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Logic suggests that if they make a sh*tload of money off this game then they'll make the next one pretty much the same thing. If they can get away with something that has as many bugs as this game and still make money, then why the hell would they bother fixing it?

 

They need a good system architect, preferably someone who understands the need for frameworks in large applications. Just that basic, sensible approach would have stopped the vast majority of bugs from ever happening. And don't even get me started on the sh*tty connection.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I will never be a day-1 customer of any Rockstar game, unless the seriously get their act together over the next few titles. In fact, I doubt I'll ever buy another Rockstar game brand new. I'd rather buy it 2nd hand so they don't get a penny of my money.

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So many children, know-it-alls and crybabies ITT....

 

"Hurr durr no moar gud updatez onli Benny's cos Leslie iz gon waa"

"Me no like Rockstar now (Cockstar for the immature kids) coz Leslie not dere waaa"

"GTA6 will suck waa"

"Rockstar are greedy nd onli wont muny waaaa"

 

GTAO and the content being added into it has nothing to do with Leslie leaving at all, that's just between the Housers and him over what's there in the documents. If you feel that Grand Theft Auto, and R* as a whole are going to suffer in the long run, stop acting like a bunch of girls over it and stop crying and playing their games.

 

Stop acting like you know what's going on with the three of them and what will happen to Rockstar and their games in the future. Most of you claim to be adults but you really come across and a bunch of children, the very people you all claim to hate and blame for the type of Updates GTAO gets.

Sauce?

 

Oh yeah, Just like I thought.

 

Seriously, take it up with the b*tch and moan. No one cares about your petty whining.

 

LOL You're telling me? Nobody on this forums whines as much as you.

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Amazing to think that three years later and I haven't contributed one cent to that 500 million and it's the only game I play nowadays. If you just play the game and have a little patience you don't need to spend anything.

 

It's sad to see this infighting at Rockstar, but nothing last forever and money does change people, and we don't know the real reasons for these shifts in the direction.

 

All we can hope is that gta6 will be amazing, which I'm sure it will be. i personally hope GTA expands online even more. With GTA 5, i had no interest in story mode, I knew online was where I wanted to be, and it exceeded my expectations.

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R* games are never gonna feel the same without The Benz on board. This is a fact

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LOL You're telling me? Nobody on this forums whines as much as you.

 

 

 

You've got a problem with people voicing their opinions? Tough sh*t. Suck it up.

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LOL You're telling me? Nobody on this forums whines as much as you.

You've got a problem with people voicing their opinions? Tough sh*t. Suck it up.

 

When or where have I exhibited such thoughts? Please show me.

 

There's a difference between voicing an opinion, and mindless slander and voicing hate and "opinions" on things most of you know nothing about.

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Nearly the only games that R* makes that are any good are the GTA series ... Red Dead Redemption was OK ... midnight club was ok (not nearly as good as the NFS underground offerings of the time) ... Manhunt series / bully / LA Noir were all sh*t.

RDR was one of the biggest games of last-gen and possibly the best western game. Even those that don't like western could enjoy the game due to its deep story-telling, many side activities/missions and its beautiful world. Midnight Club has one of the best car customization I've seen and that's including any NFS game (only one that really changed the customization game was NFS Carbon with its shaping stuff). Manhunt was meant to be controversial, Bully has tons of content and L.A Noire was a step forward for technology. Just because YOU don't enjoy these games doesn't mean they're sh*t.

 

OMG - Ocarina of Time <-- hated that game! But .. I hate most Nintendo games ... so... starting with original Mario Brothers back in the 80's in the arcade.

I rest my case. Your opinion is just that; an opinion. While I respect that, I'm biased a bit to facts by respecting legendary games such as Ocarina and seeing what the game does to shape up gaming's culture. Seems you hate games that inspire other game makers and that's just sad.

 

@Elektra (above): I don't think you understand how important Benz played a role in R* games. "Looser?" Yeah, okay.

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When or where have I exhibited such thoughts? Please show me.

 

 

 

There's a difference between voicing an opinion, and mindless slander and voicing hate and "opinions" on things most of you know nothing about.

 

Let me guess:

 

"Rockstar is God; all hail Rockstar". That one probably counts as an opinion.

 

"Man, why did they force out one of the fathers of GTA? B*tch move". And I'll guess that one's not.

 

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black too. I mean, what the f**k is your post if not hateful and slanderous? Plus you most likely have the IQ of a gorilla, so stop telling people what they do and don't know about.

 

People will have their opinions, and you can cry about them all you want - they're not going anywhere. Cry harder maybe? On second thoughts, don't; nobody cares.

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This is the internet. Everyone tries to justify their whining while no one can.

 

It should have made more.

 

Designing awesome dlc costs a lot.

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@Elektra (above): I don't think you understand how important Benz played a role in R* games. "Looser?" Yeah, okay.

hes gone,games made,r* will get someone new who will have an important role on r* games happens all the time (on companies)

@grade-ahole I [email protected] all the time you should try it

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OMG - Ocarina of Time <-- hated that game! But .. I hate most Nintendo games ... so... starting with original Mario Brothers back in the 80's in the arcade.

I rest my case. Your opinion is just that; an opinion. While I respect that, I'm biased a bit to facts by respecting legendary games such as Ocarina and seeing what the game does to shape up gaming's culture. Seems you hate games that inspire other game makers and that's just sad.

 

@Elektra (above): I don't think you understand how important Benz played a role in R* games. "Looser?" Yeah, okay.

 

not that i want to get off topic here ... but ... it isn't just my opinion on some of these:

 

manhunt - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/manhunt

bully - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/bully-scholarship-edition

LA Noire - http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/la-noire-the-complete-edition(ok - this one actually did ok review-wise)

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LOL You're telling me? Nobody on this forums whines as much as you.

You've got a problem with people voicing their opinions? Tough sh*t. Suck it up.

 

When or where have I exhibited such thoughts? Please show me.

 

There's a difference between voicing an opinion, and mindless slander and voicing hate and "opinions" on things most of you know nothing about.

 

you arent seeing the big picture. The Benz leaving might not be that critical NOW, but in the near future, somebody is going the see the damage that they caused, which will be rockstar, and then, ultimately, the fans.

 

i know i f*cked up some comma's in that post.

 

 

@MR.FiddlesHimself Manhunt didnt do poor review wise, and bully is undisputedly a classic game.

and you only bothered to take scores from metacritic, instead of various reviews from other sites.

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If I see there isn't crouching in GTA VI, then I'm not buying it. I have a feeling they'll be keeping car flipping, passive mode and bad sport which are bad enough as they are.

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I'm glad they got rid of that looser now they can hire someone better

Great moderating job.

 

The gimmick remains while the post calling said gimmick out is removed.

 

Aaaaand it's gone, good.

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Funny how people rant at the Houser brothers for being money whores, while if you took the time to read through the document, you'll come to the conclusion that it could just as well be The Benz who's in the wrong...

 

I'll leave it in the middle, but fact is The Benz left the company, and didn't have any rights towards royalties, unless decided otherwise by R*s president, which is SH.

The Benz put his signature under that agreement back in 2009, period.

Are you trolling or did you not read all of the emails? RDR would've never been what it is today without Benz. They literally begged Benz to help them with the game because they didn't know WTF they were doing without him. So he comes and helps them and within months the game is finished...And you have the nerve to call him a money whore when he asks for his fair share of the profits for it? I guess you didn't see the profits spread sheet either? Also him leaving the company wasn't his idea, Rock* offered him a paid sabbatical for his hard work on GTA V, then when he tried to come back to work they changed his key code on him. Go do an internet search on the facts then come back here with some credible information.

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How much of a fuccboi do you have to be to plug your ears and go "LALALALALALALA HE LEFT THE COMPANY THE GAMES WILL BE GREAT AGAIN".

 

Take some f*cking minutes of your life and read the The Benz vs Rockstar document before spouting that f*cking nonsense.

 

That's what Xenox did, yep, THAT Xenox.

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When or where have I exhibited such thoughts? Please show me.

 

 

 

There's a difference between voicing an opinion, and mindless slander and voicing hate and "opinions" on things most of you know nothing about.

 

Let me guess:

 

"Rockstar is God; all hail Rockstar". That one probably counts as an opinion.

 

"Man, why did they force out one of the fathers of GTA? B*tch move". And I'll guess that one's not.

 

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black too. I mean, what the f**k is your post if not hateful and slanderous? Plus you most likely have the IQ of a gorilla, so stop telling people what they do and don't know about.

 

People will have their opinions, and you can cry about them all you want - they're not going anywhere. Cry harder maybe? On second thoughts, don't; nobody cares.

 

Again, where have I said people can't express their opinions? I don't have a say in what anyone on the internet does so you can f*ck off with all that. For someone that loves to talk sh*t about Rockstar because they haven't added your favorite virtual air vehicle, it's funny that you call my posts "hateful and slanderous".

 

None of you HONESTLY know whats going on With The Housers, Leslie or Rockstar, and that's the truth, yet most of you are acting like you're auditioning to become the next Judge Judy.

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So many children, know-it-alls and crybabies ITT....

 

"Hurr durr no moar gud updatez onli Benny's cos Leslie iz gon waa"

"Me no like Rockstar now (Cockstar for the immature kids) coz Leslie not dere waaa"

"GTA6 will suck waa"

"Rockstar are greedy nd onli wont muny waaaa"

 

GTAO and the content being added into it has nothing to do with Leslie leaving at all, that's just between the Housers and him over what's there in the documents. If you feel that Grand Theft Auto, and R* as a whole are going to suffer in the long run, stop acting like a bunch of girls over it and stop crying and playing their games.

 

Stop acting like you know what's going on with the three of them and what will happen to Rockstar and their games in the future. Most of you claim to be adults but you really come across and a bunch of children, the very people you all claim to hate and blame for the type of Updates GTAO gets.

Although probably a troll post, consider that the Benzie complaint was filed 4/12/16. And the allegations include an in depth factual history of r* and the realtionships at the highest level. Also consider that the story up to this point was that he went on leave and ultimately left on some what agreeable terms. That is comepletely shattered. Benzie was the master technican that has brought the game most have loved and played for years. Its normal to have some response and discuss it here on the forum. Just sayin.

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I was nice to support Rockstar by buying my fourth 20 dollar shark card just to be nice when I didnt even need it. (cause I made 70 million legit career money) And what do I get in return? My SIXTH bad sport sentence ! So wow, its nice to show off my new Bennys van in an empty bad sport lobby.

 

They seriously need to do away with Bad Sports, They need to make it a 3 day ban each time. Not in doubling increments to where youre looking months down the road even years to get back in. Some of the most loyal players and customers right there they are locking out of the main servers.

 

If they dont want my money anymore, I understand. (sarcasm)

Then behave yourself! I got chat banned 3 times and matchmaking restricted for calling people bitches and p*$$ies in freemode. The reason there's consequences in video games is so people will play the game knowing bad apples will be punished. How many people complain about the hackers on PC and threaten to leave the platform because they are not being dealt with? That being said, people that expect to drive freely in freemode without being hurt should just piss off, because the ones that are claiming to be friendly are the ones that end up sneaking a kill and leaving the session. That's why no one trusts no one in freeroam. I don't even trust people in contact missions. Edited by Retroview1955
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LOL You're telling me? Nobody on this forums whines as much as you.

You've got a problem with people voicing their opinions? Tough sh*t. Suck it up.

 

When or where have I exhibited such thoughts? Please show me.

 

There's a difference between voicing an opinion, and mindless slander and voicing hate and "opinions" on things most of you know nothing about.

 

you arent seeing the big picture. The Benz leaving might not be that critical NOW, but in the near future, somebody is going the see the damage that they caused, which will be rockstar, and then, ultimately, the fans.

 

i know i f*cked up some comma's in that post.

 

 

@MR.FiddlesHimself Manhunt didnt do poor review wise, and bully is undisputedly a classic game.

and you only bothered to take scores from metacritic, instead of various reviews from other sites.

 

 

No, I don't doubt that. If that e-mail is anything to go by, and Leslie is as great as everyone is making him out to be, then yeah, that's gonna hurt Rockstar in some point in the future.

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I was nice to support Rockstar by buying my fourth 20 dollar shark card just to be nice when I didnt even need it. (cause I made 70 million legit career money) And what do I get in return? My SIXTH bad sport sentence ! So wow, its nice to show off my new Bennys van in an empty bad sport lobby.

 

They seriously need to do away with Bad Sports, They need to make it a 3 day ban each time. Not in doubling increments to where youre looking months down the road even years to get back in. Some of the most loyal players and customers right there they are locking out of the main servers.

 

If they dont want my money anymore, I understand. (sarcasm)

Then behave yourself! I got chat banned 3 times and matchmaking restricted for calling people bitches and p*$$ies in freemode. The reason there's consequences in video games is so people will play the game knowing bad apples will be punished. That being said, people that expect to drive freely in freemode without being hurt should just piss off, because the ones that are claiming to be friendly are the ones that end up sneaking a kill and leaving the session. That's why no one trusts no one friend roam. I don't even trust people in contact missions either.You don't even need to worry about being chased in your vehicle because you can just flip it back over. Getaways aren't even a thing in GTA V man. Edited by und
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Again, where have I said people can't express their opinions? I don't have a say in what anyone on the internet does so you can f*ck off with all that. For someone that loves to talk sh*t about Rockstar because they haven't added your favorite virtual air vehicle, it's funny that you call my posts "hateful and slanderous".

 

 

 

None of you HONESTLY know whats going on With The Housers, Leslie or Rockstar, and that's the truth, yet most of you are acting like you're auditioning to become the next Judge Judy.

 

You verbally attack anyone who does, unless it happens to be some Rockstar apologist BS; for example:

 

Days Are Gone, on 13 Apr 2016 - 6:36 PM, said:snapback.png

So many children, know-it-alls and crybabies ITT....

 

"Hurr durr no moar gud updatez onli Benny's cos Leslie iz gon waa"

"Me no like Rockstar now (Cockstar for the immature kids) coz Leslie not dere waaa"

"GTA6 will suck waa"

"Rockstar are greedy nd onli wont muny waaaa"

 

People are entitled to hold the opinion that the next GTA might not be as good (seeing as the brain behind the games is gone).

 

People are also entitled to view them as a greedy company.

 

For your information, I hold much against them. Not only the lack of helicopters, but the lack of dedicated servers, lack of stability, clothes for female characters, the introduction of the homing launcher, the negligence of contact missions and PvE activities, etc.

 

So you can just f**k off with all that.

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In 2015 Nestle made ~$100B*, PepsiCo made ~$66B*, and Tyson Foods ~$37B*.

Let's make separate threads for each one of those companies so we can talk about how butt-hurt we are that we aren't making that money. I mean, $100,000,000,000 in profits is more than enough for Nestle. They need to give us all free Nesquick now.



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Logic suggests that if they make a sh*tload of money off this game then they'll make the next one pretty much the same thing. If they can get away with something that has as many bugs as this game and still make money, then why the hell would they bother fixing it?

 

They need a good system architect, preferably someone who understands the need for frameworks in large applications. Just that basic, sensible approach would have stopped the vast majority of bugs from ever happening. And don't even get me started on the sh*tty connection.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I will never be a day-1 customer of any Rockstar game, unless the seriously get their act together over the next few titles. In fact, I doubt I'll ever buy another Rockstar game brand new. I'd rather buy it 2nd hand so they don't get a penny of my money.

That logic doesn't flow, though... because they made a sh*t load of money with San Andreas, and made the next game very different, then made a sh*t load of money with GTA IV, and made the next game very different...

 

There will be microtransactions. Yes. But to expect GTA to end up as a Madden or Call of Duty type of game, where you're pretty much playing the identical game every year aside from different items and maps, well, I REALLY don't think we have anything to worry about.

 

I also wouldn't worry about Rockstar's inner turmoil - GTA is too big to fail. It makes way too much money for the series to just fall apart. SOMEONE will step in and resume business as usual, or they will hire the best of the best, or whatever. Whatever it takes, there will be a GTA 6, and it will be a significant upgrade in many ways, because that's what Rockstar does with the GTA series. (Except Vice City, there wasn't a major significant change made there, but it came out a year after GTA III.)

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Again, where have I said people can't express their opinions? I don't have a say in what anyone on the internet does so you can f*ck off with all that. For someone that loves to talk sh*t about Rockstar because they haven't added your favorite virtual air vehicle, it's funny that you call my posts "hateful and slanderous".

 

 

 

None of you HONESTLY know whats going on With The Housers, Leslie or Rockstar, and that's the truth, yet most of you are acting like you're auditioning to become the next Judge Judy.

 

You verbally attack anyone who does, unless it happens to be some Rockstar apologist BS; for example:

 

Days Are Gone, on 13 Apr 2016 - 6:36 PM, said:snapback.png

So many children, know-it-alls and crybabies ITT....

 

"Hurr durr no moar gud updatez onli Benny's cos Leslie iz gon waa"

"Me no like Rockstar now (Cockstar for the immature kids) coz Leslie not dere waaa"

"GTA6 will suck waa"

"Rockstar are greedy nd onli wont muny waaaa"

 

People are entitled to hold the opinion that the next GTA might not be as good (seeing as the brain behind the games is gone).

 

People are also entitled to view them as a greedy company.

 

For your information, I hold much against them. Not only the lack of helicopters, but the lack of dedicated servers, lack of stability, clothes for female characters, the introduction of the homing launcher, the negligence of contact missions and PvE activities, etc.

 

So you can just f**k off with all that.

Lack of high performance helicopters that can avoid the homing launcher as easy as a jet can. Rotate the camera so you can see the missile and maneuver away from it. This is only effective with the Valkyrie and the Buzzard as the Savage is a sitting duck. Edited by Retroview1955
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I'll just sum this up as best as I can for the Online crowd that doesn't understand what the f*ck is going on and will probably continue chugging on that corporate schlong.

 

The Benz was the brains behind Online, the Houser cokeheads did not want anything to do with Online.

 

You take the man who lead the development of GTAO away, the next GTA will have an arguably worse multiplayer experience.

 

It's a fact. The Benz brought us Heists. Look at what Sarwar (the current lead developer) brought us, Adversary Modes. It all went downhill from there with the GENIUS idea of dripfeeding vehicles already included in the game files.

 

What the f*ck, it's all there in black and white.

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One person in software engineering doesn't make all the decisions. It's a group effort. They have tons of ideas as they have said while The Benz was absent. They have seen what makes their audience buy into the product. They know we what want and I'm positive they scour the Internet to see what we like and what we hate. It would be stupid as hell if they discarded all the data and feedback given by the GTA community. I have been following this too and unless I have missed something, you all are making a monster out of Take-Two Interactive without any supporting evidence of deception. All you have to go on is what the media sites say and we all know how the media does stories: they focus on the negative aspect of the story. Relax people and grab an eCola and a Meteorite pie. Let's just wait it out and see what happens...

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LOL You're telling me? Nobody on this forums whines as much as you.

You've got a problem with people voicing their opinions? Tough sh*t. Suck it up.

 

When or where have I exhibited such thoughts? Please show me.

 

There's a difference between voicing an opinion, and mindless slander and voicing hate and "opinions" on things most of you know nothing about.

 

you arent seeing the big picture. The Benz leaving might not be that critical NOW, but in the near future, somebody is going the see the damage that they caused, which will be rockstar, and then, ultimately, the fans.

 

i know i f*cked up some comma's in that post.

 

 

@MR.FiddlesHimself Manhunt didnt do poor review wise, and bully is undisputedly a classic game.

and you only bothered to take scores from metacritic, instead of various reviews from other sites.

 

No, I don't doubt that. If that e-mail is anything to go by, and Leslie is as great as everyone is making him out to be, then yeah, that's gonna hurt Rockstar in some point in the future.

I wouldn't say it if i didnt 100% believe it was true. I dont like arguing just to argue.

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I would be interested in knowing what percentage of game copies sold (225 million) bought Sharkcards?

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You really think 225m people bought GTA V?

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