jets ruin all this new vip stuff

[Kyrrari]

Isn't a jet meant to be quite powerful in terms of speed and destructive power? 'Cos it's a jet.

If the jet speed was accurate it would be soooooo less op. Right now it does like 150mph idle speed [no throttle] and like 180-200 full throttle. Knock that up to mach 2 where it should be and all the "pilots" would be bitching because they're in the air for 10 seconds and ran into a building or mountain. Even if you try that op dive bomb at mach 1 you wouldn't have time to pull up, it'd be a kamikaze run.

 

And pilots, please stop ignoring the fact you can aim straight down at us, but we literally cannot aim up high enough to hit or even start a lock on with the homing launcher. Our upward range is limited to like 75 degrees instead of the full 90.

[_PANiC_]

 

 

So, after playing throughout the weekend, I STILL have yet to come across a jet greifer. I've seen 2 or 3 jets, but they were all escorting their respective organizations.

 

Sure, sometimes you might find the random douche that will troll the hell out of you, but I personally think that at this point, the people constantly complaining about it might be doing something to antagonize the pilots and don't realize/won't admit it.

Same, came across maybe one all weekend. Myself and crew dealt with them using the many ways to counter such players, the jet got bored and left. We continued with crate deliveries, VIP work and attacking other organisations shipments while defending our own.

 

 

 

i guess u go on solo ceo's with your friends. picking them with jets and feeling good... I am so sorry if i am wrong, but thats the impression you give us. defending jets as if they are balanced, wtf!

 

How can i go solo, with friends!!.

I dont use a Jet, dont even own one on my CEO character, so your assumption that I am a Jet griefer is wrong.

I do however attack other organisations shipments in all sorts of ways, mostly with a simple buzzard, and people attack mine. Its how CEO work is supposed to be played.

[We Are Ninja]

...Ok i wont post a montage. I will however post this vid of me being shot down by a grenade launcher. Also please dont assume that most of what i say i pull out of my a**. most of what i say for counters to jets are from my own personal experience I am sorry that you don't use the tools provided to their fullest potential

 

Now, if you'd kindly post the total number of times that you've been taken out by a player with a grenade launcher, and the total number of player kills that you've gotten with your fancy jet so that we can compare the two figures...

[_PANiC_]

 

Isn't a jet meant to be quite powerful in terms of speed and destructive power? 'Cos it's a jet.

I fail to see how that's relevant to anything I posted above.

 

If that's just a general statement (and not directed towards me), well then surely jets should have their real life weaknesses too, right? 'Cos it's a jet.

 

A real jet goes way too fast for precise aiming with cannons:

 

 

 

(700mph; as opposed to the 140-150mph they do in GTA V).

 

They also have a much larger turning radius, a fuel limit, and ammo limit.

I dont know about the "git gud" side. My argument is simple, there are effective and various counters to Jets.

So you say, but then I haven't seen any that would work against me in the videos I posted.

 

Against a lesser pilot? Maybe every now and then.

 

. Jet is overpowered vehicle? Jet with good pilot is overpowered?. Different question.

Ill let "pilots" measure each others dicks all they want, no interest to me, I will deal with them with what the game supply's and carry on my merry way ...

Edited June 13, 2016 by PANiC ATTACK3R

[SkylineGTRFreak]

This or that is not effective against good pilots, blablabla

 

 

 

Once again. How often do you encounter a "good" pilot? My god, I am slowly starting to think I am playing a different game here.

Most average joes will slam into the ground when trying to evade. Or they will just attack with missiles.

 

Face it, you're blowing this way out of proportion. Yes, I like jets. Yes, in the right hands they can be OP.

 

But damn, all These salty threads make me uber-salty.

I would like to have a record of everyone here how often you have been killed by a Jet during delivery.

[Hunter]

. Jet is overpowered vehicle? Jet with good pilot is overpowered?. Different question.

 

 

 

 

Ill let "pilots" measure each others dicks all they want, no interest to me, I will deal with them with what the game supply's and carry on my merry way ...

 

I wouldn't say that a jet is overpowered with a good pilot. I'd say that it's overpowered with anything more than a pretty bad pilot.

 

Which it shouldn't be, in my opinion.

 

I assure you, I'm not measuring my penis.

[Jerionso]

 

 

 

So, after playing throughout the weekend, I STILL have yet to come across a jet greifer. I've seen 2 or 3 jets, but they were all escorting their respective organizations.

 

Sure, sometimes you might find the random douche that will troll the hell out of you, but I personally think that at this point, the people constantly complaining about it might be doing something to antagonize the pilots and don't realize/won't admit it.

Same, came across maybe one all weekend. Myself and crew dealt with them using the many ways to counter such players, the jet got bored and left. We continued with crate deliveries, VIP work and attacking other organisations shipments while defending our own.

 

 

 

i guess u go on solo ceo's with your friends. picking them with jets and feeling good... I am so sorry if i am wrong, but thats the impression you give us. defending jets as if they are balanced, wtf!

 

How can i go solo, with friends!!.

I dont use a Jet, dont even own one on my CEO character, so your assumption that I am a Jet griefer is wrong.

I do however attack other organisations shipments in all sorts of ways, mostly with a simple buzzard, and people attack mine. Its how CEO work is supposed to be played.

 

Its still called being a dick.

[MechanicMammal]

I do not think the Hydra should be nerfed.

A Jet is a weapon like any other weapon in the game and if you have weapons you are going to have arms races,Yes the hydra is a powerful weapon, but if your organization is having issues with jets then the wouldn't logical thing to do would be call a jet in yourself? Fight fire with fire.

That being said it would not hurt to put a preventative ground vehicle/weapon into the game to balance it out maybe with a EMP which shuts things down in a radius that also would have to be balanced in its range of use and a cool down or a anti aircraft gun which can look directly up.

 

It is not impossible to take a jet down from the ground the trick is to know and use your surroundings to your advantage I took three down last night,

one I sniped from one of the higher floors of a multi story car park because I had a roof he only had one direction he could attack from, he was forced to hover which gave me the advantage with a well timed head shot.

 

The second I forced into crashing, he was chasing me down, I was in a Kuruma, simply expand the mini map and watch out for signs of what he is going to do, you can identify the attack runs and with practice you can change the direction you are going at the last moment (there is a game mode that you can practice this), after you learn this it is a waiting game after X amount of dives he will make a mistake and crash so lead him into areas it is more likely. Again use your surrounding's to your advantage.

 

The third was with a RPG defending one of my crates It was the plane crash pickup with 2 crates I had picked one up and was traveling back to the warehouse, before I went that far I checked the main map and saw that a jet was coming towards me and the 2nd crate, he was about 30 seconds away so I made it look like I was still going away from the site phoned lester to remove my Blip and returned to the mountainside overseeing the crash site, I used the second crate as bait basically I turned the tables on him I new he would assume I had run back to the warehouse for safety and would think he had easy pickings of the crate I had left so used this to my advantage. Took him down with a RPG then spawn killed him in my kuruma a few times till he left the session. (After that I had to pick my own hydra to complete the mission because the timer was ticking)

To avoid and counter jet grief learn your surroundings and keep your eyes peeled at all times and keep the mini map expanded. Most areas have shelter or landscape you can use to your advantage but if you are exposed say near sandy shores for example phone Lester he is cheap. and you will find a spot in that time to get the upper hand.

If none of those counters work work for you swap sessions till you find a friendly lobby, they definitely exist.

[Hunter]

How often do you encounter a "good" pilot? My god, I am slowly starting to think I am playing a different game here.

That's not the point.

 

I don't encounter people using god mode that much either; yet that has no relevance to how fair it is.

 

The "salty" argument doesn't really work on me either - I can fly everything. Which is why I always have these videos and gifs to back me up.

Edited June 13, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[_PANiC_]

 

 

 

 

So, after playing throughout the weekend, I STILL have yet to come across a jet greifer. I've seen 2 or 3 jets, but they were all escorting their respective organizations.

 

Sure, sometimes you might find the random douche that will troll the hell out of you, but I personally think that at this point, the people constantly complaining about it might be doing something to antagonize the pilots and don't realize/won't admit it.

Same, came across maybe one all weekend. Myself and crew dealt with them using the many ways to counter such players, the jet got bored and left. We continued with crate deliveries, VIP work and attacking other organisations shipments while defending our own.

 

 

 

i guess u go on solo ceo's with your friends. picking them with jets and feeling good... I am so sorry if i am wrong, but thats the impression you give us. defending jets as if they are balanced, wtf!

 

How can i go solo, with friends!!.

I dont use a Jet, dont even own one on my CEO character, so your assumption that I am a Jet griefer is wrong.

I do however attack other organisations shipments in all sorts of ways, mostly with a simple buzzard, and people attack mine. Its how CEO work is supposed to be played.

 

Its still called being a dick.

 

Its called playing GTAO as its designed, and its designed for people to be criminals and be dicks, both single player and online. Hence why Rockstar put it in public lobbies only, it gives you a heads up that another organisation is making a shipment and instructs you to destroy it! ,then shows you it on radar! and rewards you for detroying it!. If you chose to CEO work then you are choosing to play the game. Cry about it all you want and call people dicks who play the game properly all you like, doesn't change this fact.

Edited June 13, 2016 by PANiC ATTACK3R

[Hunter]

Also, @PANiC ATTACK3R:

 

I just want to say that I'm not trying to belittle how you are at the game (since you said you can't fly jets).

 

They're something you can either do or not do. They're just one of those things.

 

But I honestly think jets reward those who can use them way too quickly, and with too little effort.

[Fox2Quick]

A huge part of the argument is subjective as well. We've already established that "bad" pilots aren't an issue. It's only "good" ones that make jets seem OP. But at the same time, that might not be a "good" pilot, just a "bad" ground player. There isn't ever really a way of knowing. Everyone has moments where they totally dominate someone and vice versa.

 

I don't think this thread can or will establish anything other than the fact that people are gonna dick measure skill and go out of their way to be a rude little snot to those with opposing opinions (on GTAF?!? No way!!!!!/s).

 

Obviously jets can't be THAT huge of a problem if so many people don't have issues. Jets can be taken down with strategy and/or out of the box thinking. There is no end all be all solution to all "issues" (quoted because subjecting). If jets were easier to take down, there would be no point in getting one and it wouldn't be a rewarding experience to take one down. Everyone isn't going to see eye to eye and no end ruling is going to be established. This argument should just be allowed to die.

Edited June 13, 2016 by Fox2Quick

[SkylineGTRFreak]

 

How often do you encounter a "good" pilot? My god, I am slowly starting to think I am playing a different game here.

That's not the point.

 

I don't encounter people using god mode that much either; yet that has no relevance to how fair it is.

 

The "salty" argument doesn't really work on me either - I can fly everything. Which is why I always have these videos and gifs to back me up.

But that is exactly the point of this thread.

"Jets ruin all this new VIP stuff."

 

No they don't, simply because you rarely encounter a good jet shutting your work down. This thread here features pure exaggeration.

[_PANiC_]

Also, @PANiC ATTACK3R:

 

I just want to say that I'm not trying to belittle how you are at the game (since you said you can't fly jets).

 

They're something you can either do or not do. They're just one of those things.

 

But I honestly think jets reward those who can use them way too quickly, and with too little effort.

The game reward anyone who can use a weapon or item well just the same?.

[Jerionso]

 

 

 

 

 

So, after playing throughout the weekend, I STILL have yet to come across a jet greifer. I've seen 2 or 3 jets, but they were all escorting their respective organizations.

 

Sure, sometimes you might find the random douche that will troll the hell out of you, but I personally think that at this point, the people constantly complaining about it might be doing something to antagonize the pilots and don't realize/won't admit it.

Same, came across maybe one all weekend. Myself and crew dealt with them using the many ways to counter such players, the jet got bored and left. We continued with crate deliveries, VIP work and attacking other organisations shipments while defending our own.

 

 

 

i guess u go on solo ceo's with your friends. picking them with jets and feeling good... I am so sorry if i am wrong, but thats the impression you give us. defending jets as if they are balanced, wtf!

 

How can i go solo, with friends!!.

I dont use a Jet, dont even own one on my CEO character, so your assumption that I am a Jet griefer is wrong.

I do however attack other organisations shipments in all sorts of ways, mostly with a simple buzzard, and people attack mine. Its how CEO work is supposed to be played.

 

Its still called being a dick.

 

Its called playing GTAO as its designed, and its designed for people to be criminals and be dicks, both single player and online. Hence why Rockstar put it in public lobbies only, it gives you a heads up that another organisation is making a shipment and instructs you to destroy it! ,then shows you it on radar! and rewards you for detroying it!. If you chose to CEO work then you are choosing to play the game. Cry about it all you want and call people dicks who play the game properly all you like, doesn't change this fact.

 

You get barely anything from blowing it up which is why I do solo public with friends. So don't cry when you get spawn camped or kicked.

Edited June 13, 2016 by Jerionso

[Hunter]

But that is exactly the point of this thread.

"Jets ruin all this new VIP stuff."

 

No they don't, simply because you rarely encounter a good jet shutting your work down. This thread here features pure exaggeration.

 

If you do, however, that jet will ruin your VIP stuff. That's a problem, since there's not really anything you can do about it.

 

Sure the numbers are exaggerated, but the main point still stands.

 

 

A huge part of the argument is subjective as well. We've already established that "bad" pilots aren't an issue. It's only "good" ones that make jets seem OP. But at the same time, that might not be a "good" pilot, just a "bad" ground player. There isn't ever really a way of knowing.

 

I wouldn't say it's a case of "good" pilots making jets seem overpowered. It's a case of "anyone just about competent" making jets seem overpowered.

 

Which to me really just says ... They probably are overpowered, lol.

 

I have a huge amount of time played on this game, from both sides of the equation. I'd like to think that somewhat qualifies me to weigh in on the topic.

 

The only thing I'd agree with you on is that no one's convincing anyone of anything here.

Edited June 13, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[hyperar]

Isn't a jet meant to be quite powerful in terms of speed and destructive power? 'Cos it's a jet.

Flawed logic is flawed.

 

Jets are military vehicles that can't be purchased by civilians, on websites, by incredible small amounts of money, 'Cos it's a jet.

[_PANiC_]

Also, @PANiC ATTACK3R:

 

I just want to say that I'm not trying to belittle how you are at the game (since you said you can't fly jets).

 

They're something you can either do or not do. They're just one of those things.

 

But I honestly think jets reward those who can use them way too quickly, and with too little effort.

p.s. In my crew, I am used to be being belittled for my Jet piloting skills....and racing...

its all good *hold backs a tear*

[am30]

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, after playing throughout the weekend, I STILL have yet to come across a jet greifer. I've seen 2 or 3 jets, but they were all escorting their respective organizations.

 

Sure, sometimes you might find the random douche that will troll the hell out of you, but I personally think that at this point, the people constantly complaining about it might be doing something to antagonize the pilots and don't realize/won't admit it.

Same, came across maybe one all weekend. Myself and crew dealt with them using the many ways to counter such players, the jet got bored and left. We continued with crate deliveries, VIP work and attacking other organisations shipments while defending our own.

 

 

 

i guess u go on solo ceo's with your friends. picking them with jets and feeling good... I am so sorry if i am wrong, but thats the impression you give us. defending jets as if they are balanced, wtf!

 

How can i go solo, with friends!!.

I dont use a Jet, dont even own one on my CEO character, so your assumption that I am a Jet griefer is wrong.

I do however attack other organisations shipments in all sorts of ways, mostly with a simple buzzard, and people attack mine. Its how CEO work is supposed to be played.

 

Its still called being a dick.

 

Its called playing GTAO as its designed, and its designed for people to be criminals and be dicks, both single player and online. Hence why Rockstar put it in public lobbies only, it gives you a heads up that another organisation is making a shipment and instructs you to destroy it! ,then shows you it on radar! and rewards you for detroying it!. If you chose to CEO work then you are choosing to play the game. Cry about it all you want and call people dicks who play the game properly all you like, doesn't change this fact.

 

You get barley anything from blowing it up which is why I do solo public with friends. So don't cry when you get spawn camped or kicked.

 

 

No it's called playing the game how it has been designed.

 

If you're not meant to attack shipment, why is the whole session alerted to the shipment?

 

The only ones doing the crying are the ones that want all the challenge removed.

[Jerionso]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, after playing throughout the weekend, I STILL have yet to come across a jet greifer. I've seen 2 or 3 jets, but they were all escorting their respective organizations.

 

Sure, sometimes you might find the random douche that will troll the hell out of you, but I personally think that at this point, the people constantly complaining about it might be doing something to antagonize the pilots and don't realize/won't admit it.

Same, came across maybe one all weekend. Myself and crew dealt with them using the many ways to counter such players, the jet got bored and left. We continued with crate deliveries, VIP work and attacking other organisations shipments while defending our own.

 

 

 

i guess u go on solo ceo's with your friends. picking them with jets and feeling good... I am so sorry if i am wrong, but thats the impression you give us. defending jets as if they are balanced, wtf!

 

How can i go solo, with friends!!.

I dont use a Jet, dont even own one on my CEO character, so your assumption that I am a Jet griefer is wrong.

I do however attack other organisations shipments in all sorts of ways, mostly with a simple buzzard, and people attack mine. Its how CEO work is supposed to be played.

 

Its still called being a dick.

 

Its called playing GTAO as its designed, and its designed for people to be criminals and be dicks, both single player and online. Hence why Rockstar put it in public lobbies only, it gives you a heads up that another organisation is making a shipment and instructs you to destroy it! ,then shows you it on radar! and rewards you for detroying it!. If you chose to CEO work then you are choosing to play the game. Cry about it all you want and call people dicks who play the game properly all you like, doesn't change this fact.

 

You get barley anything from blowing it up which is why I do solo public with friends. So don't cry when you get spawn camped or kicked.

 

 

No it's called playing the game how it has been designed.

 

If you're not meant to attack shipment, why is the whole session alerted to the shipment?

 

The only ones doing the crying are the ones that want all the challenge removed.

 

I still have to deal with NPC's and we have a whole topic dedicated to crying gerifers don't lie.

[_PANiC_]

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, after playing throughout the weekend, I STILL have yet to come across a jet greifer. I've seen 2 or 3 jets, but they were all escorting their respective organizations.

 

Sure, sometimes you might find the random douche that will troll the hell out of you, but I personally think that at this point, the people constantly complaining about it might be doing something to antagonize the pilots and don't realize/won't admit it.

Same, came across maybe one all weekend. Myself and crew dealt with them using the many ways to counter such players, the jet got bored and left. We continued with crate deliveries, VIP work and attacking other organisations shipments while defending our own.

 

 

 

i guess u go on solo ceo's with your friends. picking them with jets and feeling good... I am so sorry if i am wrong, but thats the impression you give us. defending jets as if they are balanced, wtf!

 

How can i go solo, with friends!!.

I dont use a Jet, dont even own one on my CEO character, so your assumption that I am a Jet griefer is wrong.

I do however attack other organisations shipments in all sorts of ways, mostly with a simple buzzard, and people attack mine. Its how CEO work is supposed to be played.

 

Its still called being a dick.

 

Its called playing GTAO as its designed, and its designed for people to be criminals and be dicks, both single player and online. Hence why Rockstar put it in public lobbies only, it gives you a heads up that another organisation is making a shipment and instructs you to destroy it! ,then shows you it on radar! and rewards you for detroying it!. If you chose to CEO work then you are choosing to play the game. Cry about it all you want and call people dicks who play the game properly all you like, doesn't change this fact.

 

You get barley anything from blowing it up which is why I do solo public with friends. So don't cry when you get spawn camped or kicked.

 

I get what? Barley?, i didn't know you could get that! is it a special shipment item?.

 

I wish you well in your solo session..with friends (not solo then). I am sure they are a riot of fun times.

 

No tears here.

 

#myfavouritecolour

Edited June 13, 2016 by PANiC ATTACK3R

[Hunter]

p.s. In my crew, I am used to be being belittled for my Jet piloting skills....and racing...

 

 

its all good *hold backs a tear*

 

Your crew shouldn't do that lol. It really is just something that either clicks with you or doesn't.

 

Helicopters are far more vulnerable anyway.

 

Off topic, but these quote trains are pretty horrible lol.

[Nutduster]

 

 

How often do you encounter a "good" pilot? My god, I am slowly starting to think I am playing a different game here.

That's not the point.

 

I don't encounter people using god mode that much either; yet that has no relevance to how fair it is.

 

The "salty" argument doesn't really work on me either - I can fly everything. Which is why I always have these videos and gifs to back me up.

But that is exactly the point of this thread.

"Jets ruin all this new VIP stuff."

 

No they don't, simply because you rarely encounter a good jet shutting your work down. This thread here features pure exaggeration.

 

 

The thread title's accuracy has little bearing on the discussion that has taken up 25 pages below it. Yes, jets don't "ruin" CEO work because not every lobby has jets. But it's fair to say that in a lobby where people are in jets trying to kill everyone (which is far from a rare occurrence in my extensive experience), you may as well not even try to do CEO work. I'm sure most of the self-styled fighter pilots have no problem with that. But the rest of us do. It doesn't seem like fair or good game design that anyone who owns a Hydra and is halfway decent at flying it (and that includes me on both counts) has the option to, at any time, ruin CEO activities for everyone else in the session on a whim. I basically possess a "you are f*cked and kiss your money goodbye" cheat code. That's a problem no matter how often it comes up.

[_PANiC_]

 

Isn't a jet meant to be quite powerful in terms of speed and destructive power? 'Cos it's a jet.

If the jet speed was accurate it would be soooooo less op. Right now it does like 150mph idle speed [no throttle] and like 180-200 full throttle. Knock that up to mach 2 where it should be and all the "pilots" would be bitching because they're in the air for 10 seconds and ran into a building or mountain. Even if you try that op dive bomb at mach 1 you wouldn't have time to pull up, it'd be a kamikaze run.

 

And pilots, please stop ignoring the fact you can aim straight down at us, but we literally cannot aim up high enough to hit or even start a lock on with the homing launcher. Our upward range is limited to like 75 degrees instead of the full 90.

 

I run into a building or mountain, or the ground within 5 seconds anyway.

[Jerionso]

 

 

Isn't a jet meant to be quite powerful in terms of speed and destructive power? 'Cos it's a jet.

If the jet speed was accurate it would be soooooo less op. Right now it does like 150mph idle speed [no throttle] and like 180-200 full throttle. Knock that up to mach 2 where it should be and all the "pilots" would be bitching because they're in the air for 10 seconds and ran into a building or mountain. Even if you try that op dive bomb at mach 1 you wouldn't have time to pull up, it'd be a kamikaze run.

 

And pilots, please stop ignoring the fact you can aim straight down at us, but we literally cannot aim up high enough to hit or even start a lock on with the homing launcher. Our upward range is limited to like 75 degrees instead of the full 90.

 

I run into a building or mountain, or the ground within 5 seconds anyway.

 

Not everyone is you the cannons need to be nerfed to hell I can kill dozens of players and not be shot down with a lazer.

[_PANiC_]

 

p.s. In my crew, I am used to be being belittled for my Jet piloting skills....and racing...

 

 

its all good *hold backs a tear*

 

Your crew shouldn't do that lol. It really is just something that either clicks with you or doesn't.

 

Helicopters are far more vulnerable anyway.

 

Off topic, but these quote trains are pretty horrible lol.

 

There is a lot they shouldn't do...#banter #mybrosanyway

 

I am good in a Buzzard and except that I am vulnerable when in one and will get destroyed a lot. I have however taken down plenty of Jets and Savages in it! always a very satisfying feat.

 

 

 

Isn't a jet meant to be quite powerful in terms of speed and destructive power? 'Cos it's a jet.

If the jet speed was accurate it would be soooooo less op. Right now it does like 150mph idle speed [no throttle] and like 180-200 full throttle. Knock that up to mach 2 where it should be and all the "pilots" would be bitching because they're in the air for 10 seconds and ran into a building or mountain. Even if you try that op dive bomb at mach 1 you wouldn't have time to pull up, it'd be a kamikaze run.

 

And pilots, please stop ignoring the fact you can aim straight down at us, but we literally cannot aim up high enough to hit or even start a lock on with the homing launcher. Our upward range is limited to like 75 degrees instead of the full 90.

 

I run into a building or mountain, or the ground within 5 seconds anyway.

 

Not everyone is you the cannons need to be nerfed to hell I can kill dozens of players and not be shot down with a lazer.

 

I can do that with an Armored Karuma and no weapons.

Edited June 13, 2016 by PANiC ATTACK3R

[Jerionso]

 

 

p.s. In my crew, I am used to be being belittled for my Jet piloting skills....and racing...

 

 

its all good *hold backs a tear*

 

Your crew shouldn't do that lol. It really is just something that either clicks with you or doesn't.

 

Helicopters are far more vulnerable anyway.

 

Off topic, but these quote trains are pretty horrible lol.

 

There is a lot they shouldn't do...#banter #mybrosanyway

 

I am good in a Buzzard and except that I am vulnerable when in one and will get destroyed a lot. I have however taken down plenty of Jets and Savages in it! always a very satisfying feat.

 

 

 

Isn't a jet meant to be quite powerful in terms of speed and destructive power? 'Cos it's a jet.

If the jet speed was accurate it would be soooooo less op. Right now it does like 150mph idle speed [no throttle] and like 180-200 full throttle. Knock that up to mach 2 where it should be and all the "pilots" would be bitching because they're in the air for 10 seconds and ran into a building or mountain. Even if you try that op dive bomb at mach 1 you wouldn't have time to pull up, it'd be a kamikaze run.

 

And pilots, please stop ignoring the fact you can aim straight down at us, but we literally cannot aim up high enough to hit or even start a lock on with the homing launcher. Our upward range is limited to like 75 degrees instead of the full 90.

 

I run into a building or mountain, or the ground within 5 seconds anyway.

 

Not everyone is you the cannons need to be nerfed to hell I can kill dozens of players and not be shot down with a lazer.

 

I can do that with an Armored Karuma and no weapons.

 

#Gratz

[Hunter]

I am good in a Buzzard and except that I am vulnerable when in one and will get destroyed a lot. I have however taken down plenty of Jets and Savages in it! always a very satisfying feat.

If you can fly a helicopter, then you're more than good enough to fly a jet. Which means jets just aren't for you. No shame in that at all.

 

Anyway, all this arguing's going nowhere, so here's something I propose:

 

• The current jets are nerfed. Their purpose is now for aerial fighting, and sending lock on missiles to vehicles.

 

• An A-10 is added. It has an explosive cannon that can be aimed by moving the camera.

 

• It's fast, but not as maneuverable as a Lazer/Hydra. It can't really dive bomb or dodge missiles, but would have a jammer.

 

• This means there's a jet that's a severe threat if used right (using low flying, strategic use of the jammer, and fast aiming), but it can't simply dive bomb everyone, and isn't king of the skies.

 

Just an idea anyway. This thread's headed nowhere, so just spilling my thoughts.

[Azarael]

As much as I love the A-10 (I used to have a little model of it when I was younger), are you sure you'd prefer to promote the A-10 rather than keeping helicopters in the ground-attack role?

[Hunter]

As much as I love the A-10 (I used to have a little model of it when I was younger), are you sure you'd prefer to promote the A-10 rather than keeping helicopters in the ground-attack role?

I think there'd be room for both, just as long as they were careful with the A-10.

 

Oh, and add drastically buffing helicopters somehow to my manifesto lol. Maybe even a Rustler too, or a Cuban 800 bomber.

 

Just so long as these vehicles can't simply dive bomb everyone, and don't always have the final say on who else can fly, well then I think they'd be welcome.

Edited June 13, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew