GTA ONLINE has generated over half a billion dollars in revenue

[saintsrow]

I was nice to support Rockstar by buying my fourth 20 dollar shark card just to be nice when I didnt even need it. (cause I made 70 million legit career money) And what do I get in return? My SIXTH bad sport sentence ! So wow, its nice to show off my new Bennys van in an empty bad sport lobby.

 

They seriously need to do away with Bad Sports, They need to make it a 3 day ban each time. Not in doubling increments to where youre looking months down the road even years to get back in. Some of the most loyal players and customers right there they are locking out of the main servers.

 

If they dont want my money anymore, I understand. (sarcasm)

Rockstar could make a ton of money by allowing players to buy their way out of Bad Sport using Shark Cards. It would be like a fine, rather than jail time.

 

It could be a $20 shark card for the first offense and then double from there. Hell, just one errant rich kid could provide Rockstar's entire online income for a month, after getting thrown back into BS for the 20th time or so.

[DrSweatySphincter]

congrats

*hops back into hydra

[BRAAAP_STUTUTU]

 

I would be interested in knowing what percentage of game copies sold (225 million) bought Sharkcards?

 

You really think 225m people bought GTA V?

 

if that isnt a typo,damn...

[Hunter]

One person in software engineering doesn't make all the decisions. It's a group effort. They have tons of ideas as they have said while The Benz was absent. They have seen what makes their audience buy into the product. They know we what want and I'm positive they scour the Internet to see what we like and what we hate. It would be stupid as hell if they discarded all the data and feedback given by the GTA community. I have been following this too and unless I have missed something, you all are making a monster out of Take-Two Interactive without any supporting evidence of deception. All you have to go on is what the media sites say and we all know how the media does stories: they focus on the negative aspect of the story. Relax people and grab an eCola and a Meteorite pie. Let's just wait it out and see what happens...

Hmm, I'll keep my pitchfork at arm's reach.

[ELNAATH12232007]

@Saintsrow, lol, and If it was like a bond, and I managed to stay out of trouble, can I get my money back? lol

 

Seriously, come to think, they should have treated bad sport like a realistic arrest and prison. You bond your in game money to a certain amount and you get it back if you manage to stay out of trouble . Theres so much more they could have done with that and they could use that prison for something else other than breaking out Rashkovsky . The prison sees so little action online, its a shame.

 

Makes me want to play Riot COD, base 13 map, Advanced Warfare, Has a stunning chainlink, break out into daylight feel

Edited April 13, 2016 by ELNAATH12232007

[PvTails]

R* games are never gonna feel the same without The Benz on board. This is a fact

You mean Rockstar North*

 

I don't get why everyone jumps to conclusions.

No one knows what really happened behind those doors.

If you pick a side you must be very dumb to believe it because it could easily be a lie.

 

Only time will tell the truth with the next Rockstar North project.

[redpoint]

So I guess your against a company making a profit. The scale of budget they will have for future titles will be heavily decided by the amounts that V makes. The more revenue comes in, the better future titles will be.

 

So the richer they are the better the games will be?

 

What a generalised and idiotic comment!

 

The richer they are, the more diverse their games will be as they try to pander to a wider and wider audience, making it less about what the title originally was about and more about meeting everyone's pretentious needs

 

Around £200 million of the last budget was spent purely on bloody advertising, you couldn't take a sh*t in England for example without seeing an ad for GTA V, it was on buses, billboards, TVs, I swear a new pair of trainers I bought had the logo on the bottom! That's got nothing to do with the game, cos spoiler alert, when it came out it was sh*t!

 

I could care less about they're budget, I care more about them making a crime empire simulator, and waving your paper bills in their face isn't gonna make that any more likely.

[saintsrow]

 

Logic suggests that if they make a sh*tload of money off this game then they'll make the next one pretty much the same thing. If they can get away with something that has as many bugs as this game and still make money, then why the hell would they bother fixing it?

 

They need a good system architect, preferably someone who understands the need for frameworks in large applications. Just that basic, sensible approach would have stopped the vast majority of bugs from ever happening. And don't even get me started on the sh*tty connection.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I will never be a day-1 customer of any Rockstar game, unless the seriously get their act together over the next few titles. In fact, I doubt I'll ever buy another Rockstar game brand new. I'd rather buy it 2nd hand so they don't get a penny of my money.

That logic doesn't flow, though... because they made a sh*t load of money with San Andreas, and made the next game very different, then made a sh*t load of money with GTA IV, and made the next game very different...

 

There will be microtransactions. Yes. But to expect GTA to end up as a Madden or Call of Duty type of game, where you're pretty much playing the identical game every year aside from different items and maps, well, I REALLY don't think we have anything to worry about.

 

I also wouldn't worry about Rockstar's inner turmoil - GTA is too big to fail. It makes way too much money for the series to just fall apart. SOMEONE will step in and resume business as usual, or they will hire the best of the best, or whatever. Whatever it takes, there will be a GTA 6, and it will be a significant upgrade in many ways, because that's what Rockstar does with the GTA series. (Except Vice City, there wasn't a major significant change made there, but it came out a year after GTA III.)

 

Rockstar has already complained about how hard (or non-profitable) it is for them to create story DLC, and heists. We have already seen that it takes them 5 years to create a new story and 6 years to create the promised heists.

 

So really, online twitch is pretty much all they are going to do from now on. Profit.

 

Given that, maybe the best thing we could wish from Rockstar (and we wouldn't get it anyway) would be a beautiful new open world map every year.

 

I'd pay for new maps, by themselvess. I don't need more Trevor, or more Adversary modes.

[Hotband]

Looks like R* was right about saying that GTAO would have the effects as GTA 3 had to the gaming industry as a whole. This will become their cash cow from now on and will almost certainly get future game Devs to think about this new 'model' R* has created.. I think future GTA titles won't even have a singleplayer because of this.

[Schumy7]

They have earned that much. Still they banning people for getting couple of bucks modded money xD

[Non Fiction]

One person in software engineering doesn't make all the decisions. It's a group effort. They have tons of ideas as they have said while The Benz was absent. They have seen what makes their audience buy into the product. They know we what want and I'm positive they scour the Internet to see what we like and what we hate. It would be stupid as hell if they discarded all the data and feedback given by the GTA community. I have been following this too and unless I have missed something, you all are making a monster out of Take-Two Interactive without any supporting evidence of deception. All you have to go on is what the media sites say and we all know how the media does stories: they focus on the negative aspect of the story. Relax people and grab an eCola and a Meteorite pie. Let's just wait it out and see what happens...

1st it wasn't just him who got fired it was his software team as well. 2nd I'm not sure if "they" truly know what we(18+) want. A lot of their additions to CG were over the top. Please explain to me why they had to make passive mode transparent instead of just making it work correctly? I'm not going to go on about what things they should've left alone but I'm willing to bet Benz was the one who helped them walk the fine line of realism and not being too over the top. You are correct with the "let's just wait and see what happens" cause that's about all we can do.

Edited April 13, 2016 by Non Fiction

[livejoker]

not that i want to get off topic here ... but ... it isn't just my opinion on some of these:

 

manhunt - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/manhunt

bully - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/bully-scholarship-edition

LA Noire - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/la-noire-the-complete-edition(ok - this one actually did ok review-wise)

L.A Noire has 7.9 user review score and the top critic reviews give it 80-92 yet it did "ok"? I understand that it might reflect that with sales (it wasn't a big hit) but gameplay wise it's a pretty significant technology that they've played with. So these games are sh*t because they got average scores? I mean, it's easy to pick a dev's worst games and compare it to its top billing. I took a look at my gaming shelf and eyed Bethesda on a few boxes so I decided to look up some games they made. Well, technically it's Bethesda Softworks but it's still Bethesda, right? Screw the rules on who is the proper dev seeing you put R* games all under one flag (L.A Noire was actually Team Bondi and published by R* but f*ck it let's put them on the same ship). Did you know Bethesda Softworks made a game called IHRA Drag Racing? It's got very poor reviews, like a score of 35. I guess Bethesda sucks if we're going by your logic of "well it's a sh*t game because metacritic decides for me."

 

Please let me know if I'm getting this wrong/twisting your words. I want to be as clear as possible. At the end of the day it all comes down to what you enjoy to play but it doesn't hurt to give proper recognition to games that shape up the industry we adore so much. Just don't go around saying some games suck and bringing metacritic up to help defend yourself on why the games suck. Tell us why it sucked, why you're upset about what it came out as and how it could've been improved. Don't just flat out pick the least popular games of a company and attack them as a whole because of it. I'm sure in your whole life you've done nothing but good things.

 

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox/ihra-drag-racing-sportsman-edition

Edited April 13, 2016 by livejoker

[ELNAATH12232007]

Hey Im late to the news, just saw that Benz lawsuit just now, Yeah, this is pretty big but no comments on the main article. No one in the public apparently cares, they just play the game. Hes been there since GTA 3, but he took off on that long sabbatical., Will be following this....

Edited April 13, 2016 by ELNAATH12232007

[zoso80]

This is very revealing. You love R* microtransaction model but won't explain. You bait and make at times laughable comments, but won't defend them. Why be here then? Bored? Contrarian? Like seeing people get kerfuffled?

 

Let me put it this way - the model you love destroys what GTA as a franchise was about. GTA wasn't only about buying expensive items to generate more microtransactions and excessive free roam wars. GTA as a franchise had story arcs, interesting characters, crime, and biting satire. Since 2013 GTA:O has been moving away from everything except the satire. Heists have been the only DLC that really honored the GTA franchise legacy. You don't defend it because you can't. If you had some gumption, you'd at least try. You may like your freeroam wars, you may like buying your expensive clothes, you may buy more shark cards to fund it all, but in the end you are supporting the destruction of the what the franchise was.

 

You may love what GTA:O is evolving towards, I don't. It is a cash grab by a company who has found it's license to print money on the backs of people who just want to shoot each other and buy sh*t. It's genius, yes. Meanwhile the legacy and the history of what the franchise was is left behind for the run and gunners and bling babies. I want the philosophical legacy of the game honored and respected. I will even PAY for DLC's that are engaging, advance the franchise and bring new playable content (missions, heists, new) to the table in a manner worthy of the franchise.

 

Microtransactions are like meth to this franchise.

 

If you "love" that, you like PVP and are not a legacy GTA player. Legacy GTA players want more than run and gun and buy sh*t targeted for casual kids.

 

Sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.scribd.com/doc/308190056/Leslie-The Benz-v-Take-Two-and-Rockstar-Games

Those cashcards are selling like hotcakes.
This will probably influence the direction of GTA6

Awesome. Hopefully means more adults will play VI.

I don't even know where to start. If I understand, this means that TTWO is doing fine with an incredibly simple-minded online game mode that is basically just children (up through high school and beyond) shooting at each other and blowing each other up, every day, from the time they get home from school, until their parents unplug their console at midnight.

That's as deep as it is. Even if, in some future GTA Online, they put out some cars that I really liked, so much that I would buy a $40 shark card so I could buy those cars and happily drive them around, I wouldn't buy them, just because some jet pussy would blow them up in less than 5 minutes. GTA Online is degenerating into a joke.

Start where you like. I will finish.

You don't have to agree with me.

We are all different people with different mindsets.

People call me a troll because I don't feel the need to explain my opinion.

I like that shark cards exist. I would pay for certain outfits if they existed.

You think it's turning into a joke.

I disagree. I love the current model.

 

Edited April 13, 2016 by zoso80

[ELNAATH12232007]

@Zoso, get used to things changing. Already console game developers are being lured to phone app games (similiar to Candy Crush and Kardashian app dress up) cause thats where the money is. Simple Smart phone games will make more money than consoles and PCs. Then you have the Virtual reality market which will take us back to duck hunt style.

 

I say take whatever and enjoy whatever we enjoy now cause the world is catering to the more simple to garner more market and make more money. PVPs are simple and straightforward for majority to follow, Majority do not care for a engaging game, RPG, or storyline or long heists, Tom Clancys The Division was slammed by a few popular critics for being too loot grindy, too RPG, and too much story line to follow and build up. The attention span of people is at a all time low.

 

No more old school GTA Im afraid. its why GTA 5 online exists. , and its only going to get worse. Its all about shoot em up or dress em up games now,

Edited April 13, 2016 by ELNAATH12232007

[XenoxX]

 

R* games are never gonna feel the same without The Benz on board. This is a fact

You mean Rockstar North*

 

I don't get why everyone jumps to conclusions.

No one knows what really happened behind those doors.

If you pick a side you must be very dumb to believe it because it could easily be a lie.

 

Only time will tell the truth with the next Rockstar North project.

 

Rockstar in general, there is NO Rockstar title The Benz is not credited on, Red Dead Redemption was supposed to be a seperate project but it got stuck in development hell and The Benz had to help out Sam Houser as he was stuck with the game.

After Leslie started working on the game with his team, they fixed it up within a short time and made it ready for presentations to Microsoft and Sony.

 

But yeah it is true The Benz may have been the cause of Heists being delayed multiple times, but after all he just wanted them to exceed quality and expectations, R* North released the first Heists trailer when Leslie had allready left the company, i assume Leslie had a lot bigger plans for Heists.

 

This is very revealing. You love R* microtransaction model but won't explain. You bait and make at times laughable comments, but won't defend them. Why be here then? Bored? Contrarian? Like seeing people get kerfuffled?

 

Let me put it this way - the model you love destroys what GTA as a franchise was about. GTA wasn't only about buying expensive items to generate more microtransactions and excessive free roam wars. GTA as a franchise had story arcs, interesting characters, crime, and biting satire. Since 2013 GTA:O has been moving away from everything except the satire. Heists have been the only DLC that really honored the GTA franchise legacy. You don't defend it because you can't. If you had some gumption, you'd at least try. You may like your freeroam wars, you may like buying your expensive clothes, you may buy more shark cards to fund it all, but in the end you are supporting the destruction of the what the franchise was.

 

You may love what GTA:O is evolving towards, I don't. It is a cash grab by a company who has found it's license to print money on the backs of people who just want to shoot each other and buy sh*t. It's genius, yes. Meanwhile the legacy and the history of what the franchise was is left behind for the run and gunners and bling babies. I want the philosophical legacy of the game honored and respected. I will even PAY for DLC's that are engaging, advance the franchise and bring new playable content (missions, heists, new) to the table in a manner worthy of the franchise.

 

Microtransactions are like meth to this franchise.

 

If you "love" that, you like PVP and are not a legacy GTA player. Legacy GTA players want more than run and gun and buy sh*t targeted for casual kids.

 

Sorry.

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.scribd.com/doc/308190056/Leslie-The Benz-v-Take-Two-and-Rockstar-Games

 

Those cashcards are selling like hotcakes.

This will probably influence the direction of GTA6

Awesome. Hopefully means more adults will play VI.

 

I don't even know where to start. If I understand, this means that TTWO is doing fine with an incredibly simple-minded online game mode that is basically just children (up through high school and beyond) shooting at each other and blowing each other up, every day, from the time they get home from school, until their parents unplug their console at midnight.

 

That's as deep as it is. Even if, in some future GTA Online, they put out some cars that I really liked, so much that I would buy a $40 shark card so I could buy those cars and happily drive them around, I wouldn't buy them, just because some jet pussy would blow them up in less than 5 minutes. GTA Online is degenerating into a joke.

Start where you like. I will finish.

 

You don't have to agree with me.

 

We are all different people with different mindsets.

 

People call me a troll because I don't feel the need to explain my opinion.

 

I like that shark cards exist. I would pay for certain outfits if they existed.

 

You think it's turning into a joke.

 

I disagree. I love the current model.

 

 

Actually with The Benz leaving we may see new Story arks, similar to Lamar Missions, as the Housers like to focus on Story and writing.

 

But anyway, my respect for R* is gone now, I even sold "my" f*cking Shares of TakeTwo, rightfully so as the f*cking stock dropped by 3.5 % after Leslie initiating the sue.

@Zoso, get used to things changing. Already console game developers are being lured to phone app games (similiar to Candy Crush and Kardashian app dress up) cause thats where the money is. Simple Smart phone games will make more money than consoles and PCs. Then you have the Virtual reality market which will take us back to duck hunt style.

 

I say take whatever and enjoy whatever we enjoy now cause the world is catering to the more simple to garner more market and make more money. PVPs are simple and straightforward for majority to follow, Majority do not care for a engaging game, RPG, or storyline or long heists, Tom Clancys The Division was slammed by a few popular critics for being too loot grindy, too RPG, and too much story line to follow and build up. The attention span of people is at a all time low.

 

No more old school GTA Im afraid. its why GTA 5 online exists. , and its only going to get worse. Its all about shoot em up or dress em up games now,

No, The Division was slammed because it focused on grinding and getting loot, and because the missions were repetetive.

[Beartooth Bek]

 

Funny how people rant at the Houser brothers for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's in the wrong...

 

I'll leave it in the middle, but fact is The Benz left the company, and didn't have any rights towards royalties, unless decided otherwise by R*s president, which is SH.

The Benz put his signature under that agreement back in 2009, period.

Are you trolling or did you not read all of the emails? RDR would've never been what it is today without Benz. They literally begged Benz to help them with the game because they didn't know WTF they were doing without him. So he comes and helps them and within months the game is finished...And you have the nerve to call him a money whore when he asks for his fair share of the profits for it? I guess you didn't see the profits spread sheet either? Also him leaving the company wasn't his idea, Rock* offered him a paid sabbatical for his hard work on GTA V, then when he tried to come back to work they changed his key code on him. Go do an internet search on the facts then come back here with some credible information.

 

I'm sorry, where did I call The Benz a money whore? And did you not read the sentences 'could just as well be' and 'I'll leave it in the middle'?

 

/Discussion

Edited April 13, 2016 by Bekjenet

[Non Fiction]

 

 

Funny how people rant at the Houser brothers for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's in the wrong...

 

I'll leave it in the middle, but fact is The Benz left the company, and didn't have any rights towards royalties, unless decided otherwise by R*s president, which is SH.

The Benz put his signature under that agreement back in 2009, period.

Are you trolling or did you not read all of the emails? RDR would've never been what it is today without Benz. They literally begged Benz to help them with the game because they didn't know WTF they were doing without him. So he comes and helps them and within months the game is finished...And you have the nerve to call him a money whore when he asks for his fair share of the profits for it? I guess you didn't see the profits spread sheet either? Also him leaving the company wasn't his idea, Rock* offered him a paid sabbatical for his hard work on GTA V, then when he tried to come back to work they changed his key code on him. Go do an internet search on the facts then come back here with some credible information.

 

I'm sorry, where did I call The Benz a money whore? And did you not read the sentences 'could just as well be' and 'I'll leave it in the middle'?

 

/Discussion

 

"Funny how people rant at the Houser brother for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's is in the wrong."

 

Does that sentence not suggest that The Benz could be a money whore as well?

Edited April 13, 2016 by Non Fiction

[PvTails]

 

 

 

Funny how people rant at the Houser brothers for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's in the wrong...

 

I'll leave it in the middle, but fact is The Benz left the company, and didn't have any rights towards royalties, unless decided otherwise by R*s president, which is SH.

The Benz put his signature under that agreement back in 2009, period.

Are you trolling or did you not read all of the emails? RDR would've never been what it is today without Benz. They literally begged Benz to help them with the game because they didn't know WTF they were doing without him. So he comes and helps them and within months the game is finished...And you have the nerve to call him a money whore when he asks for his fair share of the profits for it? I guess you didn't see the profits spread sheet either? Also him leaving the company wasn't his idea, Rock* offered him a paid sabbatical for his hard work on GTA V, then when he tried to come back to work they changed his key code on him. Go do an internet search on the facts then come back here with some credible information.

 

I'm sorry, where did I call The Benz a money whore? And did you not read the sentences 'could just as well be' and 'I'll leave it in the middle'?

 

/Discussion

 

"Funny how people rant at the Houser brother for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's is in the wrong."

 

Does that sentence not suggest that The Benz could be a money whore as well?

 

Everyone is a money whore tbh.

[shadowoperative]

 

 

 

 

Funny how people rant at the Houser brothers for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's in the wrong...

 

I'll leave it in the middle, but fact is The Benz left the company, and didn't have any rights towards royalties, unless decided otherwise by R*s president, which is SH.

The Benz put his signature under that agreement back in 2009, period.

Are you trolling or did you not read all of the emails? RDR would've never been what it is today without Benz. They literally begged Benz to help them with the game because they didn't know WTF they were doing without him. So he comes and helps them and within months the game is finished...And you have the nerve to call him a money whore when he asks for his fair share of the profits for it? I guess you didn't see the profits spread sheet either? Also him leaving the company wasn't his idea, Rock* offered him a paid sabbatical for his hard work on GTA V, then when he tried to come back to work they changed his key code on him. Go do an internet search on the facts then come back here with some credible information.

 

I'm sorry, where did I call The Benz a money whore? And did you not read the sentences 'could just as well be' and 'I'll leave it in the middle'?

 

/Discussion

 

"Funny how people rant at the Houser brother for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's is in the wrong."

 

Does that sentence not suggest that The Benz could be a money whore as well?

 

Everyone is a money whore tbh.

 

 

Which is what I said earlier. Everyone wants to make all the money they can.

[Retroview1955]

They have earned that much. Still they banning people for getting couple of bucks modded money xD

They have made a lot of money, but they have to pay their employees and fund their company. Making video game with the technology RSG uses ain't cheap. They don't just pocket the money, they invest it back into the company after they pay their bills.

 

You get banned for manipulating the game. There is something called Terms of Use and when you cheat, you are in violation of that.

Edited April 13, 2016 by Retroview1955

[burger_mike]

 

Supply drops in AW and BO3 are doing the same, sadly.

You gotta pay for supply drops in cod now!?! What the f*ck?

 

 

If you're thinking it's care packages that you get in game with a kill streak, it's not. It's something else where you get guns and camos and other things from, like a case in CS:GO.

 

No, you don't have to pay, though it's nearly impossible to get anything good if you don't.

Edited April 13, 2016 by the_sniper_29

[saintsrow]

 

No, The Division was slammed because it focused on grinding and getting loot, and because the missions were repetetive.

 

Hmmmm, now what game does this remind me of? I'm trying to remember...

 

[Non Fiction]

 

 

 

 

 

Funny how people rant at the Houser brothers for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's in the wrong...

 

I'll leave it in the middle, but fact is The Benz left the company, and didn't have any rights towards royalties, unless decided otherwise by R*s president, which is SH.

The Benz put his signature under that agreement back in 2009, period.

Are you trolling or did you not read all of the emails? RDR would've never been what it is today without Benz. They literally begged Benz to help them with the game because they didn't know WTF they were doing without him. So he comes and helps them and within months the game is finished...And you have the nerve to call him a money whore when he asks for his fair share of the profits for it? I guess you didn't see the profits spread sheet either? Also him leaving the company wasn't his idea, Rock* offered him a paid sabbatical for his hard work on GTA V, then when he tried to come back to work they changed his key code on him. Go do an internet search on the facts then come back here with some credible information.

 

I'm sorry, where did I call The Benz a money whore? And did you not read the sentences 'could just as well be' and 'I'll leave it in the middle'?

 

/Discussion

 

"Funny how people rant at the Houser brother for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's is in the wrong."

 

Does that sentence not suggest that The Benz could be a money whore as well?

 

Everyone is a money whore tbh.

 

Which is what I said earlier. Everyone wants to make all the money they can.

Both of yall responses add nothing to this conversation. Reply with substance or please stay out of this convo. All I was stating is that from the evidence presented, all Benz is asking for his fair share. Now if he was asking for $500 million then maybe I could agree with you two. Edited April 14, 2016 by Non Fiction

[XenoxX]

 

 

No, The Division was slammed because it focused on grinding and getting loot, and because the missions were repetetive.

 

Hmmmm, now what game does this remind me of? I'm trying to remember...

 

I am thankfull they left "loot" out of GTA Online I hope I speak for many when I say f*ck RPG mechanics.

I am sure Leslie had great plans with Online and wanted to make Heists even better, but that would have cost time and money.

 

Other than that I don't actualy think GTA Online focuses on grinding directly, it rather focuses on Free Roam wars, Free Mode Events etc. and competetive modes...

Unfortunately hpwever a lot of people play it wrong and it lost a lot of its identity at some point.

Edited April 14, 2016 by XenoxX

[ash-274]

 

So I guess your against a company making a profit. The scale of budget they will have for future titles will be heavily decided by the amounts that V makes. The more revenue comes in, the better future titles will be.

They made a billion in the first 3 days lol. Profit isn't an issue.

 

They grossed that much.

Retailers take their cut

Distributors take their cut

And it was in development and only costing them money for how many years?

 

Yes, they made a profit on it, but if you think that billion was mostly spoken-for by the time it came in, well...

[shadowoperative]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Funny how people rant at the Houser brothers for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's in the wrong...

 

I'll leave it in the middle, but fact is The Benz left the company, and didn't have any rights towards royalties, unless decided otherwise by R*s president, which is SH.

The Benz put his signature under that agreement back in 2009, period.

Are you trolling or did you not read all of the emails? RDR would've never been what it is today without Benz. They literally begged Benz to help them with the game because they didn't know WTF they were doing without him. So he comes and helps them and within months the game is finished...And you have the nerve to call him a money whore when he asks for his fair share of the profits for it? I guess you didn't see the profits spread sheet either? Also him leaving the company wasn't his idea, Rock* offered him a paid sabbatical for his hard work on GTA V, then when he tried to come back to work they changed his key code on him. Go do an internet search on the facts then come back here with some credible information.

 

I'm sorry, where did I call The Benz a money whore? And did you not read the sentences 'could just as well be' and 'I'll leave it in the middle'?

 

/Discussion

 

"Funny how people rant at the Houser brother for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's is in the wrong."

 

Does that sentence not suggest that The Benz could be a money whore as well?

 

Everyone is a money whore tbh.

 

Which is what I said earlier. Everyone wants to make all the money they can.

Both of yall responses add nothing to this conversation. Reply with substance or please stay out of this convo. All I was stating is that from the evidence presented, all Benz is asking for his fair share. Now if he was asking for $500 million then maybe I could agree with you two.

30% of what hundreds of people made is not a fair share.

 

It's pure greed.

[Guest]

This thread is hilarious. A lot of you really are letting this game and what Rockstar do bother you. Been laughing the whole way through.

 

[XenoxX]

This thread is hilarious. A lot of you really are letting this game and what Rockstar do bother you. Been laughing the whole way through.

 

Of course it bothers me, this is the franchise I grew up with, Rockstar Games makes up a lot of the games I played in my childhood.

 

Should I just sit here and watch my favourite gaming framchise go down the toilet?

Edited April 14, 2016 by XenoxX

[shadowoperative]

 

This thread is hilarious. A lot of you really are letting this game and what Rockstar do bother you. Been laughing the whole way through.

 

Of course it bothers me, this is the franchise I grew up with, Rockstar Games makes up a lot of the games I played in my childhood.

 

Should I just sit here and watch my favourite gaming framchise go down the toilet?

What caused you to do this 180?

 

Pick a side and stick with it.