Vicious R1 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) I own nothing but fast bikes and do nothing but kill on the bikes. My go to 3 are #1 Akuma, #2 Double T, #3 Bati. I don't ride the Hak due to it's sh*tty handling but if I wanted to go as fast as I could that would be my #4. Edited May 1, 2016 by Vicious R1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 The best motorcycle overall is the Bati, the other bikes except the Double T are still good choices though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furry_Monkey Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The best motorcycle overall is... There isn't one. They all have strengths, but they also have weaknesses. I bet you my console I could beat you from the airport to the beach in a race - you on your Bati and me on my Ruffian. I'll even go as far as to say I'd have a 30 second wait at the end before you caught me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkRayquaza99 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I conquer on my Akuma. Very fun speeding around in it in free roam, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewtech Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) I honestly think there's very little between the top four and it's all preference. I got the Hacka for it's beasty straight line momentum, great wheelies, and the fact it looks big and bulky. It's done me proud on all but 1 of the 22 time trials! Edited May 2, 2016 by dewtech_2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whywontyoulisten Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The sound of the Hakuchou and Akuma really grates, to the point of actually hurting my ears, so I'm stuck with the Bati, although the Ruffian is my favourite. An honourable mention goes to the Vader, as that was the first motorbike I started playing with in GTAO...finally managed to get a 4-exhaust variant with Racing Blue stock wheels from the last race glitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The best motorcycle overall is... There isn't one. They all have strengths, but they also have weaknesses. I bet you my console I could beat you from the airport to the beach in a race - you on your Bati and me on my Ruffian. I'll even go as far as to say I'd have a 30 second wait at the end before you caught me up. Lmao I've been stunting and racing on this game since it got released, what makes you so much better than me that you'll have a 30 second wait at the end before I get caught up to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furry_Monkey Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The best motorcycle overall is... There isn't one. They all have strengths, but they also have weaknesses. I bet you my console I could beat you from the airport to the beach in a race - you on your Bati and me on my Ruffian. I'll even go as far as to say I'd have a 30 second wait at the end before you caught me up. Lmao I've been stunting and racing on this game since it got released, what makes you so much better than me that you'll have a 30 second wait at the end before I get caught up to you? Because there's a stunt that will shave off over 30 seconds from the fastest possible route on the road, and the Bati cannot do it. I don't just make this sh*t up, you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calmgamer Posted May 2, 2016 Author Share Posted May 2, 2016 This is a race I want to see +slasher vs +furry_monkey. Actually I want to record it. Would you guys like to set up a session with me? I'd love to watch this challenge go down Slasher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 The best motorcycle overall is... There isn't one. They all have strengths, but they also have weaknesses. I bet you my console I could beat you from the airport to the beach in a race - you on your Bati and me on my Ruffian. I'll even go as far as to say I'd have a 30 second wait at the end before you caught me up. Lmao I've been stunting and racing on this game since it got released, what makes you so much better than me that you'll have a 30 second wait at the end before I get caught up to you? Because there's a stunt that will shave off over 30 seconds from the fastest possible route on the road, and the Bati cannot do it. I don't just make this sh*t up, you know Well most time trials and races are dominated by the Bati since It has a combination of everything, which makes it the best motorcylce overall. I don't just make this sh*t up either I do love the Ruffian though, it's really enjoyable to use for stunting and freeroaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furry_Monkey Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) This is a race I want to see +slasher vs +furry_monkey. Actually I want to record it. Would you guys like to set up a session with me? I'd love to watch this challenge go down Lol - it's not a race and it's not gonna happen. I was proving a point to him that in old "horses for courses" style, there is no 1 bike to rule them all. You pick the one that has strengths that you desire, and weaknesses that don't bother you, and that's *your* best bike. It's not *the* best bike. The best motorcycle overall is... There isn't one. They all have strengths, but they also have weaknesses. I bet you my console I could beat you from the airport to the beach in a race - you on your Bati and me on my Ruffian. I'll even go as far as to say I'd have a 30 second wait at the end before you caught me up. Lmao I've been stunting and racing on this game since it got released, what makes you so much better than me that you'll have a 30 second wait at the end before I get caught up to you? Because there's a stunt that will shave off over 30 seconds from the fastest possible route on the road, and the Bati cannot do it. I don't just make this sh*t up, you know Well most time trials and races are dominated by the Bati since It has a combination of everything, which makes it the best motorcylce overall. I don't just make this sh*t up either I do love the Ruffian though, it's really enjoyable to use for stunting and freeroaming. Sorry, but my point stands. The example I gave you is a 100% factual situation where the Bati wouldn't just be beaten, but it would be humiliated, and by a mere Ruffian. There is no best bike and saying that there is just makes it look like you know less I know you do. Edited May 2, 2016 by Furry_Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 This is a race I want to see +slasher vs +furry_monkey. Actually I want to record it. Would you guys like to set up a session with me? I'd love to watch this challenge go down I would love to see this too, it's a shame he's all talk and no action. (He could post a video of his "Bati humiliator" stunt/parkour/point to point race so I can prove to him it's possible with the Bati) In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. I know nothing though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ RASPY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolatingBox Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I love all things with 2 wheels in this game. Everything is damn fun to ride for any number of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furry_Monkey Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) This is a race I want to see +slasher vs +furry_monkey. Actually I want to record it. Would you guys like to set up a session with me? I'd love to watch this challenge go down I would love to see this too, it's a shame he's all talk and no action. (He could post a video of his "Bati humiliator" stunt/parkour/point to point race so I can prove to him it's possible with the Bati) In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. I know nothing though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Here's a link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/733346-stunt-practise-races-for-motorbikes/?p=1066074514 I've done it once in 2 years on the Bati, and that was because I got a rare bit of lift from the kerb. The Ruffian will do it almost every time the traffic doesn't get in the way. And you actually just completely agreed with me when you said... In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. Yes - it's your opinion. In my opinion the Bati is weak when it comes to using it as a practical stunt bike in free roam as it fails stunts a lot more often than the Ruffian, and I'm not just talking about that 1 link above. So in my opinion, the Ruffian is a better bike, but that's because it suits me and the way I play. There is no best bike. There is only the best bike for you. Edit: Incidentally, I started a thread about this on gtastunting.net and pretty much had a unanimous "No", when I asked if the Bati could do that jump. I think the guys on there have some experience Edited May 2, 2016 by Furry_Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) This is a race I want to see +slasher vs +furry_monkey. Actually I want to record it. Would you guys like to set up a session with me? I'd love to watch this challenge go down I would love to see this too, it's a shame he's all talk and no action. (He could post a video of his "Bati humiliator" stunt/parkour/point to point race so I can prove to him it's possible with the Bati)In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. I know nothing though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Here's a link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/733346-stunt-practise-races-for-motorbikes/?p=1066074514 I've done it once in 2 years on the Bati, and that was because I got a rare bit of lift from the kerb. The Ruffian will do it almost every time the traffic doesn't get in the way. And you actually just completely agreed with me when you said... In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. Yes - it's your opinion. In my opinion the Bati is weak when it comes to using it as a practical stunt bike in free roam as it fails stunts a lot more often than the Ruffian, and I'm not just talking about that 1 link above. So in my opinion, the Ruffian is a better bike, but that's because it suits me and the way I play. There is no best bike. There is only the best bike for you. I only said "in my opinion" so I don't trigger more people yeah I completely agree with youGonna watch Game of Thrones first then I'll probably replace this text with a video of me doing that stunt with the Bati Edit: I'm on GTAStunting too, I used to stunt with Vanilla, Slayer, Feym and Buja but then I took a break from stunting Edited May 2, 2016 by Slasher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furry_Monkey Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) This is a race I want to see +slasher vs +furry_monkey. Actually I want to record it. Would you guys like to set up a session with me? I'd love to watch this challenge go down I would love to see this too, it's a shame he's all talk and no action. (He could post a video of his "Bati humiliator" stunt/parkour/point to point race so I can prove to him it's possible with the Bati) In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. I know nothing though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Here's a link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/733346-stunt-practise-races-for-motorbikes/?p=1066074514 I've done it once in 2 years on the Bati, and that was because I got a rare bit of lift from the kerb. The Ruffian will do it almost every time the traffic doesn't get in the way. And you actually just completely agreed with me when you said... In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. Yes - it's your opinion. In my opinion the Bati is weak when it comes to using it as a practical stunt bike in free roam as it fails stunts a lot more often than the Ruffian, and I'm not just talking about that 1 link above. So in my opinion, the Ruffian is a better bike, but that's because it suits me and the way I play. There is no best bike. There is only the best bike for you. I only said "in my opinion" so I don't trigger more people yeah I completely agree with you Gonna watch Game of Thrones first then I'll probably replace this text with a video of me doing that stunt with the Bati Edit: I'm on GTAStunting too, I used to stunt with Vanilla, Feym and Buja but then I took a break from stunting It was Vanilla who specifically said that the Bati won't bump that type of barrier. I don't know the reason behind why, but I've had such little luck with it that I consider it almost as unreliable as impossible (basically pointless). That said, I'm gonna try it myself now as there are some things I picked up from stunting with the Akuma over the past month or two, and they may help. If so I'll eat humble pie on the "can't do it", but my original statement about horses for course will still stand. Edit: Okay, I'll eat that pie. I just managed it a couple of times on a Bati. I do know things now that I didn't know when I failed with it so many times before, and I think that's definitely helped a lot. But in fairness it took me over 3 minutes to do it on the Bati, whereas I did it first time on the Ruffian (about 10-15 failed attempts for the Bati). I was also able to do it 20 times on the run with the Ruffian (I stopped there, rather than failed No.21), but couldn't do it even twice on the run with the Bati. So yes, I take back the "can't do it" statement, but definitely still stand by the Ruffian being vastly better at this jump (hell, even the Akuma can do it most of the time!) So, back to the original point - there is no best bike. Edited May 2, 2016 by Furry_Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechanicMammal Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 I prefer riding my Akuma I feel it is more balanced and less reliant on pulling the front wheel up. But if you wheelie the Bati and Hakkachu are faster in top speed and acceleration. I did drag tests with the bikes my self over a mile. Without wheelies the Akuma was fastest followed by the Hakkachou then the Bati. But if you exploit the wheelie boost you find the hakkachou is fastest followed by the Bati with the Akuma being slowest in this scenario. But I think they all can be competitive on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) This is a race I want to see +slasher vs +furry_monkey. Actually I want to record it. Would you guys like to set up a session with me? I'd love to watch this challenge go down I would love to see this too, it's a shame he's all talk and no action. (He could post a video of his "Bati humiliator" stunt/parkour/point to point race so I can prove to him it's possible with the Bati) In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. I know nothing though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Here's a link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/733346-stunt-practise-races-for-motorbikes/?p=1066074514 I've done it once in 2 years on the Bati, and that was because I got a rare bit of lift from the kerb. The Ruffian will do it almost every time the traffic doesn't get in the way. And you actually just completely agreed with me when you said... In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. Yes - it's your opinion. In my opinion the Bati is weak when it comes to using it as a practical stunt bike in free roam as it fails stunts a lot more often than the Ruffian, and I'm not just talking about that 1 link above. So in my opinion, the Ruffian is a better bike, but that's because it suits me and the way I play. There is no best bike. There is only the best bike for you. I only said "in my opinion" so I don't trigger more people yeah I completely agree with you Gonna watch Game of Thrones first then I'll probably replace this text with a video of me doing that stunt with the Bati Edit: I'm on GTAStunting too, I used to stunt with Vanilla, Feym and Buja but then I took a break from stunting It was Vanilla who specifically said that the Bati won't bump that type of barrier. I don't know the reason behind why, but I've had such little luck with it that I consider it almost as unreliable as impossible (basically pointless). That said, I'm gonna try it myself now as there are some things I picked up from stunting with the Akuma over the past month or two, and they may help. If so I'll eat humble pie on the "can't do it", but my original statement about horses for course will still stand. Lmao you claimed there's a 100% chance you'll beat me but you take that back and then you try to act like you know more than me even though you haven't even tried it out properly. The reason I'm so confident about all this is because I take action and try it myself instead of just asking others. I really don't get why there's such a big deal to say there's an overall best motorcycle though. Anyway, my statement will still stand so I guess this isn't going anywhere. https://youtu.be/KVLnSTunDL8 Fairly consistent bumps, hit them 9/10 times because of traffic getting in the way. Edited May 2, 2016 by Slasher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furry_Monkey Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) This is a race I want to see +slasher vs +furry_monkey. Actually I want to record it. Would you guys like to set up a session with me? I'd love to watch this challenge go down I would love to see this too, it's a shame he's all talk and no action. (He could post a video of his "Bati humiliator" stunt/parkour/point to point race so I can prove to him it's possible with the Bati) In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. I know nothing though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Here's a link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/733346-stunt-practise-races-for-motorbikes/?p=1066074514 I've done it once in 2 years on the Bati, and that was because I got a rare bit of lift from the kerb. The Ruffian will do it almost every time the traffic doesn't get in the way. And you actually just completely agreed with me when you said... In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. Yes - it's your opinion. In my opinion the Bati is weak when it comes to using it as a practical stunt bike in free roam as it fails stunts a lot more often than the Ruffian, and I'm not just talking about that 1 link above. So in my opinion, the Ruffian is a better bike, but that's because it suits me and the way I play. There is no best bike. There is only the best bike for you. I only said "in my opinion" so I don't trigger more people yeah I completely agree with you Gonna watch Game of Thrones first then I'll probably replace this text with a video of me doing that stunt with the Bati Edit: I'm on GTAStunting too, I used to stunt with Vanilla, Feym and Buja but then I took a break from stunting It was Vanilla who specifically said that the Bati won't bump that type of barrier. I don't know the reason behind why, but I've had such little luck with it that I consider it almost as unreliable as impossible (basically pointless). That said, I'm gonna try it myself now as there are some things I picked up from stunting with the Akuma over the past month or two, and they may help. If so I'll eat humble pie on the "can't do it", but my original statement about horses for course will still stand. Lmao you claimed there's a 100% chance you'll beat me but you take that back and then you try to act like you know more than me even though you haven't even tried it out properly. The reason I'm so confident about all this is because I take action and try it myself instead of just asking others. I really don't get why there's such a big deal to say there's an overall best motorcycle though. Anyway, my statement will still stand so I guess this isn't going anywhere. https://youtu.be/KVLnSTunDL8 You're actually one of those bellend type stunters, aren't you. This is all because you didn't like being corrected, and now you're stretching everything you can possibly find to try and make it seem like you've achieved some type of victory, when you actually started all this by saying a dumb, incorrect statement that anyone with even a vague knowledge of this game (or any other game, really) would see to be blinkered and naive. The fact that you felt the need to post a video of you doing it, after I'd already said it was possible, shows you for what you are. There is no best bike, but there are idiotic wannabe morons who believe there are. Edited May 2, 2016 by Furry_Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 This is a race I want to see +slasher vs +furry_monkey. Actually I want to record it. Would you guys like to set up a session with me? I'd love to watch this challenge go down I would love to see this too, it's a shame he's all talk and no action. (He could post a video of his "Bati humiliator" stunt/parkour/point to point race so I can prove to him it's possible with the Bati) In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. I know nothing though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Here's a link. http://gtaforums.com/topic/733346-stunt-practise-races-for-motorbikes/?p=1066074514 I've done it once in 2 years on the Bati, and that was because I got a rare bit of lift from the kerb. The Ruffian will do it almost every time the traffic doesn't get in the way. And you actually just completely agreed with me when you said... In my opinion OP the Bati has the most strengths and least weaknesses compared to the other bikes so that's why I see it as the best overall motorcycle. Yes - it's your opinion. In my opinion the Bati is weak when it comes to using it as a practical stunt bike in free roam as it fails stunts a lot more often than the Ruffian, and I'm not just talking about that 1 link above. So in my opinion, the Ruffian is a better bike, but that's because it suits me and the way I play. There is no best bike. There is only the best bike for you. I only said "in my opinion" so I don't trigger more people yeah I completely agree with you Gonna watch Game of Thrones first then I'll probably replace this text with a video of me doing that stunt with the Bati Edit: I'm on GTAStunting too, I used to stunt with Vanilla, Feym and Buja but then I took a break from stunting It was Vanilla who specifically said that the Bati won't bump that type of barrier. I don't know the reason behind why, but I've had such little luck with it that I consider it almost as unreliable as impossible (basically pointless). That said, I'm gonna try it myself now as there are some things I picked up from stunting with the Akuma over the past month or two, and they may help. If so I'll eat humble pie on the "can't do it", but my original statement about horses for course will still stand. Lmao you claimed there's a 100% chance you'll beat me but you take that back and then you try to act like you know more than me even though you haven't even tried it out properly. The reason I'm so confident about all this is because I take action and try it myself instead of just asking others. I really don't get why there's such a big deal to say there's an overall best motorcycle though. Anyway, my statement will still stand so I guess this isn't going anywhere. https://youtu.be/KVLnSTunDL8 You're actually one of those bellend type stunters, aren't you. This is all because you didn't like being corrected, and now you're stretching everything you can possibly find to try and make it seem like you've achieved some type of victory, when you actually started all this by saying a dumb, incorrect statement that anyone with even a vague knowledge of this game (or any other game, really) would see to be blinkered and naive. The fact that you felt the need to post a video of you doing it, after I'd already said it was possible, shows you for what you are. There is no best bike, but there are idiotic wannabe morons who believe there are. kek ViolatingBox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_RUSTYRAT_39 Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Ruffian or Bati 801 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyFerret Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Bati for everyday/general use. Fully upgraded, nothing and no one, has caught me on it yet so far. Excellent maneuverability and turns on a dime; easily wins the Longest Wheelie challenge. I keep it in my primary garage under my apartment, parked in the primary spot just when you get off the elevator. Akuma for stunts and 'fun time'. Akuma can easily beat the Bati on the Longest Jump challenge. Go out to Sandy Shores and start near Trevor's house, race towards the hotel, there is a ramp to jump over the hotel. The Bati barely makes it, just clearing 300 - 400 feet. The Akuma can clear 600 - 700 feet off that jump. I guess its just a lighter bike or something, it seems to get better air time and seems to hang in the air longer. Akuma is also the most fun of just about all the bikes, more maneuverable then the Bati and handles off-road like a champ. The Akuma was the acclaimed bike for taking on the Time Trial for climbing Chiliad the fastest. Hakuchou for speed. I don't really use this bike for anything other then competing in the Highest Speed challenge. Its maneuverability is horrific. Does not corner very well, in fact it corners very wide, while the Bati and Akuma are sharp and on a dime with minimal loss in speed. The Hakuchou can top 145mph on the speed challenge, but only if you can hold a wheelie long enough on a downhill slope. The problem with it though is if you're doing it in traffic, you have no maneuverability if a vehicle gets in your path. Sanchez, for general fun. I have a Livery Sanchez that I stole off the top of Chiliad, keep it in my Route 68 garage. While the Akuma can handle off-road fairly well, the Sanchez is still a fun bike to race around off road. I don't really use it for much anything else, and hence its sitting in my only 6 car garage, off Route 68 outside Sandy Shores, parked next to my Injection and my Dubsta 6x6. I tend to bring those three out more often when R* does the 'snow' in the winter. Oh and a Western Daemon, I keep one just for a little 'chopper bike' fun. Edited May 2, 2016 by CrazyFerret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolatingBox Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Enduro is best for wheelie event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechanicMammal Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Oh yeah, we already have someone who does this kind of thing regularly... Yeah his channel is awesome and has influenced my vehicle choices in every class if anyone has interest in racing I highly recommend watching his YouTube vid's. Mervz789 and Furry_Monkey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuling2000 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 What happened with the Dinka Thrust? It was the fastest(topspeed) bike on PS3 but on PS4 it's slow and useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Vooodu. Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) As a person who uses bikes exclusively for free roam combat for nearly 2 years and owns every bike in the game... I can easily say a lot of bikes have their uses. Some bikes are better at handling.. some better at taking bumps/smashes.. some better at quick bursts of accel. .some are just fast and some can stunt better. For the most a bike with high top speed won't help much in the heat of battle but will help in escapes. Alot of people will say bati is the best, but a bati has jerky handling even at lower speeds and can barely take a bump. If i get into a 1 vs one with a bati rider and im on my Ruffian. I know full well i can't catch the Bati.. but i know the bati can't win a dog fight on the roads against a Ruffian. Because the ruffian has more control and is more stable at lower speeds. And the ruffian can take bumps much better then the bati. I won't go much in to detail because il be here all day.. But knowing the bikes strengths and using it to its fullest is the best way to use them. Buy every bike.. use them for a bit. Push it to its limits and see what it can and can't do. There maybe no actual BEST bike. But theres is the best bike for the job. Edited May 9, 2016 by HulioG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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