The current state of GTA Online

[rlk232]

People can say what they want about The Benz; but he was a workaholic and got things done. You think the two houser boys kill themselves like that? Nope. They're already rich as hell and don't care, which is why we're getting so little now. Being a workaholic isn't always a bad thing, someone has to make sure things get done when the only other options are sheer idiots.

[shadowoperative]

People can say what they want about The Benz; but he was a workaholic and got things done. You think the two houser boys kill themselves like that? Nope. They're already rich as hell and don't care, which is why we're getting so little now. Being a workaholic isn't always a bad thing, someone has to make sure things get done when the only other options are sheer idiots.

How long have you personally known all 3?

[fear_the_nut70]

It's good to see forum members finally opened their eyes.

 

This game is bad and it won't get any better. It's 3 years in, you're delusional if you think it'll get better. Look back at the updates we've had, we've been prisoners of the moment for all of them (excluding Heists, but I don't consider that an update). Rockstar sold us some reggie. lol

 

8 mllion people around christmas would disagree with you. I guess Rock Star fooled a whole lot of folks.

Edited May 4, 2016 by fear_the_nut70

[rlk232]

Lol, read between the lines, my man. I'm sure it's all coincidence, right?

[fear_the_nut70]

 

People can say what they want about The Benz; but he was a workaholic and got things done. You think the two houser boys kill themselves like that? Nope. They're already rich as hell and don't care, which is why we're getting so little now. Being a workaholic isn't always a bad thing, someone has to make sure things get done when the only other options are sheer idiots.

How long have you personally known all 3?

 

 

This is how simple some people are--they think the updates were better while Benz was actively working there but have gone down hill since his sabatical and departure. Therefore, not only was he responsible for everything (the creative team and programmers get no credit mind you), but now that he is gone and suing, nothing good will ever be released again. Mind you, none of these people have any information of behind the scenes stuff at Rock Star, but that also doesn't matter.

[Mr_Zombly]

 

It's good to see forum members finally opened their eyes.

 

This game is bad and it won't get any better. It's 3 years in, you're delusional if you think it'll get better. Look back at the updates we've had, we've been prisoners of the moment for all of them (excluding Heists, but I don't consider that an update). Rockstar sold us some reggie. lol

Lol. I think the game is epic and I am satisfied.

 

See what I mean Mr. Zombly...

 

Yes I see, there are people who say odd things like that, but not everyone who dislikes certain aspects of the game hates it, it's always good to talk about the things that could be improved in the game, on the off chance that it's picked up by rockstar employees, if there is something wrong, it should be pointed out, the game is one of the best games I've ever played, in fact it's my most played as of right now, but it's not perfect, and there's always room for improvement, please don't tell me you think it's perfect...

[ADropInTheOcean]

As far as I feel tempted to believe in Benzie during this entire legal dispute, it's kinda pointless by this point. Indeed, it does not seem like a coincidence that updates started sucking after one of the major creative directors left the studio, but it's really not fair to martirize either of the two sides. What matters is, the staggering success of GTA Online microtransactions and the progressive decrease in updates quality implies that the future of GTA might not be so broght.

[fear_the_nut70]

As far as I feel tempted to believe in Benzie during this entire legal dispute, it's kinda pointless by this point. Indeed, it does not seem like a coincidence that updates started sucking after one of the major creative directors left the studio, but it's really not fair to martirize either of the two sides. What matters is, the staggering success of GTA Online microtransactions and the progressive decrease in updates quality implies that the future of GTA might not be so brog

 

This guy is the a classic example of what I posted above.

 

Making sweeping conclusions with little to no actual information (just conjecture from a series of possibly unrelated events).

 

It could also be that a massive DLC has been in the works for some time and could be released soon, but from your perspective, the future of GTA for seemingly forever is grim.

 

Okay dude.

Edited May 4, 2016 by fear_the_nut70

[JuanG12]

 

It's good to see forum members finally opened their eyes.

 

This game is bad and it won't get any better. It's 3 years in, you're delusional if you think it'll get better. Look back at the updates we've had, we've been prisoners of the moment for all of them (excluding Heists, but I don't consider that an update). Rockstar sold us some reggie. lol

8 mllion people around christmas would disagree with you. I guess Rock Star fooled a whole lot of folks.

I mean, they fooled you with those numbers.

 

Take-Two gave us those numbers, it doesn't mean they're accurate. They could've said 50 million people stuck around if they wanted to. Companies do this all the time.

[am30]

 

Lots of features that are supposed to be part of the game such as Heists and Freemode events.

GTA Online simply wasn't planned for so they didn't have time to develop it.

What's the point to play the game after you reach rank 120 ? Nothing.

Let's not forget that they have stopped creating contact missions and focused on Adversary modes.

What's the point of Adversary modes for Veterans ? Nothing.

Unless of course you like playing the game.

 

True, some people are easily amused by the constant repetition of simple actions.

Edited May 4, 2016 by am30

[helresa]

One thing that could be happening is that there are some major updates in the pipeline, but due to development issues they may be running late, so the adversary modes and cars are easy things to put out as filler until other things are ready.

 

The are a number of things like Bahama Mamas & the Split Sides Club which are there in next Gen/PC waiting to be used... We also know that there has been some top level changes at R* that may have lead to a hole in schedule and the need for quick filler... I also think that as some point they will get a handle on the netcode and the server security and the list of jobs advertised point to them at least trying to hire people.

 

I still have a blast online especially with the crew... and I have faith that R* will pull things around... Long Live GTA Online....

[shadowoperative]

 

 

Lots of features that are supposed to be part of the game such as Heists and Freemode events.

GTA Online simply wasn't planned for so they didn't have time to develop it.

What's the point to play the game after you reach rank 120 ? Nothing.

Let's not forget that they have stopped creating contact missions and focused on Adversary modes.

What's the point of Adversary modes for Veterans ? Nothing.

Unless of course you like playing the game.

True, some people are easily amused by the constant repetition of simple actions.

Yes like thrusting my junk into a hot chick or slaughtering noobs.

 

And you thought I couldn't outsmart you...

 

Shameful.

[am30]

 

 

 

Lots of features that are supposed to be part of the game such as Heists and Freemode events.

GTA Online simply wasn't planned for so they didn't have time to develop it.

What's the point to play the game after you reach rank 120 ? Nothing.

Let's not forget that they have stopped creating contact missions and focused on Adversary modes.

What's the point of Adversary modes for Veterans ? Nothing.

Unless of course you like playing the game.

True, some people are easily amused by the constant repetition of simple actions.

Yes like thrusting my junk into a hot chick or slaughtering noobs.

 

And you thought I couldn't outsmart you...

 

Shameful.

 

 

You can't. A cooked chicken is the wrong type of "hot chick"....

[shadowoperative]

 

 

 

 

Lots of features that are supposed to be part of the game such as Heists and Freemode events.

GTA Online simply wasn't planned for so they didn't have time to develop it.

What's the point to play the game after you reach rank 120 ? Nothing.

Let's not forget that they have stopped creating contact missions and focused on Adversary modes.

What's the point of Adversary modes for Veterans ? Nothing.

Unless of course you like playing the game.

True, some people are easily amused by the constant repetition of simple actions.

Yes like thrusting my junk into a hot chick or slaughtering noobs.

 

And you thought I couldn't outsmart you...

 

Shameful.

 

You can't. A cooked chicken is the wrong type of "hot chick"....

Well...that would explain the blisters.

[fear_the_nut70]

 

 

It's good to see forum members finally opened their eyes.

 

This game is bad and it won't get any better. It's 3 years in, you're delusional if you think it'll get better. Look back at the updates we've had, we've been prisoners of the moment for all of them (excluding Heists, but I don't consider that an update). Rockstar sold us some reggie. lol

8 mllion people around christmas would disagree with you. I guess Rock Star fooled a whole lot of folks.

I mean, they fooled you with those numbers.

 

Take-Two gave us those numbers, it doesn't mean they're accurate. They could've said 50 million people stuck around if they wanted to. Companies do this all the time.

 

 

And the 1 billion dollars in sales the first weekend? $500 million in online sales? Have investors been defrauded? Are you about to break a big story here?

 

Okay dude. Just don't stand too close to the microwave in your special hat while making your hot pocket.

[EABetteBalterZen]

I voted 'No' and 'Worse'

Why? Adversary Modes and Modders - do I have to say more?

[Operation Paperclip]

 

 

 

It's good to see forum members finally opened their eyes.

 

This game is bad and it won't get any better. It's 3 years in, you're delusional if you think it'll get better. Look back at the updates we've had, we've been prisoners of the moment for all of them (excluding Heists, but I don't consider that an update). Rockstar sold us some reggie. lol

8 mllion people around christmas would disagree with you. I guess Rock Star fooled a whole lot of folks.

I mean, they fooled you with those numbers.

 

Take-Two gave us those numbers, it doesn't mean they're accurate. They could've said 50 million people stuck around if they wanted to. Companies do this all the time.

 

 

And the 1 billion dollars in sales the first weekend? $500 million in online sales? Have investors been defrauded? Are you about to break a big story here?

 

Okay dude. Just don't stand too close to the microwave in your special hat while making your hot pocket.

 

 

Rockstar have no legal obligation to report numbers that would paint a complete picture. An army of corporate lawyers will back their likely strategy to take some form of truth (ie 8 million players around Christmas) and leave out anything that suggests decline or inconsistency (ie how many players truly log in, day in day out, to online and what % of those contribute to Shark Card sales - such as average player spending and what % of players even spend on Cards in the first place).

 

500 million over 3 years is a good start I suppose, but let's put this in actual market context. Counterstrike is regularly hosting tournaments with really, really big payouts for winners and runners-up. The microtransaction store for weapon skins alone is absolutely crushing it from a profit standpoint. All of this should suggest to anyone with common sense that there is a titanic profit margin on a global scale for the Counterstrike brand, and that's not even considering the colossal revenue filtering in from companies fighting tooth and nail to sponsor tournaments, leagues, teams, and players.

 

Dota 2. Starcraft. LoL. Here's where we start putting real distance from any fairy tales Rockstar would have us believe about their online product. All of the aforementioned are among the world leaders in terms of global participation on a daily basis (with transparent figures to back those participation reports up), and are the gold standard - an objective reality - when defining competitive, worldwide appeal.

 

- #1 on Steam is held by 595,006 players playing Dota 2, right now - with a peak at 1.164 million.

 

- @ 9th, on Steam, we have Garry's Mod. Reporting almost 37k.

 

- @ 10th we see Arma 3 reporting 32k

 

- @ 11th is Warframe. Warframe. This title boasts 31.5k players at the moment.

 

- @ a respectable 12th we find Grand Theft Auto V coming in at 28.5k. Doesn't even say how many are playing the online component.

 

But let me guess - I'm sure you GTA Online apologists will scare up some 5 or 600k daily users from consoles right? Or I'm sure from those of us (myself included) who have installed the game directly from Rockstar Warehouse there's no doubt another 250k lurking, dedicated and happy, as hardcore daily customers.

 

The truth is closer to this: Rockstar has something here, no doubt, the $$$ doesn't lie - but it isn't telling the whole truth. Staying power, a platform for growth or innovation, and a global brand synonymous with worldwide online appeal marked by zillions of players playing daily are all things that cannot be confirmed or assumed by the vague figures that Rockstar or TT provide. All we have is the money made (500 million) and figures depicting a rather unimpressive 'daily player' base.

 

It's more likely that some very small percentage of dedicated players are spending obscene amounts of money on Shark Cards. And by small percentage, I mean a small percentage of the aforementioned already unimpressive daily player base.

 

No doubt Rockstar have been invited to the Online Gaming party to rub shoulders with the real titans, but for now they're probably serving drinks and in charge of valet parking.

 

Wake me when there's some real competitive infrastructure teeming in GTA's online title.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Operation Paperclip

[LL Cool L]

Why do people who "do not like gta online anymore" or "have stopped playing" always write the longest essays and have most to say?.... I dnt like Jason Derulo, I sure as hell dnt log onto his forum page and write essays about how I hate him....

 

How are u discussing stats, daily log ins and total players???? Bruh, its a bloody video game! not some financial spreadsheet

 

 

If you are not creative, this is not a game for you, again because you make your own fun....

Uncharted 4 is coming out this month and I love all the games, it is a linear story that u follow and dnt have much choice in, maybe this is the game for you guys....i will buy it and complete it but after I do, it will hardly get touched again

[Operation Paperclip]

Why do people who "do not like gta online anymore" or "have stopped playing" always write the longest essays and have most to say?.... I dnt like Jason Derulo, I sure as hell dnt log onto his forum page and write essays about how I hate him....

 

How are u discussing stats, daily log ins and total players???? Bruh, its a bloody video game! not some financial spreadsheet

 

 

If you are not creative, this is not a game for you, again because you make your own fun....

Uncharted 4 is coming out this month and I love all the games, it is a linear story that u follow and dnt have much choice in, maybe this is the game for you guys....i will buy it and complete it but after I do, it will hardly get touched again

 

I understand reading is difficult and tedious. Tip that state mandated prescription helmet of yours back a bit and you'll no doubt see, right there upon the marquee of this very thread, is the title, "The current state of GTA Online."

 

And in doing so with you, I have realized that figures relating to sales and daily players, all framed within the context of other online competitors and their successes, has absolutely no place in this discussion.

 

My apologies. And you're right - I suffer from a lack of creativity. I tried finger painting - I tried concert piano. The former gave me a chemical buzz + headache and the latter got me tasered by the f*cking police. I gave up, I admit it.

 

f*ck the police!

[fear_the_nut70]

Operation paperclip,

 

I have no idea why you think those other numbers are reliable Ior why someone wouldn't have an incentive to skew them), but this renders your whole post silly:

 

It's more likely that some very small percentage of dedicated players are spending obscene amounts of money on Shark Cards. And by small percentage, I mean a small percentage of the aforementioned already unimpressive daily player base.

 

They made over a billion dollars in the first weekend alone at about $60 a pop. This doesn't include subsequent sales, NG, PC, or shark card sales. That recently we found out the total for online was then another $500 mil, coupled with all of the DLC's tells you that even if Rock Star were exaggerating the numbers as you put it, a sh*tload of people are online regularly. That you think is 's a small percentage of people spending obscene amounts on shark cards, not only is that pure conjecture, it flies in the face of common sense (there is only so much to buy in this game, so it is unlikely that people would keep buying shark cards to acquire $50-$60 mill to sit in bank accounts they never use).

 

I don't know what you have against this game, and that's fine, that is your prerogative, but if you come on here spewing sh*t, you're gonna get smacked around. Take Two is a publicly traded company (traded under TTWO), which means specific details about their business operations are available to consumers. It is not likely that Rock Star could just make stuff up out of whole clothe as you suggest.

[ADropInTheOcean]

This guy is the a classic example of what I posted above.

 

Making sweeping conclusions with little to no actual information (just conjecture from a series of possibly unrelated events).

 

It could also be that a massive DLC has been in the works for some time and could be released soon, but from your perspective, the future of GTA for seemingly forever is grim.

 

Okay dude.

A "massive DLC" like heists? Because that one major update was in the works even before the game was released, and most updates until then were incredibly rich in content, especially in comparison to what we've been getting lately.

 

All I'm saying is that the pattern Rockstar has been showing isn't good at all for the future of GTA. I'm not taking it for granted that the entire series is doomed, but by this point it seems very likely that their old business model of offering a single player centered game with multiplayer as an added feature is not going to last for long. If the numbers don't speak by themselves then consider that, ever since 2013, they haven't announced a single new game and instead have just been milking GTA Online for all its worth, even passing it on to the next generation of consoles. Literally all Rockstar has provided since the release of Online is DLCs for Online and republishings of GTA V on different platforms so they can keep on pushing more DLCs for Online, the weapons and vehicles on the latest content updates haven't even been made available on singleplayer.

[rlk232]

Let's see what's coming out soon... new DLC for Fallout 4, new maps for Modern Warfare and Uncharted 4.

 

Yeah, Rockstar is really in a great position right now. Uhh no, they're about to have an exodus that makes the flow of immigrants who fled on Castro's taking power look like a true joke.

[shadowoperative]

Operation paperclip,

 

I have no idea why you think those other numbers are reliable Ior why someone wouldn't have an incentive to skew them), but this renders your whole post silly:

 

It's more likely that some very small percentage of dedicated players are spending obscene amounts of money on Shark Cards. And by small percentage, I mean a small percentage of the aforementioned already unimpressive daily player base.

 

They made over a billion dollars in the first weekend alone at about $60 a pop. This doesn't include subsequent sales, NG, PC, or shark card sales. That recently we found out the total for online was then another $500 mil, coupled with all of the DLC's tells you that even if Rock Star were exaggerating the numbers as you put it, a sh*tload of people are online regularly. That you think is 's a small percentage of people spending obscene amounts on shark cards, not only is that pure conjecture, it flies in the face of common sense (there is only so much to buy in this game, so it is unlikely that people would keep buying shark cards to acquire $50-$60 mill to sit in bank accounts they never use).

 

I don't know what you have against this game, and that's fine, that is your prerogative, but if you come on here spewing sh*t, you're gonna get smacked around. Take Two is a publicly traded company (traded under TTWO), which means specific details about their business operations are available to consumers. It is not likely that Rock Star could just make stuff up out of whole clothe as you suggest.

A billion in 3 days you say...

 

I thought the game was a failure???

[fear_the_nut70]

 

This guy is the a classic example of what I posted above.

 

Making sweeping conclusions with little to no actual information (just conjecture from a series of possibly unrelated events).

 

It could also be that a massive DLC has been in the works for some time and could be released soon, but from your perspective, the future of GTA for seemingly forever is grim.

 

Okay dude.

A "massive DLC" like heists? Because that one major update was in the works even before the game was released, and most updates until then were incredibly rich in content, especially in comparison to what we've been getting lately.

 

All I'm saying is that the pattern Rockstar has been showing isn't good at all for the future of GTA. I'm not taking it for granted that the entire series is doomed, but by this point it seems very likely that their old business model of offering a single player centered game with multiplayer as an added feature is not going to last for long. If the numbers don't speak by themselves then consider that, ever since 2013, they haven't announced a single new game and instead have just been milking GTA Online for all its worth, even passing it on to the next generation of consoles. Literally all Rockstar has provided since the release of Online is DLCs for Online and republishings of GTA V on different platforms so they can keep on pushing more DLCs for Online, the weapons and vehicles on the latest content updates haven't even been made available on singleplayer.

 

 

I have no intention of getting into a semantics battle with you about what qualifies as a "massive" DLC, whatever the hell that is. Rock Star provides more DLC than any other game in the history of gaming, at least as far as I am aware (if I am wrong, someone tell me who offers more). It matters little to me if it comes out all at once or little at time, it's total content that I'm looking at.

 

The rest of what you describe is a changing in the video game market place. We are seeing an industry wide shift to online gaming, much to the chagrin of some on here. So, it makes sense that you haven't heard much focus on SP and that a business model centered around SP may be a thing of the past. I really think as it relates to a new game, given how Rock Star always pushes the envelope on the size of their games, that people seriously don't appreciate all that goes into such an undertaking as they just impatiently demand more product. Are you aware that Take Two is appearing at E3 next month and is supposed to make an announcement about a new game (presumed to be be Red Dead 2)? If not, might want to at least wait until then and see what happens. I know it is hard, but try to be more patient. Things in this life often aren't going to happen on your time table. That's just a fact my man.

 

And I am no fan boy. I have lots of complaints about this game and have recently found myself playing it less and less. I too want more of GTA V. But I guess I just have a more balanced perspective on these things than many on these boards.

Let's see what's coming out soon... new DLC for Fallout 4, new maps for Modern Warfare and Uncharted 4.

 

Yeah, Rockstar is really in a great position right now. Uhh no, they're about to have an exodus that makes the flow of immigrants who fled on Castro's taking power look like a true joke.

 

Ha ha. I heard this about Fall Out 4 and then the Division. And still GTA stands.

 

I don't give two sh*ts about Modern Warfare or Unchartered 4. You do, go play them. GTA will still be here when you are finished with those inferior games. #beentheredonethat

[Operation Paperclip]

Operation paperclip,

 

 

1) They made over a billion dollars in the first weekend alone at about $60 a pop. This doesn't include subsequent sales, NG, PC, or shark card sales.

 

We were discussing the current state of GTA: Online. Try to stay on topic please or link the above position in some concrete fashion to the topic at hand, perhaps as I did with what I posted, by providing actual figures. It sold 60 million copies. Okay? How many of those are playing online? Daily? I provided numbers of daily players - you have not.

 

2) That recently we found out the total for online was then another $500 mil, coupled with all of the DLC's tells you that even if Rock Star were exaggerating the numbers as you put it, a sh*tload of people are online regularly.

 

Conjecture and profanity laced hyperbole? I know it looks like I'm falling asleep, but I'm truly engaged by everything you're putting forth here. Great stuff, can't wait to see how you back all of this reactionary, emotional nonsense up. Edge of my seat! Grab your inhaler and come back when you've really got it all sharpened up and ready to go!

 

3) That you think is 's a small percentage of people spending obscene amounts on shark cards ..

 

I didn't posit every idea as something that ought to be chiseled in stone, in full solemn witness of the United Nations. Just a guess - 'more than likely' being the operational phrase. Or do you have some concrete rebuttal revealing the majority of players online also purchase cards regularly? Moving on then!

 

4) I don't know what you have against this game, and that's fine, that is your prerogative, but if you come on here spewing sh*t, you're gonna get smacked around. Take Two is a publicly traded company (traded under TTWO), which means specific details about their business operations are available to consumers. It is not likely that Rock Star could just make stuff up out of whole clothe as you suggest.

 

Let me be clear here MISTER. Saying my 'sh*t' is being 'spewed' is quite enough! And and and THEN you go further still to THREATEN me by saying I shall be 'smacked around!!' I want you to know something, you brute: I am positively terrified of online confrontations, and words such as the ones of YOU have chosen to harm ME with have been established by a renowned board of certified specialists to trigger a cascading storm of negative energy upon my heart and soul (due to my multi-spectrum Autism diagnosis) !!

 

You WILL be hearing from my therapists and case handlers!

 

GOOD DAY. PERIOD.

[fear_the_nut70]

 

Operation paperclip,

 

 

1) They made over a billion dollars in the first weekend alone at about $60 a pop. This doesn't include subsequent sales, NG, PC, or shark card sales.

 

We were discussing the current state of GTA: Online. Try to stay on topic please or link the above position in some concrete fashion to the topic at hand, perhaps as I did with what I posted, by providing actual figures. It sold 60 million copies. Okay? How many of those are playing online? Daily? I provided numbers of daily players - you have not.

 

2) That recently we found out the total for online was then another $500 mil, coupled with all of the DLC's tells you that even if Rock Star were exaggerating the numbers as you put it, a sh*tload of people are online regularly.

 

Conjecture and profanity laced hyperbole? I know it looks like I'm falling asleep, but I'm truly engaged by everything you're putting forth here. Great stuff, can't wait to see how you back all of this reactionary, emotional nonsense up. Edge of my seat! Grab your inhaler and come back when you've really got it all sharpened up and ready to go!

 

3) That you think is 's a small percentage of people spending obscene amounts on shark cards ..

 

I didn't posit every idea as something that ought to be chiseled in stone, in full solemn witness of the United Nations. Just a guess - 'more than likely' being the operational phrase. Or do you have some concrete rebuttal revealing the majority of players online also purchase cards regularly? Moving on then!

 

4) I don't know what you have against this game, and that's fine, that is your prerogative, but if you come on here spewing sh*t, you're gonna get smacked around. Take Two is a publicly traded company (traded under TTWO), which means specific details about their business operations are available to consumers. It is not likely that Rock Star could just make stuff up out of whole clothe as you suggest.

 

Let me be clear here MISTER. Saying my 'sh*t' is being 'spewed' is quite enough! And and and THEN you go further still to THREATEN me by saying I shall be 'smacked around!!' I want you to know something, you brute: I am positively terrified of online confrontations, and words such as the ones of YOU have chosen to harm ME with have been established by a renowned board of certified specialists to trigger a cascading storm of negative energy upon my heart and soul (due to my multi-spectrum Autism diagnosis) !!

 

You WILL be hearing from my therapists and case handlers!

 

GOOD DAY. PERIOD.

 

 

Ok, put you down as cluelss troll. Your sarcasm isn't even clever or funny. Continue to spread your misinformation and misguided ideas to the other trolls that lap it up. I won't waste any more time trying to have a meaningful discussion with you. Oh, and please don't tell your mommy that I used that four letter word (the "s" one). I don't want to get in trouble.

Edited May 4, 2016 by fear_the_nut70

[XenoxX]

@paperclip Are you suggesting Rockstar/TakeTwo "faked" the number of 8 million players?

In that case... a big LMAO.

 

They HAVE legal obligation to state CORRECT numbers, especially in front of their investors.

It is allways in dubio pro reo, so if you come along with such staements you might as well back them up with substantial evidence.

 

Last November Rockstar Games reported 8 Million active players playing on all of their system, there is nothing to doubt about that number, it is very likely actualy.

 

Also last December was GTA Onlines most succesfull month in terms of Shark Card sale generated revenue, which is also probably resulting because of the immense (paying) player count.

 

Also your numbers are flawed, what you have to look at if you look at active players, is the number of players that logs on in the course of 2 weeks.

For GTA V on PC that is at the moment 1.1 Million players, you just look at the number of players that is CURRENTLY playing which is of no relevance at all.

 

http://steamspy.com/app/271590

Edited May 4, 2016 by XenoxX

[rlk232]

 

 

This guy is the a classic example of what I posted above.

 

Making sweeping conclusions with little to no actual information (just conjecture from a series of possibly unrelated events).

 

It could also be that a massive DLC has been in the works for some time and could be released soon, but from your perspective, the future of GTA for seemingly forever is grim.

 

Okay dude.

A "massive DLC" like heists? Because that one major update was in the works even before the game was released, and most updates until then were incredibly rich in content, especially in comparison to what we've been getting lately.

 

All I'm saying is that the pattern Rockstar has been showing isn't good at all for the future of GTA. I'm not taking it for granted that the entire series is doomed, but by this point it seems very likely that their old business model of offering a single player centered game with multiplayer as an added feature is not going to last for long. If the numbers don't speak by themselves then consider that, ever since 2013, they haven't announced a single new game and instead have just been milking GTA Online for all its worth, even passing it on to the next generation of consoles. Literally all Rockstar has provided since the release of Online is DLCs for Online and republishings of GTA V on different platforms so they can keep on pushing more DLCs for Online, the weapons and vehicles on the latest content updates haven't even been made available on singleplayer.

 

 

I have no intention of getting into a semantics battle with you about what qualifies as a "massive" DLC, whatever the hell that is. Rock Star provides more DLC than any other game in the history of gaming, at least as far as I am aware (if I am wrong, someone tell me who offers more). It matters little to me if it comes out all at once or little at time, it's total content that I'm looking at.

 

The rest of what you describe is a changing in the video game market place. We are seeing an industry wide shift to online gaming, much to the chagrin of some on here. So, it makes sense that you haven't heard much focus on SP and that a business model centered around SP may be a thing of the past. I really think as it relates to a new game, given how Rock Star always pushes the envelope on the size of their games, that people seriously don't appreciate all that goes into such an undertaking as they just impatiently demand more product. Are you aware that Take Two is appearing at E3 next month and is supposed to make an announcement about a new game (presumed to be be Red Dead 2)? If not, might want to at least wait until then and see what happens. I know it is hard, but try to be more patient. Things in this life often aren't going to happen on your time table. That's just a fact my man.

 

And I am no fan boy. I have lots of complaints about this game and have recently found myself playing it less and less. I too want more of GTA V. But I guess I just have a more balanced perspective on these things than many on these boards.

Let's see what's coming out soon... new DLC for Fallout 4, new maps for Modern Warfare and Uncharted 4.

 

Yeah, Rockstar is really in a great position right now. Uhh no, they're about to have an exodus that makes the flow of immigrants who fled on Castro's taking power look like a true joke.

 

Ha ha. I heard this about Fall Out 4 and then the Division. And still GTA stands.

 

I don't give two sh*ts about Modern Warfare or Unchartered 4. You do, go play them. GTA will still be here when you are finished with those inferior games. #beentheredonethat

 

 

While it is fun to ignore reality, doing so for too long will seriously harm you. You might already be at that point if you don't see the harm those releases will do. The player-base is already smaller than it used to be, but R* won't admit how much. You're going to ask how I know that, obviously. Reasoning by analogy, quite simple. They'd ABSOLUTELY advertise if the # of players had gone up or stayed the same, period. They're arrogant motherlovers, and like to brag when they can.

 

Moreover, 95% of my friends quitting this game in that span of time is not merely sheer coincidence, folks. You have to be tremendously naive to believe that.

 

Edited May 4, 2016 by rlk232

[XenoxX]

^Your "friends" are at no relevance for data purposes, what I provided was actual proof that GTA Onlines active player count is still at 1.1 Million on PC,(the platform with the least amount of sales and the most amount of hackers)

[ninjcarter30]

Nope this game pisses me off as soon as u exit your apartment some prick shoots you instantly but you cant even see them or anything but they can see you? Bit unfair!!