Inconsistent Yacht Defenses

[SPECTER II]

All the time I have people trespassing my yacht defense in aircrafts and safely parachuting down. I decided to test this out today, so I flew an aircraft into a yacht defense and I blew up instantly. I also tested parachuting into a yacht defense and I get killed instantly. BUT when others do that, they get on my yacht safely, even with defense on.

What's with this?

Some clearing up: The trespassers are near the sea in their aircrafts. I set it where nobody can pass the defenses. Nobody is in passive when parachuting. - clarification: these two players kept trying to get onto my yacht and their helicopter got very close to my yacht despite the defense. As they jump out, they then activate passive, so Im wondering why they didnt immediately get blown out of the sky.

 

EDIT: The answer seems to be that these things happen during a freemode event. I hid freemode events and do not pay attention to them, so that's likely what happened.

Edited May 7, 2016 by SPECTER II

[REXX]

Only thing I can think of is that you have it set to allow anyone around your yacht.

[ash-274]

On a similar note: I go around other people's yachts, by boat, all the time, but very rarely (twice out of 150+) I've gone near one and a voice (with the closed-captioning) keeps telling me to get away. I'm not in the air, so it/they don't shoot at me.

[SoDank_ItPainsMe]

If you have enough altitude you don't get blown up, perhaps if you jump from outside of the range you are safe too.

Edited April 28, 2016 by SoDank_ItPainsMe

[Sky_Light12]

the defense is no means of 100% accuracy

say there's a guy who is the master of buzzard attack chopper . he is so good that yacht's defenses would be rendered useless aganist him ( even when being abused ) despite moving slower

[TreFacTor]

Your defenses only protect against aircrafts at a certain level. A player can safely parachute into your deck but once there can no longer use weapons. They can also swim up to your yacht safely. If I were you I'd either go inside and wait till they realize the won't be invited in or just leave your yacht. If you don't want to be bothered at all theres invite only but ya knew that already so...

 

 

 

Pick your poison.

Edited April 28, 2016 by TreFacTor

[SPECTER II]

Your defenses only protect against aircrafts at a certain level. A player can safely parachute into your deck but once there can no longer use weapons. They can also swim up to your yacht safely. If I were you I'd either go inside and wait till they realize the won't be invited in or just leave your yacht. If you don't want to be bothered at all theres invite only but ya knew that already so...

 

 

 

Pick your poison.

So why did I get killed by defenses when I parachuted into another person's defenses?

[REXX]

Air defenses also target players that parachute.

[Shadowfennekin]

I have the same f*cking problem. Fly over a pointlessly defended yacht(Nobody was on it) to deliver a package. "TURN AROUND NOW" Don't get the chance, bam dead.

 

Meanwhile jet is doing fly bys around my yacht and not being shot down despite the defense only set to ignore me and friends

[FrugalDangerMan]

I let everyone on and in my yacht. Why not? What are they going to do? Piss on my bed? Burn the bar down? Throw a brick through the TV?

 

who cares?!? It's a static model that's indestructible. It would withstand a nuclear holocaust and out live the cockroaches that survived.

 

If they get all fighty, I disable weapons. Wooooooo.

Edited April 28, 2016 by PNutterSammich

[CarimboHanky]

diving down with a jet give you enough speed to not get damaged by the defense system while leaving the area...

 

yesterday i killed a vip and his crew that had a bounty, they later moved into the yacht and started to message me daring to go there and kill them, i knew what they were trying to i when up high and dived into the yacht, sprayed the area with the cannon, killed them bastards, made a really hard turn to avoid crashing all while the defense system missiles exploted as a fly away.

 

i was surprised it worked so i when for it again and it worked.

[SPECTER II]

I let everyone on and in my yacht. Why not? What are they going to do? Piss on my bed? Burn the bar down? Throw a brick through the TV?

 

who cares?!? It's a static model that's indestructible. It would withstand a nuclear holocaust and out live the cockroaches that survived.

 

If they get all fighty, I disable weapons. Wooooooo.

There's a fallacy about assuming intentions, though I forgot what it was. I'm not being personal, but this post is about inconsistency. When the defense actually works, they parachute in (but I get killed when I parachute into defenses). Sometimes I want to start Piracy Prevention, but people are on my yacht (such as this one scenario I posted on B&M, in which these kids decided to host a party on my yacht, though the defense actually worked that time, which is why I posted about this inconsistency).

Air defenses also target players that parachute.

Original post says that other players can safely parachute into defense. Edited April 28, 2016 by SPECTER II

[Shaytan]

So is it just me enjoying to have people trying to get into my yacht? Once they're inside, just keep changing defenses on and off and kill them meanwhile. They'll respawn inside your yacht, so you can just kick their ass until they finally (try) to go away. It's always like that after Piracy Prevention, and I love it! Even better is when they respawn outside the yacht and try to snipe me. Again, defenses on, see then hopelessly trying to blow my head, and when they quit and are looking somewhere else, BAM! Headshot on them.

Edited April 28, 2016 by KingAndy

[BlackMilk]

Sounds like fun. And what I find slightly amusing about this is that people complain a lot about jets and passive mode, but when the yacht is used to score easy kills that's all fine? Cool.

 

I'm not complaining though, more power to ya. "Not in my (floating) house", right?

[Shadowfennekin]

Sounds like fun. And what I find slightly amusing about this is that people complain a lot about jets and passive mode, but when the yacht is used to score easy kills that's all fine? Cool.

 

I'm not complaining though, more power to ya. "Not in my (floating) house", right?

Well it's our property we pay millions for and some people think they can stay on it. It's nothing at all like Passive, and if somebody tires the on/off thing when you're on their yacht just keep tapping the weapon wheel button and you'll know when it's on

[BlackMilk]

 

Sounds like fun. And what I find slightly amusing about this is that people complain a lot about jets and passive mode, but when the yacht is used to score easy kills that's all fine? Cool.

 

I'm not complaining though, more power to ya. "Not in my (floating) house", right?

Well it's our property we pay millions for and some people think they can stay on it. It's nothing at all like Passive, and if somebody tires the on/off thing when you're on their yacht just keep tapping the weapon wheel button and you'll know when it's on

 

That is all true. But the solution for the problem doesn't justify people using it. I mean, that's what people say in the other threads.

There are ways to deal with griefers in jets and passive mode, but other people are still of the opinion that they're cheap and cowardly tactics to use (like the EWO).

 

Is it EXACTLY the same? Nah. But using the yacht's defenses that way is something that I feel would earn a spot in that line-up of slightly dishonourable tactics. And that little moral code of honour is something I don't care for, like I've said in plenty of other posts. But again what I mean is that this seems like something people would be complaining about if you look at the history of threads, yet I don't see that happening right now. The argument that it's private property holds up, but there will always be those people who say "you're in a public session, it's all fair game". So that.

[Shaytan]

Sounds like fun. And what I find slightly amusing about this is that people complain a lot about jets and passive mode, but when the yacht is used to score easy kills that's all fine? Cool.

 

I'm not complaining though, more power to ya. "Not in my (floating) house", right?

A yacht is like a passive-agressive way to get some kills. It's a static place, unlike a jet I can't sail arround killing people. It's the other players that, freely and by themselves, go there. Also, random curious that don't want any trouble would approach in passive right?

Edited April 28, 2016 by KingAndy

[SumSkittles]

 

I let everyone on and in my yacht. Why not? What are they going to do? Piss on my bed? Burn the bar down? Throw a brick through the TV?

 

who cares?!? It's a static model that's indestructible. It would withstand a nuclear holocaust and out live the cockroaches that survived.

 

If they get all fighty, I disable weapons. Wooooooo.

There's a fallacy about assuming intentions, though I forgot what it was. I'm not being personal, but this post is about inconsistency. When the defense actually works, they parachute in (but I get killed when I parachute into defenses). Sometimes I want to start Piracy Prevention, but people are on my yacht (such as this one scenario I posted on B&M, in which these kids decided to host a party on my yacht, though the defense actually worked that time, which is why I posted about this inconsistency).

Air defenses also target players that parachute.

Original post says that other players can safely parachute into defense.

 

This is the typical result of when folks try to parachute onto my yacht. Ive not had one person land safely since I have owned a yacht. I dont think passive mode protects players from yacht defenses even if they're no longer in a vehicle. Not sure what else to say for you other than bad luck?

 

[SPECTER II]

Sounds like fun. And what I find slightly amusing about this is that people complain a lot about jets and passive mode, but when the yacht is used to score easy kills that's all fine? Cool.

 

I'm not complaining though, more power to ya. "Not in my (floating) house", right?

How's that relevant though?

[BlackMilk]

 

Sounds like fun. And what I find slightly amusing about this is that people complain a lot about jets and passive mode, but when the yacht is used to score easy kills that's all fine? Cool.

 

I'm not complaining though, more power to ya. "Not in my (floating) house", right?

A yacht is like a passive-agressive way to get some kills. It's a static place, unlike a jet I can't sail arround killing people. It's the other players that, freely and by themselves, go there. Also, random curious that don't want any trouble would approach in passive right?

 

Again, people that think you're obligated to fight them on their terms whenever they engage you in a public session. The type that bother you when you're flying around in a Hydra, not shooting anyone and then complain when you decide to use it against them. They'll seek you out anywhere and think they can dictate the rules of engagement.

 

Plenty of those people on here, Not being on foot and without explosives or help from any other tool makes you a coward in their eyes. Could be they're not posting about stuff like this because they're still preoccupied with the jets in their sessions.

[REXX]

One other possible thing it could be is lag. Really, I'm out of ideas

[interfreak]

diving down with a jet give you enough speed to not get damaged by the defense system while leaving the area...

 

yesterday i killed a vip and his crew that had a bounty, they later moved into the yacht and started to message me daring to go there and kill them, i knew what they were trying to i when up high and dived into the yacht, sprayed the area with the cannon, killed them bastards, made a really hard turn to avoid crashing all while the defense system missiles exploted as a fly away.

 

i was surprised it worked so i when for it again and it worked.

 

This is simply not possible when yacht defences are on.

 

Even if you can fire missile/cannons at the yacht when their defences are on, they never reach the deck.

[CarimboHanky]

 

diving down with a jet give you enough speed to not get damaged by the defense system while leaving the area...

 

yesterday i killed a vip and his crew that had a bounty, they later moved into the yacht and started to message me daring to go there and kill them, i knew what they were trying to i when up high and dived into the yacht, sprayed the area with the cannon, killed them bastards, made a really hard turn to avoid crashing all while the defense system missiles exploted as a fly away.

 

i was surprised it worked so i when for it again and it worked.

This is simply not possible when yacht defences are on.

 

Even if you can fire missile/cannons at the yacht when their defences are on, they never reach the deck.

well i did...maybe the game was glitchy or something but i did it atleast 2 more times against the same crew, managing to leave the area as defense system missiles exploded around me.

 

heck today this guy with a bounty was on his yacht, i shoot a missile as the yacht captain gave me the warning and i killed him.

 

the other day i was in the deck of my yacht, i put down the controller to do something on my phone, next thing you know i got sniped my someone evenknow my defense system was on, so if sniper bullets can penetrate the defense, jet cannon/missiles can too

[SPECTER II]

 

 

diving down with a jet give you enough speed to not get damaged by the defense system while leaving the area...

 

yesterday i killed a vip and his crew that had a bounty, they later moved into the yacht and started to message me daring to go there and kill them, i knew what they were trying to i when up high and dived into the yacht, sprayed the area with the cannon, killed them bastards, made a really hard turn to avoid crashing all while the defense system missiles exploted as a fly away.

 

i was surprised it worked so i when for it again and it worked.

This is simply not possible when yacht defences are on.

 

Even if you can fire missile/cannons at the yacht when their defences are on, they never reach the deck.

well i did...maybe the game was glitchy or something but i did it atleast 2 more times against the same crew, managing to leave the area as defense system missiles exploded around me.

 

heck today this guy with a bounty was on his yacht, i shoot a missile as the yacht captain gave me the warning and i killed him.

 

the other day i was in the deck of my yacht, i put down the controller to do something on my phone, next thing you know i got sniped my someone evenknow my defense system was on, so if sniper bullets can penetrate the defense, jet cannon/missiles can too

 

Perhaps these inconsistencies are caused by freemode events? I usually leave freemode events off so I wouldn't know.

[CarimboHanky]

 

 

 

diving down with a jet give you enough speed to not get damaged by the defense system while leaving the area...

 

yesterday i killed a vip and his crew that had a bounty, they later moved into the yacht and started to message me daring to go there and kill them, i knew what they were trying to i when up high and dived into the yacht, sprayed the area with the cannon, killed them bastards, made a really hard turn to avoid crashing all while the defense system missiles exploted as a fly away.

 

i was surprised it worked so i when for it again and it worked.

This is simply not possible when yacht defences are on.

 

Even if you can fire missile/cannons at the yacht when their defences are on, they never reach the deck.

well i did...maybe the game was glitchy or something but i did it atleast 2 more times against the same crew, managing to leave the area as defense system missiles exploded around me.

 

heck today this guy with a bounty was on his yacht, i shoot a missile as the yacht captain gave me the warning and i killed him.

 

the other day i was in the deck of my yacht, i put down the controller to do something on my phone, next thing you know i got sniped my someone evenknow my defense system was on, so if sniper bullets can penetrate the defense, jet cannon/missiles can too

 

Perhaps these inconsistencies are caused by freemode events? I usually leave freemode events off so I wouldn't know.very likely, there are events that disable the defense system lobby-wide.

[interfreak]

Also, if they have a wanted level defences are automatically deactivated.

[CrysisAverted]

never once been killed with my yacht defenses up

 

yesterday a Buzzard pilot kept spraying its gun towards me, all the explosions my yacht was creating to destroy the projectiles got really loud and annoying, still no worries. I figure any reason you may die is lag or cops on you disabled your defenses

[Sky_Light12]

never once been killed with my yacht defenses up

 

yesterday a Buzzard pilot kept spraying its gun towards me, all the explosions my yacht was creating to destroy the projectiles got really loud and annoying, still no worries. I figure any reason you may die is lag or cops on you disabled your defenses

as far i know , you cannot be killed while defenses still on ( the effect resemble to passive mode indeed ) but something like wrecks from intruder , might be enough to harm anyone , especially the flames on the wreck ( this can be mitigated by jumping at the water )

 

just giving a finger to snipers who aren't invited to yacht party . instead of using sniper scope to zoom in , i've used my phone's camera

Edited April 29, 2016 by Sky_Light12

[SPECTER II]

never once been killed with my yacht defenses up

 

yesterday a Buzzard pilot kept spraying its gun towards me, all the explosions my yacht was creating to destroy the projectiles got really loud and annoying, still no worries. I figure any reason you may die is lag or cops on you disabled your defenses

Oh... I never thought about cops disabling the defenses.

[kk9fan97]

 

 

I let everyone on and in my yacht. Why not? What are they going to do? Piss on my bed? Burn the bar down? Throw a brick through the TV?

 

who cares?!? It's a static model that's indestructible. It would withstand a nuclear holocaust and out live the cockroaches that survived.

 

If they get all fighty, I disable weapons. Wooooooo.

There's a fallacy about assuming intentions, though I forgot what it was. I'm not being personal, but this post is about inconsistency. When the defense actually works, they parachute in (but I get killed when I parachute into defenses). Sometimes I want to start Piracy Prevention, but people are on my yacht (such as this one scenario I posted on B&M, in which these kids decided to host a party on my yacht, though the defense actually worked that time, which is why I posted about this inconsistency).

Air defenses also target players that parachute.

Original post says that other players can safely parachute into defense.

 

This is the typical result of when folks try to parachute onto my yacht. Ive not had one person land safely since I have owned a yacht. I dont think passive mode protects players from yacht defenses even if they're no longer in a vehicle. Not sure what else to say for you other than bad luck?

 

Passive mode does nothing against the defenses. Two days ago I had three people try and parachute on to my yacht while in passive mode and all three got blown up by the yacht defenses.