niko from GTA 4 or good old Carl CJ Johnson from GTA San Andreas.

 

 

 

I think R* should should stick to a single city/area. And work on those details.. Because the bigger it gets the less detail and depth the cities will have.

 

As far as a Strong Female Protagonist goes.. I think thats a big mistake and doesn't really fit GT

 

If its going to be a female lead in GTA she needs to be bitchy, sharp,..somewhat slutty, a little hot and rather violent.

 

IMO the way hookers in GTA have been used to demonize GTA over the years.. And the kids who love to kill hookers for fun and post videos on youtube. I think its time for a Glorified Hooker Story in GTA.. From street corner to top of a criminal empire.

[Sky_Light12]

If there's still doubt, I'll do the same again next time I have that sale mission - probably somewhere more open than the tunnel.

anything else than "buggards" ?

[Guest]

As I've said before, as far as I'm aware the Dodo, Bagger, Trash Truck and Post Op van I believe take 3 RPGs and can sustain a lot of damage before blowing up. I wouldn't be surprised if it was all sale vehicles (I can't say I've tested them all not been shot at in them all though).

[Black-Dragon96]

^Dodo is not, bagger is not, biker sale buzzard is not. I now these three for sure. Dodo and buzzard got crashed into a pylon by a crewmate and the (unmanned) bagger blew up after an attack by a buzzard.

 

Thing is, even if the rest is buffed (i doubt that is the case) they are not buffed enough to withstand an attacking explosive bullet using hydra or an rocket spamming opressor.

Edited August 13, 2017 by Black-Dragon96

[Big Molio]

Thing is, even if the rest is buffed (i doubt that is the case) they are not buffed enough to withstand an attacking explosive bullet using hydra or an rocket spamming opressor.

And even if they were you would find some other excuse fella.

[Guest]

^Dodo is not, bagger is not, biker sale buzzard is not. I now these three for sure. Dodo and buzzard got crashed into a pylon by a crewmate and the (unmanned) bagger blew up after an attack by a buzzard.

 

Thing is, even if the rest is buffed (i doubt that is the case) they are not buffed enough to withstand an attacking explosive bullet using hydra or an rocket spamming opressor.

I posted a video of the biker sale buzzard being shot with 3 RPGs and you still argue it's not? Are you really this slow or do you argue just for the hell of it?

 

3 RPGs to blow up a biker sale buzzard after flying it halfway through the tunnel below Fort Zancudo, with video proof of the final 2 RPGs (while you can see the buzzard is on it's side, in the tunnel before the second RPG (first one in the clip). The buzzard has no rockets on it, it's either a biker sale or the MC buzzard. It cannot be the latter since I was selling solo, I had no road captain to request it. Regardless, it's buffed, whichever it was and we all know the road captains buzzard isn't buffed.

 

If your crew blew it up by hitting a pylon they lied to you and hit more than one pylon.

 

What more do you want?

 

How about YOU prove me wrong by firing a rocket at the post op van, garbage truck or bagger as soon as you get out of the factory since you clearly ignore any proof I post.

Edited August 13, 2017 by Guest

[Black-Dragon96]

I posted a video of the biker sale buzzard being shot with 3 RPGs and you still argue it's not? Are you really this slow or do you argue just for the hell of it?

 

3 RPGs to blow up a biker sale buzzard after flying it halfway through the tunnel below Fort Zancudo, with video proof of the final 2 RPGs (while you can see the buzzard is on it's side, in the tunnel before the second RPG (first one in the clip).

 

Says he shoots the buzzard with 3 rpgs and post a video showing himself shooting the buzzard with 2. K

 

By the way: I ones had a buzzard spawn halfway inside a wall. When i got it out the backend looked like it was inside a hydraulic press. Thing is the buzzard did not even smoke afterwards so you see it pretty durable from the start and lying on the side does not damage a buzzard that much when the engine is turned off.

 

If your crew blew it up by hitting a pylon they lied to you and hit more than one pylon.

So my own eyes lied to me. Your basicly saying that I did only imagine seeing my crewmates delivery dodo crash into a pylon and blow up on impact. K

 

How about YOU prove me wrong by firing a rocket at the post op van, garbage truck or bagger as soon as you get out of the factory since you clearly ignore any proof I post.

Cant do that because i dont own any of the biker bussines exept a document forgery that has never been started. And im not going to ask my crewmates to f*ck up their delivery on purpose juat to proof something to some random dude on the internet who writes angry Private messages just because I dont accept his bullsh*t unquestioned. Edited August 13, 2017 by Black-Dragon96

[Guest]

Because the clip was 30 seconds long, it missed the first RPG. However you still admit it was hit with 2 so the first didn't destroy it. Regardless of the one before the clip, it still had 2 RPGs.

 

It took 2 in the video, it's still buffed (despite it actually taking 3) Surely the fact there's exploded crap all over the place shows something happened before the clip.

 

I also said that next time I have the chance I'll do it in a more open space.

 

You know what, I've posted the video showing it can take at least one RPG and claiming that the damage caused to it before the clip started was an RPG, prove it wrong. You are arguing to argue now and refuse to even accept video as proof.

 

Although, even when all that is said and done, you claim to not have businesses so why the f*ck are you even arguing here? You don't play the stuff you are arguing about.

Edited August 14, 2017 by Guest

[Black-Dragon96]

It took 2 in the video, it's still buffed (despite it actually taking 3) Surely the fact there's exploded crap all over the place shows something happened before the clip.

You know, I dont think that taking 2 rpgs (or the 3 you claimed) is that big of a buff in a game where we have vehicles that can pump 20 rockets into you in less than 30 seconds.

 

You know what, I've posted the video showing it can take at least one RPG and claiming that the damage caused to it before the clip started was an RPG, prove it wrong. You are arguing to argue now and refuse to even accept video as proof.

If you want to proof something, proof it yourself. I only proof my own claims (if I can).

 

Although, even when all that is said and done, you claim to not have businesses so why the f*ck are you even arguing here? You don't play the stuff you are arguing about.

I dont have them, but my crewmates do and I help them on a regular basis so i know nearly every salemission and supply mission. Your video stands against my own experience (aka what i have seen with my own eyes while playing the game). And I do trust my own eyes more than a video on the internet (esspecialy if the dude who posted it demands that I simply accept what he "proofs" and gets angry when I start asking questions).

[Guest]

You need to prove a MC sale dodo explodes on impact with a pylon. You made that claim. I claimed these are buffed, I provided proof with regards to the buzzard. It's not for me to provide proof that the MC sale dodo explodes on impact with a pylon, that's down to you.

 

If it's 1 RPG and a single bullet it's buffed, point being, as previously stated (and you argued against) the sale vehicles are buffed. The fact is, it takes 3 RPGs to blow up a MC delivery buzzard, that is a buff. You want them invincible?!

 

I have proved, with a video, that the MC sale buzzard is buffed. You continue to refuse to accept that as proof. How, in that tiny and narrow mind of yours, is it possible to prove this more than a video? Try it yourself! Next time your "friend" sells and has any of these vehicles, once the product is delivered try breaking the vehicle. Fire 2 RPGs at the buzzard once it's empty of product and see for yourself, fly a dodo into a building once it's empty of product and see for yourself. Since they are empty you wont lose anyone anything.

 

Unless you're willing to do something to dispute my claim/proof you are in no position to argue against it. I claimed the vehicles are buffed, I was asked for proof, I provided proof. I also stated that, if it's not clear enough I would do it again next time, in a clearer area.

 

PS This is pretty f*cking far from demanding you simply accept it. You seriously want to argue against a video (which can also be found on my xbox.com account or xboxdvr in case you decide to claim it's edited). You're a f*cking idiot incapable of accepting you were incorrect.

Edited August 14, 2017 by Guest

[Xiled]

Oh boy a whole 3 rockets. Might as well be zero when you can fire 20 homing rockets from an oppressor, use mc and get a new one with 20 more rockets. Doesn't matter that it was "buffed" to take 3 rockets still can be killed by a strafe with the jet cannons.

[Guest]

A buff is a buff.

 

I claimed it. I was asked to prove it. I proved it. They are buffed as I previously claimed. If they aren't buffed enough that's something entirely different. A buff is a buff. My claims were not incorrect. Those who disputed it have been shown.

[Xiled]

You win a prize for using the word buff 6 times to describe the word buff. You called him an idiot for not believing a video you showed on the internet. Remember kids, don't trust everything you see on the internet. You can do anything with the magic power of video editing. Might as well be invincible since a jet can still destroy it with it's puny "armor". Talks about the vehicles being barely "buffed" has nothing to do with the updates that should be allowed to be played in private lobbies.

Edited August 14, 2017 by Xiled

[Guest]

So let me get this straight;

 

I claim vehicles are buffed

The claims are questioned

I show a video of the vehicles being buffed

They are now not buffed enough

Even video, which is available direct from xbox.com and therefore unedited, is not enough proof

It's also no longer a part of the discussion - presumably because it goes against what has been argued

 

Did I miss anything?

Edited August 14, 2017 by Guest

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

A better buff could be letting use our own vehicles instead of being forced to use the sh*ttiest, slowest and most vulnerable vehicles in the game, buffed or not.

 

Imagine doing the dreaded Post Op sale but instead of vans with less torque than a Caddie, your MC rolls out in APCs, Insurgents and supercars, you know, the vehicles that we bought with our money, legitimate or not.

[Guest]

But even insurgents, supercars and APCs can be blown up. I feel that even that wouldn't be acceptable to some.

 

This is also ignoring the whole subtle sale plan that LJT sets up for the postop or trash truck ones. And good luck delivering to the locations the dodo has to get to with insurgents, apcs etc.

 

Unless invite only is enabled and people can sell in peace, without any resistance from anything, people will complain.

[Black-Dragon96]

You need to prove a MC sale dodo explodes on impact with a pylon. You made that claim. I claimed these are buffed, I provided proof with regards to the buzzard. It's not for me to provide proof that the MC sale dodo explodes on impact with a pylon, that's down to you.[...]

 

[...]I have proved, with a video, that the MC sale buzzard is buffed. You continue to refuse to accept that as proof. How, in that tiny and narrow mind of yours, is it possible to prove this more than a video? Try it yourself! Next time your "friend" sells and has any of these vehicles, once the product is delivered try breaking the vehicle. Fire 2 RPGs at the buzzard once it's empty of product and see for yourself, fly a dodo into a building once it's empty of product and see for yourself. Since they are empty you wont lose anyone anything.

You claimed that all the vehicles (buzzard dodo and vans) are buffed but you only show "proof" for the buzzard not for the other vehicles. Its not my job to find proof against YOUR claims.

 

Like I said, I dont have these bussineses and Im not going to ask my crewmates to fail a sale just to proof you wrong.

Even in the case that these vehicles are indeed buffed to take 3 rpgs this buff is so insignificant that its not worth jacksh*t. We have vehicles able to fire 20 rockets in less than 30 seconds and explosive miniguns (where every bullet is worth a rocket) firing at 200 rpm. Its more like a sad excuse of a buff than an actuall buff.

 

PS This is pretty f*cking far from demanding you simply accept it. You seriously want to argue against a video (which can also be found on my xbox.com account or xboxdvr in case you decide to claim it's edited). You're a f*cking idiot incapable of accepting you were incorrect.

I dont give a flying f*ck where this video is from, I believe my own experience more than any video on the internet and my own showed me (multiple times by the way) that a sale dodo explodes on impact with a pylon.

[Guest]

I haven't had a sale with vans, baggers or postop vans in the last few days to record - I don't spend my life playing GTA.

I did have a dodo one however it glitched me to a black screen and back to land part way through, which removed the dodo and stopped me being able to record flying it in to anything or firing rpgs at it.

 

However, since you'll dispute any video, where's the point?

 

You are too fixated on getting it to invite only, with no other changes, ignoring all arguments posed to you, ignoring all proof given to you, why are you even arguing if you are incapable of even pretending you have any kind of flexibility, if you are incapable of actually having any kind of discussion other than one which is in entire agreement with you?

 

Fact is, the sale vehicles are buffed to take 2 RPGs and continue to be usable, 3 will destroy them, as previously claimed and questioned - I have provided adequate video evidence of this being fact and therefore that statement, for whatever reason it was said, stands whether you like it or not or want to believe it or not.

 

You inability to argue has therefore, unfortunately, lead to your posts being totally disregarded by myself. There is no point at all in you being involved in any discussion if you are incapable of accepting something which goes against what you say or claim. Good luck with the petition, I'm sure just banging on about having it without any other changes in invite only will be heard by Rockstar and the game adjusted to fit your requirements.

Edited August 14, 2017 by Guest

[Nyamber]

This is also ignoring the whole subtle sale plan that LJT sets up for the postop or trash truck ones.

Oh yeah. "subtle". It's so subtle, you get marked on the map for everyone to see.

 

And no, not all sale vehicles are buffed.

 

Here is Amy Vinewood's testing to prove it. The Insurgent from the sale is weaker than the purchased one.

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/889450-insurgent-pick-up-custom-discussion-thread/page-8?do=findComment&comment=1069754255

Edited August 14, 2017 by The-Irish-Hunter