GTA Online Petition: Allow players to play Finance & Felony in an

[TovarishTony]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTolgtK1jek

 

 

 

similar CEO mechanics from an old game and imagine if there are jets and its actually a warzone like Los Santos. Atleast the buy missions from that game is faster

[Ghoffman9]

 

 

Not very smart are you? It was claimed that NPC's cannot be challenging or threatening, my argument is the fact that people are resorting to using things like Armored Kuramas because of how difficult they can be. If they were not difficult people would not feel the need to retreat to their garages to get their armored Kuramas in the first place.

 

 

Go start another thread if you need to discuss the level of difficulty of the game's AI opponents. The difficulty level of anything is purely subjective and shouldn't enter into the issue of allowing people to play free from cheaters or with their friends only.

 

 

 

 

I think I figured that out lol. Like i said that doesn't sound very challenging where is the risk reward factor of doing CEo work basically uninterrupted? Where is the challenge of not having to worry about your crates blowing up? You're crazy if you think Rockstar would make the change as it pretty much removes the risk and like I said earlier doing collections in an empty lobby pretty much becomes missions without the challenge of having limited lives.

 

I understand you want to avoid cheaters on pc but the things they would have to do to bring back the risk reward factor into a solo/private session would probably put off any CEO that even suggested it. It would be a serious monkey paw situation if there was even a slight chance of it happening.

 

Why do you care? Where is the "risk" in any other game mode (and for the same or better rewards) that can be done alone or with friends? How would allowing people to do this in invite-only sessions hurt you? Why must this have a "risk reward" factor at all?

 

What every single argument against allowing this has boiled down to is either people just using this issue to brag about how great they are or being worried that they'll lose the opportunity to troll and grief less competent or competitive other players.

 

You do realize I am arguing for the same thing as you right and made my arguments in support of it? We're fighting side by side on the same side of the battlefield here so why are you going to great lengths to butt heads with me?

I will express my point again that is clearly going over your head.

People are arguing that NPCs are not challenging and the only way this update can be fun is to only throw other players into the equation, my argument is that they can be challenging and that argument is moot. Right now with the way they programmed NPC's to act in this update is to just be a minor nuisance every now and again, which can very easily be changed to act like how you expect them to act in normal missions and heists. In a normal mission such as Out of Harmony for example you can rack up to as many as 70 kills alone while in this update you are only pitted against a very small number of NPCs on occasion.

 

The NPC's right now on their own are not that challenging or very entertaining to face due to the infrequency of which they appear and the numbers of them. I am not saying to throw enough NPC's at you to populate a small village either. All I am saying is give the NPC's a little more bite and you will not need to lean on player vs player combat to make this update entertaining like Rockstar clearly thinks. Free roam already has enough PvP dedicated content as it is, its saturated with it. This DLC could have been the perfect opportunity to give activities for players to do in free roam that is PvE focused than just gang attacks and robbing convenience stores all day...

Edited June 29, 2016 by Ghoffman9

[jyssys]

you're meant to get chased after, trolled, blown up, griefed beyond belief,

 

Wow, seems I'm playing the wrong game since I don't want any of that stuff.

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

 

Guys this thread is pointless rockstar have officially responded why u can't play in private lobbies. Here is what they said Why cant we do Buy/Sell missions in a private session?Succeeding as a CEO requires navigating the risks and rewards of the ruthless Los Santos free market where everyone is out to snipe at your latest venture so Buy and Sell missions were designed specifically for trade in public sessions. Keep in mind that more players in your session means a bigger bonus for successful sale of Special Cargo, while Associates receive wage increases for completing consecutive Buy or Sell missions with the same CEO. If you're concerned other players are hanging about your Warehouse or Office pick the right time to sell, make sure you have Associates and get them to clear out players who are stalking you or waiting for you to execute a deal. Taking your team off the grid with the Ghost Organization ability and exiting via the rooftop helipad where possible are also solid strategies.For those of u who want more evidence here u go http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire . Just scroll down til u see faq and u should see why we can't do ceo missions in private sessions.

It's been posted. No one gives a sh*t. We think that's retarded.

Well hey it's a petition telling rockstar to make in private sessions so there not gonna change it no matter how hard u try. It's called a petition for a reason the goal of this petition was to make rockstar change it, but they won't change it. So tell me what the point of this petition is if rockstar aren't changing it ? Exactly it's pointless at this point. Besides what are u talking about no one gives a sh*t lots of people do so I have no idea what u just said there. Besides let me tell u why this petition is pointless ok fine rockstar won't change it how about u do a glitch so u can go into a public lobby alone ? Rockstar can't fix the glitch because it has to do with ur wifi. Problem solved go in to a public lobby alone and if any random players join vote to kick them then ur fine. See u happy now that's what I do when I'm doing Ceo missions. So what's the problem now huh ?

Edited June 29, 2016 by Thegrandtheftmaster

[trieper47]

 

Guys this thread is pointless rockstar have officially responded why u can't play in private lobbies. Here is what they said Why can’t we do Buy/Sell missions in a private session?

Succeeding as a CEO requires navigating the risks and rewards of the ruthless Los Santos free market – where everyone is out to snipe at your latest venture – so Buy and Sell missions were designed specifically for trade in public sessions. Keep in mind that more players in your session means a bigger bonus for successful sale of Special Cargo, while Associates receive wage increases for completing consecutive Buy or Sell missions with the same CEO. If you're concerned other players are hanging about your Warehouse or Office – pick the right time to sell, make sure you have Associates and get them to clear out players who are stalking you or waiting for you to execute a deal. Taking your team off the grid with the Ghost Organization ability and exiting via the rooftop helipad where possible are also solid strategies.

For those of u who want more evidence here u go http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire . Just scroll down til u see faq and u should see why we can't do ceo missions in private sessions.

 

 

I copied my response to someone posting this snippet earlier:

 

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Well Rockstar has said it so haven't they?

 

Maybe you're right - we should just accept it.

 

OK - everybody just fold up your tents and go home - shut down this thread. Fights over. We lost. The Authority has spoken!

 

 

 

You think some bullsh*t FAQ post on their censored website is gonna stop people who are really behind this from still flooding [email protected]

 

You think people wont be "privatizing" public sessions by using lag switches - pulling internet wires and vote kicking people who might be potential griefers/trolls? Pulling out all the stops necessary to have that sandbox experience they paid for.

 

Nothing stops! You got that? NOTHING!

 

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You've regurgitated what someone already posted before you which was regurgitating what Rockstar said and simply suggesting we fall into line like good little boys and girls because they said it.

 

You've said your piece against sir - now you can sod off!!!

 

Its one thing if someone a PVPer trying to make a thin and stretching argument....Its another when a Rockstar Cum Guzzler pukes up whats on their site and suggests we be good little boys and girls and not make any more noise (which we're all more than aware of BTW - before even the first person puked that snippet up).

 

Good Day Sir!

[trieper47]

 

 

similar CEO mechanics from an old game and imagine if there are jets and its actually a warzone like Los Santos. Atleast the buy missions from that game is faster

Thank you for reminding me of these!!!! I was the biggest fan of this game - still am and fire up my PS2 to play sometimes.

 

Yes - this is a prime example of how you can program difficult NPC resistance and make things challenging. If I remember correctly - during these distributions you also had to defend some fronts from attackers otherwise you would lose the profit from there.

 

Rockstar got lazy here and instead of actual programming and developing - used capture creator and made other players the "challenge".

Edited June 29, 2016 by trieper47

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

 

 

Guys this thread is pointless rockstar have officially responded why u can't play in private lobbies. Here is what they said Why cant we do Buy/Sell missions in a private session?Succeeding as a CEO requires navigating the risks and rewards of the ruthless Los Santos free market where everyone is out to snipe at your latest venture so Buy and Sell missions were designed specifically for trade in public sessions. Keep in mind that more players in your session means a bigger bonus for successful sale of Special Cargo, while Associates receive wage increases for completing consecutive Buy or Sell missions with the same CEO. If you're concerned other players are hanging about your Warehouse or Office pick the right time to sell, make sure you have Associates and get them to clear out players who are stalking you or waiting for you to execute a deal. Taking your team off the grid with the Ghost Organization ability and exiting via the rooftop helipad where possible are also solid strategies.For those of u who want more evidence here u go http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire . Just scroll down til u see faq and u should see why we can't do ceo missions in private sessions.

It's been posted. No one gives a sh*t. We think that's retarded.

Well hey it's a petition telling rockstar to make in private sessions so there not gonna change it no matter how hard u try. It's called a petition for a reason the goal of this petition was to make rockstar change it, but they won't change it. So tell me what the point of this petition is if rockstar aren't changing it ? Exactly it's pointless at this point. Besides what are u talking about no one gives a sh*t lots of people do so I have no idea what u just said there. Besides let me tell u why this petition is pointless ok fine rockstar won't change it how about u do a glitch so u can go into a public lobby alone ? Rockstar can't fix the glitch because it has to do with ur wifi. Problem solved go in to a public lobby alone and if any random players join vote to kick them then ur fine. See u happy now that's what I do when I'm doing Ceo missions. So what's the problem now huh ?

 

Ok well look what I said to fix the problem ok u happy now ?

 

 

Guys this thread is pointless rockstar have officially responded why u can't play in private lobbies. Here is what they said Why can’t we do Buy/Sell missions in a private session?

Succeeding as a CEO requires navigating the risks and rewards of the ruthless Los Santos free market – where everyone is out to snipe at your latest venture – so Buy and Sell missions were designed specifically for trade in public sessions. Keep in mind that more players in your session means a bigger bonus for successful sale of Special Cargo, while Associates receive wage increases for completing consecutive Buy or Sell missions with the same CEO. If you're concerned other players are hanging about your Warehouse or Office – pick the right time to sell, make sure you have Associates and get them to clear out players who are stalking you or waiting for you to execute a deal. Taking your team off the grid with the Ghost Organization ability and exiting via the rooftop helipad where possible are also solid strategies.

For those of u who want more evidence here u go http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire . Just scroll down til u see faq and u should see why we can't do ceo missions in private sessions.

 

 

I copied my response to someone posting this snippet earlier:

 

==============================================================================

 

Well Rockstar has said it so haven't they?

 

Maybe you're right - we should just accept it.

 

OK - everybody just fold up your tents and go home - shut down this thread. Fights over. We lost. The Authority has spoken!

 

 

 

You think some bullsh*t FAQ post on their censored website is gonna stop people who are really behind this from still flooding [email protected]

 

You think people wont be "privatizing" public sessions by using lag switches - pulling internet wires and vote kicking people who might be potential griefers/trolls? Pulling out all the stops necessary to have that sandbox experience they paid for.

 

Nothing stops! You got that? NOTHING!

 

===================================================================================

 

You've regurgitated what someone already posted before you which was regurgitating what Rockstar said and simply suggesting we fall into line like good little boys and girls because they said it.

 

You've said your piece against sir - now you can sod off!!!

 

Its one thing if someone a PVPer trying to make a thin and stretching argument....Its another when a Rockstar Cum Guzzler pukes up whats on their site and suggests we be good little boys and girls and not make any more noise (which we're all more than aware of BTW - before even the first person puked that snippet up).

 

Good Day Sir!

 

Ok well how hard is it to go in a public lobby alone then ? There are videos on youtube so it doesn't matter if we can't play ceo missions in private lobbies

Edited June 29, 2016 by Thegrandtheftmaster

[trieper47]

 

Ok well how hard is it to go in a public lobby alone then ? There are videos on youtube so it doesn't matter if we can't play ceo missions in private lobbies

 

 

Not very I will admit - and many are doing it as a workaround. So therefore no reason not to put it private!

[EkaSwede]

^^

 

There are different kinds of workarounds. Some add some rules to their firewalls (which prevents friends from joining) and some lag out and invite friends and then kick other people joining in. The kicking is a bit of a problem, but I've played games where kicking is way more rampant and unfair (PAYDAY 2 gettin g kicked at the end of a heist because the host feels for it.).

Because it's fair.

 

The issue with making freemode/public sessions pvp is that for a pvp game to be fun and enjoyable, it HAS to be balanced. GTA Online is NOT balanced. There are death matches, lts, and many adversary modes, but a lot of pvp player rather choose freemode since ther are no loading times.

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

 

 

Ok well how hard is it to go in a public lobby alone then ? There are videos on youtube so it doesn't matter if we can't play ceo missions in private lobbies

 

 

Not very I will admit - and many are doing it as a workaround. So therefore no reason not to put it private!

 

Yep thats correct, but well I don't give a sh*t if rockstar don't make it so u can do ceo missions in private sessions. All I have to do is search a video on youtube how to get into a public session alone. If anyone doesn't how to here is a video

. Ah I do this all the time and it always works well bye hydra guys.

[XJpostman]

It just bugs me that they add fun new content that could work great for solo, coop, or vs play but lock away from the solo and coop crowd (at least for me as I won't play CEO activities in a populated lobby) in what seems like an attempt to keep earnings low and mask it by saying it makes it more challenging.

I'll continue playing solo CEO activities and enjoying the game until R* comes and changes my connection settings.

[TiberiusMcQueen]

 

Guys this thread is pointless rockstar have officially responded why u can't play in private lobbies. Here is what they said Why can’t we do Buy/Sell missions in a private session?

Succeeding as a CEO requires navigating the risks and rewards of the ruthless Los Santos free market – where everyone is out to snipe at your latest venture – so Buy and Sell missions were designed specifically for trade in public sessions. Keep in mind that more players in your session means a bigger bonus for successful sale of Special Cargo, while Associates receive wage increases for completing consecutive Buy or Sell missions with the same CEO. If you're concerned other players are hanging about your Warehouse or Office – pick the right time to sell, make sure you have Associates and get them to clear out players who are stalking you or waiting for you to execute a deal. Taking your team off the grid with the Ghost Organization ability and exiting via the rooftop helipad where possible are also solid strategies.

For those of u who want more evidence here u go http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire . Just scroll down til u see faq and u should see why we can't do ceo missions in private sessions.

 

 

If we gave two sh*ts about Rockstar's reasoning behind it this thread wouldn't exist, because we knew the above information from the beginning, but as it stands, we disagree with their reasoning, and are demanding it to be changed, and until that happens we'll keep pushing for it and emailing them asking for it to be changed. Because their reasoning is bullsh*t and displays a complete lack of understanding in regards to how out of control public lobbies can be. They created a risk and reward system where the reward doesn't match the risk of public lobbies, and then required us to only play in public lobbies, for those of us who don't enjoy dealing with griefers and modders, the system is broken, and we'd appreciate the option to play alone or with our friends in a lobby without those players..

Edited June 30, 2016 by TiberiusMcQueen

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

 

Guys this thread is pointless rockstar have officially responded why u can't play in private lobbies. Here is what they said Why can’t we do Buy/Sell missions in a private session?

Succeeding as a CEO requires navigating the risks and rewards of the ruthless Los Santos free market – where everyone is out to snipe at your latest venture – so Buy and Sell missions were designed specifically for trade in public sessions. Keep in mind that more players in your session means a bigger bonus for successful sale of Special Cargo, while Associates receive wage increases for completing consecutive Buy or Sell missions with the same CEO. If you're concerned other players are hanging about your Warehouse or Office – pick the right time to sell, make sure you have Associates and get them to clear out players who are stalking you or waiting for you to execute a deal. Taking your team off the grid with the Ghost Organization ability and exiting via the rooftop helipad where possible are also solid strategies.

For those of u who want more evidence here u go http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire . Just scroll down til u see faq and u should see why we can't do ceo missions in private sessions.

If we gave two sh*ts about Rockstar's reasoning behind it this thread wouldn't exist, because we knew the above information from the beginning, but as it stands, we disagree with their reasoning, and are demanding it to be changed, and until that happens we'll keep pushing for it and emailing them asking for it to be changed. Because their reasoning is bullsh*t and displays a complete lack of understanding in regards to how out of control public lobbies can be. They created a risk and reward system where the reward doesn't match the risk of public lobbies, and then required us to only play in public lobbies, for those of us who don't enjoy dealing with griefers and modders, the system is broken, and we'd appreciate the option to play alone or with our friends in a lobby without those players..

 

Ok well did u even see what I said in my other post. I linked a video on a solution to the problem. Edited June 30, 2016 by RedDagger
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[DominusTaranis]

 

 

Guys this thread is pointless rockstar have officially responded why u can't play in private lobbies. Here is what they said Why cant we do Buy/Sell missions in a private session?

Succeeding as a CEO requires navigating the risks and rewards of the ruthless Los Santos free market where everyone is out to snipe at your latest venture so Buy and Sell missions were designed specifically for trade in public sessions. Keep in mind that more players in your session means a bigger bonus for successful sale of Special Cargo, while Associates receive wage increases for completing consecutive Buy or Sell missions with the same CEO. If you're concerned other players are hanging about your Warehouse or Office pick the right time to sell, make sure you have Associates and get them to clear out players who are stalking you or waiting for you to execute a deal. Taking your team off the grid with the Ghost Organization ability and exiting via the rooftop helipad where possible are also solid strategies.

For those of u who want more evidence here u go http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire . Just scroll down til u see faq and u should see why we can't do ceo missions in private sessions.

It's been posted. No one gives a sh*t. We think that's retarded.

 

Denial , the first stage of grief. I'm denying that R* said it? Silly me, I just thought those with similar thinking to mine, that freemode pvp is broken garbage and the lack of pve content is saddening, didn't care WHAT R* wantd and we'll continue to session hop or lag out to get our way.

 

Gosh. Thanks for enlightening me.

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

 

 

 

Guys this thread is pointless rockstar have officially responded why u can't play in private lobbies. Here is what they said Why cant we do Buy/Sell missions in a private session?

Succeeding as a CEO requires navigating the risks and rewards of the ruthless Los Santos free market where everyone is out to snipe at your latest venture so Buy and Sell missions were designed specifically for trade in public sessions. Keep in mind that more players in your session means a bigger bonus for successful sale of Special Cargo, while Associates receive wage increases for completing consecutive Buy or Sell missions with the same CEO. If you're concerned other players are hanging about your Warehouse or Office pick the right time to sell, make sure you have Associates and get them to clear out players who are stalking you or waiting for you to execute a deal. Taking your team off the grid with the Ghost Organization ability and exiting via the rooftop helipad where possible are also solid strategies.

For those of u who want more evidence here u go http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire . Just scroll down til u see faq and u should see why we can't do ceo missions in private sessions.

It's been posted. No one gives a sh*t. We think that's retarded.

 

Denial , the first stage of grief.

 

I'm denying that R* said it? Silly me, I just thought those with similar thinking to mine, that freemode pvp is broken garbage and the lack of pve content is saddening, didn't care WHAT R* wantd and we'll continue to session hop or lag out to get our way.

 

Gosh. Thanks for enlightening me.

 

Bro its pointless that u said that didn't I say in another post that there is a way around. Look learn how to read my post I already said a solution. Also didn't I give u a link to read it ? Exactly I did think before u post. I never said i gave a sh*t about guys going into public lobbies alone. Where did u come up with "I care that people are going into public lobbies alone ? Look honestly I can tell u don't think before u post if u did think u would've read my post where I linked a video on how to get into public lobbies alone. So stop coming up these f*cking retarded ways to try to get a liked comment. Its not gonna work look at what I said in this comment. U f*cking idiot think before u post. See I even showed a video on how to do it. Stop trying to make me look stupid ur making urself look stupid because u didn't think before u post. Edited June 30, 2016 by RedDagger
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[DominusTaranis]

U f*ckin wut m8? Do u no wat punctuation is? I have to f*cking decode that massive f*ckin wall.

 

WHEN DID I say that YOU gave a f*ck? When did I even mention YOU? I said WE, meaning those of us doing it solo anyway, couldn't give a f*ck what R* wants us to do.

 

Try and keep up.

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

U f*ckin wut m8? Do u no wat punctuation is? I have to f*cking decode that massive f*ckin wall.

 

WHEN DID I say that YOU gave a f*ck? When did I even mention YOU? I said WE, meaning those of us doing it solo anyway, couldn't give a f*ck what R* wants us to do.

 

Try and keep up.

Huh so why did u exactly quote my post then ? And hey if ur gonna make an insult what about ur spelling ? And no I don't mean internet slang, I mean there are words in there that are spelled wrong.

Edited June 30, 2016 by Thegrandtheftmaster

[DominusTaranis]

 

(Mocking begins)U f*ckin wut m8? Do u no wat punctuation is? (Mocking stops) I have to f*cking decode that massive f*ckin wall.

 

WHEN DID I say that YOU gave a f*ck? When did I even mention YOU? I said WE, meaning those of us doing it solo anyway, couldn't give a f*ck what R* wants us to do.

 

Try and keep up.

Huh so why did u exactly quote my post then ? And hey if ur gonna make an insult what about ur spelling ? And no I don't mean internet slang, I mean there are words in there that are spelled wrong.I quoted you to tell you that those of us that think the decisions made governing GTA: Online are viewed as dumb by those that think like me. Expressed a bit simply, mind you, but there you go.

 

And, now, I'm genuinely curious. Please point out to me where I mispelled anything in my post. I do have a habit of missing errors, but when I'm berating someone for their atrocious butchering of grammar and spelling, I tend to double check. And having triple and quadruple checked, I can't find anything. Of course, do disregard the part where I'm mocking you, as that was done on purpose to, well, mock you.

 

To the below:

I am editing this post to better clarify. Notice the parenthesis in the quote now? I purposely wrote "know" as "no". In fact, I even had to delete the k because I typed most of it on instinct before reminding myself I was being an ass.

 

And, as I'm not a hypocrite, and can be evidenced by the below quote, I did miss the error in "purpose".

Edited June 30, 2016 by DominusTaranis

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

 

 

U f*ckin wut m8? Do u no wat punctuation is? I have to f*cking decode that massive f*ckin wall.

 

WHEN DID I say that YOU gave a f*ck? When did I even mention YOU? I said WE, meaning those of us doing it solo anyway, couldn't give a f*ck what R* wants us to do.

 

Try and keep up.

Huh so why did u exactly quote my post then ? And hey if ur gonna make an insult what about ur spelling ? And no I don't mean internet slang, I mean there are words in there that are spelled wrong.

I quoted you to tell you that those of us that think the decisions made governing GTA: Online are viewed as dumb by those that think like me. Expressed a bit simply, mind you, but there you go.

 

And, now, I'm genuinely curious. Please point out to me where I mispelled anything in my post. I do have a habit of missing errors, but when I'm berating someone for their atrocious butchering of grammar and spelling, I tend to double check. And having triple and quadruple checked, I can't find anything. Of course, do disregard the part where I'm mocking you, as that was done on purpise to, well, mock you.

 

Ok I was exaggerating a little bit, but "no" should be "know"

[TovarishTony]

 

 

 

similar CEO mechanics from an old game and imagine if there are jets and its actually a warzone like Los Santos. Atleast the buy missions from that game is faster

Thank you for reminding me of these!!!! I was the biggest fan of this game - still am and fire up my PS2 to play sometimes.

 

Yes - this is a prime example of how you can program difficult NPC resistance and make things challenging. If I remember correctly - during these distributions you also had to defend some fronts from attackers otherwise you would lose the profit from there.

 

Rockstar got lazy here and instead of actual programming and developing - used capture creator and made other players the "challenge".

 

I still remember how difficult it was on the islands to move on a boat with the product too much and that is a buy mission from that game where it can be as far as I remember 25kg or 50kg of product but other gangs chase you while you get the purchased product and your assistants on that game give reliable suppliers atleast its not limited to the 3 crate max crap like in GTA. The AI on that game is challenging but they are not bullet sponges like in GTA where even gangsters are bullet sponges. Also on the same game during the distribution missions you can actually choose your personal vehicles where you need a fast car in case attackers attack your fronts. Wow this game 10 years old yet had some superior mechanics regarding selling contraband. I wonder what will Tony Montana think when he sees Los Santos where business is like in a war zone.

Edited June 30, 2016 by TovarishTony

[aaronBLUEeyes]

Give it up people, Rockstar designed them for public lobbies for the reasons they stated in the Newswire.

 

Just play smart and try to minimize your losses. I've made ~$10M so far and close to my break even point!

 

And the high demand bonuses help net you hundreds of thousands more!

[Hunter]

Give it up people, Rockstar designed them for public lobbies for the reasons they stated in the Newswire.

 

Just play smart and try to minimize your losses. I've made ~$10M so far and close to my break even point!

 

And the high demand bonuses help net you hundreds of thousands more!

I've made $12M playing in empty sessions. Cr*ppy internet/4k HD videos/lag switches FTW!

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

Give it up people, Rockstar designed them for public lobbies for the reasons they stated in the Newswire.

 

Just play smart and try to minimize your losses. I've made ~$10M so far and close to my break even point!

 

And the high demand bonuses help net you hundreds of thousands more!

I don't give a sh*t about what rockstar said. I can go into public lobbies alone and do ceo missions in there if I want thats rockstar's problem not my problem.

[trieper47]

Dominus...Grandtheftmaster...all that pointless bickering is not necessary - we're all arguing from the same side of the table Im realizing.

 

I'll admit I misinterpreted Masters initial posts - thinking he was a Rockstar Fanboy espousing "just do what they say" when in reality he was basically saying we might get nothing changed with all this effort and to just concentrate on our guerilla tactics to privatize public sessions and get the gaming experience we want!

 

We can do that Master and just go dark - but the reason at least I'm here is that this whole thing represents a paradigm shift in Rockstar away from providing an open sandbox for people to play as they see fit (provided they are not cheating and out to ruin others experience). That's the harder approach - but Rockstar - up until The Benz left - was doing their best to provide gameplay that satisfied everybody.

 

My fear is that they'll get lazy since PVP doesn't require as much effort and also start restricting choices.

 

I don't want to login one day and see that Public Lobbies are my only option when coming online!

 

Thats why Im still here fighting the good fight - to make clear that as a consumer who paid for an open sandbox that anything that significantly limits how I can play in my current play style will not be acceptable.

[Thegrandtheftmaster]

Dominus...Grandtheftmaster...all that pointless bickering is not necessary - we're all arguing from the same side of the table Im realizing.

 

I'll admit I misinterpreted Masters initial posts - thinking he was a Rockstar Fanboy espousing "just do what they say" when in reality he was basically saying we might get nothing changed with all this effort and to just concentrate on our guerilla tactics to privatize public sessions and get the gaming experience we want!

 

We can do that Master and just go dark - but the reason at least I'm here is that this whole thing represents a paradigm shift in Rockstar away from providing an open sandbox for people to play as they see fit (provided they are not cheating and out to ruin others experience). That's the harder approach - but Rockstar - up until The Benz left - was doing their best to provide gameplay that satisfied everybody.

 

My fear is that they'll get lazy since PVP doesn't require as much effort and also start restricting choices.

 

I don't want to login one day and see that Public Lobbies are my only option when coming online!

 

Thats why Im still here fighting the good fight - to make clear that as a consumer who paid for an open sandbox that anything that significantly limits how I can play in my current play style will not be acceptable.

As I stated before I already linked a video to try to get in public lobbies alone. I don't give a sh*t what rockstar says I can go into public lobbies alone and do ceo missions there if I want too

[trieper47]

Give it up people, Rockstar designed them for public lobbies for the reasons they stated in the Newswire.

 

Just play smart and try to minimize your losses. I've made ~$10M so far and close to my break even point!

 

And the high demand bonuses help net you hundreds of thousands more!

 

Ah - you're here too and on the Newswire. Just remember - as I'm sure you already know...the Newswire is like a corporate office - where people have to play nice and be diplomatic and anything critical of Rockstar usually gets deleted (surprised a few of mine haven't been nixed yet - guess there are a lot more they can handly). Here and anywhere else are like the streets - where pretty much anything goes and people can speak freely without fear of douche-bag censors who only want a wall full of Rockstar Dick Riders and Cum Guzzlers.

 

And in case it hasn't occurred to you...most in this thread give absolutely ZERO f*ckS about Rockstars reasoning. Its wrong - plain and simple! It restricts choice in what is supposed to be a sandbox game and forces us to risk our hard work against potential modders and hackers and cheaters which Rockstar have failed miserably to excise from them. If there is a bonus to doing in populated public lobbies - then there is no reason why we cant do it in private for base pay and decide if we want to go public to go for the bonus. Incentivizing the way they want us to play is a lot better than forcing us!

 

You've made your point which you are free to do. Just like we are free to keep applying pressure and making ourselves heard - regardless of the result! We have solutions in place to play this as we choose anyway - but there's a grey element involved. Rockstar can stop all that by giving us the option back and continue incentivizing the way they prefer us to play. That's called choice!

 

As I stated before I already linked a video to try to get in public lobbies alone. I don't give a sh*t what rockstar says I can go into public lobbies alone and do ceo missions there if I want too

 

 

Me neither my friend - me neither - and thats what I do too

 

No need to get snippy - I think we're on the same side now in this one.

 

Cheers mate!

[Fox2Quick]

we're a few weeks in now. Still have yet to come across any major issues. Still at 100% success rate. My strategy? Not doing crate work in lobbies where sh*t is going down. Oh, there's a war in this lobby? Cool, I'll be smart and wait till it dies down and do something different till then, or find a new session.

 

I still think that bringing these activities to private sessions is unnecessary. There needs to be some challenge to this work and to me that challenge is figuring out the proper time and place to go for it. Anything else defeats the purpose.

[trieper47]

we're a few weeks in now. Still have yet to come across any major issues. Still at 100% success rate. My strategy? Not doing crate work in lobbies where sh*t is going down. Oh, there's a war in this lobby? Cool, I'll be smart and wait till it dies down and do something different till then, or find a new session.

 

I still think that bringing these activities to private sessions is unnecessary. There needs to be some challenge to this work and to me that challenge is figuring out the proper time and place to go for it. Anything else defeats the purpose.

 

Wait till a cheater gets into the fray - using the 2x health glitch or god mode or the d-bag using the creator mode glitch to make your cargo inaccessible and then fails you the mission and costs you everything - then we'll talk. We know trolls and griefers using cheats are rampant in this game and it takes weeks for Rockstars sh*tty support to resolve any issues. That's one of the main reasons we want private but also because we don't want to be involved in any PVP pointless wars either.

 

Ive said it till blue in the face - it restricts choice and was the lazy cop-out approach. Even lazier is the fact that cheaters run rampant!

[Fox2Quick]

 

we're a few weeks in now. Still have yet to come across any major issues. Still at 100% success rate. My strategy? Not doing crate work in lobbies where sh*t is going down. Oh, there's a war in this lobby? Cool, I'll be smart and wait till it dies down and do something different till then, or find a new session.

 

I still think that bringing these activities to private sessions is unnecessary. There needs to be some challenge to this work and to me that challenge is figuring out the proper time and place to go for it. Anything else defeats the purpose.

Wait till a cheater gets into the fray - using the 2x health glitch or god mode or the d-bag using the creator mode glitch to make your cargo inaccessible and then fails you the mission and costs you everything - then we'll talk. We know trolls and griefers using cheats are rampant in this game and it takes weeks for Rockstars sh*tty support to resolve any issues. That's one of the main reasons we want private but also because we don't want to be involved in any PVP pointless wars either.

 

Ive said it till blue in the face - it restricts choice and was the lazy cop-out approach. Even lazier is the fact that cheaters run rampant!

Those cheaters aren't smart enough to keep from giving themselves away before initiating a crate run. Again, this feature is a time and place thing. Treat them like mini heists. Scope out the lobby for red flags before just blindly running off for crates.

[fear_the_nut70]

 

you're meant to get chased after, trolled, blown up, griefed beyond belief,

 

Wow, seems I'm playing the wrong game since I don't want any of that stuff.

 

 

Whether this was meant to occur and whether you want it could be mutually exclusive. THe real question is, if that is the way it is supposed to be played and you don't like it, is this game for you?

 

Give it up people, Rockstar designed them for public lobbies for the reasons they stated in the Newswire.

 

Just play smart and try to minimize your losses. I've made ~$10M so far and close to my break even point!

 

And the high demand bonuses help net you hundreds of thousands more!

I don't give a sh*t about what rockstar said. I can go into public lobbies alone and do ceo missions in there if I want thats rockstar's problem not my problem.

 

 

I agree with both of you, which begs the question, do we really need five different threads discussing this? Is it even really a problem? Why just keep complaining?