[PC] Why are jobs unbalanced.

[FilipCRO]

Every competetive job that requires firing a gun, be it a deathmatch, adversary mode, LTS, is unbalanced in the PC version.

Take the new Inch by Inch adv. mode. It is impossible for KB/M users to beat the gamepad players. Literally.

 

Its because the game connects the gamepad users with KB/M users and then sh*t happens. KB/M start calling you "cheater", "scrub", "aimbot noob" , "noob" and what not, because you kill them right away. I myself am using a gamepad because this game is made for it and it`s much more responsive to play with a gamepad, be it driving, flying, or just running around. But the aforementioned problem is almost game breaking. Gamepad players should play only with gamepad players, and kb/m players only with kb/m players.

 

Why hasnt Rockstar predicted this and done something about it ? Share your opinions on this matter.

[P4DR0N3]

Probably because this game was more focused on consoles when it was created. The move to PC is most likely just a port from console. By the time your gamepad is an industry standard like the controller is for a console the next version of the game will be out. Just make sure to make feature requests of R* if you want them to consider it.

[Hunter]

I don't play on PC, but even I can see how this is stupid lol. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

[FlacidJack]

Competitive? ha! I use the new 2018 MLGPRO hosted-style auto-aim controller, I have no competition, bruh.

[FlacidJack]

I don't play on PC, but even I can see how this is stupid lol. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

because you can go from the K&M to the controller as you wish. If they changed that, how would someone playing with a controller on PC write a message in the chat?

 

It's simply not a competitive game.

[oleg_aka_djmeg]

i'd rather have that not being true when i have an insurgent scumbag going at me full speed.

[Furry_Monkey]

Gamepad players should play only with gamepad players, and kb/m players only with kb/m players.

 

I never game on PC so I have to ask - does it automatically make controller players use auto aim, and KB&M players use free aim? Is that what you mean?

 

I have to ask because I've *always* been told by PC gamers that KB&M gaming is far superior to controller gaming.

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I play with a gamepad on PC, and I couldn't honestly give two f*cks what other players think or feel about that. You have the option to use one too; if you don't want to or refuse to, that's their problem, not mine.

[FlacidJack]

 

Gamepad players should play only with gamepad players, and kb/m players only with kb/m players.

 

I never game on PC so I have to ask - does it automatically make controller players use auto aim, and KB&M players use free aim? Is that what you mean?

 

I have to ask because I've *always* been told by PC gamers that KB&M gaming is far superior to controller gaming.

I should let someone else give the full answer but for starters you can choose auto or free aim with a K&M too, but I use a PS4 controller & free aim so I have no idea how auto-aim with a mouse works.

[Furry_Monkey]

 

 

Gamepad players should play only with gamepad players, and kb/m players only with kb/m players.

I never game on PC so I have to ask - does it automatically make controller players use auto aim, and KB&M players use free aim? Is that what you mean?

 

I have to ask because I've *always* been told by PC gamers that KB&M gaming is far superior to controller gaming.

I should let someone else give the full answer but for starters you can choose auto or free aim with a K&M too, but I use a PS4 controller & free aim so I have no idea how auto-aim with a mouse works.

 

 

Thanks - I didn't expect it to force an aim type, dependant on what you're using to play with. It's not as common but you can play console with a keyboard & mouse as well (as I'm sure you know), and even some hybrid concoctions (like SplitFish, for example).

 

Unless people with different aim modes are being put in the same jobs then I have no idea what this thread is about then, as it flies in the face of every single PC gamer that has ever made a comment on the subject to me.

[SoDank_ItPainsMe]

 

 

 

Gamepad players should play only with gamepad players, and kb/m players only with kb/m players.

I never game on PC so I have to ask - does it automatically make controller players use auto aim, and KB&M players use free aim? Is that what you mean?

 

I have to ask because I've *always* been told by PC gamers that KB&M gaming is far superior to controller gaming.

I should let someone else give the full answer but for starters you can choose auto or free aim with a K&M too, but I use a PS4 controller & free aim so I have no idea how auto-aim with a mouse works.

 

 

Thanks - I didn't expect it to force an aim type, dependant on what you're using to play with. It's not as common but you can play console with a keyboard & mouse as well (as I'm sure you know), and even some hybrid concoctions (like SplitFish, for example).

 

Unless people with different aim modes are being put in the same jobs then I have no idea what this thread is about then, as it flies in the face of every single PC gamer that has ever made a comment on the subject to me.

 

 

There is no auto aim/assisted aim that works with mouse/kb on PC in any way, you only get aim assist if you select Free Aim - Assisted (in which case you are matched with players using Free Aim) or Assisted Aim - Partial or Assisted Aim - Full. (even if you play in Assisted Aim - Full sessions, you do not get aim assist with a mouse/kb only a controller)

 

On PC Free Aim - Assisted and Free Aim players are segregated from the others in free mode and jobs. OP is just ignorant of the setting in my opinion.

 

 

OP, if you are on the side of the fence that wants to use KB/M and not be raped by guys with controllers, go to story mode, settings>gamepad>free aim and then say goodbye to the controller lock on guys.

If you are on the controller side of the fence and playing in Assisted Aim session, the KB/M users complaining are to be ignored.

Edited May 4, 2016 by SoDank_ItPainsMe

[Khaisz]

I play with KB/M on PC, I have a Gamepad but I dislike using it because I am much more precis in aiming with a mouse.

 

Anyway, @OP You are just being pair'd up with KB/M scrubs that can't aim for life and that is why they resort to calling you people with Gamepads for Scrubs and so on..

 

 

 

 

Gamepad players should play only with gamepad players, and kb/m players only with kb/m players.

I never game on PC so I have to ask - does it automatically make controller players use auto aim, and KB&M players use free aim? Is that what you mean?

I have to ask because I've *always* been told by PC gamers that KB&M gaming is far superior to controller gaming.

I should let someone else give the full answer but for starters you can choose auto or free aim with a K&M too, but I use a PS4 controller & free aim so I have no idea how auto-aim with a mouse works.

 

I have never seen an option for Auto-Aim with KB/M outside acutal Aim-Bot programs..

So despite play with KB/M I can't answer this.

 

But I will tell Furry why Mouse is superior to gamepad, (Well from my POW atleast), That is because I can react and turn around to where I'm getting shot from or where a person in a car is about to appear from much faster then.

Take for example if a person shows up from behind offradar and shoots against you while you are running on the ground after just killing someone else, I can within a second execute a roll do a 180 and fire back, With a Gamepad, I assume you can do that aswell, but probably not as fast.

[Furry_Monkey]

 

I play with KB/M on PC, I have a Gamepad but I dislike using it because I am much more precis in aiming with a mouse.

 

Anyway, @OP You are just being pair'd up with KB/M scrubs that can't aim for life and that is why they resort to calling you people with Gamepads for Scrubs and so on..

 

 

 

 

Gamepad players should play only with gamepad players, and kb/m players only with kb/m players.

I never game on PC so I have to ask - does it automatically make controller players use auto aim, and KB&M players use free aim? Is that what you mean?

 

I have to ask because I've *always* been told by PC gamers that KB&M gaming is far superior to controller gaming.

I should let someone else give the full answer but for starters you can choose auto or free aim with a K&M too, but I use a PS4 controller & free aim so I have no idea how auto-aim with a mouse works.

 

I have never seen an option for Auto-Aim with KB/M outside acutal Aim-Bot programs..

So despite play with KB/M I can't answer this.

 

 

But I will tell Furry why Mouse is superior to gamepad, (Well from my POW atleast), That is because I can react and turn around to where I'm getting shot from or where a person in a car is about to appear from much faster then.

Take for example if a person shows up from behind offradar and shoots against you while you are running on the ground after just killing someone else, I can within a second execute a roll do a 180 and fire back, With a Gamepad, I assume you can do that aswell, but probably not as fast.

 

Thanks but as I said people having been telling me that for years. I don't need to hear it again

 

I was just asking why the OP was saying the opposite, but it's been answered now.

[FlacidJack]

 

 

 

Gamepad players should play only with gamepad players, and kb/m players only with kb/m players.

 

I never game on PC so I have to ask - does it automatically make controller players use auto aim, and KB&M players use free aim? Is that what you mean?

 

I have to ask because I've *always* been told by PC gamers that KB&M gaming is far superior to controller gaming.

I should let someone else give the full answer but for starters you can choose auto or free aim with a K&M too, but I use a PS4 controller & free aim so I have no idea how auto-aim with a mouse works.

 

Thanks - I didn't expect it to force an aim type, dependant on what you're using to play with. It's not as common but you can play console with a keyboard & mouse as well (as I'm sure you know), and even some hybrid concoctions (like SplitFish, for example).

 

Unless people with different aim modes are being put in the same jobs then I have no idea what this thread is about then, as it flies in the face of every single PC gamer that has ever made a comment on the subject to me.

oops sorry! Others just said there is no auto aim with K&M. I assume they're right.

 

Not really sure either, as SoDank said, setting free aim as his preference might help the OP.

[Non Funkable Token]

In free aim the k/m users have the advantage. Those who call everyone a cheater should stick there.

[kringled]

The situation described by the OP is partly the fault of the game, by making it unreasonably annoying to deliberately change aim setting (yet easy to unintentionally change it by say accepting a heist invite), but mostly the fault of those particular kb/m players for not paying attention to their aim settings. I'm purely kb/m, I'll play co-op jobs in aim assist but not pvp.

[FilipCRO]

 

 

I play with KB/M on PC, I have a Gamepad but I dislike using it because I am much more precis in aiming with a mouse.

 

Anyway, @OP You are just being pair'd up with KB/M scrubs that can't aim for life and that is why they resort to calling you people with Gamepads for Scrubs and so on..

 

 

 

 

Gamepad players should play only with gamepad players, and kb/m players only with kb/m players.

I never game on PC so I have to ask - does it automatically make controller players use auto aim, and KB&M players use free aim? Is that what you mean?

 

I have to ask because I've *always* been told by PC gamers that KB&M gaming is far superior to controller gaming.

I should let someone else give the full answer but for starters you can choose auto or free aim with a K&M too, but I use a PS4 controller & free aim so I have no idea how auto-aim with a mouse works.

 

I have never seen an option for Auto-Aim with KB/M outside acutal Aim-Bot programs..

So despite play with KB/M I can't answer this.

 

 

But I will tell Furry why Mouse is superior to gamepad, (Well from my POW atleast), That is because I can react and turn around to where I'm getting shot from or where a person in a car is about to appear from much faster then.

Take for example if a person shows up from behind offradar and shoots against you while you are running on the ground after just killing someone else, I can within a second execute a roll do a 180 and fire back, With a Gamepad, I assume you can do that aswell, but probably not as fast.

 

Thanks but as I said people having been telling me that for years. I don't need to hear it again

 

I was just asking why the OP was saying the opposite, but it's been answered now.

 

 

The good thing is , I have now noticed that the Aim preference has effect on jobs. So, If you play in Free aim or Free aim -assissted, there is no aimlock for controller users.

But there are too many people that only play with K&M in Assissted Aim lobbies, and then they insult you and accuse you of cheating when you kill them using your gamepad.

 

Rockstar should have given us the possibility to change the aim preference in Online, not just in singleplayer.

 

 

I was saying that, in this game (and other games that rely on driving, flying), gamepad is far superior to KB/M, it`s more responsive when your race, drive, fly etc..

Shooting is a different story. Mouse is more precise as always when shooting, but thats it. I only use my mouse when sniping while moving my character with the left thumbstick on my gamepad

 

 

 

 

Take for example if a person shows up from behind offradar and shoots against you while you are running on the ground after just killing someone else, I can within a second execute a roll do a 180 and fire back, With a Gamepad, I assume you can do that aswell, but probably not as fast.

 

You can do that with a gamepad as well, you just need to raise your sensitivity. If you have the more expensive gamepad called Xbox One controller, then you have even more precise thumbsticks than on other gamepads.

Edited May 4, 2016 by FilipCRO

[Dwnld]

Jobs are fine, learn to play.

[Xiled]

lol

[Crystal3lf]

You're just getting put with sh*t players. Any reasonably decent KB+M user will rape the sh*t out of a controller user even with auto-aim. I regularly switch between free-aim and assisted aim lobbies when one of my friend who uses a controller invites me to one, as soon as I get into a DM/war with a controller user it's the other way around and they call KB+M users cheaters.

 

Seriously, I can spin my camera round 1000 degrees before you can move your camera 10 degrees with a controller. There is no dead-zone on my mouse click, or keyboard key, unlike when you use a trigger on a controller to aim.

 

 

I myself am using a gamepad because this game is made for it and it`s much more responsive to play with a gamepad, be it driving, flying, or just running around.

I understand if you like to use a controller, but what you said is completely wrong. Someone with a decent KB+M will have far, far higher precision, and way better response times than a controller user could ever dream of.

 

 

On PC Free Aim - Assisted and Free Aim players are segregated from the others in free mode and jobs. OP is just ignorant of the setting in my opinion.

^^^

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

they can buy a controller or die

realy...though im new to pc to me it seems obvious that the only advantage of keyboard and mouse users is that such a setup is handy for in first person shooters and maybe a few fighting games, some few strategy games and probably a few others

 

further then that, yea....pc gamers....it takes more skill to use a keyboard since you got to know youre buttons and you have many more buttons then on a controller.... but it has no advantage whatsover when playing most games, such as gta 5

[FilipCRO]

You're just getting put with sh*t players. Any reasonably decent KB+M user will rape the sh*t out of a controller user even with auto-aim. I regularly switch between free-aim and assisted aim lobbies when one of my friend who uses a controller invites me to one, as soon as I get into a DM/war with a controller user it's the other way around and they call KB+M users cheaters.

 

Seriously, I can spin my camera round 1000 degrees before you can move your camera 10 degrees with a controller. There is no dead-zone on my mouse click, or keyboard key, unlike when you use a trigger on a controller to aim.

 

I myself am using a gamepad because this game is made for it and it`s much more responsive to play with a gamepad, be it driving, flying, or just running around.

I understand if you like to use a controller, but what you said is completely wrong. Someone with a decent KB+M will have far, far higher precision, and way better response times than a controller user could ever dream of.

 

Read again what I wrote in the quoted post and my next post after that. I was not talking about shooting!

 

Shooting = better with mouse, what you said.

Driving, racing, running, especially flying = more responsive with gamepad. Fact.

 

If you dont understand now, then I dont know what to say.

 

Also, in Inch by inch adv. mode, KB/M users have no chance against gamepad users, and then they insult you, trashtalk in the chat, you should see that really. Those people should not play in Assissted Aim session. I explain that to them, they cal me "noob", "learn to play" bullsh*t etc etc.

 

Also, KB/M players that get killed many times by gamepad players like to say : "Learn to play". Why is that ? Why wouldn`t I play with a controller lol. The game community really can be toxic as hell

Edited May 4, 2016 by FilipCRO

[Koger]

They're not unbalanced. I've been killing gamepad players since release. Stop complaining just because you're bad. Git gud and all that...

[Crystal3lf]

Shooting = better with mouse, what you said.

Driving, racing, running, especially flying = more responsive with gamepad. Fact.

I spend as much time shooting on foot as I do in vehicles. And controllers are still no where near as responsive as KB+M, you're either using the wrong word, or you don't know how to use a KB+M. Maybe driving with a controller you have slightly more control over the acceleration/braking, but that is all, and that is pushing it. If you really want more control over something on keyboard you can tap the button you need to instead of holding it down.

 

You should read what I wrote, perhaps look up some words in the dictionary.

 

 

Someone with a decent KB+M will have far, far higher precision, and way better response times than a controller user could ever dream of.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Crystal3lf

[FilipCRO]

They're not unbalanced. I've been killing gamepad players since release. Stop complaining just because you're bad. Git gud and all that...

 

No, you are wrong. They are unbalanced because there is no Aim preference option in Online, only in singleplayer. And then, a lot of KB/M players start crying when we own them in our Asissted Aim lobbies. And then I get reported for "autoaiming"....I mean, what the hell?

[SoDank_ItPainsMe]

 

They're not unbalanced. I've been killing gamepad players since release. Stop complaining just because you're bad. Git gud and all that...

 

No, you are wrong. They are unbalanced because there is no Aim preference option in Online, only in singleplayer. And then, a lot of KB/M players start crying when we own them in our Asissted Aim lobbies. And then I get reported for "autoaiming"....I mean, what the hell?

 

The setting affects online, online is entirely split up depending on that setting which can only be changed in single player for the obvious reason that changing it in a session would require you to leave the session.

 

Those KB/M players played themselves by going into assisted aim lobbies.

Edited May 4, 2016 by SoDank_ItPainsMe

[Crystal3lf]

No, you are wrong. They are unbalanced because there is no Aim preference option in Online, only in singleplayer.

 

OP, if you are on the side of the fence that wants to use KB/M and not be raped by guys with controllers, go to story mode, settings>gamepad>free aim and then say goodbye to the controller lock on guys.

If you are on the controller side of the fence and playing in Assisted Aim session, the KB/M users complaining are to be ignored.

You should git gud like KogerOnControls said. Change your settings to Assisted Aim and stop complaining, I doubt you will though.

[FilipCRO]

 

Shooting = better with mouse, what you said.

Driving, racing, running, especially flying = more responsive with gamepad. Fact.

I spend as much time shooting on foot as I do in vehicles. And controllers are still no where near as responsive as KB+M, you're either using the wrong word, or you don't know how to use a KB+M. Maybe driving with a controller you have slightly more control over the acceleration/braking, but that is all, and that is pushing it. If you really want more control over something on keyboard you can tap the button you need to instead of holding it down.

 

 

 

You were the first one that did not read, so you started to write your master race nonsense. It looks to me that you dont know how to use properly a gamepad

Replace "more responsive" (as I said) with "much better and easier".

 

 

 

Someone with a decent KB+M will have far, far higher precision, and way better response times than a controller user could ever dream of.

 

^^ Only when shooting, other words PvP.

Everything else, same or better with a gamepad. Especially driving, acceleration, steering. Everybody knows that. Best race players with the best Win/Loss ratio always use a controller.

 

 

They're not unbalanced. I've been killing gamepad players since release. Stop complaining just because you're bad. Git gud and all that...

 

No, you are wrong. They are unbalanced because there is no Aim preference option in Online, only in singleplayer. And then, a lot of KB/M players start crying when we own them in our Asissted Aim lobbies. And then I get reported for "autoaiming"....I mean, what the hell?

 

The setting affects online, online is entirely split up depending on that setting which can only be changed in single player for the obvious reason that changing it in a session would require you to leave the session.

 

Those KB/M players played themselves by going into assisted aim lobbies.

 

 

This ^^ This is my point. And then people say that I should "learn to play".

 

No, you are wrong. They are unbalanced because there is no Aim preference option in Online, only in singleplayer.

OP, if you are on the side of the fence that wants to use KB/M and not be raped by guys with controllers, go to story mode, settings>gamepad>free aim and then say goodbye to the controller lock on guys.

If you are on the controller side of the fence and playing in Assisted Aim session, the KB/M users complaining are to be ignored.

You should git gud like KogerOnControls said. Change your settings to Assisted Aim and stop complaining, I doubt you will though.

 

 

Reported for flaming, "git gud" and that nonsense. If you had high enough IQ and if you actually read my thread, instead of spilling your salt here, you would know that I always play in Assissted aim lobbies

Edited May 4, 2016 by FilipCRO

[Crystal3lf]

This ^^ This is my point. And then people say that I should "learn to play".

Yes you should learn to play without auto-aiming. If that's all you can do then stay in the auto aim lobby, otherwise switch to free aim and get annihilated by keyboard users.

[puredorian]

Jesus Christ that holywar, no need for the stupid arguments, everyone will have their opinion.

The fact of the matter is, they're both good options, kb/m gives you much more freedom and advanced camera movement, making the gunplay look somewhat competetive, while controller is fun to use if you prefer simplicity and smoothness of expirience.

 

To OP, it's not the game fault, that majority of players are stupid enough not to look for aiming settings in menu, so ignore all the BS in the chat and move on.

 

As far as the concept goes, you change aiming settings to Assisted Aim and game will no longer throw you to different aiming options, you host jobs with that aiming, and occasionly, when accepting different invite you'll get warning message about different aiming type.

Only idiots will complain about that, because they're ignoring the warning message, so it's only them to blame anyway.