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Michael

Traits you don't want to see in the next protagonist?

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Vince Vance

I don't want a character who is:

-an ass kisser to his boss (Tony Cipriani)

It's been a while since I played LCS but I never saw Tony as an ass kisser. It seemed to me that, at least by about mid way through the game, Tony and Sal had become genuine friends which is why Tony was doing all that stuff for him. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer someone like Tommy who's out for himself and only helps people if it profits him personally but I always enjoyed the relationship between Tony and Sal

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Edward Kenway

I don't want the next protagonist to have any of Trevor's traits. No cannibalistic rapist qualities, no fits of uncontrolled blind rage, and no crying. Seems like all Trevor did the whole of GTA V was cry about Michael and attempts to mask it under his insane demeanor. I also don't want anymore protagonists with a dysfunctional family although that's not exactly a trait so to speak. It'd be interesting to see a criminal with two different lives, where his family didn't know about his criminal side and thus were pretty average.

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mp412rex

iess niko\trevor\michael more dimitri rascalov/catalina/bulgarin

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Cern

Being straight. Give me a gay protag. Don't make him flamboyant or anything, but give me the option to date dudes.

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Algonquin Assassin

Definitely none of the traits from CJ or Trevor. I don't want someone who's a naive little bitch or a raged up man child ever again.

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GTA-Biker

 

I don't want a character who is:

-an ass kisser to his boss (Tony Cipriani)

It's been a while since I played LCS but I never saw Tony as an ass kisser. It seemed to me that, at least by about mid way through the game, Tony and Sal had become genuine friends which is why Tony was doing all that stuff for him. Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer someone like Tommy who's out for himself and only helps people if it profits him personally but I always enjoyed the relationship between Tony and Sal

 

Honestly,he wasn't really as much of an ass kisser to Sal,as he was to his mother (the old bitch hired hitmen to kill him,and he still continued kissing her ass).But he also did pretty much anything Sal and Donald told him to do (he stole corpses for Donald to eat,and I think the mission where he blows up part of LC was for Sal),and didn't really stand up to any of his bosses other than Vincenzo.

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Touge Spirit Leader

Most of the aforementioned and a vagina. Call me what you will but I don't have any interest in playing as a woman in a GTA type game. Just kills it for me.

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Sir Michael

I don't want to see a stereotypical deep raspy-voiced macho protag... ever. R* hasn't added one thus far, so that's reassuring. Other than that, everybody else just about covered the major things.

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Osho

Definitely none of the traits from CJ. I don't want someone who's a naive little bitch.

If CJ from the get-go wasn't meant to be naive and inexperienced then his character will just become another Tommy Vercetti. The reason RPG elements were introduced, including the friends that prove to be of invaluable help to CJ throughout is what makes SA an incredible adventure and separates a "young black man" like CJ from the crowd of the most badass, experienced protagonists. One may identify him as a bitch because of his naivety, straightforward, humble attitude and at times idiotic as well but frankly all of that serves to make him a lot more believable as a character one could easily relate with him that's built around the life of growing in the urban 90s hood and struggling to survive against all odds in order to protect his family and friends.

Since its a video game, and esp, featuring not one, or two, but three cities and a large countryside with an added bonus of desert, the story does meander and wander off at certain points but its still well executed that you get to see growth in his character, and fun in playing with so much variety that justified the brand GTA experience, if not the more serious theme of early LS gang life in its entirety due to different settings packed in one action packed adventure.

I'm sure had the game featured only LS then we could've seen more focused storyline.

As a character, CJ still didn't disappoint me. He had so many interesting motives and challenges to take makes his character progression one of the best in the series that one could feel and experience the characters' growth, become invested in the adventure and relationship with other wonderful supporting characters. Its a one of a kind and a rarity that you find such an interesting character in an open world game.

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Goldn-Bayse

I don't want a protagnist like Toni again. He wasn't interesting in LCS at all besides the Ma Ciprani missions. The rest of the time he just kisses up to Salvatore.

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Racecarlock

Chronic depression.

 

Seriously, not one protagonist seemed to be happy with their lives after I did that whole story. Not one. The biggest change I can perceive is that sometimes michael and amanda are more friendly to each other than usual.

 

Seriously, Franklin has a f*cking mansion and he's still not satisfied. The guy has a bottomless bong and he can't even not be mopey while he's stoned as f*ck. If he is ever happy, I can't tell.

 

Trevor seems to be, well, I don't know what he is. He would seem to still be permanently angry even though he's rich as f*ck now. He seems to just want to rob banks for fun, which is good for him, I guess, but it's not work per se. So what, he deals drugs because it's fun or something? I don't know.

 

Point is, even though the scenery was sunnier and more colorful, there was still no brightness to be found in the characters of GTA V. Just stereotypes and whining. Was I supposed to like any of the characters? I don't know. Was I supposed to like ANY HUMAN in the game? I don't know. At least I had planes and tanks this time to distract me. In the end, I just don't find GTA 4 or 5 to be that great. There's been something missing ever since the franchise left vice city. It was halfway there in san andreas, but there was just something about vice city that lended itself so well to the GTA series. Like, forget the original games, forget GTA 3, Vice City is the true original GTA. It's the essential GTA experience.

 

Maybe VI needs to drop all the seriousness (And yes, GTA V was serious, it wanted you to take all of it's hateful parodies seriously, and that's why it's satire failed completely according to me) and just be silly and wacky like Vice City again. Say what you will about the Saints Row Series, but 2 seemed to understand GTA better than GTA did, and at least IV had as much fun with itself as it possibly could. GTA V was ultimately a game of middle grounds. It was realistic, but not TOO realistic, fun, but not TOO fun, serious, but not TOO serious, wacky, but not TOO wacky. In the end, by trying to please everyone, it ultimately didn't please anyone. Aside from the people who aren't deeply interested and invested in GTA like us. And hell, even I liked it at first. But yeah, just drop the self important seriousness for the next one.

 

Because let's face it, GTA isn't a game for deep introspection of society's ills. It just isn't. It's a game where it's really fun to ramp cars into stuff and shoot pedestrians from the ice cream van you stole. That's what it has always been. If I need a deep analysis of society's ills, I'll watch Jon Stewart, John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah, or Larry Wilmore. GTA, while it occasionally does hit on a good point, should be more about just having fun in a relatively realistic setting without all the self important drama. I hope VI gets back to that.

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Algonquin Assassin

 

Definitely none of the traits from CJ. I don't want someone who's a naive little bitch.

If CJ from the get-go wasn't meant to be naive and inexperienced then his character will just become another Tommy Vercetti.

 

And what's wrong with that? CJ would've been a way better character if he was more like Tommy.

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Osho

 

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Definitely none of the traits from CJ. I don't want someone who's a naive little bitch.

If CJ from the get-go wasn't meant to be naive and inexperienced then his character will just become another Tommy Vercetti.02
02 And what's wrong with that? CJ would've been a way better character if he was more like Tommy.02Nothing wrong, its about playing with a different approach, not limited to only rising through the ranks like Tommy but also experiencing the growth in a character as well.

Its like playing both the early life with a rough beginning and the rise to the top as well. Through Claude and Tommy, the players are immediately thrown into the action with a very straightforward predictable plot, that involves the common motive like revenge but not as intricate as the personal journey of CJ who has a background and support of the family and friends to join in his quest for the same, then being an experienced criminal which frankly makes him more fleshed out as a character and different than Tommy/Claude, but equally fun and exciting to play nonetheless.

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Journey_95

Being straight. Give me a gay protag. Don't make him flamboyant or anything, but give me the option to date dudes.

Please no, go play Bioware games for that!

 

 

Definitely none of the traits from CJ. I don't want someone who's a naive little bitch.

If CJ from the get-go wasn't meant to be naive and inexperienced then his character will just become another Tommy Vercetti.

 

And what's wrong with that? CJ would've been a way better character if he was more like Tommy.

 

The problem with CJ is that he is a very inconsistent character, not just that is was inexperienced and naive. His story just makes no sense post LS.

 

He does badass sh*t one minute, then is Catalina's bitch in the next (in the most cringey cutscene of GTA ever). Then he infiltrates Syndicates, robs the mob, does top secret CIA missions etc. and yet is still the same old pussy who is Tenpenny's bitch, who returns to the hood and has no opinion of his own (instead he just follows Sweet).

 

I wouldn't have minded a more inexperienced protag if there was some character development and growth but for CJ there is none, he is just there to do crazy missions and thats it.

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Official General

Definitely none of the traits from CJ or Trevor. I don't want someone who's a naive little bitch or a raged up man child ever again.

Only agree with the Trevor part.

 

CJ was not naive, he was just under major pressure and didn't know how to handle it at first, then he found himself and came into his own. I admit though, I didn't like the occasional shows of feebleness and weakness though, did make him look like a little b*tch at times - but what made it satisfying was that he was able to redeem himself and get revenge on those who humiliated him.

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Zello

No more of that family BS again

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Journey_95

No more of that family BS again

 

I actually liked it, just wish they took it more seriously. But a protag who has a wife and kids was definitely refreshing.

 

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Not A Nice Person

Having a character like Trevor, who is blatantly as infurating would be downright stale. I thought he would be a racist redneck when I first saw him and that would've been bad (unless he had good storyline) but what he is now is almost as unbearable. He's manipulative, childish, and a bit whiny which is one of the reasons the game came off with a badly comical build.

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Official General

 

No more of that family BS again

 

I actually liked it, just wish they took it more seriously. But a protag who has a wife and kids was definitely refreshing.

 

The idea for a family thing in V was good one, yeah sure it was refreshing to see something different in the series. However, it was ruined by being coated with all that generic Hollywood parody/satire bullsh*t that just wasn't that funny. Edited by Official General
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The Dedito Gae

No more of that family BS again

There's nothing wrong with family.

 

There's the De Santa type of family and there's family like Roman and Sweet, the idea itself is not bad.

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Zello

 

No more of that family BS again

There's nothing wrong with family.

 

There's the De Santa type of family and there's family like Roman and Sweet, the idea itself is not bad.

 

Yeah I can deal with that maybe the protagonist has a couple of relatives that are involved in crime kinda like Tony and Chris from the Sopranos just no more of that protag that is married with kids none of that sh*t ever again.

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UAL

 

No more of that family BS again

 

I actually liked it, just wish they took it more seriously. But a protag who has a wife and kids was definitely refreshing.

 

 

 

The family thing was something I was looking forward to before the game came out, mainly because I thought it was cool how it was done in RDR. But in V it just seemed really glitched and unfinished (Michael only talking to Tracy, the family getting up as soon as you sit down, the family doing strange things at odd times of the day etc.)

Definitely none of the traits from CJ

 

What traits exactly?

 

CJ always came across as pretty no nonsense to me, sure he was a bit whiny at times but overall he was a solid protagonist IMO

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GTAVGG

I don't want a protaganist who constantly talks about how he's going to do great things but just does what everyone else tells him to do without question and whines and complains about it despite the fact that he's doing it (Franklin).

I don't want a protaganist who has an annoying ass family that no one cares about and says he no longer does that kind of stuff and has a new life yet he goes back to doing it anyways (Micheal).

I don't want a protaganist who is just an insane, man child that is made just for laughs and to match how people play the game (Trevor).

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gunziness

I will tell you what traits I would like to have in a future character, since I find it easier to describe.

 

- A calm, down to earth character, with an ironic/sarcastic sense of humor (a mix of Nikos/Michaels sense of sarcasm) and with strong attitude (pretty much like Luis's) that cares about his friends and doesnt give a sh*t about the rest (like Luis, once again), not bitchy and open minded. Someone that wouldnt mind starting a massacre or doing something dangerous if it benefiits him enough to worth the effort.

Basically a simple and straight to the point kind of person, but with an interesting view about the word that surrounds him.

 

- For an antagonist, I just want someone pretty much like Hoyt from FC3. That guy was f*cking insane, much more than Bas IMO. Hes probably one of the most intimidating antagonists I ever meet in a videogame.

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CRAZY AL WARD

As long as the Protagonist is NOT a meth head, a Crack head, Married, has kids & is Not a Complete

: I'm good

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HeySlickThatsMe

"Trevorish"

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SPECTER II

Badassery. Intelligence.

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GTAVGG

Badassery. Intelligence.

You don't want a badass, intelligent protagonist? Well, that's your opinion.

 

I don't want a protagonist to already have some sort of experience in criminal activity. I want a protagonist that has no clue what they're doing at first but they mature over time and becomes very badass.

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Dwnld

I would hit Trevor with a banhammer right across the face if I could.

 

 

There hasn't been a badly developed R* character to date IMHO.

None of them are nice people, but when some people complained about Michael or Trevor it did bemuse me. You shouldn't really like any of them - they're all murderers. We play from a tight third person perspective, we do not become them. They are all bad people, what matters to me is they are well written complex characters.

 

There's no reason why we can't like our anti-heros. It worked well in Tony Montana in Scarface, Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver or on a lighter note Dave Brent in The Office.

 

You forgot Deadpool.

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wise_man

No more miserable guy who just give himself for governments to do their dirty works.

 

Oh, and no more characters that constantly fall into troubles, repeating the same mistake without learning any lesson.

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