The tank isn't that bad in its current state

[The Wandering Hunter]

Honestly I don't get what people are complaining about

 

It's a tank, irl air vehicles destroy tanks, an Apache can kill them by the dozen from a mile away. So that's fair.

 

Against players on foot it's still incredibly good, and if you stay near cover the helis and jets are countered. You can shoot before the hl locks on and with good use of cover and positioning it can last a while. It even tells you when you're about to die so you can bail and booby trap it.

 

Insurgents have been nerfed and are also easy to kill, just back away and shoot 3 times, probably less if they're holding a sticky.

[Hybrid_Punk]

I honestly haven't heard people complain since Rockstar nerfed the tanks last year.

[SoDank_ItPainsMe]

Tanks are great for shooting down approaching attack helis, (off radar savage can be a threat though) and even jets if the pilot doesn't dive bomb you.

 

I can survive for a long time in a tank purely by always having a bounty on me when in a tank, shooting police before they can approach me and paying attention to the radar. I would not want the tank to have more damage resistance at all, because if I'm on foot and faced with a player in a tank I at least want to be able to kill him after a death or even a few deaths while I shoot RPGs at him and place explosives on the floor.

 

If you are quick enough with the turret and observant enough you shouldn't be taking that much damage imho. Say the tank had double the health, 2 jet passes with cannons and you are still finished but it's super annoying for players on the ground.

Edited May 4, 2016 by SoDank_ItPainsMe

[Fish_head]

Tank/cargobob combi is fun. Even more so if you got a bounty. Nobody expects the tank to be on the roof

[Hunter]

It's not that bad, but it is quite bad. It could do with a small armour buff, and removing the damage from crushing cars.

[ClippedWings]

I miss the days when the tank was feared. It's not logical for an insurgent to have better armour than a tank. The nerf is absurd, if anything they should buff it's armour so it would be feared again and more viable.. And I mean why not? The jets are the most OP thing in the game, why would it hurt to have strong tanks too?

[SoDank_ItPainsMe]

It's not logical for an insurgent to have better armour than a tank.

 

But the tank doesn't have windows made of paper that you can shoot the driver through, in my opinion blowing up insurgents when on foot is not the way to defend against them, it is better to kill the occupants with bullets preferably from a minigun.

 

The insurgent has high armour and is the only multi seat vehicle which can take a few slaps from a tank and even multiple jet passes yet still give you a chance to get away with your VIP organization or friends or even alone without having to deal with other multi seat vehicles that take 2 explosive hits to destroy from guys on foot and if it's a tank or a jet you might as well be in a kuruma.

Edited May 4, 2016 by SoDank_ItPainsMe

[CarimboHanky]

whenever i see a tank i just laugh...

 

that used to be the most feared vehicle in the game and now it just a joke.

[The Wandering Hunter]

It's not that bad, but it is quite bad. It could do with a small armour buff, and removing the damage from crushing cars.

Yeah the one thing I hate is that civilian cars are the biggest threat, although idk in real life a full tank of gas blowing up under you might cause problems lol

 

And the jet should take a little longer to kill the tank, not 3 passes, just enough to give it a chance against a novice pilot

Edited May 4, 2016 by The Sole Survivor

[Mach1bud]

 

It's not that bad, but it is quite bad. It could do with a small armour buff, and removing the damage from crushing cars.

Yeah the one thing I hate is that civilian cars are the biggest threat, although idk in real life a full tank of gas blowing up under you might cause problems lol

 

And the jet should take a little longer to kill the tank, not 3 passes, just enough to give it a chance against a novice pilot

 

 

irl a tank will crush a car and never be phased. Full tank or not. Seen it, been there, done that.

 

It is easy to say the tank isn't that bad if you don't remember or weren't around when it was way better. In 2013, the tank ruled the streets. Perspective is important.

[fw3]

I hate that they nerfed the ability to snipe tank griefers.

That was the absolute bestest thing ever in GTAO.

Well, that and surviving a $1.3 million bounty in November 2013.

 

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Ahem. As you were.

[Nick1020]

It's good for getting maybe 10 kills if you're good but that's it. It'll be smoking thanks to npcs and cops. All they had to do really was limit the amount of times you can call one.

[Guest]

Most players I see fail miserably in the face of a tank, lure them into a proximity/sticky bomb haven and it's all over. I'm pretty nifty with the regular RPG too. Now if they'd only nerf the jets which are ridiculously OP.

[ash-274]

I hate that they nerfed the ability to snipe tank griefers.

That was the absolute bestest thing ever in GTAO.

 

Well, that and surviving a $1.3 million bounty in November 2013.

 

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!

 

Ahem. As you were.

Back when tanks were feared, I grabbed one that was being a d*ck to the lobby (also talking racist smack on the mic) with a Cargobob and dropped him into one of the small oil-storage tanks in the port area. He couldn't shoot out of it and he couldn't jump out and call for another tank until it was destroyed.

That was better than sniping because the whole lobby descended on him for revenge.

 

Also, grabbing an occupied NPC tank and dropping it in a freeroam deathmatch was fun for chaos' sake. Now, the other players could just toss a couple of stickies and blow it up and still have time to lock a HL rocket onto my 'Bob before I cleared the area.

 

Edited May 4, 2016 by ash-274

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

ikr

its still better then what it was pre buff

the only thing i might want to see buffed is the front and the 2 vents at the back in return nerfed but yea....its well balanced

It's good for getting maybe 10 kills if you're good but that's it. It'll be smoking thanks to npcs and cops. All they had to do really was limit the amount of times you can call one.

akward....if i use it when having a bounty i have often more kills then that

seriously, the only thing that stops me going is a good buzzard pilot or a jet

beyond that....if someone goes off radar i just drive looking backwards and leaving the centrum of the city....sh*t like that

not many have gotten me in it with a ground vehicle unless i have done something stupid like running over mines or stuff like that...and god...they try

[OBeef619]

I've never seen a tank smoke or blow up after running over or being rammed by 5 cars.

[Skeve613]

Realistically the tank should just crush cars without making them instantly explode and throw a 60-plus-ton vehicle around like they do in-game. This would have required Rockstar to put effort into creating various flattened car models, however, which would not have been as easy as just triggering another explosion effect. Honestly though, running over panicking civilian cars or suicidal cop cruisers shouldn't be my number one cause of death in the Rhino.

[Hunter]

I did take down a jet with a tank earlier today actually:

 

 

Not a great pilot (messed up his/her angles), but they were good enough to use the cannons.

Edited May 5, 2016 by Icantthinkofonew

[Ultrasonicwave]

I wish they made the tank more resistant to RPGs and sticky bombs, because (from a video I watched about the tank nerf) it only takes 4 of these explosives to destroy a tank. That makes it underpowered IMO. Instead they should make the cannons have a longer delay in between shots.

Edited May 5, 2016 by Ultrasonicwave

[Nutduster]

The tank nerf was necessary but somewhat overdone. They could bump its armor up by about 50% from current state and I'd be happy. And as others have said, it would be nice if explosions from cars you run over were less ruinous. God help you if you drive a tank around with a wanted level - the cops will cripple you pretty fast.

 

Still, the people who say tanks are useless must be really terrible in them. It's still a moderately-armored weapon with what amounts to an infinite-ammo RPG. I rarely break mine out but when I do, I get plenty of kills.

[Cubanoking99]

I'm an OG player since last gen Ps3/Xbox360 and the tank used to over-powered fun.

 

I would prefer the tank to have more damage resistance, IMO the insurgent with sticky bombs is a better choice.

 

Rhino is still a fun vehicle, worth the cost.

[REXX]

Tanks used to be one of Freeroam's most feared vehicles. I really think the nerf was a stupid idea. Now it is on the verge of being pointless outside of missions. I still think it should be the most well armored vehicle in the game.

[Death Rains From Above]

Seeing as how I often still mess around in a Rhino whilst in FR, I can say that the armor nerf isn't much of an issue.

 

With the wealth of anti-armor weaponry in Online, it is completely impractical to attack in the wide open. Even worse with the Homo Launcher's ability to lock onto ground vehicles. The best thing to do, in terms of increasing a Rhino's longetivity, is to use the environment to one's advantage.

 

My only significant issue with the Rhino is that it causes vehicles to blow up if I do so much as barely make contact. I can't even count how many idiotic cops have kamikazed into me.

 

"WHAT PART OF STOP DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!!?!!?!!?"

 

"STOP THE F**KING VEHICLE!!!"

 

-Dumba** cops who tried to ram my Tank and died as a result. Morons.

[Hunter]

One thing they could do is buff the tank and the RPG - players on the ground could still deal with tanks if they used a few well placed RPGs; meanwhile the more BS weapons wouldn't end it so quickly (homing launchers, jets, etc.).

 

I do think the tank deserves a little buff anyway. Its situation is nowhere near as dire as the poor, poor Savage, but it's still a little neglected.

[Datguy8925]

The best armor you can give the Rhino is your own situational awareness.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

The best armor you can give the Rhino is your own situational awareness.

kinda if you got that the tank is amazing to use

One thing they could do is buff the tank and the RPG - players on the ground could still deal with tanks if they used a few well placed RPGs; meanwhile the more BS weapons wouldn't end it so quickly (homing launchers, jets, etc.).

 

I do think the tank deserves a little buff anyway. Its situation is nowhere near as dire as the poor, poor Savage, but it's still a little neglected.

the homing launcher isnt that much a problem if you are in a tank and hide beyond corners

and just buffing the tank because the jet needs a nerf is akward logic if you ask me

[MeisterJazz]

Why not just add a new tank? May I suggest an M1 Abrams? We've gotten new jets, attack choppers and other armed vehicles, so why not a new tank???

 

Features:Massive durability(2013 pre-update)

 

Anti Air Gun

 

2nd player machine gun with slight explosive rounds.

[YaDoesntHaveToCallMeRay]

 

It's not logical for an insurgent to have better armour than a tank.

 

But the tank doesn't have windows made of paper that you can shoot the driver through, in my opinion blowing up insurgents when on foot is not the way to defend against them, it is better to kill the occupants with bullets preferably from a minigun.

 

The insurgent has high armour and is the only multi seat vehicle which can take a few slaps from a tank and even multiple jet passes yet still give you a chance to get away with your VIP organization or friends or even alone without having to deal with other multi seat vehicles that take 2 explosive hits to destroy from guys on foot and if it's a tank or a jet you might as well be in a kuruma.

 

 

I take out occupants out with a special carbine very reliably.

[interfreak]

The tank was nerfed for a good reason - it could easily dominate lobbies before the armoured vehicles existed, or easy access to military jets/helicopters and 'lock on' weaponry such as the homing launcher. Yes the Lazer could deal with it, but you'd have to drive halfway across the map to get it - and even then (long before 'cops turn a blind eye' was a thing), you'd stand a good chance of being taken out before you got out of the base.

 

In those days it got so bad that people would deliberately ram their PV's into a tank so the person in the tank would get a BS warning, Rockstar patched this however.

 

However since the advent of armoured vehicles and more powerful, manoeuvrable (and much easier to access) attack aircraft, the tank's domination has been completely diminished, to the point that it is pretty much a standing joke in the community.

 

The Hydra is really the new tank - easy to access, overly powerful and a griefers delight. What makes it worse is that it can reach multiple players in a short amount of time, it can 'hide' on top of buildings or yachts - it's a super mobile and resilient killing machine in the right hands. It's also relatively hard to take down, unless you're a good sniper, or the pilot is not skilled enough to dodge the homing launcher. And even if it gets damaged, a new replacement is a short parachute away.

 

Other people in Hydras (or Lazers) are usually the biggest threat to 'jet griefers', but a lot of the time once the battle is won, they turn into griefers as well...and so the cycle begins again.

 

I wouldn't mind in this regard, if the tank once again became the beast it originally was meant to be. Give it better armour, similar to the Insurgent. Give it a longer range cannon. Give it a turret that can fire straight up. This might then mean the beginning of the end for the Hydra's dominance, or at least help to level the playing field.

 

For those on the ground, the tactics for taking out or dealing with the tank would not change too much. Stay well away from it if you don't want to be a victim, snipe/rocket it from a distance or lay down proximity mines in it's path if necessary.

 

The main thing is that it would pose a real threat to those in jets, a threat that doesn't really exist at the moment.

Edited May 5, 2016 by interfreak

[Death Rains From Above]

Why not just add a new tank? May I suggest an M1 Abrams? We've gotten new jets, attack choppers and other armed vehicles, so why not a new tank???

 

Features:Massive durability(2013 pre-update)

 

Anti Air Gun

 

2nd player machine gun with slight explosive rounds.

Would've preferred if the Rhino was in the form of the M1 Abrams. Instead we got a Leopard 2A4 lookalike. Doesn't really bother me though, as German tanks are still pretty badass.

 

On another note, I'd love for R* to bring back the APC from TBOGT. I used to have quite a lot of fun in that thing back in the day. If I find that Warstock in V/O ever carries the APC (BTR-80 form preferred), I'd gladly drop a few mil to get my hands on this.