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VIP work needs a rebalance imo


The Wandering Hunter
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Do you think VIP work needs a change?  

108 members have voted

  1. 1. Piracy prevention

    • Fix the passive exploits
      56
    • Better attack vehicles
      18
    • More cover for attackers
      26
    • Make it easier for attackers isw
      20
    • Make it easier for defenders isw
      7
    • Perfect as is
      25
  2. 2. Hostile takeover and asset recovery

    • Need a rebalance
      24
    • They're fine
      84
  3. 3. Exec search

    • It's way too easy for a lone VIP to hide and win- change it somehow
      18
    • It's ok
      88
    • Other issue with it
      2


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Lol, I don't have limited bandwidth. Neither does he - he has AT&T uverse. It's the game servers not being able to handle those cops. There's more cops during asset recovery than during the Pac standard finale.

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Lol, I don't have limited bandwidth. Neither does he - he has AT&T uverse. It's the game servers not being able to handle those cops. There's more cops during asset recovery than during the Pac standard finale.

The game does not have any servers(which handle in-game gameplay)...so what you are saying is again...literally impossible.

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The game does not have any servers(which handle in-game gameplay)...so what you are saying is again...literally impossible.

 

 

 

Then perhaps that's the problem. Maybe if it had some servers, that wouldn't be happening.

 

At any rate, it's not her connection. Unless you're calling her a liar for some reason.

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Whatever bro, peer to peer connection. You know what I f*cking meant. Please stop trying to act like you are better and smarter than everyone. It's f*cking annoying as hell. So no buddy, it's NOT impossible.

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The game does not have any servers(which handle in-game gameplay)...so what you are saying is again...literally impossible.

 

 

 

Then perhaps that's the problem. Maybe if it had some servers, that wouldn't be happening.

 

At any rate, it's not her connection. Unless you're calling her a liar for some reason.

 

I am not calling anyone a liar...agreed with Servers, both wouldn't have a problem, and it is a shame that GTA Online as a game that released in f*cking 2013 still has no dedicated servers.

Luckily the future is looking bright:

http://www.rockstargames.com/careers/position/9fd4d015/rockstar-north

 

At any rate, it's not her connection.

 

Again, it is either her or her friends connection, as I said above, one of both, everything else is literally impossible.

Is it good that GTA Online heavily relies on User connection?

No, not at all.

Is it still her connection?

Yes.

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It's not my connection if the game cannot f*cking handle the HUNDREDS of cops. I can play Star Wars aka the game with also sh*tty servers but I don't lag on there at all??? I don't lag on call of duty at all? Calm down Rockstar employee wannabe, it's not my connection. I have a download speed of 1GB, 0 packet loss and my ping is 2.

 

It's not always about my connection - it's about how the game servers cannot handle that many cops. When did this honestly become about my internet?

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Only real issue I see with VIP work is the passive abusers in Piracy Prevention. Other than that I think it is fine and my favorite way to make money and RP at the moment.

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Is it still her connection?

Yes.

 

 

So you are calling her a liar then? Or is she just hallucinating and imagining that she has a good connection?

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Is it still her connection?

Yes.

 

 

So you are calling her a liar then? Or is she just hallucinating and imagining that she has a good connection?

I must be on some really hardcore drugs.

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Is it still her connection?

Yes.

 

 

So you are calling her a liar then? Or is she just hallucinating and imagining that she has a good connection?

 

Allright, let me put it this way.

 

Then I have a magical connection which can somehow handle a 5 Star chase accross the highway with 30 Players in the Lobby, maybe I am a magician after all.

 

Anyway, not a point I would like to discuss further.

I'll post a video of my 5 Star chase later just as a matter of proof.

Please stop discussing this subject now.

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shadowoperative

If someone is a vip in a session it should disable getting into hydras/lazers and ruining events.

 

#doit

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Allright, let me put it this way.

 

 

 

Then I have a magical connection which can somehow handle a 5 Star chase accross the highway with 30 Players in the Lobby, maybe I am a magician after all.

 

Anyway, not a point I would like to discuss further.

I'll post a video of my 5 Star chase later just as a matter of proof.

Please stop discussing this subject now.

 

You're the one who's been keeping this going; a little less BS, thank you very much.

 

At any rate, you'd have to do exactly the same mode she did (Hostile Takeover); not just any old chase.

 

On top of that, one video does not constitute a fact. Anyone with common sense knows that. I have 155 days played; what is your 10 minute video taken out of that? It's nothing.

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^ In my case one video would proof that the game and my connection in fact CAN handle that VIP Event.

 

As I said if one player in the lobby has a bad connection it will lag, but until that is not the case: No Lag.

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Don't say you're done with this discussion if you're going to tell us to drop the point, lol. Here's a difference and I'm gonna break it down for you:

 

In Pac Standard, there isn't a bunch of cops swarming you like a damn animal. You won't be auto shot by a pistol trying to get to the vehicle.

 

In a 5 star chase, again, there still won't be as many cops glitching the lobby.

 

In asset recovery, cops are literally all over the place at the end of the road, the middle and cops up above trying to take you out.

 

You don't live in America, so I wouldn't expect you to have a good connection but you simply cannot assume I have a sh*tty connection when I know for a fact I don't. Hell, I had sh*t connection before I moved to Florida and I'll be the first one to admit it. It's not my connection that's making the game glitch - it's the never ending coding of cops. The servers simply cannot handle that many cops period. It can't even handle 30 players without splitting, so what makes you think cops won't mess it up?

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Don't say you're done with this discussion if you're going to tell us to drop the point, lol. Here's a difference and I'm gonna break it down for you:

 

In Pac Standard, there isn't a bunch of cops swarming you like a damn animal. You won't be auto shot by a pistol trying to get to the vehicle.

 

In a 5 star chase, again, there still won't be as many cops glitching the lobby.

 

In asset recovery, cops are literally all over the place at the end of the road, the middle and cops up above trying to take you out.

 

You don't live in America, so I wouldn't expect you to have a good connection but you simply cannot assume I have a sh*tty connection when I know for a fact I don't. Hell, I had sh*t connection before I moved to Florida and I'll be the first one to admit it. It's not my connection that's making the game glitch - it's the never ending coding of cops. The servers simply cannot handle that many cops period. It can't even handle 30 players without splitting, so what makes you think cops won't mess it up?

You again mention " servers" which DO NOT EXIST.(for this kind of stuff)

 

Not sure what is up with your connection, but my connection is as I said a Magical one in that case, I am a magician as I said.

 

Simple, if I post a video with me doing asset recovery(or hostile take over doesn't matter) and the cops do not lag out, it is the ultimate proof that:

A: I am a magician

B: The game CAN handle the amount of cops.

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^ In my case one video would proof that the game and my connection in fact CAN handle that VIP Event.

 

As I said if one player in the lobby has a bad connection it will lag, but until that is not the case: No Lag.

Way to miss the point. It proves your connection happened to handle it for the duration of your piddly little video.

 

Come back when you've got a 155 day long video; then you have some solid proof. Until then, why not stop following people from thread to thread, spouting BS and throwing accusations?

 

I'm done here anyway. Sorry Alisha, but I think BS levels this high can cause cancer.

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Cops don't lag, genius. The game just ends up being glitchy. Please stop trying to act like you're right about everything and like I have to agree with what you say, lol. The game cannot handle that many cops.

 

There's too many f*cking cops during asset recovery, asshat.

 

I broke it down for you but yet, you are still assuming it's my internet when I know for a fact it isn't.

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^ In my case one video would proof that the game and my connection in fact CAN handle that VIP Event.

 

As I said if one player in the lobby has a bad connection it will lag, but until that is not the case: No Lag.

Way to miss the point. It proves your connection happened to handle it for the duration of your piddly little video.

 

Come back when you've got a 155 day long video; then you have some solid proof. Until then, why not stop following people from thread to thread, spouting BS and throwing accusations?

 

I'm done here anyway. Sorry Alisha, but I think BS levels this high can cause cancer.

She was talking about THIS Event, so yes I don't need a 155 dag video to prove that the game can handle that amount of cops, it is like saying I would need to do a math test every f*cking day of my life simply because there is the possibility I will f*ck up some day.

Your argumentation is flawed.

 

End result:

Hostile Takeover features an ammount of cops the game can handle.

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No dick face, the game can't handle that many cops and I really wish you would stop spewing your nonsense every time I post in a thread. For f*cks sake. My post wasn't about my connection at all, it was about how the game turns unstable once you do asset recovery because of all the goddam cops. You turned this into my connection being sh*t. f*ck off.

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^I am done, I'll post a video, the video is the ultimate counter to your statement, if you still will not accept than you are either ignorant or a troll.

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It doesn't matter if you post a video with the game NOT lagging, the f*cking mode is glitchy as f*ck. Your video won't counter my argument. I don't care about your retarded ass video.

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It doesn't matter if you post a video with the game NOT lagging, the f*cking mode is glitchy as f*ck. Your video won't counter my argument. I don't care about your retarded ass video.

Lmao, such a flawed logic.

If the mode would be glitchy, then it would also be glitchy for me right?

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Just because YOU aren't having issues doesn't mean me and other people DON'T have issues buddy. Only logic flawed here is yours.

 

You think that because me and others are having issues and you don't, that we're lying about it being glitchy and that it's our connections.

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Nutduster

Haven't read the thread in its entirety, so forgive me if any of these are repeats. Mostly I think VIP work is pretty good. For a first attempt at a new type of experience it's solid. Here are the things I would change to improve it:

 

- Hostile Takeover: nothing, it's fine. Just one thing: is the "steal the tank" mission a Hostile Takeover? If so, it's frustratingly hard - that tank is so fragile and god help you if any other player comes after you with an attack helicopter or jet. Otherwise, I wouldn't change this one. It's not hard to plan your route and use your VIP access to free Buzzards to make an easy delivery most of the time, and the money is good.

 

- Executive Search: pretty exploitable if you know what you're doing (for the VIP I mean). I'd like to see a mechanic somewhat like Hunt the Beast, where the VIP pops up on radar every minute -probably just a few seconds is fine, but enough to give hunters a hint if they're looking in the right place, and to expose VIPs on rooftops and other hiding spots. Give them an incentive to move around.

 

- Asset Recovery: tone down the cops a little (seriously, they're ridiculous - why is the police response to stealing a few cars so much worse than the Pac Standard finale?), and make it pay more. This is the hardest VIP job and it pays the least.

 

- Piracy Prevention: respawns for attackers are pretty bad, you should spawn more spread out from each other, and ideally out of sniper/rendering range. One big tweak would add a lot to this, I think: all potential attackers should be off-radar to anyone on the yacht, until they get within a certain distance of it. That would cut down on spawn killing (even if they don't fix the spawns) and would give attackers a much better chance to launch a successful sneak attack. As it stands, when I attack a boat on Piracy Prevention, I'll ONLY do it off-radar; and if it fails and my off-radar expires, I just leave. Not worth it, defenders have a huge advantage when you're on radar.

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Just because YOU aren't having issues doesn't mean me and other people DON'T have issues buddy. Only logic flawed here is yours.

 

You think that because me and others are having issues and you don't, that we're lying about it being glitchy and that it's our connections.

If you are having this issue and I am not this either means:

-> It is your specific copy of the game

-> It is your console/PC

-> It is your connection

 

There is no other way around as simple as that... it cannot be "the game"...

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Just because YOU aren't having issues doesn't mean me and other people DON'T have issues buddy. Only logic flawed here is yours.

 

You think that because me and others are having issues and you don't, that we're lying about it being glitchy and that it's our connections.

If you are having this issue and I am not this either means:

-> It is your specific copy of the game

-> It is your console/PC

-> It is your connection

 

There is no other way around as simple as that... it cannot be "the game"...

The game is broken in a lot of aspects. But I'm not going to argue and make points about it. I'm honestly not in the mood for you to try and once again make it seem like I don't know what I'm talking about / try to blame things on either my connection or someone else's.

 

Again, just because glitches don't affect you doesn't mean it's not affecting me or others on this forum / people who play the game.

 

So yes Xenox, it is the game and the coding behind it.

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shadowoperative

It's not the coding or it would affect EVERYONE.

 

I rarely have issues of any kind.

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Again, just because you're not having issues doesn't mean others aren't having issues.

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shadowoperative

Again, just because you're not having issues doesn't mean others aren't having issues.

Agreed.

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Again, just because you're not having issues doesn't mean others aren't having issues.

That is true, the game has many fundamental issues which EVERYONE experiences, such as the broken Matchmaking and long loading times.

Those issues are because of badly coded features.

 

BUT, if I am not experimcing the issue but you are, it cannot be the coding of the actual game.

It must be somewhere along the way.

 

I am not denieng you are having this issue.

All I am saying is that I and many others are not having it.

Anyway, enough discussion about that.

 

Overall after playing asset recovery again I have to agree, the amount of.Cops is too many, not because they lag or glitch out(for me), but because they simply cause too much chaos when a car is stationary and players are gathering... also they spawnkill as f*ck...

 

So in the end I am for less cops in Asset Recovery, I don't see it as a high priority issue though.

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