TheHumanIsland Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) I want you to think about that. Soon, this man will not only be talking bullet points, he will also be telling you how he led a revolution. A new GTA. One where he didn't just listen to the boss, but he was one of the bosses. This man is a genius, and you can tell by his work on San Andreas and onward. It's not just his work prior to those, it's his work on SA and the following titles that showed just how in-tune this man is in his plight with how to immerse you, as players, into his worlds. He has been a lead environment artist under The Benz for many years. Aaron Garbut is not untangled. He is now a lead at Rockstar North, and, if news reports are to be followed, he basically is an Executive Producer, since he is one of a two-man team to replace "The Benz". I want to you think about this for a moment before you post your spectacular and well-informed GTAforums venom - this man is the reason we loved these games so much - we loved the maps, the exploration, we blamed him when we ran out of sh*t to see, but still knew in our hearts that the game gave us more than everything it set out to promise - especially in GTA SA, where, whether known to you or not, he had the strongest points in his career - He was the one who paid attention and never ever went lone-wolf because, plain and simply, he couldn't. This man is the environment say-so from here until we see a change at rockstar north. This man is going to give you the biggest GTA experience you ever could imagine in 2017, and he never had this shot before - Now he can do whatever he wants. Is that a good thing? Is it a bad thing? You can't really hold IV or V against him, even if you tried, "Official General" would teach at least 1 lesson, if not, two. This game, this "Next" gta, is going to be an opus that hasn't had to bow to a core initial investor - giving him the freedom he was hired to give, without a nay-say to stifle him. This game, this "next" GTA, is going to be a game where a lead artist is also a lead in the development organization. I would say that is unheard of, but it simply isn't. And I expect the "gamerly educated" people of GTAforums to show this as a fact - after all, I wouldn't have a topic if I didn't give you space to expand upon it. When a person knows the end result, he's got to let you speculate - do that. And let's find out, together, just how powerful this man will be, in the next game. What do you think Aaron Garbut being a lead will be for GTA, and how excited are you to see what he was held back from doing before materializing in the next gta? Best topic ever? no. But some of you will be critical enough to bring it close. Edited May 7, 2016 by TheHumanIsland Dock, Maxxeine, Sergiu and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabalous Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) I admire Garbut and those who work under his lead. I believe that the art direction imagined by all games from Rockstar, be it Grand Theft Auto, Red Dead or Bully, are all set and supervised mainly by Aaron. I think that he sat some kind of standard 'look' and 'feel' to which all art should conform to. With his experience, I imagine him having the ability to smell the art direction of a given setting/location/area in an open world and say: 'No, this doesn't smell like it's a living, breathing world'. Edited May 7, 2016 by FiS!!HeR Maxxeine, TheHumanIsland, Ivan1997GTA and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Aaron Garbut isn't only a "simple" art lead, he is part of the team who first designs the idea for another GTA. So I expect him to be as great as Leslie. TheHumanIsland, Kalvin, Luk38644 and 8 others 11 let your hopes and dreams turn into burning fire! GTANet | Red Dead Network | kifflom black lives matter | stop Asian hate | trans lives = human lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimeball supreme Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Garbut is a genius. Simply put. TheHumanIsland, Maibatsu545, Triple Vacuum Seal and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dock Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Has to be said, eager to see how VI/neXt will turn out with the changes made at R*. AmigaMix, TheHumanIsland and Hybrid_Punk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraftwerkd Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Well, this is good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maibatsu545 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) Can we got a mod to remove all the fan-addict antagonizing garbage in the OP and leave the actual relevant information? Is there any proof Garbut is now the project lead now? All I could find was a bunch of bizarre vitriol (seriously, it reads like a cult member wrote it) at imaginary people in his post. Edited May 9, 2016 by Maibatsu545 Triple Vacuum Seal and Official General 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXVIII Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) Indeed with the regretful, indefinite departure of The Benz, one of the purveyors of Grand Theft Auto's sustained prestige and legacy, having Aaron Garbut commandeer the operations of Rockstar North will help to supplement such a voluminous and most imperative role. I truly cannot express enough, per all of the literature that I have acknowledged pertaining to that regard, of how I wish that The Benz' absence was but a mirage. Something that could not be foreseeable as coming to fruition. Upon conducting extensive research I have really been enlightened and astounded as to just how The Benz construed the presence of Grand Theft Auto installments, as a plurality of music, each seeking to cultivate distinction in the way of tonality, and enticing a limitless target market. With Mr. Garbut harboring the empirical delineation of 'Boss', by virtue of his esteemed, highly commendable tenure with administering the altruistic integrity of Grand Theft Auto: V in part, Grand Theft Auto: VI would be enabled to target a more daunting vision and precedents. Moreover, it could very well be within the bounds of feasibility that Garbut's audaciousness could craft the lexicon, whose canvas would undoubtedly defy any cartographic schematic ever seeded into a Grand Theft Auto framework. The cartographic concept that I speak of is that sprawling, voloptouous and bold depiction of a Grand Theft Auto: VI that would be a heterogeneous formula that affords our protagonist(s) with a redefined perspective of the cities where Rockstar's notable insurrectionists lurked and conquered. A Grand Theft Auto: VI that, as vested by your volition, could transition from the overtones of 'Heat' to the once neon vibes of Miami Vice, to an even more populous Big Apple that does not preclude any iota of authenticity, panning across the entire state. Conceptually, it is a very beautiful supposition in how this Grand Theft Auto: VI, perse, would execute the lines of a script that its predecessor could not structurally and geographically articulate to the full extent. Grand Theft Auto: V yearned for more. That would of course not dismiss the valiance as well as the unprecedented milestones, namingly the fiscal milestone that it achieved within three days of exposure. The amazing thing is that Aaron Garbut could see to it that his 'artistic prototypes' be cast outright, forego reality and emerge with the retail iteration of Grand Theft Auto: VI. Garbut had been credited for absolutely electrifying The Benz and Rockstar North with his leviathan take on Grand Theft Auto: IV's geography, which initially sought to encompass a Liberty City state. Albeit that this had been dismissed per Rockstar's election to alter the ultimate objective of that installment, Garbut's ingenuity surged and was profoundly reflected within Grand Theft Auto: V. I can recollect him speaking of the more intimate scope of the lighting facilitated in Grand Theft Auto: V, in which he asserted that the visible beams of light that you could detect in the distance corresponded to an actual light source. Even the illumination of vehicles' exterior lighting from the aerial perspective. I think that it would be very humbling for Aaron Garbut to be exuding himself as The Benz and replicating his expertise in the orchestration of the prospective Grand Theft Auto: VI. It is my understanding that the working aura of Rockstar North calls for the contingency of consistent systematic operations, whereby all departments (level designers, art directors, programmers, et cetera), and Rockstar studios thereof must retain strong communications through the phases of development. It is clear that Rockstar North's team are very grounded in what they set out to accomplish every day and for the forthcoming months. I must say that such a solidified caliber of workmanship is admirable as it is commendable. There could be a moderate to heavy magnitude of rigor that could arise at any phase during the development sequence, which the team has undoubtedly been prone to amid finalization of Grand Theft Auto: V. Rectifying bugs / flukes / glitches, testing, calibrations, motion captures, reconfiguring strings of code, et cetera. It really puts it into a realistic perspective as to what a Rockstar employee must surmount, before a Grand Theft Auto installment can transition to 'Gold' status. As a certifiable project lead, based upon every bit of knowledge and insight I have acquired of Aaron Garbut, spanning from Grand Theft Auto: V previews to an informational article that elaborated on Rockstar North's rise to notoriety, this is excellent news. I have to say that whilst I am not worried, I am however quite concerned as to what the current status of Rockstar North and Rockstar Games is collectively. Never would I want to see this great company and gaming license capsize, nor do I hope it profoundly impacts Grand Theft Auto: VI. I cannot stress that enough. I am sure that this sentiment is being echoed by many. I am very eager and excited for the details of Grand Theft Auto: VI to emerge and it really does feel like something is on the verge of striking within the next few months. It would be amazing if Grand Theft Auto: VI were to be announced via E3, as Grand Theft Auto: IV was in 2006. For what we currently have at our disposal, the reports being disclosed by credible websites are subtly and progressively helping to build the momentum for Grand Theft Auto: VI. Lets see what E3 will bring. Edited May 9, 2016 by AgentGTAVI TheHumanIsland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHumanIsland Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) Can we got a mod to remove all the fan-addict antagonizing garbage in the OP and leave the actual relevant information? Is there any proof Garbut is now the project lead now? All I could find was a bunch of bizarre vitriol (seriously, it reads like a cult member wrote it) at imaginary people in his post. lol f off dude! Don't ride my posts and try to edit my legacy, let people have fun, stickler. You can't fit in or fill these robes. Besides, yes, there is proof he is one of the two new people who replace leslie at rockstar north as the head honchos there, look it up. Edited May 9, 2016 by TheHumanIsland ten-a-penny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maibatsu545 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) ^^^Not sure what all this is about but I see no proof of Garbut's change of position, so I'm just going to disregard it. You can't just say "look it up" when the burden of proof for your argument is on you. Edited May 9, 2016 by Maibatsu545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHumanIsland Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) That's just you assuming I care to argue with you.The burden of proof is on the doubter, not the claimant, because I do not subscribe to your fallacies of argument. You see everyone else commenting on the fact, yet just because you don't know, you think it should be proven to you, and worse, you think you should call for someone else's submission to be edited. Shame on you. All I had to type was http://lmgtfy.com/?q=aaron+garbut+now+the+lead+of+rockstar+north Didn't even have to click and read any of the results that talk about this, the top of the list is the wiki entry which clearly states "Following The Benz' departure, art directors Aaron Garbut and Rob Nelson lead Rockstar North." right in the description on google! On the first result! And it's not the only place. And wikipedia is reliable with an army of people, so don't bring that internet nonsense to me either, please! Edited May 9, 2016 by TheHumanIsland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maibatsu545 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) That's just you assuming I care to argue with you.The burden of proof is on the doubter, not the claimant, because I do not subscribe to your fallacies of argument. You see everyone else commenting on the fact, yet just because you don't know, you think it should be proven to you, and worse, you think you should call for someone else's submission to be edited. Shame on you. All I had to type was http://lmgtfy.com/?q=aaron+garbut+now+the+lead+of+rockstar+north Didn't even have to click and read any of the results that talk about this, the top of the list is the wiki entry which clearly states "Following The Benz' departure, art directors Aaron Garbut and Rob Nelson lead Rockstar North." right in the description on google! On the first result! And it's not the only place. And wikipedia is reliable with an army of people, so don't bring that internet nonsense to me either, please! Thanks for the proof. Mods can edit all of his other antagonizing stuff out though, because I'm certainly not reading it. Don't have time for Internet arguments with angry dudes like the OP. I will say Best to Mr.Garbut, though, huge fan of his work. Edited May 10, 2016 by Maibatsu545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHumanIsland Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 the mods are not your personal sentries to do your bidding. Anyway, bigones let's be them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan1997GTA Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I have a feeling that Aaron Garbut, or "The Garb" as I'm going to call him, will attempt to fix the problems that R*'s been experiencing since The Benz left. I don't want the company to become like Cartoon Network after Stuart Snyder took over. TheHumanIsland and D T 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Dawg Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Let's see what The Garb can cook up, and if it will be better than any dish The Benz made. TheHumanIsland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythicalCreature Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 "The Garb" Sounds too close to "Garbage" Maybe we should call him AarGar instead otachi, TheHumanIsland and Ivan1997GTA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osho Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Its a team work. No matter how talented Aaron is, he will still need to put everyone on board in particular after the Benz exit. Its going to be a different experience now since then in getting Housers and his team working along side for the future titles. MrEnigma and TheHumanIsland 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) I have a feeling that Aaron Garbut, or "The Garb" as I'm going to call him, will attempt to fix the problems that R*'s been experiencing since The Benz left. I don't want the company to become like Cartoon Network after Stuart Snyder took over.Only if the Housers let him. What Aaron has on him though is loads of experience as he is at R* for like 25 years now (started out early at DMA). Edited May 10, 2016 by Spider-Vice TheHumanIsland and Ivan1997GTA 2 let your hopes and dreams turn into burning fire! GTANet | Red Dead Network | kifflom black lives matter | stop Asian hate | trans lives = human lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 So have we actually got a link to this, or are we just going on with ourselves? Because I can't find any information about this takeover at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 If there is any truth to this, Garbut will have been working side-by-side with The Benz for years and will have certainly had some influence rub off on him. As well as bringing his own unique perspective to the role, if, indeed, it's true. I think it's a safe decision, hiring someone from the inside that's worked alongside the person they're allegedly replacing, and certainly better than hiring someone from the outside, who isn't tuned into the Rockstar ways and methods already. If this is true, I think it's only a good thing. Signatures are dumb anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journey_95 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Link? Or are just speculating? If true then its good news no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider-Vice Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I don't think there is any announcement. It does make sense that it's going to be him though, he is only one step below Leslie AFAIK, and he's as "lead" as he was. Either him or Rob Nelson. let your hopes and dreams turn into burning fire! GTANet | Red Dead Network | kifflom black lives matter | stop Asian hate | trans lives = human lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I'll keep judgements on him for when the next GTA comes out. Lancerator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 That's just you assuming I care to argue with you.The burden of proof is on the doubter, not the claimant, because I do not subscribe to your fallacies of argument. You see everyone else commenting on the fact, yet just because you don't know, you think it should be proven to you, and worse, you think you should call for someone else's submission to be edited. Shame on you. All I had to type was http://lmgtfy.com/?q=aaron+garbut+now+the+lead+of+rockstar+north Didn't even have to click and read any of the results that talk about this, the top of the list is the wiki entry which clearly states "Following The Benz' departure, art directors Aaron Garbut and Rob Nelson lead Rockstar North." right in the description on google! On the first result! And it's not the only place. And wikipedia is reliable with an army of people, so don't bring that internet nonsense to me either, please! I'm sorry but the burden of proof was/is on you. The doubter isn't making any positive claims like you are. He was asking for the evidence in which you still haven't bothered to link to the topic. Referring to the bit of info on Wiki which was taken from Kokatu is that Rob Nelson and Aaron Garbut now lead. Seems like a natural progression. But Kokatu don't cite their sources and it could be them just speculating although it does seem likely. Triple Vacuum Seal and Maibatsu545 2 MOVING LIKE BERNIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Official General Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 I'll keep judgements on him for when the next GTA comes out. I think I'll take the same position as you and leave it at that. Pedinhuh and Dangerous and sad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not A Nice Person Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 standard 'look' and 'feel' to which all art should conform to. Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D T Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) "The Garb" Sounds too close to "Garbage" I have a feeling that's what we'll be calling him a day after GTA VI's launch. Edited May 11, 2016 by Deadly Target Ivan1997GTA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloatedsack Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I think people looking for a reason to be disappointed with future product are going to find it, regardless. For the rest of the people who are open minded enough, the product will tell you your answer when it gets here. I suspect that GTA VI will closely mirror the success of GTA V, except it will involve a different cast and a different story line. I don't think Mercedes The Benz (you guys revert the filter yet?) was as responsible for that aspect as other parties are. Regardless, if Garbut is now the director or whatever title you get, it simply shows that someone with long term experience has taken over who can maintain the path that he's picked up over the last few years. 20 years. That's how long. 20 f*cking years. JFC people are worried about nothing. I looked that up, adn seriously, 20 years. I'm pretty sure he knows how to do the parts of The Benz job outside of technical points (actual programming/debugging). Anyways, I think I'm off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHumanIsland Posted May 14, 2016 Author Share Posted May 14, 2016 That's just you assuming I care to argue with you.The burden of proof is on the doubter, not the claimant, because I do not subscribe to your fallacies of argument. You see everyone else commenting on the fact, yet just because you don't know, you think it should be proven to you, and worse, you think you should call for someone else's submission to be edited. Shame on you. All I had to type was http://lmgtfy.com/?q=aaron+garbut+now+the+lead+of+rockstar+north Didn't even have to click and read any of the results that talk about this, the top of the list is the wiki entry which clearly states "Following The Benz' departure, art directors Aaron Garbut and Rob Nelson lead Rockstar North." right in the description on google! On the first result! And it's not the only place. And wikipedia is reliable with an army of people, so don't bring that internet nonsense to me either, please! I'm sorry but the burden of proof was/is on you. The doubter isn't making any positive claims like you are. He was asking for the evidence in which you still haven't bothered to link to the topic. Referring to the bit of info on Wiki which was taken from Kokatu is that Rob Nelson and Aaron Garbut now lead. Seems like a natural progression. But Kokatu don't cite their sources and it could be them just speculating although it does seem likely. You're speaking from a pre-internet era where the information one claims is easily found or debunked by the one who doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple Vacuum Seal Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Can we get a reliable source please? Aaron Garbut would be a great lead, but you have still failed to verifying your own claim. You could leave out all support relevant to your claim, but then this topic wouldn't be relevant now would it? "shut up, sit down, relax" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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