Should rockstar remove the marksman rifle

[Pedinhuh]

Just remove the ability to run sideways with any sniper rifle or nerf it down to walking speed, in fact, enforcing the "stealth mode" everytime you look into the scope of any sniper rifle should be enough.

[Zader]

I think the Marksman should have less range, and that, if moving, all sniper rifles should jump like hell and have crazy bullet spread.

Removing it seems maybe a tad too far, however.

[scs151]

What are most of you talking about you have time to get 2 shots in with heavy sniper vs marksman always.

 

A good aimer will always win with heavy vs marksman always.

 

Game is ok if you ask me, people just dont realise that somethings are overpowered for controller where as they are not for mouse/keyboard and vise versa.

[l Marksman God l]

What are most of you talking about you have time to get 2 shots in with heavy sniper vs marksman always.

 

A good aimer will always win with heavy vs marksman always.

 

Game is ok if you ask me, people just dont realise that somethings are overpowered for controller where as they are not for mouse/keyboard and vise versa.

That depends. If the guy is a good marksman with a good footwork(Not just going left and right), he might shoot you 4-5 times with his marksman before your 2 shots. I beat a bunch of good heavy snipers with my marksman

[wmblgy]

Nothing that's added to the game should ever be removed. Balanced, updated; but never removed. Especially not after it has been in the game for years. It would be a massive cop-out and an insult to the players.

 

I highly doubt it was ever Rockstar's intention to have all weapons in a category be equally competitive anyway. Considering DLC weapons not being rank locked as well, weapon progression and balance are not concepts that mean much in GTA:O.

[dudclub55]

It should be nerfed so that it deals less damage than the regular bolt action sniper. It makes no sense that this thing fires much faster but still kills in the same number of shots.

Oh and f*cking nerf strafe spread, strafing in general shouldn't be that good in any game.

[Skeve613]

I want to say yes because the ground game at current is a retarded mess of side-to-side jittering and rolling which I find annoying, though in all honesty not one that is unbalanced or overpowered...

 

 

.. but on the other hand, it gives me a reason to gleefully explosives-spam the s**t out of everyone I see using these sort of silly tactics, especially since they are often the type that tends to send delightfully profane hate mail after being RPGd for the fifth time.

[JuanG12]

By far the most OP weapon in the game. Not the Rocket Launcher or Homing Launcher, but the Marksman Rifle. I never liked it, never will. Give me the Heavy Sniper instead.

[CarimboHanky]

The problem with the marksman rifle is that it has less recoil impulse than any other rifle, by a good margin. Mashing in the trigger rapidly puts all the bullets in the same place, when it shouldn't.

 

Give it appropriate recoil per shot and any problems are solved. Give it some small to moderate random left/right recoil and some meaningful vertical recoil that must be compensated for every shot.

while i agree with this, the marksman perse have a lot of recoil, specially vertical recoil, the problem the way they designed the game.

 

filling the "Shooting" skill bars pretty much removes all the recoil from weapon.

with my main guy that have the shooting bar filled i can move from side to side without losing sight of the target.

 

wih my second character, its hard because it only have 1 bar filled, so everytime i shoot i get a massive recoil kick that make moving from side to side while keeping the target in sight pretty much impossible.

[lol232]

Why not just buff the heavy sniper instead?

Edited May 21, 2016 by lol232

[Flexin]

hell no! I love my marksman kid, just git gud

The haters of the marksman rifle probably uses the marksman rifle because they can't beat anyone using the heavy sniper

OP - 1 Logic - 0

Why do you sound like most people in this game when they get a cheap kill?

[Cant-B-Faded]

I feep like this topic has been discussed multiple times before.

I personally hate this gun. People spam fire this gun. A marksman rifle is not meant to be spam fired irl like the way it is in this game.

And when other players kill you with it, it says things like "scoped you" or "sniped you". They didn't snipe anything. The only thing they did is empty a clip and a half trying real hard to kill someone.

Someone's angry. It must be working.

[poopman25]

I just think they should never have added the ability to run while sniping. It doesn't make sense, and has degraded sniping in general into just shifting from side to side.

 

Strategy, thinking, and aiming carefully is no longer important, and I think that's a shame. Instead it's just guys wiggling all the time. Just a little boring, in my opinion.

 

I don't think they should remove the gun itself though; just running while sniping (which was never in the game to begin with).

I love when people shift from side to side, I just shoot straight ahead with my Marksman and they pretty much kill themselves. Lol.

Edited May 22, 2016 by poopman25

[nhh4i6368]

Uh, no.

[scs151]

 

What are most of you talking about you have time to get 2 shots in with heavy sniper vs marksman always.

 

A good aimer will always win with heavy vs marksman always.

 

Game is ok if you ask me, people just dont realise that somethings are overpowered for controller where as they are not for mouse/keyboard and vise versa.

That depends. If the guy is a good marksman with a good footwork(Not just going left and right), he might shoot you 4-5 times with his marksman before your 2 shots. I beat a bunch of good heavy snipers with my marksman

 

What do you mean if a guy/girl is good or not. This is just simple mechanics of how fast one weapon shoots vs the other.

 

You always have 2 shots with heavy sniper vs marksman if you miss you die.

 

But that is your fault not the games just improve your aim.

 

Game is perfectly balanced if you ask me there is not a single thing that is really overpowered.

 

People just dont want to properly learn how to play against each thing. I see people crying about jets being overpowered where as i havent had problems with them after i died 150 times and learned how to beat them.

 

Same goes for tanks, armored cars, insurgents, marksman rifle and so on. All things have counters you just have to learn what works best and how.

Edited May 22, 2016 by scs151

[Da British Badgur]

 

 

What are most of you talking about you have time to get 2 shots in with heavy sniper vs marksman always.

 

A good aimer will always win with heavy vs marksman always.

 

Game is ok if you ask me, people just dont realise that somethings are overpowered for controller where as they are not for mouse/keyboard and vise versa.

That depends. If the guy is a good marksman with a good footwork(Not just going left and right), he might shoot you 4-5 times with his marksman before your 2 shots. I beat a bunch of good heavy snipers with my marksman

 

But that is your fault not the games just improve your aim.

 

Game is perfectly balanced if you ask me there is not a single thing that is really overpowered.

 

People just dont want to properly learn how to play against each thing. I see people crying about jets being overpowered where as i havent had problems with them after i died 150 times and learned how to beat them.

Game is perfectly balanced? For PvE yes, for PVP no. Jets are op since they are easy to manoeuvre,can out run a homing rocket and has op cannons that have a ridiculous splash radius. Kuruma is pretty much a super car with armoured windows.Insurgent is takes up to 6 explosions to be destroyed and has a bullet proof back. Guns have zero recoil, bullet drop or any logic. Heavy sniper instant kills anyone under rank 99 and marksmen is a spam and run gun. You don't need a good aim to win. Just strafe until the little white dot meets with the persons body, simple. It's not like this game requires much skill to win...

[scs151]

Jet can be beat with heavy sniper/homing/minigun depending on the situation. Never died to the same player with a jet more than 2 times without killing him. Helicopters if you are skilled enought do it works as well.

 

Tanks are easy to beat with jet/helicopter or even bike with stickies and off rader.

 

Kurumas = RPG/homing/grenade launcher with 1 shot or just minigun him into the opening in the windows. (tank and jet/helicopter beats it as well)

 

Insurgent Pick up/Insurgent = just minigun him within the opening /sniping is easy as well (kuruma/tank/jet/helicopter beat it)

 

Heavy sniper beats marksman rifle with good aim. And i have no idea how you think you dont need to have good aim in this game.

 

PS: Like i said it many times don't always look from your point of view only. Game is made for controller and for mouse/keyboard. Game is different for both.

[Nah nah nah Gta 6]

I rarely see anyone with a Marksman rifle, on PS4 anyway, because the Heavy Sniper is superior in every way.

[Godovermoney]

If you take it away then it's pretty much who gets the drop on who. The heavy sniper takes skill while the marksman rifle takes none. I have little skill in sniping so I use the marksman rifle only when I have to. For the most part I'm a short range fighter. But you can't even do that anymore because you'll just get exploded to often.

[Neuling2000]

All they have to do is slow down movement when aiming snipers in 1st person so it is equal to 3rd person, problem solved. But we all know that Rockstar will probably never do that.

1st and 3rd person have the same speed. There's only a delay in 3rd person when you change your direction of movement. And you have to hold the run button.

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

I hate this rifle with a passion.

I hate this rifle with a passion. It's literally used by unskillful people who just spray and pray. I do give my props to people who can get a headshot with it.

I hate this rifle with a passion. It's literally used by unskillful people who just spray and pray. I do give my props to people who can get a headshot with it.

I immediately saw this in my head from your post

Where did you get this image?

Who is that man?

[ash-274]

 

 

I hate this rifle with a passion.

I hate this rifle with a passion. It's literally used by unskillful people who just spray and pray. I do give my props to people who can get a headshot with it.

I hate this rifle with a passion. It's literally used by unskillful people who just spray and pray. I do give my props to people who can get a headshot with it.

I immediately saw this in my head from your post

Where did you get this image?

Who is that man?

If serious: that's Jack Nicholson in The Shining. The "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy" setup.

[Gridl0k]

I voted 'no' because they should remove/meganerf the HL first. f*cking thing can turn 180deg in 20ft if it feels like it.

 

Well, I would have if the OP had actually done a poll.

[CaptainMental]

How do people run with it? What settings are u using? Cause all I can do is walk slowly around while aiming with it...

[Gridl0k]

How do people run with it? What settings are u using? Cause all I can do is walk slowly around while aiming with it...

 

In first person your character moves at sprint speed by default when ADS on the Marksman and running (hold a).

 

That's why try-hards generally look like they've just got back from 3 years at sea.

Edited May 22, 2016 by Gridl0k

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

 

Game is perfectly balanced if you ask me there is not a single thing that is really overpowered.

 

People just dont want to properly learn how to play against each thing. I see people crying about jets being overpowered where as i havent had problems with them after i died 150 times and learned how to beat them.

 

 

 

GTA O is probably the worst balanced game i've ever seen. Saying nothing is OP is sort of a joke. Theres tons of examples. Just take melee weapons... Whats the most powerful melee weapon in the game? Well its a pistol whip...

 

And jets are the most OP weapon in the game. People cry about jets because they are OP and annoying. Beating jets is not impossible. But doing other sh*t in game while a jet is tagging you is impossible.

[Gridl0k]

GTAO balance be like

[Hunter]

I voted 'no' because they should remove/meganerf the HL first. f*cking thing can turn 180deg in 20ft if it feels like it.

 

Well, I would have if the OP had actually done a poll.

Oh yeah; that thing's gross:

 

[grand theft spaghetti]

the rifle isnt the problem. its the scumbag players that use every possible exploit while using the marksmen sniper.

 

players with invisible bodies wearing bph helmet/mask glitch doing the super health vest glitch while abusing 1st person mode to wiggle around faster. some of them still have super speed and combat roll mods active. manipulating their lag or just straight up lag switching.

 

the really sad ones just spam infinite explosives in between killing themselves.

[CaptainMental]

 

How do people run with it? What settings are u using? Cause all I can do is walk slowly around while aiming with it...

 

In first person your character moves at sprint speed by default when ADS on the Marksman and running (hold a).

 

That's why try-hards generally look like they've just got back from 3 years at sea.

Dos this work on old gen? What does ADS mean?

 

I highly doubt it was ever Rockstar's intention to have all weapons in a category be equally competitive anyway. Considering DLC weapons not being rank locked as well, weapon progression and balance are not concepts that mean much in GTA:O.

thats why I don't give newbies much mercy....they have the access to equally good hardware as I do...with HL, mines, marksman rifle, heavy shotgun, heavy pistol and special carbine being available to them from start.