Your views on corner shooting

[Nacho Z]

If it really is that hard or even impossible to fix on a technical level then just give us shoulder switching, which should be in the game anyway.

[DangerZ0neX]

If it really is that hard or even impossible to fix on a technical level then just give us shoulder switching, which should be in the game anyway.

It's been in RDR, but that's the old Rockstar that used to craft love and care for their games, nowadays they'd rather break the game than fix it and add 60 million uninspired adversary modes.

 

Proof: matchmaking gets worse after every update.

Edited May 25, 2016 by DangerZ0neX

[Absolut]

If you move at least a bit, this "tactic" is almost useless. I don't see a way to correct this as long as there is 3rd person view, and all the characters are right handed.

Won't mind if it would be fixed, but don't mind it like this.

[Hunter]

Maybe I'm wrong, but couldn't they have just made it so the bullets shoot where the gun's pointed? As opposed to where you can see?

 

I mean, if the camera's shifted to the right, then you can see and pre-aim (if you will) from the wall. But that's just where the camera is. Where the actual gun is pointed ... Is behind the wall. So, it should shoot at the wall.

 

That probably won't happen though, so they'll just have to be flushed out. The Savage should be good for that.

Edited May 25, 2016 by RedDagger
c'mon that gif is 20mb

[8up local]

i can not believe this is even a question, is shooting around corners fair? i would say it is fair, after all it is a legitimate move that is a combat mechanic built into the game that everyone can use. please tell me how it is NOT FAIR? LMFAO

 

 

answer me this, if you was in a real gun fight would you just stand out in the open or take cover the best you can?

Edited May 25, 2016 by 8up local

[Broblab]

Like everything else, it has a solution if you are presented with it as an obstacle.

 

rpg the ground near the corner.

 

idk why this is an issue.

[Furry_Monkey]

i can not believe this is even a question, is shooting around corners fair? i would say it is fair, after all it is a legitimate move that is a combat mechanic built into the game that everyone can use. please tell me how it is NOT FAIR? LMFAO

 

 

answer me this, if you was in a real gun fight would you just stand out in the open or take cover the best you can?

 

Watch the video showing corner shooting, instead of assuming it means taking cover. We're talking about one player magically being able to see the other player and shoot them, despite the fact that the building is in the way.

 

 

Like everything else, it has a solution if you are presented with it as an obstacle.

 

rpg the ground near the corner.

 

idk why this is an issue.

 

It doesn't work if you stand near the corner. RPGing the corner, or the ground near it will do nothing.

 

Seriously, do people not bother watching the videos showing the actual thing we're talking about, before commenting irrelevantly on it?

 

This should help people understand why this is just dumb and cannot even laughably be seen as balanced...

 

 

I used comic sans because this topic is a f*cking joke.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Furry_Monkey

[AOR BigDaddyZee]

Exactly what furry monkey said. Its no different from the people that glitch into apartments and kill you. Then call it a legit tactic because its from the game code.

Edited May 25, 2016 by AOR BigDaddyZee

[Arrows to Athens]

Exactly what furry monkey said. Its no different from the people that glitch into apartments and kill you. Then call it a legit tactic because its from the game code.

Corner shooting and apartment glitching are vastly different; it's like comparing God mode with invisible outfits.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Fearx--

[am30]

Am I missing something? How is this even a glitch or a bug or whatever the salty ones want to call it? It's simply using lines of sight to your advantage. Of all the things to complain about in GTA O, this is not one of them.

[Yozora]

Am I missing something? How is this even a glitch or a bug or whatever the salty ones want to call it? It's simply using lines of sight to your advantage. Of all the things to complain about in GTA O, this is not one of them.

Look at the picture towards the top

[Sir Michael]

People that are blindly supporting this need to watch the videos and look as the pictures...

 

If you refuse to do that, how about I post GIFs showcasing it? People love GIFs, amirite.

 

Shooter's POV:

 

Victim's POV:

[Nacho Z]

Just to add something to the debate, especially for those who don't see a problem with it, let's say that there was a bug where if you drive an Infernus and park it so the driver's side faces your opponent you can't be shot or blown up.

 

Yes, everyone could buy an Infernus so that they are on equal footing but they shouldn't have to. Wouldn't it be better if the game was changed so that the bug no longer worked?

 

It's all hypothetical anyway. I don't think anyone here is mad because they're always getting killed that way and certainly nobody expects it to be changed. It's a matter of principle that's being discussed more than anything.

[AOR BigDaddyZee]

 

Exactly what furry monkey said. Its no different from the people that glitch into apartments and kill you. Then call it a legit tactic because its from the game code.

Corner shooting and apartment glitching are vastly different; it's like comparing God mode with invisible outfits.Actually no . One person cant die and the other dies inevitabally. Its the same m8. How hard is it to get. Damn some dense people exsist.

Look at mikes post. You call that logical. Proper. You use it feel free. But calling it right, fair, proper is just sad

Edited May 25, 2016 by AOR BigDaddyZee

[AOR BigDaddyZee]

Look. I BXR. Double shot, backpack reload and all that in halo. I do it. And no it isnt not even 1% fair. I use it but have the logic to know its unfair, not right. Cause it isnt, same as this. Gives one person a huge advantage they shouldnt or wouldnt otherwise. If you cant see that. Well god damn open your eyes

Edited May 25, 2016 by AOR BigDaddyZee

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

Exactly what furry monkey said. Its no different from the people that glitch into apartments and kill you. Then call it a legit tactic because its from the game code.

Corner shooting and apartment glitching are vastly different; it's like comparing God mode with invisible outfits.

Actually no . One person cant die and the other dies inevitabally. Its the same m8. How hard is it to get. Damn some dense people exsist.

Look at mikes post. You call that logical. Proper. You use it feel free. But calling it right, fair, proper is just sad

 

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. I was pointing how nonsensical his comparison was, so I don't have a clue what you're on about.

 

Maybe think twice before you ramble on about something which has nothing to do with my post and call other people dense, especially with that atrocious grammar and spelling.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Fearx--

[AOR BigDaddyZee]

 

 

 

Exactly what furry monkey said. Its no different from the people that glitch into apartments and kill you. Then call it a legit tactic because its from the game code.

Corner shooting and apartment glitching are vastly different; it's like comparing God mode with invisible outfits.

Actually no . One person cant die and the other dies inevitabally. Its the same m8. How hard is it to get. Damn some dense people exsist.

Look at mikes post. You call that logical. Proper. You use it feel free. But calling it right, fair, proper is just sad

 

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. I was pointing how nonsensical his comparison was, so I don't have a clue what you're on about.

 

Maybe think twice before you ramble about which has nothing to do with my post, especially with that atrocious grammar and spelling?

My point is your arguement is sh*t its unfair thats it

Oh and itz the iterwebbz nah 1 cures abooout spellzong fack

I can spell and all fine. This is not college. When i write exams i care. This is a forum. It must suck when your point is soo soo weak you resort to spelling and all to try to get ahead

Edited May 25, 2016 by AOR BigDaddyZee

[saintsrow]

[snip] It's a matter of principle that's being discussed more than anything.

Indeed, but the principle being discussed in most of these threads is that Rockstar has made, and continues to make, scads of money by selling a popular online PvP game, and with a track record of 2.5 years, they show an inconsistent, slow-to-react intent to fix some of the dumb PvP exploits that are in the game, either as accidental artifacts or as intentional design. It warps the PvP concept, since some players just game the exploits and the ridiculous imbalances, rather than "playing the game."

 

Corner shooting is an example. It's somewhat refined, so it's deviousness and unsuitability is only (un)appreciated by the true GTA0 aficionados who still play GTA0. That would probably be less than 1% of the players, most of whom are here on GTAF.

 

Since Rockstar is still selling games to probably millions of casuals per year, who only play for a few months, until they and their friends move onto the next thing, Rockstar does not have any financial concern for the tiny, tiny fraction of true blue GTAV/GTA0 fans, who bought the game long ago.

 

That's the underlying principle.

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

 

 

Exactly what furry monkey said. Its no different from the people that glitch into apartments and kill you. Then call it a legit tactic because its from the game code.

Corner shooting and apartment glitching are vastly different; it's like comparing God mode with invisible outfits.

Actually no . One person cant die and the other dies inevitabally. Its the same m8. How hard is it to get. Damn some dense people exsist.

Look at mikes post. You call that logical. Proper. You use it feel free. But calling it right, fair, proper is just sad

 

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. I was pointing how nonsensical his comparison was, so I don't have a clue what you're on about.

 

Maybe think twice before you ramble about which has nothing to do with my post, especially with that atrocious grammar and spelling?

My point is your arguement is sh*t its unfair thats it

Oh and itz the iterwebbz nah 1 cures abooout spellzong fack

I can spell and all fine. This is not college. When i write exams i care. This is a forum. It must suck when your point is soo soo weak you resort to spelling and all to try to get ahead

 

Calling people dense and showing aggression over a video game is pretty sad in itself, really. You can make an argument, but convey your points in a civil and mature. You call people dense, yet your sentences are poorly structured; it's as if it was typed by a kid in elementary school.

 

Also, what I was trying to say to you was that your post had nothing to what I was talking about, so you were really rambling on about something that was irrelevant to the subject.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Fearx--

[Nacho Z]

 

[snip] It's a matter of principle that's being discussed more than anything.

Indeed, but the principle being discussed in most of these threads is that Rockstar has made, and continues to make, scads of money by selling a popular online PvP game, and with a track record of 2.5 years, they show an inconsistent, slow-to-react intent to fix some of the dumb PvP exploits that are in the game, either as accidental artifacts or as intentional design. It warps the PvP concept, since some players just game the exploits and the ridiculous imbalances, rather than "playing the game."

 

Corner shooting is an example. It's somewhat refined, so it's deviousness and unsuitability is only (un)appreciated by the true GTA0 aficionados who still play GTA0. That would probably be less than 1% of the players, most of whom are here on GTAF.

 

Since Rockstar is still selling games to probably millions of casuals per year, who only play for a few months, until they and their friends move onto the next thing, Rockstar does not have any financial concern for the tiny, tiny fraction of true blue GTAV/GTA0 fans, who bought the game long ago.

 

That's the underlying principle.

I wish that every word of that wasn't true.

 

Well said.

[AOR BigDaddyZee]

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly what furry monkey said. Its no different from the people that glitch into apartments and kill you. Then call it a legit tactic because its from the game code.

Corner shooting and apartment glitching are vastly different; it's like comparing God mode with invisible outfits.

Actually no . One person cant die and the other dies inevitabally. Its the same m8. How hard is it to get. Damn some dense people exsist.

Look at mikes post. You call that logical. Proper. You use it feel free. But calling it right, fair, proper is just sad

 

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. I was pointing how nonsensical his comparison was, so I don't have a clue what you're on about.

 

Maybe think twice before you ramble about which has nothing to do with my post, especially with that atrocious grammar and spelling?

My point is your arguement is sh*t its unfair thats it

Oh and itz the iterwebbz nah 1 cures abooout spellzong fack

I can spell and all fine. This is not college. When i write exams i care. This is a forum. It must suck when your point is soo soo weak you resort to spelling and all to try to get ahead

 

Calling people dense and showing aggression over a video game is pretty sad in itself, really. You can make an argument, but convey your points in a civil and mature. You call people dense, yet your sentences are poorly structured; it's as if it was typed by a kid in elementary school.

 

Also, what I was trying to say to you was that your post had nothing to what I was talking about, so you were really rambling on about something that was irrelevant to the subject.

You know what fear this is dumb:p have a great day man. I dont enjoy bickerkng over the internet. If you like to corner shoot thats okay. Just remember its dirty my friend

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exactly what furry monkey said. Its no different from the people that glitch into apartments and kill you. Then call it a legit tactic because its from the game code.

Corner shooting and apartment glitching are vastly different; it's like comparing God mode with invisible outfits.

Actually no . One person cant die and the other dies inevitabally. Its the same m8. How hard is it to get. Damn some dense people exsist.

Look at mikes post. You call that logical. Proper. You use it feel free. But calling it right, fair, proper is just sad

 

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. I was pointing how nonsensical his comparison was, so I don't have a clue what you're on about.

 

Maybe think twice before you ramble about which has nothing to do with my post, especially with that atrocious grammar and spelling?

My point is your arguement is sh*t its unfair thats it

Oh and itz the iterwebbz nah 1 cures abooout spellzong fack

I can spell and all fine. This is not college. When i write exams i care. This is a forum. It must suck when your point is soo soo weak you resort to spelling and all to try to get ahead

 

Calling people dense and showing aggression over a video game is pretty sad in itself, really. You can make an argument, but convey your points in a civil and mature. You call people dense, yet your sentences are poorly structured; it's as if it was typed by a kid in elementary school.

 

Also, what I was trying to say to you was that your post had nothing to what I was talking about, so you were really rambling on about something that was irrelevant to the subject.

You know what fear this is dumb:p have a great day man. I dont enjoy bickerkng over the internet. If you like to corner shoot thats okay. Just remember its dirty my friend

 

I don't care what someone thinks of me in a virtual world. Some people may see it as unfair, but I'll still do it, regardless. For me and others, it's not that much of a deal, and you can counter it pretty easily. If I see an opportunity for corner shooting, I won't hesitate to do it. It's not like I corner shoot 90% of the time.

Edited May 25, 2016 by Fearx--

[KODRB]

I'm torn. I utilize it during missions so I rather it stay in place, but i see why some players get upset over it, but at the same time maybe you should pay attention to your surroundings a little more and all it takes it 1 or 2 steps away from the corner for this to not work, it's not like the person shooting can see EVERYTHING around the corner. It doesn't really add much in terms of sight and target range, at least not when dealing with actual players instead of the AI where the player knows about these things and can compensate where the AI follows a typical pattern and such.

[Shadowfennekin]

That sh*t from IV? I hated it

hardly see that, whenever someone get in a corner theres a rpg coming short after...

i love explosives but R* made a huge mistake when they added the buy ammo option to the menu, now 90% of freeroam battles are nothing but people spamming rpgs.

 

I have a love/hate relationship with that ammo buying. I love that I never have to go to Ammunation and activate Passive just to refill on ammo, but I HATE that people can keep buying Homing Missiles. It used to be "ahaha, that's all of your missiles. Can't fire at me anymore can you?" Nope the pricks can just keep on buying Homing Missiles unless they're poor peasants. If anything, explosives shouldn't have been allowed to be refilled that way. Regular ammo I'm okay with.

[Shirayuki]

Well...Although I just found out it's a "glitch" or whatever you call it, and feel ashamed now of using it, I must say that I need it to fight <<infinite rolling invisible body wearing bullet proof helmet using RPG and explosives only>> players. Yes, there are losers that use all of these just to win. But I also need to say that the position required for this is precise. Roll to one side and you're covered, roll to the other and he'll be exposed, the choice is yours.

[Sky_Light12]

Well...Although I just found out it's a "glitch" or whatever you call it, and feel ashamed now of using it, I must say that I need it to fight <<infinite rolling invisible body wearing bullet proof helmet using RPG and explosives only>> players. Yes, there are losers that use all of these just to win. But I also need to say that the position required for this is precise. Roll to one side and you're covered, roll to the other and he'll be exposed, the choice is yours.

if it's infinite rolling , then it's modded account . while i tolerates a dirty & underhanded tricks ( from abusing RPG to glitching ) , i cannot tolerates both modders and modded accounts

[Shirayuki]

 

Well...Although I just found out it's a "glitch" or whatever you call it, and feel ashamed now of using it, I must say that I need it to fight <<infinite rolling invisible body wearing bullet proof helmet using RPG and explosives only>> players. Yes, there are losers that use all of these just to win. But I also need to say that the position required for this is precise. Roll to one side and you're covered, roll to the other and he'll be exposed, the choice is yours.

if it's infinite rolling , then it's modded account . while i tolerates a dirty & underhanded tricks ( from abusing RPG to glitching ) , i cannot tolerates both modders and modded accounts

 

True, I think like that aswell. But the poll is wrong, since logically this isn't cheating, nor' do I call this bug exploit, more like bad engineering/designing from R*. Cheating are modded accounts and modding of all sorts, and that's it. Wallbreaching is a bug exploit, and corner shooting MIGHT be in the same case, like I said "MIGHT be".

[Furry_Monkey]

True, I think like that aswell. But the poll is wrong, since logically this isn't cheating, nor' do I call this bug exploit, more like bad engineering/designing from R*. Cheating are modded accounts and modding of all sorts, and that's it. Wallbreaching is a bug exploit, and corner shooting MIGHT be in the same case, like I said "MIGHT be".

 

 

I agree with that, which is why I've not voted in the poll. It's VERY rare you see anyone on this forum who has the slightest idea how to make a simple poll. It's so easy to just ask a clear question and then have Yes/No/Maybe options, but people always have to add extra crap to the options that wreck them. It's not fair but I don't consider it cheating, so there is no poll option for me.

[Sir Michael]

It's a bit difficult to have a view on this subject because this has been a problem for years with third-person shooters. Hell, first-person shooters still suffer from head-glitching, something that GTA V was able to capitalize on with the way its first-person camera was implemented... kind of embarrassing for other developers since this isn't a dedicated shooter. Very few games have been able to counter corner shooting, so it remains a problem to this day. Is it cheating or is it an exploit? It's hard to say, but it's obviously not fair for somebody who has a wall they can hide behind. Personally, I see it as a major design flaw.

[WoJo07]

People use auto aim - which is in the options (dews are either so stupid or they expected ppl to cheat so they've let everyone have a chance to cheat as well or sth), and you consider this cheating...