In And Out Week (April 29 - May 5): Double GTA$ & RP Playlist

[Pedinhuh]

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

R* is wasting their resources, time, disk space and RAM by adding these contents that most of players don't enjoy at all, when the game starts failing to work properly and bugs sgarts showing up, you will look at all those Adversary Modes sitting there, barely being used at all and you will wonder why didn't R* used that amount of RAM and space these AMs to actually deliver interesting content that atleast would be better received and enjoyed by the playerbase.

[Hunter]

^Exactly.

[Ruin]

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

R* is wasting their resources, time, disk space and RAM

 

These new modes don't take up HDD space in any substantial way and RAM has 0 to do with these modes. RAM is used for storing textures and graphics (shaders,etc) for immediate use while in-game.

Please don't use terminology you don't understand.

[XenoxX]

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

R* is wasting their resources, time, disk space and RAM by adding these contents that most of players don't enjoy at all, when the game starts failing to work properly and bugs sgarts showing up, you will look at all those Adversary Modes sitting there, barely being used at all and you will wonder why didn't R* used that amount of RAM and space these AMs to actually deliver interesting content that atleast would be better received and enjoyed by the playerbase.

lol, those modes take barely any disk space, they are "re-downloaded" every time they are launched.

That is why user made content, doesn't take any disk space as well.

 

Also RAM, is the temporary memory storage, doesn't have anything to do with disk space.

While they may be "wasting resources", I don't think these Adversary Modes take a lot of time to create to be honest....especially not the Capture esque ones.

 

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

R* is wasting their resources, time, disk space and RAM

 

These new modes don't take up HDD space in any substantial way and RAM has 0 to do with these modes. RAM is used for storing textures and graphics (shaders,etc) for immediate use while in-game.

Please don't use terminology you don't understand.

 

To be completely fair though, RAM isn't only used to store "textures and graphics", RAM is used for code as well, every value is stored in the Stack and most interchangeable variables in the Heap.

But overall you are correct, RAM is used for temporary memory storage, nothing to do with disk space at all.

Edited April 30, 2016 by XenoxX

[Pedinhuh]

 

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

R* is wasting their resources, time, disk space and RAM

These new modes don't take up HDD space in any substantial way and RAM has 0 to do with these modes. RAM is used for storing textures and graphics (shaders,etc) for immediate use while in-game.

Please don't use terminology you don't understand.

Seems like you understand this better than I do, then please enlighten me with this:

 

-If RAN and HDD are not being used at all to add these game modes then why Last Gen cannot get more of these stupid AMs?

 

Take into consideration that R* thenselves has said that if ANY more content were added to Last Gen the game would become unstable for those platforms.

[XenoxX]

 

 

I've said this before and I'll say it again:

R* is wasting their resources, time, disk space and RAM

These new modes don't take up HDD space in any substantial way and RAM has 0 to do with these modes. RAM is used for storing textures and graphics (shaders,etc) for immediate use while in-game.

Please don't use terminology you don't understand.

Seems like you understand this better than I do, then please enlighten me with this:

 

-If RAN and HDD are not being used at all to add these game modes then why Last Gen cannot get more of these stupid AMs?

 

Take into consideration that R* thenselves has said that if ANY more content were added to Last Gen the game would become unstable for those platforms.

 

Last Gen could handle Adversary Modes, but I assume R* would need to restrict them, since Last Gen cannot handle the complexity of said modes(well some of them).

Hell Last Gen cannot even handle passive mode...

What last gen cannot handle are new Vehicles, apartments etc. being added to the game.

Also it is important to mention that RAM is used, but RAM is only temporary.

Edited April 30, 2016 by XenoxX

[Ruin]

-If RAN and HDD are not being used at all to add these game modes then why Last Gen cannot get more of these stupid AMs?

 

In layman terms...

 

Because the stress of having to load these things in-game is enough to make the ps360 slow to a crawl. You have to remember that they are using 2004-2005 hardware trying to utilize 2013-2016 software, they make enough compromises as it is to get the game to be stable on LG, adding more operations for the system to make and calculate would result ina very unpleasant gaming experience for LG and potentially start bugging out the game.

 

You cannot expect a console from 2006 with extremely outdated specs to run the same as a console from 2013 (which is also pretty obsolete as well, but that's not the point now). It's not just graphic fidelity, it's what happens behind the scenes inside your console as well.

 

If you want more a more technical answer with more jargon, PM me.

[5.7]

Before this thread descends into B&M pt. 64, what would you collectively prefer?

 

> A blank weekend, with absolutely nothing?

> Or a thinly veiled 'event' weekend with little content, but at least some effort on the part of Rockstar?

 

Rockstar don't have anything for us right now because they're working on other stuff in the background, so just be patient and get over the disappointment. At least they're not spamming us with emails telling us about a new golden paddle for our dinghy, or the latest wing mirrors for our least favourite car. It's just a normal weekend.

R* don't spam 'cos they got ol'Martin Madrazo for spam.

[XenoxX]

 

Before this thread descends into B&M pt. 64, what would you collectively prefer?

 

> A blank weekend, with absolutely nothing?

> Or a thinly veiled 'event' weekend with little content, but at least some effort on the part of Rockstar?

 

Rockstar don't have anything for us right now because they're working on other stuff in the background, so just be patient and get over the disappointment. At least they're not spamming us with emails telling us about a new golden paddle for our dinghy, or the latest wing mirrors for our least favourite car. It's just a normal weekend.

R* don't spam 'cos they got ol'Martin Madrazo for spam.

 

I second this, Martins invites aren't only annoying as f*ck, but also COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to Matchmaking.

It would be WAY smarter to just have a Quick Job Option for the most active Adversary Mode.

[bulldog385]

This new Adversary Mode sound more like a slogan for McDonald's foof. It's so Crappy it's In and Out in 90 Seconds or Less ... LOL

[FlacidJack]

This new Adversary Mode sound more like a slogan for McDonald's foof. It's so Crappy it's In and Out in 90 Seconds or Less ... LOL

lol so true.

...actually I just went in, saw the menu and walked out. Still applies I guess so well done on a good title R*!

[AUScowboy]

Haven't played an adv. Mode for anything other than D.O. since Every Bullet Counts. The pay makes it a very literal waste of time, oh and half are either super boring or super unbalanced..

[aaronBLUEeyes]

R* doesn't understand that we want (uhm no, we NEED) new and awesome content every week. They don't understand that we are not even able to play the game because we are "distracted" by all this stuff we don't care about.

 

It's such a shame, they don't understand that they are forcing us to play other games. We are so sorry, we didn't mean to destroy their multi-million business but they kinda asked for it. Now that a bunch of gtaf users will remove that damn disc from their gaming devices the game is probably gonna die and nobody will ever play it anymore.

 

R.I.P GTAO, we tried our best to keep you alive but you have choose suicide.

 

New content every week is ridiculous it takes time and creativity to develop new content.

 

With that being said, I would like them to release something decent, game expanding and new once per quarter and 2 of these updates to be game changing each year.

 

And everything else can be smaller secondary content.

 

The issues we're facing is that R* has been stringing us along with secondary content for nearly 6 months with zero news of the next big thing.

 

Transparency with customers and them saying, in 2 months or 4 months we want to introduce x-update would go along way and give consumers content to look forward to.

Edited April 30, 2016 by aaronBLUEeyes

[XenoxX]

 

 

The issues we're facing is that R* has been stringing us along with secondary content for nearly 6 months with zero news of the next big thing.

Well the lowrider Customs Classic update, was kind of a normal sized update, with clothes, new vehicle options, hairstyles, weapons etc.

That was the type of Update R* used to release back before 2015.

[Schumy7]

Wich canadian stupido invents al these crap.?

 

They make fools of us.

Edited April 30, 2016 by Schumy7

[nkjellman]

Their just throwing us garbage in a failed attempt to keep us entertained while we wait for something big.

 

 

Big content upgrades take time. It's coming fellas.

[Smooth Longsack]

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

I guess this is the place to be since Next DLC got locked AGAIN and the subforum will be in chaos AGAIN...

 

Who's ready for that adversary mode, yay!??

[xDatxJunkyx]

Wich canadian stupido invents al these crap.?

 

They make fools of us.

 

HEY!, DON'T DISS CANADA FRIEND

Edited May 1, 2016 by xDatxJunkyx

[Hunter]

This week is in one ear; out the other.

 

Sorry, but I had to. Another sorry if someone else came up with it first.

[whywontyoulisten]

 

Wich canadian stupido invents al these crap.?

 

They make fools of us.

 

HEY!, DON'T DISS CANADA FRIEND

 

I'm not your friend, buddy!

[rlk232]

I'm not your buddy, pal.

 

Just super disappointed in cockstar for pulling this crap. With the money they've made, it simply doesn't make sense for them not to create any more decent updates now, but if that's the case, why the eff are they waiting so long and giving us ONLY what nobody wants?

 

They're going to see shark card sales PLUMMET in the coming months, even if a new update comes out say, mid June. It'll be too little, too late. Uncharted 4 is going to shred them.

Edited May 1, 2016 by rlk232

[Weedell]

I'm not your buddy, pal.

 

Just super disappointed in cockstar for pulling this crap. With the money they've made, it simply doesn't make sense for them not to create any more decent updates now, but if that's the case, why the eff are they waiting so long and giving us ONLY what nobody wants?

 

They're going to see shark card sales PLUMMET in the coming months, even if a new update comes out say, mid June. It'll be too little, too late. Uncharted 4 is going to shred them.

What an absolutely assinine and unreasoned assumption -- they made a ton of money, are on track to continue that, they say they're working on more, but no, they're just going to abandon ship. No wonder your conclusions are so absurd, your premise is bonkers.

[rlk232]

 

I'm not your buddy, pal.

 

Just super disappointed in cockstar for pulling this crap. With the money they've made, it simply doesn't make sense for them not to create any more decent updates now, but if that's the case, why the eff are they waiting so long and giving us ONLY what nobody wants?

 

They're going to see shark card sales PLUMMET in the coming months, even if a new update comes out say, mid June. It'll be too little, too late. Uncharted 4 is going to shred them.

What an absolutely assinine and unreasoned assumption -- they made a ton of money, are on track to continue that, they say they're working on more, but no, they're just going to abandon ship. No wonder your conclusions are so absurd, your premise is bonkers.

 

 

Dude, you have to read more closely. You made the assumption, not me. Remember how I had to prove to you, step by step, that you basically could make $250k an hour with VIP? Well, I'm not doing that again. You can figure it out for yourself (here's a hint, I said IF and even prefaced that by saying "it simply doesn't make sense..."). You might be best served trying something for your memory, my man. Good lord, people. Cut back on the alcohol on the weekends

Edited May 1, 2016 by rlk232

[Weedell]

Actually, I remember me showing you that missions were an unproductive element of your routine, and that I had slightly underestimated the potential earnings per hour from VIP work.

 

As for the assumptions, in this case I make none. I know that R* has a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders and aren't going kill the golden goose. Your premise, as I understand it here, is that they will kill the goose.

Again w the ad hominem.

 

I haven't used any mind altering substance this evening beyond coffee a few hours ago, not that being drunk would invalidate my reasoning.

[rlk232]

Actually, I remember me showing you that missions were an unproductive element of your routine, and that I had slightly underestimated the potential earnings per hour from VIP work.

 

As for the assumptions, in this case I make none. I know that R* has a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders and aren't going kill the golden goose. Your premise, as I understand it here, is that they will kill the goose.

Again w the ad hominem.

 

I haven't used any mind altering substance this evening beyond coffee a few hours ago, not that being drunk would invalidate my reasoning.

 

Dude, the missions were only because of the cooldown the game enforces; better to make some money than none, right? As to the second part, it was your assumption, not mine. I pointed out how bad it'd be if they didn't and that timing is key (June may be too little, too late). It is pretty reasonable to question their actions, and point out how inconsistent they've been. Are they going to jerk us around like they did with heists? They've been very oblique about their future plans. Plus, only releasing adversary modes makes me think that their "update" will be a huge adversary thing/disaster. I wouldn't even count that as an update. It appears we have vast differences in terms of what words mean but to be fair, I think a large number of people would agree with me on the adversary mode thing (as to it not being an update if it's what they do later on).

Edited May 1, 2016 by rlk232

[Weedell]

That's exactly what I'm challenging. If the earth were made of cotton candy, we'd eat rock wool at the county fair.

 

Absurd premise yields absurd conclusion. Of course they're going to keep releasing substantiative DLC, it's a cash cow and nobody smart enough to raise such a cow would be so ignorant as to stop milking it and send it to the butcher.

 

The absurdity of the premise is further illustrated by the newswire, as of 12hrs ago we have a typically vague statement direct from the horses mouth: "Stay tuned here at the Rockstar Newswire for future announcements of more new updates coming to GTA Online soon!"

 

Source: http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52607/in-and-out-week-april-29-may-5-double-gta-rp

Edited May 1, 2016 by Weedell

[rlk232]

That's exactly what I'm challenging. If the earth were made of cotton candy, we'd eat rock wool at the county fair.

 

Absurd premise yields absurd conclusion. Of course they're going to keep releasing substantive DLC, it's a cash cow and nobody smart enough to raise such a cow would be so ignorant as to stop milking it and send it to the butcher.

 

Fixed that for you. Moreover, that (that they won't make anymore DLC) obviously wasn't my conclusion, as indicated by the tenor of the post. Of course they'll give us "an update" but what is substantive to them now? Remember, I said "decent" update. That's obviously opinion but it sincerely seems they expect less and less ought to keep us happy. Heck, just look at how many people were displeased and made that rather clear with posts to the R* newswire page

 

A big, great update in late May or early June would be the first real, true update in 5+ months, in my mind. The Valentine's day stuff wasn't a decent update, neither was one lowrider at a time, or any of this adversary crap.

Edited May 1, 2016 by rlk232

[Weedell]

Ah, yes, a typo, autocorrect will do that. You're still maintaining that they'll kill the goose? Through ignorance, incompetence, what?

[rlk232]

Ah, yes, a typo, autocorrect will do that. You're still maintaining that they'll kill the goose? Through ignorance, incompetence, what?

 

I'm maintaining that they're going to kill the golden goose without realizing it; several factors contribute to this...

 

1)they've still not fully decided the lifespan of V, which is based on the release of VI, ostensibly.

2)the development of VI probably is taking up a lot of R* resources/developer focus

3)complacency/hubris, since they've made the most successful game ever, they may figure people will eat up whatever they put out, regardless of quality.

 

I understand it's an older game, so updates will eventually become less frequent, but instead of constantly giving us piddly crap (they've called the new adversary modes/crap updates) put that time in to what we want. A real update!

Edited May 1, 2016 by rlk232