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Michael

Traits you don't want to see in the next protagonist?

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Michael

Let's look back at the Grand Theft Auto V when we had Michael as one of the protagonists. People found him annoying because he basically abandoned his family and his constant nagging was extremely annoying and didn't help out with his situation, we can talk further about why I dislike Michael but I was thinking about the next protagonist, for the next protagonists, which traits would you definitely don't want to see back in him? Would you dislike to have an very negative protagonist or an very positive protagonist? Share your thoughts in this thread!

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Carbonox

I'd hate to play as another stereotypical character.

 

That is all.

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Mister Pink

Nagging and self-loathing characters. Characters that talk too much and whine and bicker a lot.

 

On a positive note, I'd like to see a character that's a little more philosophical that might have great or even skewed or distorted social commentary or gives good self-psychoanalysis. Just not too much of anything. I'd like a character that's a bit more quiet and mysterious. A bit like Max Payne in MP3. I really enjoyed listening to his internal monologues. Come to think of it he complained a lot but it seemed really justified as in a bitter way. Actually, I think I just completely contradicted myself. For some reason I enjoyed Max Payne but I didn't enjoy Michael as much as I thought I would. Maybe it was because of his family. All the arguing and bickering was like watching a British soap opera on steroids.

 

Maybe a darker character based on a Travis Bickle type. Lonesome, unpredictable, suffers from insomnia, is a little mentally ill and thinks whatever he is doing is justified even though it sort of contradicts himself.

 

 

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Jimbatron

There hasn't been a badly developed R* character to date IMHO.

 

None of them are nice people, but when some people complained about Michael or Trevor it did bemuse me. You shouldn't really like any of them - they're all murderers. We play from a tight third person perspective, we do not become them. They are all bad people, what matters to me is they are well written complex characters.

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Shadowfennekin

Not bitching about everything he's asked to do. *looks at Franklin*

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Mister Pink

There hasn't been a badly developed R* character to date IMHO.

 

None of them are nice people, but when some people complained about Michael or Trevor it did bemuse me. You shouldn't really like any of them - they're all murderers. We play from a tight third person perspective, we do not become them. They are all bad people, what matters to me is they are well written complex characters.

 

There's no reason why we can't like our anti-heros. It worked well in Tony Montana in Scarface, Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver or on a lighter note Dave Brent in The Office.

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The Dedito Gae

Nagging and self-loathing characters. Characters that talk too much and whine and bicker a lot.

This, Michael got so annoying with the act, it was always "poor me" "i miss my family" and that little dialogue he has with Franklin, "if you don't have something to whine about, life would be boring"

Who the f*ck wrote this sh*t?

 

Niko was grounded with the self loathing, Michael is just a whining bitch.

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Mister Pink

 

Nagging and self-loathing characters. Characters that talk too much and whine and bicker a lot.

This, Michael got so annoying with the act, it was always "poor me" "i miss my family" and that little dialogue he has with Franklin, "if you don't have something to whine about, life would be boring"

Who the f*ck wrote this sh*t?

 

Niko was grounded with the self loathing, Michael is just a whining bitch.

 

 

I agree. While I can see the appeal of this in a film or taking influence from The Sopranos, I'm not too sure it translated in to the game.

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Jimbatron

 

Nagging and self-loathing characters. Characters that talk too much and whine and bicker a lot.

This, Michael got so annoying with the act, it was always "poor me" "i miss my family" and that little dialogue he has with Franklin, "if you don't have something to whine about, life would be boring"

Who the f*ck wrote this sh*t?

 

Niko was grounded with the self loathing, Michael is just a whining bitch.

I don't know. I think I'd have a bit of a moan if I had to bunk down in Trevor's trailer...

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Nagging and self-loathing characters. Characters that talk too much and whine and bicker a lot.

This, Michael got so annoying with the act, it was always "poor me" "i miss my family" and that little dialogue he has with Franklin, "if you don't have something to whine about, life would be boring"

Who the f*ck wrote this sh*t?

 

 

if there is no challange in life, its boring. whining just helps deal with screw ups, which are natural. personally I didnt mind Michael being as he is. the one who is ultimately annoying is Lamar. ungratefull fruit.

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The Dedito Gae

I don't know. I think I'd have a bit of a moan if I had to bunk down in Trevor's trailer...

He was cying before that, he has no excuse, he brought all his misery on himself.

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Fuzzknuckles

I would prefer to not play as a bitter, twisted, cynical jumped up prick like Michael ever again.

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Pedinhuh

Well let's see:

 

-A character that is NOT self-concious about himself and/or his action;

-Constantly whine about anything or everything without a proper reason to do so;

-Acts dumb most of time and needs to follow orders to acomplish anything;

-Is not aware of his/her actions and faults as a person, and keeps wondering why other people find him/her repulsive/boring/hareful/etc...;

-Thinks of himself/herself higher than the others when in fact, they are lower or at the very least, on the same level;

-Is a bully, prick even to their own friends;

-Tries too hard to be edgy(although the writters are to blame for this);

-Is overall unstable, prone to fits of rage instead of keeping it's cool;

-Lacks critical sense, is not wise/smart/intelligent and lacks quick thinking to solve problems when they surface;

-Is a backseat driver for most of the story;

-Keeps reminding the others and himself/herself of his/her "dark and troubled past" when they should have learned from and got over it already.

-Ears up every sh*t people throw at him/her and doesn't stand up for himself/herself.

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GTA-Biker

I don't want a character who is:

-a forced badass (Trevor)

-crazy just to justify inconsistency and/or forced edginess and controversy (Trevor again)

-a whiny bitch (all 3 GTA 5 protagonists)

-a 24/7 tool for the government agents (GTA 5 trio again)

-a bland stereotype (Franklin)

-an ass kisser to his boss (Tony Cipriani)

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Majestic81

I dont like bitching and whining, or being a pussy like CJ. Characters like Tommy, Niko, Johnny are more to my liking. Standing up for themselves.

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Megumi

No f*cking misogyny like that sh*t in V.

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Real_Badgirl

Everything about Trevor is what I don't want in a protagonist. Damn near everything about him is irritating, and I don't ever want to play as someone like him again.

 

I also don't want to play as someone who whines constantly, is a little bitch or someone who is openly and viciously racist/sexist/homophobic etc.

 

This will sound very superficial, but I don't want to play as a gross, ugly and unwashed protagonist like Trevor again. Playing as someone like Johnny who looks like he's had his nose broken dozens of times and taken knife swipes to the face? Totally fine. Playing as someone like Trevor who never bathes, has awful hygiene and wears the same filthy clothes for days on end? Noooooooooo.

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The Dedito Gae

This will sound very superficial, but I don't want to play as a gross, ugly and unwashed protagonist like Trevor again. Playing as someone like Johnny who looks like he's had his nose broken dozens of times and taken knife swipes to the face? Totally fine. Playing as someone like Trevor who never bathes, has awful hygiene and wears the same filthy clothes for days on end? Noooooooooo.

Both characters are equally dirty, why are you making a distinction that doesn't exist?

Both characters wear the same clothes all the time (Johnny might more), both characters have a face full of scars and both lack hygiene (look at his idle animations and Stubb's cutcenes).

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Shadowfennekin

I don't want a character who is:

 

-an ass kisser to his boss (Tony Cipriani)

 

Agreed on that one lol. I hate ass kissers

I dont like bitching and whining, or being a pussy like CJ. Characters like Tommy, Niko, Johnny are more to my liking. Standing up for themselves.

 

Mhmmm. Don't like how CJ always acted like a bitch when somebody held a gun at him and how he nearly shat himself when he saw Toreno and begged him not to kill him. All the other characters forced the gun out of their hand or knock them out.

 

 

This will sound very superficial, but I don't want to play as a gross, ugly and unwashed protagonist like Trevor again. Playing as someone like Johnny who looks like he's had his nose broken dozens of times and taken knife swipes to the face? Totally fine. Playing as someone like Trevor who never bathes, has awful hygiene and wears the same filthy clothes for days on end? Noooooooooo.

Both characters are equally dirty, why are you making a distinction that doesn't exist?

Both characters wear the same clothes all the time (Johnny might more), both characters have a face full of scars and both lack hygiene (look at his idle animations and Stubb's cutcenes).

 

 

This. It was rather obvious Johnny never bathed. The places he lived at didn't even have showers

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Charlottes

i dont really want them to try and do what they were going for with Trevor which was kind of like, an edgy, shock value character just for the sake of it?

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Konata Inoue

I would just like to see another character like Tommy or Niko.

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PhillBellic

Another Trevor type Protagonist is someone who I don't want to see again, ever!

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The Dedito Gae

No f*cking misogyny like that sh*t in V.

Fun fact: No protagonist in V is mysoginist.
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Official General

I just don't want a protagonist that's always f*cking moaning, complaining, or whining. Both Michael and Franklin were guilty of that in their own different ways.

 

And I definitely don't want anymore stupid, unnecessary wild character traits like what Trevor had too. In fact everything about Trevor I never want to see again.

 

I'd rather see the return of a protagonist that is ruthless, highly ambitious, murderous, but charismatic too.

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LadyofSky

I'd rather not see V's protagonists back at all. It was impossible to connect, and the family issues were best left for TV.

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Jimbatron

You know, I didn't even mind Jack Marston.

 

Except him constantly saying "work you damn nag". For some reason that was really iritating. If it had been on the PC I'd have used OpenIV to remove that line altogether.

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Failure

I don't want the protagonist to care for anyone else besides him. Having vulnerable friends, cousins or family is just a big burden... I am getting tired of the 'Save them from the attackers' missions.

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Tonguegirl

The only Protag' I liked in V was Trevor, but I really hated the fact that he was always dirty and scabby. Even when I put him in a nice suit he always looked filthy. I think I would have preferred it if his and Michaels roles were reversed. Trevor living it up in a nice mansion and taking Franklin under his wing, and Michael and his family living out in the sticks in Witsec.

 

No family commitments would be nice, and as other posts have mentioned, less whining and self-pity. And absolutely no Tonyas' or Lamars'.

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018361

I was thinking of having a silent Protagonist like Claude again. That or someone like Tommy Vercetti - That guy knows how to get stuff done.

 

No more Gimmicky whiny and shock value characters like Niko, Trevor, Michael, Franklin, etc. Just someone who's a badass that can get stuff done and take charge of a situation. Pls No more of the characters bending over to take it deep from the government. That storyline is getting so old. Just someone who is a clever madman who just doesn't care for society or it's values.

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Fallcreek

Having a mute for a protagonist would be absolutely boring. I hate it when developers do that, then state their reasoning as "You're the main character!". It's ridiculous, and dull.

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